Anthony Perez9 said:Let them huddle up in their little holes or on some obscure fringe sites to spout their racism, conspiracy nonsense, and Putin supporter garbage. They can convince themselves they're right all they want; I don't see any benefit in letting their hate speech and filth bleed into the mainstream. Once they actually start acting on it, then we deal with them.
And just who are you? Are you the owner of this forum, deciding who gets to congregate here? You aren't. So, on what basis are you playing police officer? Oh, I see—you've invented labels and slapped them onto anyone who disagrees with you. And what determines those labels? Your imagination. You see, I could easily imagine a hundred different criteria and slap a hundred labels on you, then play cop. Anyone can do that. In a civilized society, we do things differently. When it comes to speech, we prohibit libel. That occurs when someone lies, like saying, "Anthony Perez9 stole my wallet," assuming you have a real identity instead of a handle. Libel is about causing actual harm to another person.
However, if someone says, "I adore Putin and love seeing him drop bombs on Ukrainians," they haven't actually harmed anyone. They have only disgraced themselves. And they have the right to do so. That falls squarely under freedom of speech.
But the issue here isn't even people saying things similar to that. The issue is people asking why Putin does what he does. They compare his motives to the reasons used by the West—specifically the USA—or the justifications other nations have used for various military interventions. Furthermore, the West didn't just ignore sanctions; they turned a blind eye entirely. This leads us to discussions regarding hypocrisy and double standards. It leads to questions about whether the West might have actually fueled the war. Or it brings up the damage Western politicians cause to their own citizens through irresponsible and reckless handling of the entire situation. But nobody cares about any of that. It is more important to pose with a Ukrainian flag, make noise, throw out labels, and categorize dissenters based on subjective whims. Then, you get to play policeman and act as the ultimate moral authority. It's like Kadija suing you while Kadija also sits in judgment of you.
Larry Walker24 said:you haven't read the forum rules
Even Nice would tell you the same thing if you need confirmation.
I've been waiting since April for an actual interpretation of those rules. It’s one thing to hide behind them, but providing a coherent explanation is a completely different story.
Larry Walker24 said:plus if he holds any stake in cryptocurrency, which I suspect he does, then that would also be a violation of the site rules.
By that logic, my complaint is also a rule violation because I’m complaining about cryptocurrency. So, if I received a payout in crypt and now mentioning the word "crypt" on Reddit constitutes breaking the rules, we have a problem. This kind of speech control you're trying to impose wouldn't even make Stalin blush. Just out of curiosity: did you perhaps buy some fake Bitcoin? Did you fall for a scam?
Donna Doyle2 said:Aha, okay. So what kind of response or reaction would you actually want? If someone wrote to you, "You're right, but we're going to keep doing things our way regardless," would that satisfy you? Or are you just posting your opinions without any specific goal in mind? Honestly, I think most people realize that what you're saying is true, especially those who actually invest; the only real debate left is comparing it to fiat currency (like how much more secure cash is compared to crypto, etc.).
Regarding the forum, it would be fair, but sometimes I feel like they allow certain topics just so they can mock and ridicule anyone with a different opinion. However, it often happens that those dissenters turn out to be smarter and more coherent than the people agreeing with the status quo, and then they get shut down for it. Some moderators punish dissenters in such a naive and transparent way that I'm not even sure if they understand what they're doing.
They deleted your link/post instantly, which seems suspicious to me. 🙂
No, I would simply want them to respond to my appeal. I suppose I am asking for too much.
As for everything else: It isn't about whether people know what I'm writing is true. It's about the fact that they repeatedly spread misinformation—outright lies—on this forum. They know what they are writing isn't true, yet they persistently repeat these falsehoods. Then you explain it to them in a different way, and they go quiet for a moment. But after some time, the same story starts all over again. And in the end, I'm the one who ends up being blamed because I insist on the truth. The motives of those spreading disinformation and lies are clear to me—they've already profited from the scheme, there's no profit left for them personally, so they are forced to promote the scheme as some sort of revolution to attract new investors to bring in more capital. But I cannot grasp the motives of the moderators and administrators. My god, I can't even have an open, critical discussion on Reddit about something that is an obvious investment scam. I am not allowed to criticize the scheme run by an anonymous individual or group hiding behind the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. It is a phenomenon I cannot understand. Especially since they pretend to follow the mainstream everywhere else, where, for example, the Wall Street Journal publishes this:
Why bitcoin is worse than a Madoff-style Ponzi scheme
But go ahead, try mentioning what the Wall Street Journal published on Reddit, and the moderator will suspend you immediately.
Casey Bennett said:Sharing your opinion is fine. Doing it a few times is fine. But destroying discussions by constantly forcing that opinion on others carries consequences.
And linking to your own blog post as a "clarification" for the nonsense you keep barking about is next-level rudeness. Then playing the victim, while linking to the same stupidity again and questioning why posts were deleted. It's like everyone has conspired against you, the poor fighter for truth. LOLz
You are exhausting. You've become a massive headache for people who don't even follow cryptocurrency. Just move on. Go write on your blog. 🙂
This isn't my blog. It’s just a single-article landing page, much like how Satoshi Nakamoto published his article regarding Bitcoin.
As for your comments—calling me "exhausting" or saying I've "lost my mind"—those are just emotional outbursts on your part. They have nothing to do with the topic at hand, my grievance, or the reality of the situation. If we're talking about expressing emotions, then let me be clear: crypto enthusiasts on this PDF platform are incredibly exhausting. Their constant propagation of falsehoods is becoming unbearable. There, I've expressed my emotions too.
And another thing... you mentioned "imposing opinions." 🤣 What opinions? These are facts, not opinions. I am stating facts, nothing more. Once you enter a scheme based on capital inflow, you can't recoup anything unless new investors provide fresh liquidity. That is a fact. It is an investment scam. Calling it "imposing" is merely a subjective impression. When someone persistently ignores the facts, they naturally perceive them as being imposed upon them.
Donna Doyle2 said:You’ve been laser-focused on this specific topic and exposing scams, but I think you’re missing the bigger picture: regular people don't actually care about any of that. People play the lottery and blow money on things where they know there is virtually zero chance of seeing a return. All they care about is whether there is even a slim chance that what they put in comes back as a larger amount; that’s all the information they need. If you told them to invest money in soap bubbles with the hope of selling them for more before they pop, they’d do it. So, I’m not sure why you think your writing will deter people from investing in cryptocurrency. Do you honestly believe they’ll walk away because of moral concerns or the risk of losing money? Because in my view, neither of those factors will stop them.
As for the forum, it surprises me that every few months some shocked citizen pops up asking why the moderation is so biased. A forum follows the ideology of its leadership, and naturally, they have no interest in allowing certain posts, threads, or even entire subforums—like religion or alternative views—to exist in any meaningful way.
My focus is on disinformation. It is not on the irrational behavior of people when it comes to spending their money. The latter doesn't concern me in the slightest.
And regarding that last point. For heaven's sake, if they want to show their ideological bias, they should just be upfront about it on the official forums and call it a day. Instead, they pretend to be neutral and cite principles when it suits them, but the moment it doesn't, they start swinging the stick.*
*For instance, I post a link to show the administration how things really are, and they immediately come down on me with the stick. Apparently, it somehow violates the rules of this PDF. I don't know how, but fine, no problem. However, I am raising this issue specifically for that purpose, and I haven't received a single response from anyone in months. That is the actual problem. These are double standards driven by an ideology or whatever else.
swiftmaker12 said:I didn't bother jumping into the discussion until the moderator finally opened a skeptical thread about cryptocurrency. The followers defending crypto dogma were arrogant, rude, condescending, and petty—basically displaying every negative trait imaginable. These crypto zealots would swarm the thread just to lash out at anyone brave enough to disagree. Even after the moderator gave opposing views a fair chance, those little fanatics kept crawling back into the skeptic thread to act the exact same way. Everyone has their own little delusions. They seem obsessed with lecturing everyone from a high horse about how smart and modern they are, or how much wealth they’ve accumulated. It’s like they can’t help themselves; they have to keep invading the skeptic threads just to tell us "flat-earthers" how ignorant, uneducated, and backwards we are. Nowadays, the entire world is polarized on almost every topic, making actual dialogue or consensus impossible. It’s the same thing you see on Reddit regarding any subject. Honestly, I don't get it—if I don't believe in God, why would I show up in a thread full of religious users just to provoke them, only to have the moderator ban them on their own turf as a final insult? It's because they called me uneducated, stupid, a hillbilly, and outdated. My opinions and my lack of faith are strictly personal choices. The same applies to those worthless cryptocurrencies.
That is exactly right; the world is divided. But more specifically, it is divided between truth and lies. That is the core issue. Behind every lie, there is always an underlying interest, usually material, which is pushed through various manipulations. Naturally, those siding with the lies and the manipulation lose their minds when the truth is spoken aloud. Or, if they hold a position of power, they resort to censorship. Deep down, they know what the truth is. Insulting others is simply one way they vent that frustration, much like an ad hominem attack. Whenever I’ve started a skeptical thread, by the way, they all end up getting locked. Most of the responses from the community have been nothing but personal attacks. It was blatant off-topic spamming and trolling—an obvious violation of the rules. It doesn't bother me that this group breaks the rules; what bothers me is that those responsible for enforcing the rules turn a blind eye to clear violations while simultaneously punishing those who actually follow them. Of course, they do all this because they are standing on the side of falsehoods.
brightviper29 said:It stands to reason that people hanging out on a cryptocurrency subreddit aren't going to appreciate anyone challenging their specific worldview.
It’s just like walking into a subreddit dedicated to junk food or being overweight. It would be pointless to try and lecture those people about how poor diet affects health, shortens lifespans, or why certain habits are tasteless. Or imagine going to a smoking enthusiast group to preach about the dangers of cigarettes. Just let people live in their own little bubbles.
At the end of the day, Bitcoin isn't designed for the average person or the "little guy." It's built for individuals for whom losing a few thousand dollars—or even a few hundred thousand—isn't a life-altering catastrophe. Relax and enjoy the ride! 😁, everything will work out 🙂
Exactly. You go to a weight loss scam subreddit to point out that the product is a fraud, and the moderator hands you a ban. 🤣 That's pretty much how it works. It's all in the spirit of the forum. 😁
That isn't really the point. The issue is that misinformation is being spread publicly or specifically here on this Reddit thread. People are then being lured into "investing" or buying what they think is "currency," "assets," or "coins." In reality, there is no actual investment, money, assets, or coins involved. Instead, cryptocurrency systems simply store and transfer data regarding how many shares an individual holds in empty—that is, Ponzi or fraudulent—schemes. Someone invents a scheme, divides it into X million shares, and then sends data to people's digital addresses or e-wallets: you have 5 shares, you have 0.001 shares, you have 2 shares, you transfer 3 shares, you have 150, you have 0.0001, and so on. Shares in what? They are shares in nothing, because the scheme is completely devoid of any economic resources. These aren't shares of capital, debt, land, products, receivables, or any other economic resource. They are shares in entirely hollow schemes that just carry fancy names like Dogecoin, Litecoin, Ripple, or Bitcoin... and they do nothing else except maintain and transfer records of those shares. Essentially, they are standard Ponzi schemes or investment scams where the shares are falsely advertised to the public as units of currency or property.
This is the exact problem I was discussing over in the Cryptocurrency thread. This other stuff is a different matter entirely.
Let me offer an analogy to help you better understand how Bitcoin or crypto scams actually operate.
Imagine someone founds a company called ABC and issues 21 million shares—essentially stakes or units in that firm. They then organize an IPO to offer those shares to the public. But there is a catch. The company consists of nothing but the name "ABC." It has no capital. It produces nothing. It sells nothing. It provides zero services. Absolutely nothing. However, the founder claims that instead of keeping the record of share ownership locally—on paper certificates or brokerage accounts—it will be stored globally via an online distributed database, specifically on the famous blockchain. Would you buy shares in this company? Of course not; nobody would touch it. The company is worthless. It possesses no economic resources and has no way to generate them. Therefore, it makes no difference whether the records are kept locally or globally.
That is precisely what cryptocurrencies are. Cryptocurrencies are like companies that possess only a name and nothing else. They are schemes with fancy names that lack any underlying economic resources, divided into "shares," stakes, or units. The entire point of these schemes is to store the record of who owns how many units globally within a blockchain. In essence, these are digital-age investment scams that maintain a ledger of entries and exits online. In the past, stakes in such scams were falsely marketed as lucrative businesses; today, they are falsely branded as "revolutionary future money" or "digital coins." The principle remains identical: people are lured by lies into committing actual economic resources to a scheme. Once they are in, they must wait for new investors to enter and bring in fresh economic resources. If no new investors arrive, the scheme collapses, and people are left with nothing.
Why is there no response from the administration? Are you choosing to ignore that what is being promoted on this forum is an investment scam? Let me explain this in the simplest possible terms.
Essentially, an anonymous individual known as Satoshi Nakamoto wrote a paper, the so-called Whitepaper. This document has become the Bible of the cryptocurrency community. In it, he claimed to have invented a system that generates money—Bitcoin—and facilitates online payments using that money. That claim was repeated until it became the central pillar of the crypto narrative we hear everywhere today. However, the core issue is that his claim is false. This is the essence of the Bitcoin scam. His system does not actually create money. Instead, it simply records how many units or shares an individual holds within his scheme. Satoshi divided the scheme into 21 million units via a protocol. These records of units are merely attached to addresses and stored in a distributed database called a blockchain. But these are not units of economic resources. They aren't units of a product providing intrinsic value to people. They aren't units of debt used to settle obligations, as seen with fiat currency. They aren't units of capital, such as equity in a company used to produce goods or services. They are literally units of nothing. The scheme is entirely devoid of any actual economic resources that people can utilize. This represents a fundamental problem for those holding units of Satoshi Nakamoto's scheme. Because they have invested real economic resources into the scheme, yet the scheme contains no economic resources to access, they desperately require what every investment scam needs: new investors. Someone has to enter the scheme and bring in real economic resources. That is the only way current holders can save themselves. That is the only way they can realize any profit. This is why there is such a desperate need to present Bitcoin—a unit of this empty system—exclusively in a positive light. There is a constant need to repeat the lie that it is money. Not just money, but revolutionary new money. Money that will save the little guy. Money that will solve economic problems and pull developing nations out of corruption and poverty. And so on. But of course, there is no money. Money is a type of economic resource, not a unit or a share in an empty scheme. Therefore, the lies, the praise, and the almost religious worship of Bitcoin stem solely from the necessity of attracting new investors. New investors must bring in real money—actual economic resources—so that existing members of the scheme can offload their fake money, which are merely units of an empty scheme.
Consequently, these units, these Bitcoins, must be portrayed exclusively in a positive light. When I come onto this forum and present Bitcoin in its true light, it is deemed unacceptable. It is treated as sacrilege. It is viewed as an attack on a divine figure. On that Bitcointalk forum of Satoshi Nakamoto's, there is a new thread running along these lines: "Bitcoin allowed you to buy it cheaply... 🤣 In short, Bitcoin is being given human qualities. It is treated as a vital, special, and precious entity that should only be praised. All of this exists because of the need to lure new investors into the scheme. This is why I have been exiled from the PDF Cryptocurrency site. The moderators and their associates there are members of Satoshi Nakamoto's scheme, and it is vital to them that these worthless units are spoken of only positively. But the public on these forums deserves to know the truth. The truth is that this is all one massive investment scam being falsely presented to the public as money and a payment network. So, please, release me and allow me to write there. Thank you for your attention.
The gridlock is still going strong. I went ahead and started a new thread over on Quote:
The Bitcoin paradox: how investment scams are being rebranded as technological and economic breakthroughs.
Following the model of a thread I came across...Here....and the accompanying video: I am opening this thread to facilitate a discussion regarding the paradox mentioned in the title.
Traditional investment scams used to rely on selling illusions of lucrative businesses or revolutionary products, but those methods have become obsolete. Scammers have since evolved, crafting much more sophisticated schemes centered around the illusion of groundbreaking currencies or digital assets. The core principle remains unchanged: cast a hook with an irresistible lure, wait for people to bite, and then drain them of their cash. Nowadays, that bait is "cryptocurrency." At the heart of it all lies the most famous example—Bitcoin. Bitcoin is essentially a scam built upon a system designed to simulate the existence of digital wealth. The true paradox and the novelty in this era of fraud is how this has ascended to the level of significant economic and technological innovation. It is revered as a godsend and a salvation for humanity, while the mastermind behind it is often viewed as someone who discovered a cure for cancer.
We’re going to break down exactly how his scam operates. But first, let's take a look at where this whole scheme actually started.
When people trade assets, they rarely interact with the actual substance of that wealth. Instead, what they see are mere digital entries or ink on paper—records of quantity and names appearing on bank statements, invoices, shipping manifests, certificates, or cash. For instance, if you buy 100 shares of a company like Apple, all you actually see on your brokerage account is the number "100" next to a ticker symbol. With certain types of assets, most buyers don't even realize the underlying asset exists at all. The clearest example is Fiat. If you were to ask the average person what Fiat money is, they would simply describe what they can physically see: the numbers printed on a twenty-dollar bill or the balance showing in their Chase bank account. In reality, however, Fiat is an asset built entirely on debt. Those numbers are nothing more than a ledger recording the amount of that debt. Essentially, those who hold Fiat are owed goods, services, and labor. They have effectively converted those claims into the bills and deposits currently circulating through credit expansion. Consequently, borrowers are forced—often through collateral requirements—to pay back loans, thereby returning that value in the form of products, services, and work to the holders. This process is how debtors settle the aforementioned debt. Because the market doesn't clearly identify which specific vendors or workers are acting as debtors, the original holders of that currency or those deposits often remain unaware that their debt has been satisfied. They don't realize that once the debt is settled, their currency or deposits exit circulation to close out the credit. Because of this lack of transparency, the average person remains under the illusion that Fiat is just a collection of arbitrary numbers rather than what it truly is: a debt-based asset.
Consider this scenario: imagine a con artist. This individual possesses absolutely nothing, which is exactly why they are so desperate to seize someone else's wealth. They understand a fundamental psychological loophole: when people conduct transactions, they rarely see the actual assets being moved; they only see a specific number paired with a recognizable name. Because of this, the scammer devises a way to manufacture the illusion of wealth. They build a system designed solely to record numbers—digits that trick people into believing there is tangible value backing them up. But an illusion of wealth requires more than just math; it needs a brand. So, the fraudster starts by inventing two things: a name, "Bitcoin," and a supply, "21 million." The name creates the illusion of existence, while the number creates the illusion of scarcity. Next, the scammer builds a database. This system records units of his imaginary supply and assigns them to various virtual addresses. Since the system is entirely anonymous, no one can track how many of those addresses actually belong to the scammer himself. To make the lie stick, he publishes a "white paper" declaring that every entry in this database entitles the holder to receive Bitcoin in the specified amount—for instance, 6.5 BTC. Now, he has both ingredients necessary to fabricate wealth: a name and a quantity. To add a final layer of legitimacy, he integrates cryptographic security into the system. After all, any "asset" worth having needs protection. With the stage set, the trap is ready. All the scammer has to do now is wait for the naive to bite, trading their real assets for his illusions.
One might say the scam is obvious. No one should be falling for something like this. Of course, they would be wrong. What we have described above isn't just some fantasy; it is reality. It sounds unbelievable, but it is true. People have genuinely fallen for a system designed to create an illusion of wealth. They are trading their tangible assets for a con artist's imaginary ones. That con artist is, of course, an anonymous figure known as Satoshi Nakamoto. And there are plenty of naive people out there. Not only that, but some have actually traded real assets worth $70,000 for a single unit of his illusory wealth. Others marvel at his system, calling it a revolution. They proclaim it to be the new internet. Meanwhile, authors write books and articles about the whole thing. The most fervent believers even organize conferences and events to discuss the system and celebrate it as a gift from above—a salvation for humanity, a path to freedom. It is truly incredible that a simple online scam has been elevated to the level of a deity or a significant innovation.
Once other scammers saw how naive and gullible people could be, and how easy it was to access their money, they began designing their own systems to create illusions of wealth. The illusions created by these systems are known as "cryptocurrency." And they are popping up all over the world like mushrooms after a rainstorm.
Question for discussion: how on earth did a common online investment scam come to be treated as a major technological and economic innovation?
The topic has, naturally... vanished in the blink of an eye.
Can the administration explain what the catch is? Why is it forbidden to tell the truth about Cryptocurrency on this forum?
Benjamin Taylor90 said:You've started four separate threads in the Cryptocurrency section and produced two videos, all within a single year! And you have the nerve to ask who is obsessed? 😵
You aren't describing anything; you are just talking nonsense. ☕
That isn't obsession. It is simply a different way of describing The Universal Scam. Different people require different approaches when explaining the same reality. Obsession would be relentlessly pushing the narrative about Bitcoin and this supposedly famous digital asset, while ignoring the fact that once you enter the scheme, the system merely assigns a number to your address. That number is just a label for a quantity—a data point stating you received XX units of something. But there are no actual goods in this scheme, which means that data is nothing more than a fictional amount. The entire system is fundamentally a collection of these fictitious quantities managed by keys and crypto protocols. In short, it is a simple online scam. It is the sale of a non-existent product wrapped in a crypto package using fancy terminology to more easily bait new members. You entered the scheme and now, much like every financial scam in history, you believe you will get rich quickly. That is why you cannot stand the messengers of truth.
The issue isn't being critical; it is your persistent stupidity in claiming Bitcoin is just a number in Excel, along with similar arguments. You have been stuck on this for over six or seven years now. 🤦 🤦 🤦
Six or seven years of obsessing over Bitcoin, and you still know absolutely nothing about it. 🙏
Yes, you aren't a clone. It is common knowledge that people view Bitcoin merely as a figure in an Excel spreadsheet. Regarding that same Excel theory, every few months they produce a YouTube video and reopen the exact same topic. 😵
Are you going to try to transfer a hundred numbers to me? I pay with Fiat—$20,000 per number! In cash! 😁
These are some of that individual's clones. There are plenty more, but I don't feel like searching... This has been going on for years. Pay attention to the identical rhetoric and the obsession with Bitcoin. ☕
I am not sure who you are debating with or who is obsessed with something that doesn't exist. Actually, it is you all who are obsessed with Cryptocurrency.
I am simply describing a scam where people are sold something non-existent through fictitious quantities and records of fictitious transactions.
Well, there you have it. Bravo. You’re essentially showing the admins how to derail a discussion on Cryptocurrency and violate the community guidelines. A few troll memes here, some ad hominem attacks there—"you don't know anything." A bit of nonsense about clone accounts. Some infantile jabs like "send me your number." And yet, not a single word regarding the actual topic. Go ahead, show us more of your trolling. Give us more examples.
I noticed this same pattern over on Reddit, too. Whenever someone presents solid evidence that a project is actually The Universal Scam, trolls swoop in and fight tooth and nail to claim the whistleblower is just a clone. They relentlessly push the moderators to ban the person, doing everything in their power to scrub them from the platform. Fortunately, the mods there aren't falling for those tactics. The motivation behind trying to label someone a clone is quite fascinating. It's as if regular users are deathly afraid of violating rules against banned users, while these self-righteous types are busy breaking every other rule in the book. 🤣
Arthur Smith15 said:Your analogy completely misses the mark. If I pay for a phone and receive a phone, that isn't a scam; likewise, if I pay for Bitcoin and receive Bitcoin, there is no fraud involved. The fact that it appears "virtual" to you—like an "empty box"—simply suggests you're struggling to keep up with the 21st century (or even the late 20th). You seem convinced that your arguments hold weight, but I maintain they are nothing more than worthless nonsense. 😁 In short, stop being such a nuisance...
But how can you not see it? You paid for Bitcoin, yet you didn't actually receive Bitcoin. You received a number. Do you still honestly believe you haven't been cheated? If you look at a receipt from Walmart and see the number 1, the unit "kg," and the word "ham," but there is no actual ham on the conveyor belt, would you really be satisfied with someone telling you, "Sir, it's the 21st century, the ham is virtual"?
Well, here we go again. This is what the administrators consider a "discussion" over at Cryptocurrency. Someone starts a thread with a legitimate critique, and instead of an actual debate, you just get hit with provocations, taunts, and ad hominem attacks from the usual suspects. Their favorite troll move is throwing out those ridiculous clone conspiracy theories. It’s also classic to hear stuff like, "you're outdated," "time has passed you by," or "you're just jealous." They simply lack real arguments, so they try to sabotage the conversation in every way possible. And the ringleader? That would be the moderator. I had someone constantly trolling my thread with variations of the same nonsense question—asking if anyone was selling lilies or something equally absurd—and the moderator never even gave him a warning. There were direct insults thrown around too, and once again, silence from the moderator. Meanwhile, I ended up getting partially banned just for staying on topic.
mistyotter35 said:Why not? Both are essentially fiction, yet people obsess over them regardless. Whether you're telling the truth or not, the reality remains that people trade them and buy them.
A soap bar is a tangible product. Cryptocurrency is a fictional, non-existent product being marketed as something real. Of course people buy into it—it's just like when someone uses Craigslist to buy a phone only to receive an empty box. In these crypto schemes, instead of an empty box, they get a digital number. They are told this number represents actual wealth or assets, but it is simply an online scam. The moderator has banned any description of this fraud, and I am still waiting to hear if that is the official stance of this forum.
mistyotter35 said:Look, here is how I see it. Just like you wouldn't walk into a thread about soap bars and start claiming they are stupid or brainless—that thread is meant for discussing usage, brands, and whatnot; it exists in its own bubble. The same applies to a cryptocurrency thread. You aren't trying to convince them that these currencies are fictional; they already know that. They live in that world, discussing prices, sales, and so on.
Your analogy doesn't hold up. Soap bars aren't fictional. However, cryptocurrencies are, yet the crypto narrative operates under the assumption that they aren't. The point is that this entire narrative is essentially a massive system of disinformation designed to mislead people. What you referred to as a "price" is one such piece of disinformation. Real things have prices, not fictional ones. Selling fictional goods through fictional transactions is a criminal offense. Tomorrow, crypto will be classified as such because it fits the definition perfectly. I am simply saying it will take politicians longer to grasp certain realities.
Therefore, you cannot compare soap bars to cryptocurrencies.
