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Secondhand smoke issues in Health ·
Topic Starter👍 soulmate(as if I weren't already being radical enough in my own head😳 )

Look, you have to realize there isn't just one type of smoker or non-smoker. You’ve got the guys who toss their butts on the sidewalk, cough everywhere, and light up regardless of where they are—like standing at a crowded bus stop in a downpour—and then you have the ones who actually grasp how obnoxious their addiction is and might even feel bad about it.
Then you have non-smokers. Some people—like the OP and myself—experience secondhand smoke as a literal physical assault, while others don't give a damn if they're sitting in a cloud of smog. Because this spectrum of people is so wildly inconsistent, you can't just rely on that naive "we're all humans, we'll work it out" logic. We need strict legislation—the kind of rules where you could actually go skiing in Italy without walking into a cabin and getting choked out by cigarette stench—paired with actual positive incentives to help people quit.

The reality is that smoking is a choice, not some biological necessity, yet it causes direct harm to every living thing surrounding the smoker. But in the eyes of the economy, a smoker is treated like a VIP customer, which is why they're allowed to puff away in bars, clubs, casinos, blah blah blah. I guess the powers that be are specifically catering to that exact demographic.🤷

I've been a passive smoker my entire life. At home, it was my parents; at work, it was a colleague who would just nonchalantly light up right in our faces even though the three of us don't smoke and it was "strictly" prohibited. When I finally spoke up, I almost lost my job.🙄 I am beyond pissed about having to make this sacrifice—sacrificing my own well-being to an altar of filth that surrounds me. I honestly expect a day when smokers finally become the problem, instead of non-smokers always being the ones forced to deal with it.
CDs or Vinyl? Who's actually crazy? in Music ·
I mean, you could make that argument about pretty much any kind of collecting. For me, back in high school, I was obsessed with building up a book collection—literally blowing every cent I had just so I could one day walk into a house that actually had a real library.😬By now, I’ve probably handed over ninety percent of what I own to hardcore collectors who are basically characters in some movie.
It’s the same deal with CDs; they just create a massive mess in my room and, honestly, they’ve started getting on my nerves lately. But still, there’s that little spark of joy when I pick up an original copy every once in a while—mostly because of things stormyviper11 talks about. (I still remember staring at a display case filled with 2,000 original CDs and thinking, "Yeah, that's the dream.")
But even that's losing its luster for me, so I guess I'll just have to find some other random hobby to obsess over eventually.😁

As for Vinyl Records, most of those old pressings are just terrible quality and aren't even worth listening to.

It's not even just that the needle wears them down and the grooves eventually degrade after a certain amount of plays.🤔
Oh my god, Pritt, is PMS hitting you that hard?
Honestly, you actually had me laughing out loud :grohot: which—let's be real—is a rare occurrence on this board.

What’s with the victim complex? Fine, I’ll make a public announcement right here: Pritt is easily the smartest person on this entire forum, and I'm just over here pretending to be important.

Pritt, you're a legend.🤣

😵
gentlepuma20 said:Look, rich boy, you’re claiming FF doesn't have the good tracks—just everyone else does. Honestly, I’m not even a huge fan myself, but even slava Raškaj (and trust me, she isn't going anywhere anytime soon 😬 ) would catch the massive gap in quality between them and, say, Maroon 5. Plus, they’re releasing on Domina—meaning they actually pulled a punk move and ditched the major labels and all that corporate garbage. They’re a total breath of fresh air.
And "Take Me Out" is an absolute anthem. It might not hit quite like Toxic, but it’s a banger nonetheless. Now, go ahead—try to convince me otherwise. You can't. 🙂

Man, even gentlepuma20 couldn't hold it together😍

Seriously though, guys, these threads are always legendary😎
Look, this whole thread was started just to stir the pot and get a reaction😍 there was one great moment when we were all going at it and it seemed like Alex Rogers91 was the only one actually having a blast😘

to:Harold Wright54... I'm not trying to act superior or anything—I’m just bored. So, I start threads where we can all have a good time, even if some people choose to show their irritation instead😬

hollowseal33, honey, I know you don't do jokes, but seriously—you seem way too intense when you start getting worked up online and playing judge, jury, and executioner like Judge Judy... I'm pretty sure you've got better things to do than that😘 🙂
hollowseal33, your absolute best stuff always comes out when we're diving into topics like this—maybe "hate" is actually your primary fuel source🙂

It honestly baffles me how most of you are ready to go to war the second I drop a serious thread or claim some kind of niche expertise, yet the moment there's an actual debate to be had, you just fold like a cheap lawn chair. What is wrong with you people? Why is it so hard to just open a thread where you actually have to think for two seconds before typing?

To me, this forum is way, way more interesting than listening to NPR or scrolling through someone's personal top ten lists (which can be decent sometimes, sure)... but seriously, forget all that pedantic nonsense, just get to the point.
I started reading it and honestly? It was just boring... kind of like watching a mediocre indie film... I hit page 50 and just couldn't be bothered to continue. I mean, sure, I’ve read stuff like *The Alchemist* or *Siddhartha*—but that was ages ago, back when I was just some high school kid like you...

Being different isn't some edgy teenage phase—it's a fundamental human right. Period.🙂
wiredfalcon2 said:Timothy Jones85 - just read the last forty pages of Steppenwolf, at least. though honestly, the whole book pretty much sums you up anyway. I see you as the main protagonist of that story.

Yeah, true enough.

You should probably just crack a raw egg, burp, and finally feel alive

wtf wiredfalcon2?😵
boldscout72 boldscout72 said:I hate serious debates on this forum, but you—you just can't help yourself, can you? Honestly. Let’s actually define what a "pop product" is. For me, looking at the music scene, a "pop product" is Linkin Park. It’s simple: you take five good-looking guys and a producer. The guys have talent, sure—they know a few chords on the guitar and they’ve got tasteful tattoos in all the right places. Then you bring in the producer, who has the cash and the vision. You slap the name Linkin Park on them, stick them in every major US record store right behind Limp Bizkit—who were basically the superheroes of the charts back then—and the show begins. On the flip side, you’ve got four guys from Chicago who are just bored. After spinning everything from Talking Heads to whatever else, they decide to start a band. It’s like, "Hey, let’s just have some fun," write some catchy lyrics, and make music that makes people dance. Soon enough, they’re playing on every radio station and TV channel across America. Why? Because they’re fun. I mean, brainless kind of fun—but fun nonetheless. Even if you aren't looking for anything deeper. It’s like watching a Coen brothers movie. They’re incredibly entertaining, yet it isn't just low-brow slapstick. Look, we’re talking about pop music here, not high art, or jazz, or whatever. Pop music doesn't necessarily push boundaries; its job is to entertain people. Sometimes it does both, but most of the time, it doesn't. Why is The Killers a better band than Franz Ferdinand? Maybe some cosmic force decided so, even though they play similar music and maintain a similar media image. Popularity doesn't guarantee trash, and being obscure doesn't guarantee quality either. Man, you remind me of those metalheads who think if you haven't mastered every single musical scale in existence or swallowed every textbook on music theory, you don't have a right to have an opinion. Music isn't an exclusive club; it’s entertainment. Whether I’m screaming along to Teenage Kicks at Spunk while covered in beer, or trying to wrap my head around the sheer genius of Miles Davis, I’m just glad I have ears. I’m glad I can feel a melody, understand a story someone is telling me, or just uncontrollably move my limbs to the beat. What a miserable, stiff world it would be if every time we heard The Beatles, we had to stroke our chins and try to decode exactly what the songwriter meant by that specific tone—was it literal or a metaphor? Where is the answer to the meaning of life, the universe, and everything? Is there a Bog? Dude, just grab your girlfriend by the hand and take her out dancing. 🙂


So, you think I can't handle the serious stuff? That you think I just breeze past the deep topics on this forum? Please. I don't "hate" serious themes—I just have zero patience for people who perform them poorly. There's a difference. If you want to dive into something weighty, fine—let's go. But let's not pretend that being loud or dramatic is the same thing as having an actual point. I'm here for the substance, not the posturing.🙂Look, you’re like a fish in water when it comes to talking about them—you really know your stuff—but honestly? It feels like you don't quite fit in with the usual, empty, superficial chatter that defines most of this forum.😉
Look, this isn't some deep philosophical debate or anything—but compared to a spoonful of Nutella and an Ahmed's beef slider, this whole topic feels like reading Schopenhauer.😲

I haven't exactly pinpointed where we actually disagree enough to warrant this massive, deep-dive lecture—but hey, I guess this is just your way of venting about the whole topic by using me as a punching bag.

Look, I’ve gotta disagree with you on one thing—you’re seriously underselling pop music as an actual art form. You're treating it like it's just background noise, but there's real musicality there. Now, I’m not exactly the type to sit around memorizing every single discography ever released—my memory isn't quite that sharp—but I distinctly remember back when this group was more in sync on this topic. There used to be this massive consensus here where everyone would passionately defend the genre, making a huge deal about drawing a line between what constitutes a genuinely good pop track and the absolute garbage. The standard wasn't whether a song was getting played on the radio or if it worked at a club; the criteria were purely musical. It was about the craft.

FF just isn't a musically relevant band—period. They’re constantly being shoved down our throats as this gold standard for quality rock and everything else, but it's all nonsense. It feels like what happened with Limp Bizkit, only FF tries to play the "cool" card by leaning on bands that we actually respect. Honestly? That's exactly why I can't stand them.
Look, man—bands, whatever you want to call them—they’re fine. It’s all just noise and vibes, and honestly, when it comes to R&R, you’ve hit the nail on the head. But FF is reaching that "status symbol" level, or maybe they're already there, and I just care about whether there's actually any substance behind the hype. That's really all that matters to me.

Besides, most of my points were just... well, let's call them purely old-man-ranting-for-the-hell-of-it reasons. I guess it should be obvious by now that music is subjective—one person loves it, another hates it, and there's no fixing that (thank Bog for that, really).

I was definitely poking a bit of fun at FF, but I also wanted to point out that "serious" moment where FF became this massive phenomenon—basically the protagonists of the current rock scene—which, in a pop sense, actually has much better bands surrounding them.🙂
boldscout72 said:I don't get what the issue is with FF as a pop band? Is it just because they aren't afraid to show they actually have style in addition to musical talent? Plus, you've admitted more times than I can count that you haven't even finished one of their albums, so maybe we should question how qualified you are to judge their pop potential. Personally, I love pop music—whatever definition you want to use. From The Beatles onwards. Sure, Franz Ferdinand might not be the most original band on the planet, but within the pop framework, they definitely offer something above average; smart lyrics, an energetic dance rhythm, and catchy melodies. Does pop music *have* to offer more than that?

At the end of the day, I have way more respect for the polished acts who aren't afraid to show who they are and where they come from, rather than those die-hard punks/rockers/posers trying to hold onto their spot in pop culture through looks and attitude instead of actual talent.

I literally said myself that they play well and make a great pop product, but they aren't a great pop band because they lack the originality to pull that off—not even for that.

As for the lyrics, I don't know, I mostly just follow whatever most people are interested in, but if we're talking about catchy melodies and good rhythms, artists like Cassandra or even Colonia had that stuff too—so I think pop can definitely deliver better music than FF.

I've listened to Darts of Pleasure, four tracks from the first album, and four from the second multiple times—so yeah, am I competent?🤔

And since when aren't looks and attitude the two biggest components of any "polished" act?
😕

To me, FF just falls into that category of bands that recycle great music to mask the fact that they are a much worse band than they pretend to be. 😬

By the way, regarding Britney, I always thought the Backstreet Boys were absolute legends—Backstreet's back, alright!!!😎
There’s a whole list of subjective reasons why

-I think they play well enough, but they don't have a single ounce of punk rock in them😬—they just feel flat to me, totally two-dimensional, like Tony Cetinsky or Robbie Williams... just a polished pop product

But what really grates on me is how they've taken music that is essentially honest, fun, smart, and still punk... you know, the kind of stuff bands like Google make... which makes them feel slimy to me,

And objectively speaking, I haven't heard a single decent pop song from them, nor do they sound particularly clever
Now for the stupid, petty reasons

They come off as the ultimate indie snobs to me🙂—look, I'm not a violent guy, but if I ever actually laid someone out in my life, it would be the lead singer of Facebook.... there are incredibly few people who are this irritating just by looking at them.......the vocals irritate me, and the band name is an absolute disaster

Because honestly, I'd much rather have Hot Hot Heat in their spot.........smarter, more fun, way more original music

Just like how I wish instead of Coldplay, we had Thrills, who are a far superior band

Bloc Party is probably the worst foreign band name ever, I can't stand the vocals and they sound completely recycled. But you have to admit, they make smarter, higher-energy music than Facebook.

I formed my opinion on Facebook the second I saw them on MTV when they were playing on loop—all these almost identical bands, but Facebook stood out to me immediately as being terrible........and then a few months later, they broke through with that one song

Take Me Out
He totally missed Radio 4 and that one band that opened for Death Disco at the Fillmore... definitely missing from the best-of list
Personal Top Lists & Rankings in Music ·
The top 3 pizza spots in Chicago

1. Lou Malnati's - deep dish is king here
2. Giordano's - if you want that cheese pull
3. "6" - classic marinara style
Personal Top Lists & Rankings in Music ·
pule :) said:I have to share this...
The top 3 ways to get over someone fast:
1. Winter, snow, ice everywhere. We're walking side by side, chatting away, we hit that steep hill near the marshlands, I slip—and he just steps right out of the way to save himself!! 🙂

This is basically the law of nature.🤣 🤣
Frank Howard79 said:Radiohead just earned themselves an immediate ignore.😲

Man, back in the day, "The Lonesome Crowded West" was my absolute everything—it was pure gold. But then I actually sat down and listened to "Float On" and that entire album? Total disaster... honestly, it just completely lost me. And that’s exactly why they end up on my list of overrated bands.
😘
Nicholas Perez33 said:Strokes is way more post-punk than "disco punk"—and don't even get me started on Walkmen. What the hell?!

The best
1. !!!
2. Liars
3. The Chinese Stars😍

Revival? More like schmival.

Look, Strokes falls squarely into the post-punk category—not disco punk. For me, the litmus test for all these bands was always either that steady thumping, driving beat or that specific downstroke picking style, and yeah, they all checked those boxes.😈
The GOATs:

1. Rapture
2. Hot Hot Heat
3. !!!
4. Liars
5. Dead 60's
6. The Strokes
7. Walkmen
8. Interpol

The absolute bottom tier:

1. Franz Ferdinand
2. Editors
3. Bloc Party
4. Radiohead
5. The Zutons
6. Danko Jones
Narantxa said:"cabbies on crack"
"strength to endure"
"anxiety" 😵

you might as well toss that bin into the recycling along with the scraps of the It's Alive discography😬 😈 Man

look, that's just the way things go😬 but honestly—how can you call it "anxiety"😲 that song was basically the first punk anthem for me and my best buddy😍 it was because of that specific album that I actually put in the work to learn the Ramones

I’d love to ask Narantxa where they hid their Bleach album😬 though I'm genuinely baffled by the obsession with Freakonice in both instances😲
Mars Volta - Frances the Mute
Queens of the Stone Age /
Nirvana - Bleach
At the Drive-In - Relationship of Violence
Green Day - Freakonomics
Dismemberment Plan - Change
Slint - Spiderland
Ramones - Mondo Bizzaro
Soundgarden - Down on the Upside
Smashing Pumpkins - Machina
Audioslave - Self-Titled
Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine
Bad Religion - Grey Race
I swear, you can’t hear any of that metal influence in Primus—please, give me a break

But if we’re being honest, Omar totally played in some death metal band back in the day—pretty sure right before ATDI, they actually went by the name CIA
;D