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- These are cheap but honestly high-quality headphones with a detachable mic, and they actually fold up (!). The sound quality is unreal for what you pay, and surprisingly, the folding mechanism feels sturdy enough to last:

- Real wood 2.0 speakers rated at 60W—they’re punchy and sound great for PC speakers. You get a tweeter plus a shared mid/bass driver, a headphone jack, and an AUX input for your MP3 player or whatever. Sound is super clean and loud with a "soft" bass:

They definitely bury any other 2.0 or 2.1 PC speakers in this price bracket.

- , these 2.1 speakers are cheaper, louder, and way better than the Logitech X210. You get a solid 8W per channel plus an oversized 12W wooden sub. They'll easily fill an average-sized room, and if you crank them, the bass is massive. Clean, clear audio with a "kick" to the bass; you could actually use these for house parties.

- There's also a 5.1 version based on the same design. The price for a 5.1 setup is almost a joke, and the sound is solid:
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cheaper...

In theory, the one with the faster Front Side Bus and higher core frequency should be the winner, unless you're running specific programs that rely heavily on cache size—then the other guy might actually pull ahead...

Honestly, I don't think anyone bothered to deal with the headache of benchmarking the difference between those two CPUs. It’s too much work just to find out it all depends on whatever app you're running and, obviously, the rest of the hardware you've got under the hood...
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😁 Come on, someone... 🤷 Is this really too much to ask?
Anything is possible... 😁 A hammer is easily one of the greatest tools ever invented...
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darkowl72 said:it's a small world... 😉he'll be happy once I'm done; I pulled 3.2GHz out of an OC attempt with pretty decent temps, so he could probably push it even higher...

Anyway, something's bugging me... I ran into this exact same thing with my Intel Core 2 Duo until I stumbled upon a specific combo that fixed it...

Everything works perfectly fine—reboots, cold boots, all good. But the second it goes into hibernation, it freezes up. The fans ramp up to full speed, super loud, and everything just hangs. Black screen. At that point, I have to flip the switch on the power supply because nothing else helps... Then when I reboot, it acts like it's "resuming Windows" but uses default settings instead. I can't tell if it's the motherboard or just some bad hibernation settings.


I hate quoting myself, but whatever...

So, the issue is waking up from hibernation...

Can someone explain to a dummy like me what the actual difference is between S1 and S3 suspend states? I mean, I think I get the concept, but this wake-up issue only happens when the BIOS is set to S3. If I switch it to S1, everything works flawlessly.
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Hey, how much do multiplier settings actually affect voltage? I mean, if I drop the multiplier, will it pull less current, or is that strictly tied to frequency? I’m asking because this CPU has a 12.5 multiplier (though I can probably only use 12 until I flash the 😉 BIOS), and back when I was running an E2200, I kept the FSB at 399 and it was rock solid. So the board clearly has some headroom... but once I hit 400, I either hit a hole or an 😉
that I just didn't realize was there
So, if I were to pair a lower multiplier with a higher FSB, would that require less voltage or not?
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Small world... 😉 He’ll be happy once I’m done with him. I pulled 3.2GHz out of that OC like it was nothing, all while keeping temps totally reasonable. Honestly, he could probably push even higher...

But look, I’ve got a headache here... I ran into this same issue back when I was messing with the e2200 until I stumbled onto a specific combo that fixed it...

Everything works fine—everything is perfect. Reboots, cold boots, all good. But the second it goes into hibernation, everything hangs. The fans just ramp up to full blast, super loud, and the whole system freezes. Black screen. At that point, I have to physically flip the switch on the power supply because nothing else works. When I finally reboot, it acts like it's "resuming Windows" but it just loads with default settings. Is this a motherboard issue or just some messed up hibernation settings?
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Small FFTs kept crashing on me, so I dialed back the voltage a bit. Running at 1.3875V in the BIOS, but dropping to 1.360 / 1.344V during idle and hitting 1.328V under full load (per CPU-z), it looks stable at 310x12= 3.72 GHz.

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First impressions with the new E5200...

P35-DS3, BIOS voltage set to 1.35V

First attempt, everything is rock steady.

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Second attempt—this one needs some fine-tuning. It works, but...

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Alright, so for this second setup, I bumped the BIOS voltage up to 1.3875V. At idle, CPU-z shows 1.360 / 1.344V, but once I run Orthos, it drops to 1.328V. That seems like a massive gap to me. Is that normal or am I tripping?

edit:

Yeah, temps aren't even breaking 60C (RealTemp). Using an AC Freezer Pro cooler, obviously.😉
If you’ve got a grand to spend, just grab this from the admin shop and you'll have a much better rig:

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And if you can stretch your budget by another $67, you might even be able to squeeze in a dual-core processor... 😉
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No clue, I just typed it into Google and this popped up: 😉
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Running an Athlon XP 2400 + on an MA69G-S3H with 4GB of Kingmax 800MHz RAM. It’s holding steady at 430x2... just bumped up the FSB.
It’s not exactly a massive steal now that the 4xxx series is out, but honestly, if you don't have more than $267 lying around for a GPU, you might want to swing by Micro Center tomorrow for a little Saturday shopping spree.😁

DEAL: GECUBE ATI RADEON HD 3870 VGA PCI-E, 512MB DDR3, DVI, HDTV

Cash/Debit price
$266
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So we're talking XTX, huh?

And this wallpaper is just what I use when my girlfriend isn't around... because then it’s all "moonlight and ocean waves" type stuff. 😉
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@ rustyrider40: looks nice... what are you using for cooling?

@ all you newbie overclockers: if you can't be bothered to put in the effort to read this thread from the very beginning, then just go hit up PC Expert for some "overclocking for dummies" guides... it’s like saying you want to learn how to write, but you're too lazy to even pick up a pencil... damn...
9. Software Support:

Windows XP, Windows Vista, or any Linux distro. It’s just like any other PC. From there, you can install Windows Media Center (obviously only on Windows—don't even bother trying on Linux) or one of the countless third-party apps out there. The main thing is you'll have to play around with them to see which interface you actually like and which one actually recognizes your TV tuner card.

Most TV cards come bundled with some software for watching or recording shows and movies; some are polished, others are total junk. I’ll only mention the ones I actually had a decent experience with: CyberLink’s PowerCinema (v4 is okay, but v5 is great), which usually comes with Gigabyte cards. It’s pretty good at recognizing most other tuner cards, has a nice UI similar to MCE, and does the job. Then there’s Leadtek WinFast PVR2 that comes with Leadtek gear; version 2 was a massive improvement over the previous PVR. PVR2 also plays nice with most cards, though the UI is a bit clunky. Its big plus is that it supports two cards and can be programmed to shut down the HTPC once the task is finished.

MediaPortal is freeware run by a group of enthusiasts. They've done a high-quality job and it's still being developed. I had the bad luck where it just wouldn't recognize my specific card, so I gave up on it. But if I had to name a program with real promise, it would be MediaPortal. Plus, they have solid support through their own website and forums.

ChrisTV is an interesting paid option. It’s very well-made, and its standout feature is that it supports up to four TV cards, which might interest some people. You can grab a trial from their site; I think it works for about 30 days with one card or something like that.

On the Linux side, I’ve only tried MythTV, and it works quite well. The beauty of Linux is that you can run it on a seriously ancient machine with 256 MB of RAM and a Pentium III; the hardware requirements are basically non-existent. You won't run into driver issues or tuner recognition problems either; it’s simple: either it works or it doesn't. No middle ground. If you've never used Linux, don't be intimidated. There are live distros with MythTV pre-installed so you can download it and test it out without touching your actual OS. It boots up, runs MythTV, and you're good to go. If you like it, install it; if not, just exit like any other program and you're done. Again, the hardware will either work with it or it won't. No drama.

I’m expecting others to jump in here with their own experiences...

10. Remotes:

Most TV cards come with some sort of more-or-less useful remote. Some are actually good, others are just mediocre. Generally, even if a remote claims to be Windows, Vista, or MCE compatible, you might still struggle to get it to behave. It’s a piece of hardware that frequently clashes with other things, whether it's hardware or software. Sometimes everything works perfectly, and sometimes... it just won't. Usually, the basic functions work on any remote, but the headache starts when you try to use it with different software. Honestly, a wireless keyboard and mouse solve all these problems and give you full functionality.

Of course, there are "real" remotes that work everywhere and can learn commands, but those cost a premium.

General rule: When buying hardware, if you're on the fence about any component, always go with the one that offers the longest warranty from the manufacturer or distributor.

So, that’s about it... Since I'm not one of those guys who thinks he knows everything and is always right, I'm inviting everyone to share their experiences with picking gear and building an HTPC in this thread. I welcome all input and suggestions, and I won't get pissed if you disagree with my take or correct me if I messed something up....

Anyway, here’s my current setup:

1. A Frontier Opera case with a built-in 400W PSU. I ripped out the four stock 80mm fans because they sounded like a jet engine, and swapped them for two Xilence RedWing 80mm fans modded to run at 7V—one in the PSU and one blowing over the CPU toward the back.

2. Gigabyte M68M-SM2 motherboard.

3. Athlon LE-1600, single core.

4. RAM: 2 x 1GB Kingmax 800.

5. NEC DVD drive.

6. 250GB Seagate HDD.

7. Club3D ZapTV 1100 TV tuner card with hardware MPEG decoding and a Cyberlink remote.

8. Gigabyte HD2400pro 256MB, passively cooled. I couldn't get my old TV to connect to this HTPC no matter what I tried, so I ended up having to buy a dedicated video card just to make it work.

9. OS: Windows Vista Business 32-bit.

10. CyberLink PowerCinema 5.
Alright, let’s put together an HTPC build:

1. The Case:

It's your call. Pick whatever you actually like. You can grab cheap ones from $100, which are usually just basic desktop towers—ugly as hell, but they get the job done. If you want something nicer, look for established brands with better builds, maybe even something with a built-in display and remote that runs anywhere from $500 up to several hundred bucks. It used to be a pain to find these specific cases here in the States, but availability has improved a lot lately.

Watch out for motherboard compatibility so you don't screw yourself over later. Some cases only take microATX, most take miniATX, and then you've got the larger ones that fit a full-size ATX board.

Also, check the height. Low-profile cases are usually designed for builds without dedicated graphics cards, using low-profile TV tuner cards or small CPU coolers. You won't be able to cram a massive GPU or a giant passive heatsink into one of those.

Ideally, your case should either come with exhaust fans already installed or at least have mounting points for them. Since HTPC cases are usually pretty cramped, it's easy to overload them with parts, so you need decent airflow. With fans, the rule is simple: bigger fans spinning slower make less noise. Of course, noise levels and airflow also depend on quality, and the golden rule applies here too—you get what you pay for. For those who are really picky about noise, you can always drop the voltage from 12V down to 7V or even 5V to quiet them down, especially if you're running a bunch of them.

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2. Power Supply:

I'll be honest: picking a power supply for an HTPC isn't nearly as complicated as it is for a standard desktop. That's because HTPC components aren't exactly power-hungry monsters. If the case comes with a PSU included, it'll probably suffice. However, since silence is the goal, look for units with larger fans and dynamic speed control based on load. Basically, if the system isn't pulling much juice, the PSU stays cool and the fan spins slowly enough to be silent. Higher-end (and more expensive) units definitely have the edge here because they actually include these features.
Power supplies labeled "silent" or "super silent" should actually be quieter. It’s common sense, really. But let's be real—that only holds true if you're buying from a brand you can actually trust.

Another crucial thing to watch out for is the physical size of the PSU. Even though they’re mostly standardized, you still need to double-check whether you can actually cram that power supply into your chosen HTPC case.

3. Motherboard:

Go for highly integrated boards that have everything packed in—VGA subsystems, sound cards, and a massive forest of connectors and ports. That’s the way to go. Honestly, any modern motherboard will easily handle the demands of an HTPC, so there's really no reason to overthink it. Most of them come in miniATX, which shouldn't be an issue, and they usually offer one to three expansion slots if you actually need them. Even if you end up with a board that only has two RAM slots, it's not a big deal. Any decent HTPC setup will run fine on just a single 1GB stick, and if you're feeling fancy and want more memory, just grab two 2GB sticks. You won't need anything more than that for as long as the machine is actually useful.

If you’re building a slightly more demanding HTPC and want a full ATX motherboard paired with a dedicated GPU, honestly, you can pretty much pick any board you want.

3. Graphics card

If your onboard graphics just can't cut it for your HTPC setup, you’re going to have to bite the bullet and buy a discrete graphics card. This usually happens when you start trying to decode high-def video and realize your built-in chip is struggling to keep up. Honestly, most modern GPUs—whether you're looking at AMD or Nvidia—can handle the decoding without breaking a sweat. But if you ask me, AMD has a slight edge here. Their image and audio processing tends to be a bit more polished, and since they push high-quality audio straight through the HDMI port, you don't have to deal with the headache of running extra audio cables.

4. Processor:

This is an easy category. Like I said before, pretty much any modern processor is going to breeze through HTPC requirements without breaking a sweat. If your setup is just sitting on a small home office network and you’re only using it to browse the web, you could probably get away with a cheap dual-core chip since they're dirt cheap these days—especially if you've got antivirus software running in the background. Also, a dual-core setup works fine if you're using one of those budget TV tuner cards that relies on software decoding rather than having its own dedicated hardware decoder. This is especially true if you're running a card with two tuners, or even multiple cards, so you can record several shows at once.

5. Memory:

Honestly, any RAM clocked at 667 or 800 MHz is plenty for a build like this. I’ve already mentioned that this HTPC will run just fine on 1GB, but let's be real—RAM is dirt cheap these days. If you want the sweet spot, just grab two 1GB sticks. That way you get dual-channel support, which almost every motherboard supports now, and you'll get a little speed boost. It's not massive, but why wouldn't you?

6. DVD player:

People love to argue about DVD drives—which one is reliable, which one is junk, which one is quiet, which one’s a loud mess. Honestly? It’s mostly just luck based on whatever specific model you happen to grab. There aren't really any golden rules here. Most of them have basically the same specs and they all cost roughly the same, so I don't have much useful advice to give. Just make sure it's dual-layer and uses a SATA interface, and you're fine. If you want to get fancy, combo DVD/Blu-ray readers have hit the market lately. They're significantly cheaper than dedicated Blu-ray burners, so that might be a smart move for future-proofing. Of course, that’s assuming you actually have the extra cash lying around, because they aren't exactly cheap.

7.) Hard drive:

Any 3.5" drive will get the job done, whether it's 160GB or 500GB. But honestly, don't obsess over speed here—focus on heat. It really depends on the specific series you pick, but from my experience, older Hitachi drives tend to run hotter. If you're stuffing this into a cramped HTPC case with crappy airflow, stay away from them. Western Digital is usually a safe bet. Samsung’s T133 and T166 models run cool and quiet, but my current favorite is the Seagate SV series; those things are dead silent, stay chilled, and are built for 24/7 workloads. Just do your homework on the warranty. Check what the manufacturer or the retailer is offering and grab whichever one gives you the longest coverage.

In this setup, how much noise the hard drive makes isn't even a big deal. Since the apps running on an HTPC aren't exactly heavy hitters, they don't push the drive hard enough to matter.

If you're worried about space inside the case, you can always grab a 2.5" drive instead. Just be prepared to pay a premium; they’re consistently pricier than the 3.5" versions.

8. TV Tuner Cards:

Almost at the finish line here. Now for the heart of the HTPC configuration—the component that actually makes this whole thing special.

There are plenty of options out there, and we can group them by their main specs:

1. Cards that only pick up analog antenna signals.
2. Hybrid cards that handle both analog and digital terrestrial signals (ATSC).
3. Satellite cards designed for satellite dish signals.

You can also split them by how they process the signal: hardware-based cards with a dedicated decoder, versus software-based cards that lean on your CPU to do the heavy lifting. Hardware ones cost more; software ones are cheaper. That’s basically the whole story. You won't see a massive difference in quality or speed. Like I said before, if you plan on doing anything else with your HTPC besides just watching or recording video, and you go with a software-based card, you’ll definitely want at least a dual-core processor.

The finer details of specific tuner cards are really only for the power users. For instance, HD video playback isn't just about the card itself; it’s a combo of hardware and software support involving various codecs and decoders. I haven't gone down that rabbit hole because I don't want to pretend I know more than I do. If anyone here actually knows their stuff regarding codecs, feel free to jump in and correct me if I'm wrong.
Ever since they picked the new mods and shuffled the subforums around, nobody’s said a single word about HTPCs. So, I’m starting this thread. Consider yourselves officially called out to jump in—especially if you know more about certain parts of this setup than I do.

HTPC (Home Theater Personal Computer):

An HTPC is basically just a dedicated rig for playing movies and music, or recording TV shows—whether you're pulling from cable, digital, or satellite.

The main perks of an HTPC usually boil down to this:

It looks good since it sits right out in the open in the living room, usually tucked along a shelf line.
Silence. Nobody wants their movie night ruined by a bunch of noisy fans.
3. Lower processing power. For these kinds of tasks, you usually don't even need much. A single-core processor is typically plenty—maybe a cheap dual-core if you're feeling generous. Honestly, even a single-core chip can handle recording TV, moving files over a network, and browsing the web all at once without breaking a sweat.
4. Price point. Most people here are going to disagree with me on this one, but if an HTPC isn't cheap, there’s zero point in building it. Why bother? You can pick up a decent mid-range standalone DVD player with a built-in hard drive for even less than what you'd spend on a DIY setup. $667You won't be able to build an HTPC rig for that kind of money—not that anyone would expect you to. But honestly, an HTPC is about way more than just recording shows or watching movies. It actually does a lot more than that.

Power users aren't going to cut it with this setup. They’ll want to stream HD shows or movies, pull in satellite feeds, or even get into heavy lifting like video editing and music conversions. This just won't do for them.

Look, if you just want to record some TV shows, watch a few programs, or play back music, you don't need a NASA supercomputer. You can get away with a prehistoric setup—I'm talking an old Celeron or Sempron rig with maybe 512MB of RAM and a basic DX9-compatible graphics card. With a tiny bit of investment, you’re good to go. $67 You can actually build a pretty decent HTPC setup using just a TV tuner card. Sure, you aren't going to take some old mini-tower case and display it on a shelf next to your TV—you’ll probably just shove it under the desk out of sight—but hey, it gets the job done.

Two things matter most: the TV and the antenna.

People usually start building an HTPC without giving a single thought to how they’re actually going to hook it up to their TV until the whole thing is finished. Then comes the inevitable moment of realization, and honestly, it can be a massive headache. Older TVs almost always rely on outdated inputs like S-Video, RCA composite, or component connections. Meanwhile, most modern motherboards used for these builds only offer VGA, DVI, or HDMI. If you end up stuck with that mismatch, you're in for a world of hurt trying to get a signal to work without converters—and let me tell you, finding decent ones around here is either impossible or ridiculously overpriced. The easiest fix? Just grab a cheap dedicated graphics card. Almost all of them have a TV-out option, so just use that to bridge the gap and save yourself the frustration.

If you’ve got a newer TV—whether it's an old CRT, an LCD, or a plasma—and it features a VGA, DVI, or HDMI port, then you're already halfway there. It's pretty straightforward.

Some motherboards actually come with a built-in TV-out port—I think some older Gigabyte models used to do this—which makes the setup way easier. You just have to double-check if the board includes the TV-out bracket. That’s the little metal piece you screw into the back of the case to give you the actual connector. If that bracket isn't included in the box, the port on the motherboard is basically useless, since you can't exactly go out and buy that specific part on its own.

People who haven't dealt with this before usually don't get how much the antenna and cable connections actually matter. They go out, buy a TV tuner card, plug everything in, and then start whining about how crappy the picture looks. Look, a solid antenna signal is the absolute baseline for decent reception. You either need a high-quality antenna, or if you're relying on over-the-air digital broadcasts, you have to be within range of the local transmitters—which, by the way, are pretty sparse and don't cover much ground. It’s basically a lottery. If you have the option, the best move is definitely cable TV; you get a strong, clean signal and reliable wiring. As for satellite? There's not much to say there. Just mount a dish on your balcony, run a few feet of cable, and you're set. Perfect reception, every time.

Coaxial connections—whether at the connectors, splitters, or any cable extensions—have to be rock solid. That means using high-quality connectors installed properly. Loose or wobbly connections are easily the biggest reason your signal turns into unwatchable garbage. And please, don't try to DIY a splitter by just twisting wires together and wrapping them in electrical tape; just buy a decent splitter, they aren't that expensive. Don't be cheap when it comes to buying a higher-quality coax cable, especially if you need something shielded against EM interference. If the cable run is long or running alongside other electronics, skip the budget stuff, or you’re basically inviting interference and a weak picture.

The actual length of the coax isn't a dealbreaker. Running a good quality cable with solid connections throughout your apartment (say, 30–50 feet, sometimes even 60+) won't kill your signal. However, if you're splitting that signal among multiple devices—like two TVs, a gaming console, two PCs, and an HTPC in my setup—it’s a smart move to pick up an antenna amplifier with multiple outputs. You can find reliable 4-to-6 port amplifiers at places like Best Buy for maybe $20 or $30. It ensures that having too many devices hooked up doesn't tank your signal strength.

One last thing: protecting your gear from lightning strikes. It’s rare, but when it happens, it's game over. An inductive surge can travel through your power line or your antenna cable and fry your components instantly. Nobody thinks about this until it actually happens, myself included. The fix is simple. You can get surge protectors that have both power outlets and coaxial/phone inputs built right in. Grab one of those and run your antenna cable through it before it hits your device or splitter, and you'll sleep better. Out of the massive forest of brands out there, I'd suggest looking at Belkin; they offer a lifetime warranty and even mention some kind of coverage if their protection fails.

Those are basically the fundamentals for putting together an HTPC build...
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With my limited knowledge, I’d probably try lowering my... first off...
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hahaha... you actually pulled it off? respect...