Posts by hollowwolf7

shadowgardener12 said:Honestly, I am just incredibly relieved that I wasn't there.

...ahhh... well then... in that case, I am equally relieved that you weren't there either... 🙂 😬

shadowgardener12 said:Seattle '94 was a complete disaster👎 🙂

... honestly... I was right in the pit and it was absolute hell... I barely even remember the actual concert (who knows why 🙂 ) 😁 😉

..but looking back today, I'm actually glad I went... even if it was maddening.

rapidskipper9 said:Inaca, looking at this guy, don't you think a fishing rod could occasionally just be... a fishing rod? I personally enjoy the idea that it is.

It certainly could... but then where would the fun be in making a mess of things? 😁

swiftmaker20 said:😂

Is there anyone actually in this group who was listening to Nirvana while Cobain was still alive, or did you all just jump on the bandwagon later? Personally, I drifted away from Nirvana around '98, though I started digging into them back in the '92-'93 era... To be perfectly blunt, I didn't spend a single year mourning him. However, I certainly felt the loss when it came to Layne... 5. 4. 2002. 🙂

...was in Chicago back in '94... 🙂

Douglas Robinson12 said:To doesn't strike me as particularly upbeat to me; it sounds more like irony.

I honestly have no clue what Kevin Chavez3 meant by "super-positive"...😁 but when it comes to music meant for drunken jumping around,👍

...in my opinion... of course it's ironic. But the sound itself? It's pure, raw emotion.🙂

🙂

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

It’s true, honestly... there are just so many different layers to peel back!

and that's what Great art is all about

Kevin Chavez3 said:When I was pointing out the gap between "Nevermind" and "in Utero," my focus was entirely on their commercial viability. "Nevermind" is just one massive hit after another, whereas "in Utero" is pure grit and raw aggression...

😁 ...honestly, the stuff I've dug up regarding nirvana ...it's probably better if you don't know😉

But I actually agree with your point: that shift in how people perceive those two records stems from what I mentioned earlier. Sure, "in Utero" is darker, but if you take the time to really listen to the lyrics on "Nevermind," you'll realize those hits are masking a much deeper quality—something almost equally grim, just significantly easier to swallow... so, we're on the same page there.

Kevin Chavez3 said:Kurt Cobain, huh? 😉

To being said, I actually found that text to be quite accurate, even if it does suffer slightly from that "romanticized biography" style. Look, very few people would record an album like "in Utero" immediately following one like "Nevermind." Then again, who knows... I wouldn't go so far as to say "Teen Spirit" was created against Kurt's will, but it seems to me he grew disillusioned with fame incredibly fast. Still, the guy was listening to MDC back when he was just a teenager... 😁

and now I'm going to choke 😁

nirvana existed for four years prior to Nevermind, and during that window they released Bleach, which moved about 40,000 copies under the production of a small label like Sub Pop ... (damn, that's almost like reaching the level of a mainstream pop star like Taylor Swift 😁 )

In Nevermind, Kurt is singing about his teenage life (back when he wasn't famous... which is why everyone understands and connects with that album) and he's just starting his descent into heroin...
In In Utero, he is his own subject and inspiration (him as a celebrity, reflecting on success, the effects of drugs, and all that... which is why many don't feel that album as deeply because nobody else has ever been in that specific situation)

... but by then, he was already a legend (god, how desperate does that sound? It immediately makes me think of that idiot)... so he could afford to do that... because you can't start singing about yourself the moment you pick up a guitar 😁 ... first you have to do your homework... I mean... you can, but then you're just an idiot... 😂

Well, I'm a Kurdtov fan myself, and honestly, I find myself paying my respects on Winamp almost every single day...

...but yesterday, I stumbled upon this piece on a music blog:

Rock has never suffered from a lack of tortured, messed-up characters with a penchant for drugs and booze, but Kurt was one of the true titans. For the youth at the dawn of the 1990s, Cobain articulated that paradoxical era—that specific blend of rage and apathy—through both his songwriting and his very existence. He essentially embodied the spirit of the times.

However, despite his unique importance as a sort of mascot for his generation, this wasn't some calculated move. He succeeded precisely because he didn't try to. When he formed Nirvana, he had no intention of becoming the voice of a generation. By releasing the generational anthem “Smells Like Teen Spirit”, he became, quite against his will, a beacon for the youth, reopening society's unhealed wounds through brutally honest, agonizing lyrics born from a sense of hopelessness.

He openly rejected the corporate entertainment machine and stood against the racism, homophobia, and misogyny prevalent in the rock scene of the early 1990s. He shunned mainstream culture, yet without any desire for attention, acting almost lethargically—except within his songs. It was this very reluctance to engage with the public that transformed him into a status symbol for an entire generation.

The person who wrote this really ought to put in some actual effort and master the basics of Cobainism before they start churning out such nonsense... it's completely wrong and just plain stupid. Who has ever actually succeeded without wanting to succeed??? Everything he did was designed to grab attention, even if he made it look like he wasn't trying...