"Jonathan Lewis3", those stats from back in the day are spot on, and while the momentum is definitely trending upward, there’s really no need to nitpick every little detail. Secondly, I totally get what you're hinting at—I see where you're going with that—but I find it pretty hilarious that the very same people pushing for these specific decisions are the first ones to break them themselves, mostly because they can't stop tripping over their own egos.
"cosmicridge6", without trying to diminish anyone's hard work or the sheer effort put into the stands and the group itself, all I need to see is that "Liberty" signature to connect the dots, which brings me right back to the issue of credibility.
If anything here is unclear or if you have some burning questions, feel free to hit me up in a DM or we can just grab a beer and talk it out in person.
The sheer level of exaggeration here is absolutely mind-blowing!😂 It’s just one extreme after another! 🙂
It’s a far cry from saying that Turkey has somehow turned into some sort of commercialized, modern version of fan culture—which, unfortunately, happens whenever things get forced until they lose their soul. But this? This lecture on morality and "mentality" on this forum, coupled with the sheer arrogance of people thinking they have the right to hand out psychological diagnoses to fans in the stands?! Based on what kind of fan credibility???????? A few seasons spent sitting in the bleachers??? ☕ I don't know these guys in Turkey, nor do I feel any need to defend anyone's naive actions (if you even want to call them that), but I felt compelled to point out that you are overstepping and spewing a load of useless nonsense by attacking others without once reflecting on your own behavior or your own standing. Maybe cool off a bit and try channeling that energy into something actually constructive that might improve the group's quality...
It’s high time that, alongside all the hype surrounding gym culture and the rise of MMA, we actually take a hard look at what’s happening within the Polish soccer scene...
Slask Wroclaw vs. Ruch Chorzów (02.18.2012) Once again, the Ruch Chorzów fans were barred from traveling to the away game. In an incredible move, the Slask Wroclaw supporters actually bought up the tickets for them just to fill their own section! I mean, just remember—these two sets of fans absolutely loathe each other. Talk about a gutsy move!
Larry Campbell33 said:It’s not about whether some banner fell down or whatever,it’s the fact that he didn't even notice this Florida banner in the first place.Honestly, you're better off just grabbing it and tucking it away somewhere, because setting fire to a stupid banner like that? I mean, seriously, what were they thinking?
And what exactly is that supposed to be a measure of???
Alex Campbell54 said:They’re doing such a disservice to themselves; they had the potential to be a legitimate, high-quality civic alternative, but instead, they ended up like this...
At this rate, the only thing about them that serves as a real civic alternative is their fan base...☕>
James Barrett73 said:What does any of this have to do with NFL fans? Besides, what’s so shocking about it? He’s always tearing things up to those aggressive, old-school anthems at various local clubs... he's nothing but a stinking grasshopper.
lonebadger6 said:5. You’re doing the same thing, Ryan Ramos98, latching onto one insane comment and using it to trash the entire group. We aren't out here greeting visitors by throwing rocks at them or pulling knives on them, so what else could be missing? My lack of desire to crack the skull of some guy from San Francisco, Zadar, or Vinkovci who just showed up on sacred Karlovac soil might stem from plenty of other reasons, and it certainly isn't because I lack guts.
I never intended to call you all out as a group or spit on your reputation. You have your own stance and your own style, and as long as you aren't attacking anyone, I have no issue with that. It’s your decision, your business, and nobody has the right to lecture you or throw accusations at you regarding how you choose to exist. But when someone using a handle tied to your group starts picking fights with another group—one that is significantly more powerful—over a custom or practice that doesn't even exist in your circle, well, then you can expect this kind of reaction, and that’s that.
P.S. There is no point in dragging this out any further in the Navy thread. Cheers!
Peter Roberts58 said:It honestly makes me sick reading posts from members of that fleet. Last year, I saw a group of—I’d estimate—maybe 60 or 70 people walking past the local pub. There were exactly 12 of us standing right out front. And what did they do? A few verbal insults and some lighters tossed on the ground. Is that supposed to be bravery? It’s not that I think avoiding a fight is cowardly, but why bother acting tough as a massive group when you have absolutely nothing to show for it? What am I supposed to write about, Gademz? That you guys "owned" this group or that one? We didn't lay a finger on anyone.
And what exactly was your grand plan there? Did you expect them to jump you? You're just one guy, for God's sake. If 60 or 70 people roll into YOUR city, what do you think is going to happen if they decide to target 12 Gademze supporters? A group that has NEVER been involved in a single fan brawl? They'd end up with at least 30-day bans slapped on them instantly. And for what? So you can hop on an American message board and brag about how they pushed the Gademze around in their own territory? Honestly, you should be happy you walked away unscathed; if you actually want to test yourselves, try gathering a crowd and picking a fight in your own hometown next time, and we'll see how that turns out... P.S. Given your affiliation with the group and the reputation you've built, you're really only qualified to comment on the White angels or similar outfits...
Please don't bother replying to me, because your previous posts have already made your stance crystal clear.
Personally, I’ve felt for years that the Subway Series held at Santa Monica is easily the best atmosphere in the game. Don't get me wrong, the rivalry with the Los Angeles Lakers and the Dallas Cowboys is intense, but when you look at the actual vibe and the energy from the stands, Cleveland takes the top spot without any debate. That’s just how I see it. And look, don't take this the wrong way, but sometimes I find the Cleveland Browns-Pittsburgh Steelers or the Cincinnati Reds-St. Louis Cardinals matchups more compelling than a Real Madrid-Barcelona clash, specifically when you're talking about the fan culture and the passion involved.
P.S. And yeah, I really wish Red Sox Nation would show up at the Rose Bowl in Miami sometime—maybe once in a while outside of the Super Bowl—with a crowd of 400 or 500 people, making a bigger impact on the Subway Series in Miami just like they always do back home.
I have to hand it to the creator, the visionary behind this whole thing, and honestly everyone else who lent their support to such a massive work of art!👍
Anthony Thomas12 said:wasn't that basically your 17th birthday--
So, your 17th birthday happens to fall right on the day of the Hajduk - Rijeka match, and you still have the nerve to post "When I grow up, I'll be a Wildcat! Armada (17)"?😉>