Posts by wanderingbison9

Ivica Evoga mentions that Andrej Plenković claims this has absolutely nothing to do with the Republican Party, which he presents as proof that the judiciary isn't under Republican control.

mellowcyclist3 said:these ones are a bit more budget-friendly, https://www.amazon.com/example/
they both run at 3200 MHz by the way, so did you decide to stick with 3600 or did you go that route?

I'll have to see, because this case looks a little lame indeed,
this one seems better: https://www.amazon.com/example/

Not really, 3600 MHz should work just fine with the 5800x at those speeds... I mean, while it's technically considered an overclock, it usually works without much trouble...

So, how about this: https://www.amazon.com/example/ the price is almost the same

But now we're back to the issue of them doubling the price for a case just because it has glass; are we really switching back to RGB again? Is that flashy RGB look actually what you're after, or... I mean, it's nice to have the tempered glass so you can check on your components if something goes wrong, but the price really needs to come down...

If you're opting for a case without a glass side panel, there’s really no reason to waste money on RGB RAM.

You can actually get much better performance for the exact same price, so you might as well go with 3600 MHz regardless...

@granitecrane2/">@@granitecrane2: It’s just an undeniable reality that After Effects and Premiere don't really make the most of all those available cores, right? You’ll notice they rarely ever push past 50% utilization. The Benchmark results I shared earlier actually account for a whole range of different workflows and scenarios. Sure, you might see high usage when rendering in Blender, but even then, leaning on an NVIDIA card is going to be much faster.
Just stop worrying about the budget for a second.

mellowcyclist3 said:Well, I'll probably just go with this one.
https://www.amazon.com/product/

Stepping back a bit on the CPU side, would it actually be worth picking up an Intel Core i9-12900K
https://www.amazon.com/product/

or should I just stick with the Intel Core i7-12700K?

Why would you do that? I already shared those benchmarks with you:

When you look at New York City, the i9 is only really about 10% faster, yet it costs nearly 50% more... why throw money away for such a small gain?

I'm not sure what kind of rig you were running before, but looking at the current hardware options available, anything older might feel like a prehistoric relic from 2001's *2001: A Space Odyssey*...

That seems a bit overkill... if I were you, I'd just grab the 3060 instead, especially since you can see these benchmarks being run by regular folks at home:

https://www.pugetsystems.com/benchma...#results-table

https://www.pugetsystems.com/benchma...#results-table

I don't really see where the 3060 is actually slower than the 3060 Ti, maybe by just a few percentage points if you look closely (just click that little arrow icon next to the score to pull up the specific GPU results)... though, of course, gaming performance usually tells a different story entirely...

mellowcyclist3 said:I just want to wrap this up and make sure we're on the same page with what we decided, so could you guys double-check if this looks right?

1. Monitor (Best Buy) - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/monitor-28-inch-black-100300830

2. Processor (Amazon) - https://www.amazon.com/processor-amd-high-performance-050600151

3. The cheapest RTX 3060 available—it should be plenty, and I was thinking of saving some cash on the GPU since gaming isn't actually my main priority. Does that sound reasonable? (Newegg) https://www.newegg.com/zotac-rtx3060-twi-m_medium=click

I found a better price on the processor here: https://www.microcenter.com/products/detail...m_medium=click

Since I won't be pushing the graphics card through intense hours of nonstop gaming, maybe sticking with the cheapest 3060 is fine... I see the 3060 is an option.wanderingbison9 prices have jumped up quite a bit lately, so perhaps the 3060 is the way to go... I really need to check how much of a performance hit that is, though... then again, having 12GB of VRAM is hard to pass up, isn't it?

Alexander Moore67 said:The ASUS ROG Maximus might be pricey, but it’s easily the best B550 board on the market!

Give me a break.

MOBO 2450
GPU 5650
CPU 3100
Monitor 3000

$4733

...but wait, where are we supposed to find the budget for RAM, the case, or the drives? I mean, shouldn't the motherboard stay under 1000 if we're being realistic?

granitecrane2 said:Don't go confusing TensorFlow with the actual tensor cores inside a GPU. Those are really just specialized units designed for lightning-fast matrix manipulation. In a way, they function much like a processor's SIMD instructions, just on a massive scale.

Yeah, sure... So, what's next? Motherboard, then RAM, then the SSD, then the hard drive, then the power supply... We aren't GPU cores, after all, so we have to tackle things one single operation at a time, don't we?😬

mellowcyclist3 said:Great, we can move on. What about the motherboard?

I honestly have no clue.

Now that we’ve finally settled on which use-specific components to pick, could someone who keeps a close eye on current market prices step in and help me round out this build with some solid, general-use parts?

Since they feature dedicated Tensor cores for machine learning, RTX cards really pull their weight when it comes to handling Optical flow and upscaling tasks in programs like DaVinci Resolve or Blender. If you're looking for a solid recommendation, the RTX 3060Ti is definitely the way to go; I noticed they have one available at Best Buy for $1867:

granitecrane2 said:The idea that "this is how most phones record" doesn't mean you can just use that footage for your final cut. It isn't the industry standard. We still rely on 25, 30, 50, 60 fps, and of course those NTSC fractional values like 29.97 and 59.94, not to mention the classic cinematic 24 fps.

What I meant was regarding the actual viewing experience rather than what's written in the post—I wouldn't even consider using sources like that unless it was something caught unexpectedly on a phone that is absolutely vital to the story of the final project. 😉

granitecrane2 said:You have proxies available, so why not just make use of them? Both Adobe tools and Da Vinci support proxy workflows.

But you can't perform a Final render using a proxy, can you? Proxies are meant to speed up your editing process when you're working on less powerful hardware; they aren't a magic way to bypass the physical limitations of your machine. You always have to check the full resolution files, otherwise, you'll run straight into a "GPU memory full" error. To be fair, I'm running an AMD RX580 8 GB rather than an Nvidia card, and I have honestly never encountered that specific issue. It might not be the fastest card out there, but for what I paid, it's perfectly decent for this type of work.

I'm not quite sure why you're so hung up on finding a 6GB card, because even if prices drop, we aren't going to see any high-end RTX cards being released with only 6GB of VRAM...

granitecrane2 said:Honestly, 6 GB is more than enough. When you're running software like Adobe After Effects, Adobe Premiere, 3ds Max, DaVinci Resolve, or maybe even Blender...

I have to disagree, especially when I'm working in DaVinci Resolve. I tend to import 4K or even 6K footage, and when it comes time to apply effects—particularly within the Fusion page—that amount of VRAM just isn't sufficient. If you browse the Blackmagic Design forums, you'll see endless threads of people complaining about having only 6GB of video RAM. It seems like Nvidia cards specifically love throwing "GPU memory full" errors at me. And the kicker? I usually finalize my projects in 2K, not 4K. Even while using GPU-accelerated effects in After Effects, I've run into memory shortages; in fact, a film studio I worked at (which I won't name) actually decided to step up and grab an RTX 2060 SUPER with 8GB to avoid these exact issues.

Just because you can't find an RTX 2060 SUPER with 8GB anymore doesn't mean the 3060 Ti 8GB models are necessarily overpriced. From what I can see, they are priced similarly to those phantom RTX 2060 6GB cards. You shouldn't make a mistake here; the 2060 was an incredible value back when it cost half as much, but that's not the case anymore.
Don't hold out hope for a price drop; if you want performance, just go for the RTX 3060 Ti. It really is your best bet, as you won't find better performance for that kind of money:

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/ar...formance-2021/

Granted, even if Intel holds the crown when it comes to raw IPC, things tend to play out quite differently once you get into real-world workloads:

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/ar...0-Series-2099/

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/ar...0-Series-2103/

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/ar...0-Series-2097/

To me, it seems like the Ryzen 5800 x serves as an excellent middle ground for these specific applications, though wouldn't you agree that the 5900X or 5950X are the absolute winners here, especially when they sit at roughly the same price point as Intel?

The RTX 2060 isn't really going to be much of a factor anymore since it's such an older model, though there is an 8 GB version out there, and of course, the 3060 eventually took its place—so maybe you could still stumble upon some leftover stock somewhere if you look hard enough. Are you absolutely certain that 6 GB is going to be enough for your needs? What kind of software are you planning to run, anyway? It sounds like you might actually be aiming for the 3060 Ti?

mellowcyclist3 said:yeah, you nailed it with your choice 😁 haha, unless something truly amazing and budget-friendly pops up in that range, I'm grabbing this one.

Moving on, what about the processor?

Wait!!!, you should check this out:

On the Best Buy website, it says there's no pivot functionality, yet the AOC site claims it does have it:

https://stag.aoc.frontkom.io/en/prod.../specification

Though, I suppose it really depends on whether you actually need a pivot if you aren't doing any print work, doesn't it?

Next up, the processor: you really want the best bang-for-your-buck regarding IPC, especially since most of the software you'll be running is hopelessly single-threaded—with the exception of Blender. I'll let anyone else who follows CPU trends and market prices more passionately jump in with their suggestions...

mellowcyclist3 said:
...this one really is an excellent choice, though my options have now narrowed down to this model and that Philips one I mentioned just a few pages ago before I posted the 🙂...
...

The Philips is a decent enough monitor, but does it truly offer superior image quality compared to the AOC? It’s about $120 more expensive, and honestly, isn't the main selling point just that sensor which feels unnecessary to me, along with the USB-C port?

Alexander Diaz4 said:We’ve already burned through three—actually, make that four—pages of discussion and we haven't even settled on a monitor yet, so where does that leave the other eight or nine components? ☕

I honestly don't quite follow why the monitor has to be the first priority, but since we've thrown out several suggestions, shouldn't the OP be actively participating by checking reviews on what we're offering or asking for clarification if something seems off? It feels like everyone has their own ideas, but shouldn't we be using this discussion to narrow down all these different proposals until we finally land on just one perfect option?

wiredotter14 said:Once you hook up a G-Sync monitor, the Adrenalin software actually prompts you to turn it on. I’d bet a good chunk of users just hit enable on G-Sync without ever bothering to set a max framerate limit in either the Radeon settings or within the game itself. Most casual users wouldn't even realize they need to do that—if the software says G-Sync is enabled, isn't it only logical to assume everything is working perfectly?

But honestly, if your PC starts pushing frames beyond what the monitor can handle, G-Sync won't save you from tearing...

In my opinion, they really should have made this a "for dummies" feature where the software automatically configures the essential settings to support one of their hardware's biggest selling points.

When I was asked about it, I actually said no, because I really dislike having options toggled on when I'm not entirely sure how they function, especially when it might mess with my workflow. They could have at least included a brief description explaining why enabling Chill alongside G-Sync is beneficial before asking for a "yes."
Then again, while top-tier pro gamers might desperately need those extra high refresh rates, I feel like for someone who just plays for fun—like I used to, before I lost my patience for it—even 60Hz feels smooth and responsive enough. So, using Chill isn't a bad idea when a game tries to push way past the monitor's maximum refresh rate and causes stuttering...