Reddit moderator bans any critical discussion about cryptocurrency

What the moderator actually did was clear the way for misinformation to spread unchecked, effectively misleading the entire community here. On top of that, they’ve allowed the promotion of fake transactions, which is essentially criminal behavior in any other context. While fabricating Bitcoin transactions might not be codified as a crime just yet—it seems our politicians are a bit slow on the uptake regarding these matters—what is happening within Satoshi's scheme is fundamentally fraudulent because people are being sold something that simply doesn't exist. It’s identical to the way someone might falsify an invoice. You record a quantity and an item name, even though no actual transaction ever took place. Similarly, Satoshi's system records that you own a certain amount of Bitcoin, when in reality, no such assets exist within the system. You aren't actually gaining possession of anything. We are looking at a global online scheme built on fictitious transactions, where cryptographic keys and protocols are used to manage imaginary quantities assigned to virtual addresses.

I was penalized by the moderator simply for describing this global scam. I was punished for pointing out how people are being deceived by presenting these fictional transactions as if they were real. I am calling on the administration to correct the moderator's arbitrary decision.

It’s ridiculous, isn't it? Look at the North America. On Reddit, which was founded by none other than Satoshi Nakamoto himself—the very hub for the most dedicated supporters of his vision—people are allowed to criticize and challenge the concept. You'll find threads titled "Bitcoin is a myth, not reality" sitting there without any issue, sparking open debate.

But on this particular forum, that kind of discourse is strictly forbidden. It all comes down to the fact that the moderators and their inner circle can't handle the truth. When I posted the exact same arguments here that were being discussed on Reddit, the group attacked me personally, acting as if I had insulted their families. The moderator didn't hand out a single warning to anyone else. Instead, I received a permanent ban from the subforum simply because I spoke the truth about the system. It isn't even that I care about debating here; there are far better places for actual discussion than a subforum hijacked by a few crypto enthusiasts and a moderator who shuts down every critical topic. I am only pointing this out on principle.

Look, I suppose this is how I see the situation. Just as you wouldn't walk into the Soap Bar thread and start claiming that soap bars are stupid or that they make people lose their minds—where instead, the discussion stays focused on the actual product, the actors, and whatnot, which is really its own little universe—I feel the same applies to the cryptocurrency threads. You aren't there to try and convince them that these currencies are somehow fictional; they are already well aware of that, as they live within that ecosystem, discussing price action, sales, and all that matters to them.

mistyotter35 said:Look, here is how I see it. Just like you wouldn't walk into a thread about soap bars and start claiming they are stupid or brainless—that thread is meant for discussing usage, brands, and whatnot; it exists in its own bubble. The same applies to a cryptocurrency thread. You aren't trying to convince them that these currencies are fictional; they already know that. They live in that world, discussing prices, sales, and so on.

Your analogy doesn't hold up. Soap bars aren't fictional. However, cryptocurrencies are, yet the crypto narrative operates under the assumption that they aren't. The point is that this entire narrative is essentially a massive system of disinformation designed to mislead people. What you referred to as a "price" is one such piece of disinformation. Real things have prices, not fictional ones. Selling fictional goods through fictional transactions is a criminal offense. Tomorrow, crypto will be classified as such because it fits the definition perfectly. I am simply saying it will take politicians longer to grasp certain realities.

Therefore, you cannot compare soap bars to cryptocurrencies.

And why shouldn't they? I suppose both options are essentially fiction, yet people still obsess over them. Whether or not someone was telling the truth, the simple reality remains that people trade them, buy them, and act as if they're real.

mistyotter35 said:Why not? Both are essentially fiction, yet people obsess over them regardless. Whether you're telling the truth or not, the reality remains that people trade them and buy them.

A soap bar is a tangible product. Cryptocurrency is a fictional, non-existent product being marketed as something real. Of course people buy into it—it's just like when someone uses Craigslist to buy a phone only to receive an empty box. In these crypto schemes, instead of an empty box, they get a digital number. They are told this number represents actual wealth or assets, but it is simply an online scam. The moderator has banned any description of this fraud, and I am still waiting to hear if that is the official stance of this forum.

This is your 100th clone account. Every single one before this ended up banned. On both forums, you’re just a walking joke—someone everyone loves to mock.

Why? Because you keep spamming and trolling with nothing but ignorance and misinformation for years now.

You can't hold a real conversation, yet all your clones spend their entire lives arguing exclusively about Cryptocurrency PDFs. 😵

🤦

Question for the admins: Why are permabanned users allowed to just keep cloning themselves forever? They aren't even trying to change their tone. 😵 🤦

Alex Edwards4 said:(...) Cryptocurrency is a fictional, non-existent product being presented to the public as if it were real. Of course people buy it, just like when someone buys a phone on Craigslist and ends up receiving nothing but an empty box. In these crypto schemes, instead of an empty box, you receive a number. They claim this number represents actual wealth or physical assets. It’s an online scam. The moderator banned anyone from describing this fraud, and I am still waiting to hear if that is the official stance of this forum.

Your analogy is completely off the mark. If I pay for a cell phone and actually receive a cell phone, that isn't a scam; likewise, if I pay for Bitcoin and actually receive Bitcoin, there is no fraud involved. The fact that what you perceive as "virtual" is, in your eyes, equivalent to an "empty box," simply suggests you haven't quite grasped how the 21st century—or even the late 20th—works. You seem convinced that your arguments hold some weight, yet I maintain that your entire premise is a worthless hoax. 😁 In short, stop being such a tedious nuisance...

Well, here we go again. This is what the administrators consider a "discussion" over at Cryptocurrency. Someone starts a thread with a legitimate critique, and instead of an actual debate, you just get hit with provocations, taunts, and ad hominem attacks from the usual suspects. Their favorite troll move is throwing out those ridiculous clone conspiracy theories. It’s also classic to hear stuff like, "you're outdated," "time has passed you by," or "you're just jealous." They simply lack real arguments, so they try to sabotage the conversation in every way possible. And the ringleader? That would be the moderator. I had someone constantly trolling my thread with variations of the same nonsense question—asking if anyone was selling lilies or something equally absurd—and the moderator never even gave him a warning. There were direct insults thrown around too, and once again, silence from the moderator. Meanwhile, I ended up getting partially banned just for staying on topic.

Arthur Smith15 said:Your analogy completely misses the mark. If I pay for a phone and receive a phone, that isn't a scam; likewise, if I pay for Bitcoin and receive Bitcoin, there is no fraud involved. The fact that it appears "virtual" to you—like an "empty box"—simply suggests you're struggling to keep up with the 21st century (or even the late 20th). You seem convinced that your arguments hold weight, but I maintain they are nothing more than worthless nonsense. 😁 In short, stop being such a nuisance...

But how can you not see it? You paid for Bitcoin, yet you didn't actually receive Bitcoin. You received a number. Do you still honestly believe you haven't been cheated? If you look at a receipt from Walmart and see the number 1, the unit "kg," and the word "ham," but there is no actual ham on the conveyor belt, would you really be satisfied with someone telling you, "Sir, it's the 21st century, the ham is virtual"?

Alex Edwards4 said:They start a thread with some specific critical angle, and instead of an actual debate, you just get provocations, baiting, and ad hominem attacks from the same crowd that cooked up the whole thing.

It’s not about being "critical." It’s about your relentless stupidity—thinking Bitcoin is just some number in Excel or whatever other nonsense you've been peddling for the last 6 or 7 years. 🤦 🤦 🤦

Six or seven years of obsessing over Bitcoin and you still don't know—exactly—nothing. 🙏

Their favorite troll tactic is throwing out those weird clone theories.

Yeah, you aren't a clone. It’s common knowledge that people view Bitcoin as nothing more than a digit in Excel. And regarding that same Excel theory, every few months they just drop a new YouTube video and reopen the EXACT same argument. 😵

But how can you not get it? You paid for Bitcoin, but you didn't actually receive any Bitcoin. You received a number. You still think you haven't been scammed? If you look at a receipt they hand you at Walmart and see the number 1, the unit "kg," and the word "ham," but there isn't a single piece of ham on the conveyor belt, are you really going to settle for: "But sir, it's the 21st century and the ham is virtual"?

So you want to throw 100 numbers at me? I’m paying with Fiat—$20,000 per number! In cash! 😁

@admin

Here are some of this person's clones. There are plenty more, but I can't be bothered to hunt them all down... This goes back years. Just pay attention to the identical rhetoric and the obsession with Bitcoin. ☕

Well, there you have it. Bravo. You’re essentially showing the admins how to derail a discussion on Cryptocurrency and violate the community guidelines. A few troll memes here, some ad hominem attacks there—"you don't know anything." A bit of nonsense about clone accounts. Some infantile jabs like "send me your number." And yet, not a single word regarding the actual topic. Go ahead, show us more of your trolling. Give us more examples.

I noticed this same pattern over on Reddit, too. Whenever someone presents solid evidence that a project is actually The Universal Scam, trolls swoop in and fight tooth and nail to claim the whistleblower is just a clone. They relentlessly push the moderators to ban the person, doing everything in their power to scrub them from the platform. Fortunately, the mods there aren't falling for those tactics. The motivation behind trying to label someone a clone is quite fascinating. It's as if regular users are deathly afraid of violating rules against banned users, while these self-righteous types are busy breaking every other rule in the book. 🤣

Benjamin Taylor90 said:

The issue isn't being critical; it is your persistent stupidity in claiming Bitcoin is just a number in Excel, along with similar arguments. You have been stuck on this for over six or seven years now. 🤦 🤦 🤦

Six or seven years of obsessing over Bitcoin, and you still know absolutely nothing about it. 🙏

Yes, you aren't a clone. It is common knowledge that people view Bitcoin merely as a figure in an Excel spreadsheet. Regarding that same Excel theory, every few months they produce a YouTube video and reopen the exact same topic. 😵

Are you going to try to transfer a hundred numbers to me? I pay with Fiat—$20,000 per number! In cash! 😁

@admin

These are some of that individual's clones. There are plenty more, but I don't feel like searching... This has been going on for years. Pay attention to the identical rhetoric and the obsession with Bitcoin. ☕

I am not sure who you are debating with or who is obsessed with something that doesn't exist. Actually, it is you all who are obsessed with Cryptocurrency.

I am simply describing a scam where people are sold something non-existent through fictitious quantities and records of fictitious transactions.

Alex Edwards4 said:I have no idea who you think you're debating here, or who's obsessed with things that don't exist. Honestly, you people are the ones obsessed with Cryptocurrency.

With this account alone, you've started four different threads in the Bitcoin subforum and pumped out two videos in just one year. And you're asking me who's obsessed? 😵

http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?t=1262795
http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?t=1255499
http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?t=1253157
http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?t=1251361

As a Bitcoin maximalist, my holdings in those are exactly zero. 🙏

Alex Edwards4 said:I am simply describing a scam where people sell nothingness through fake amounts and fabricated transaction records.

You aren't "describing" anything, man. You're just talking nonsense. ☕

Benjamin Taylor90 said:You've started four separate threads in the Cryptocurrency section and produced two videos, all within a single year! And you have the nerve to ask who is obsessed? 😵

http://www.example-us-forum.com/showthread.php?t=1262795
http://www.example-us-forum.com/showthread.php?t=1255499
http://www.example-us-forum.com/showthread.php?t=1253157
http://www.example-us-forum.com/showthread.php?t=1251361

As a Bitcoin maximalist, I hold exactly zero. 🙏

You aren't describing anything; you are just talking nonsense. ☕

That isn't obsession. It is simply a different way of describing The Universal Scam. Different people require different approaches when explaining the same reality. Obsession would be relentlessly pushing the narrative about Bitcoin and this supposedly famous digital asset, while ignoring the fact that once you enter the scheme, the system merely assigns a number to your address. That number is just a label for a quantity—a data point stating you received XX units of something. But there are no actual goods in this scheme, which means that data is nothing more than a fictional amount. The entire system is fundamentally a collection of these fictitious quantities managed by keys and crypto protocols. In short, it is a simple online scam. It is the sale of a non-existent product wrapped in a crypto package using fancy terminology to more easily bait new members. You entered the scheme and now, much like every financial scam in history, you believe you will get rich quickly. That is why you cannot stand the messengers of truth.

The gridlock is still going strong. I went ahead and started a new thread over on Quote:

The Bitcoin paradox: how investment scams are being rebranded as technological and economic breakthroughs.

Following the model of a thread I came across...Here....and the accompanying video:

I am opening this thread to facilitate a discussion regarding the paradox mentioned in the title.

Traditional investment scams used to rely on selling illusions of lucrative businesses or revolutionary products, but those methods have become obsolete. Scammers have since evolved, crafting much more sophisticated schemes centered around the illusion of groundbreaking currencies or digital assets. The core principle remains unchanged: cast a hook with an irresistible lure, wait for people to bite, and then drain them of their cash. Nowadays, that bait is "cryptocurrency." At the heart of it all lies the most famous example—Bitcoin. Bitcoin is essentially a scam built upon a system designed to simulate the existence of digital wealth. The true paradox and the novelty in this era of fraud is how this has ascended to the level of significant economic and technological innovation. It is revered as a godsend and a salvation for humanity, while the mastermind behind it is often viewed as someone who discovered a cure for cancer.

We’re going to break down exactly how his scam operates. But first, let's take a look at where this whole scheme actually started.

When people trade assets, they rarely interact with the actual substance of that wealth. Instead, what they see are mere digital entries or ink on paper—records of quantity and names appearing on bank statements, invoices, shipping manifests, certificates, or cash. For instance, if you buy 100 shares of a company like Apple, all you actually see on your brokerage account is the number "100" next to a ticker symbol. With certain types of assets, most buyers don't even realize the underlying asset exists at all. The clearest example is Fiat. If you were to ask the average person what Fiat money is, they would simply describe what they can physically see: the numbers printed on a twenty-dollar bill or the balance showing in their Chase bank account. In reality, however, Fiat is an asset built entirely on debt. Those numbers are nothing more than a ledger recording the amount of that debt. Essentially, those who hold Fiat are owed goods, services, and labor. They have effectively converted those claims into the bills and deposits currently circulating through credit expansion. Consequently, borrowers are forced—often through collateral requirements—to pay back loans, thereby returning that value in the form of products, services, and work to the holders. This process is how debtors settle the aforementioned debt. Because the market doesn't clearly identify which specific vendors or workers are acting as debtors, the original holders of that currency or those deposits often remain unaware that their debt has been satisfied. They don't realize that once the debt is settled, their currency or deposits exit circulation to close out the credit. Because of this lack of transparency, the average person remains under the illusion that Fiat is just a collection of arbitrary numbers rather than what it truly is: a debt-based asset.

Consider this scenario: imagine a con artist. This individual possesses absolutely nothing, which is exactly why they are so desperate to seize someone else's wealth. They understand a fundamental psychological loophole: when people conduct transactions, they rarely see the actual assets being moved; they only see a specific number paired with a recognizable name. Because of this, the scammer devises a way to manufacture the illusion of wealth. They build a system designed solely to record numbers—digits that trick people into believing there is tangible value backing them up. But an illusion of wealth requires more than just math; it needs a brand. So, the fraudster starts by inventing two things: a name, "Bitcoin," and a supply, "21 million." The name creates the illusion of existence, while the number creates the illusion of scarcity. Next, the scammer builds a database. This system records units of his imaginary supply and assigns them to various virtual addresses. Since the system is entirely anonymous, no one can track how many of those addresses actually belong to the scammer himself. To make the lie stick, he publishes a "white paper" declaring that every entry in this database entitles the holder to receive Bitcoin in the specified amount—for instance, 6.5 BTC. Now, he has both ingredients necessary to fabricate wealth: a name and a quantity. To add a final layer of legitimacy, he integrates cryptographic security into the system. After all, any "asset" worth having needs protection. With the stage set, the trap is ready. All the scammer has to do now is wait for the naive to bite, trading their real assets for his illusions.

One might say the scam is obvious. No one should be falling for something like this. Of course, they would be wrong. What we have described above isn't just some fantasy; it is reality. It sounds unbelievable, but it is true. People have genuinely fallen for a system designed to create an illusion of wealth. They are trading their tangible assets for a con artist's imaginary ones. That con artist is, of course, an anonymous figure known as Satoshi Nakamoto. And there are plenty of naive people out there. Not only that, but some have actually traded real assets worth $70,000 for a single unit of his illusory wealth. Others marvel at his system, calling it a revolution. They proclaim it to be the new internet. Meanwhile, authors write books and articles about the whole thing. The most fervent believers even organize conferences and events to discuss the system and celebrate it as a gift from above—a salvation for humanity, a path to freedom. It is truly incredible that a simple online scam has been elevated to the level of a deity or a significant innovation.

Once other scammers saw how naive and gullible people could be, and how easy it was to access their money, they began designing their own systems to create illusions of wealth. The illusions created by these systems are known as "cryptocurrency." And they are popping up all over the world like mushrooms after a rainstorm.

Question for discussion: how on earth did a common online investment scam come to be treated as a major technological and economic innovation?

The topic has, naturally... vanished in the blink of an eye.

Can the administration explain what the catch is? Why is it forbidden to tell the truth about Cryptocurrency on this forum?

Look, Bitcoin and cryptocurrency have failed the investment scam test:

The Universal Scam Test – applying it to Bitcoin

Will you finally let me warn people about these scams, or is one moderator's decision set in stone?

Alex Edwards4 said:Look, Bitcoin and crypto totally failed the investment scam test:

The Universal Scam Test – let’s Apply it to Bitcoin

Can you guys finally let me warn people about these scams, or is one moderator's decision just set in stone forever?

And why do you even care if people are buying coins or not? What's in it for you?

Larry Walker24 said:Why does it even matter if people are buying cryptocurrency or not? What's it to you—what kind of profit are you making off this?

And why should the government care about whether women have abortions or not?
What kind of benefit does the state actually get from that?

swiftmaker12 said:Why does the government even care if women get abortions or not?
What's in it for the state, really?

Who would be working? Some 90-year-old grandpa? Look at the ratio of workers to retirees—it's like 1.45 to 1.

How many people are even left in the US? Under 330 million?

Your example totally sucks.