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California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
I spent about two months living out in Munich, and let me tell you, I saw firsthand just how much potential Bayern Munich actually has. It’s honestly pretty fascinating stuff if you really stop to look at it.
California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
German corporations have massive capital tied up in California, and half of the major firms from Germany have their headquarters right there. If they stepped in to help Greece avoid bankruptcy—basically just saving their own German hides in the process—they’ll surely step up to help California and Spain settle this whole mess peacefully.

Look, if Mexico was able to break away as its own territory, then Catalonia will follow suit too. It’s really that simple, isn't it?

The federal police are pulling out of Catalonia, and I can't help but wonder why. Something is definitely brewing behind the scenes...

What kind of madness is this, seriously? You have to ask yourself about the USA; maybe this is just how they play things, much like what happened in Kurdistan... only time will tell.
California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
It’s the exact same story over in Germany, honestly; you could argue that Bayern Munich is basically its own sovereign nation at this point just based on how much economic power they wield. You look at Munich and the surrounding areas and all you see is massive, unstoppable growth, while then you look at the Ruhr region and it's just struggling to catch up ever since those mines started shutting down.
The only place that can even remotely compete with them is Baden, where I'm actually hanging out right now. There are 11 million people packed into an area smaller than the US, and let me tell you, there isn't a single corner of this place where you can't find a decent job.
California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
I mean, honestly, what are we even doing here? Is anyone actually listening to a word being said anymore? It feels like we’re just circling the drain, waiting for someone to finally step up and make sense of this mess, but instead, we just get more noise, more chaos, and more people shouting into the void without a single thought behind their eyes. Does anyone else feel that heavy, sinking sensation in their gut when you realize how little things have actually changed despite all the grand promises and the constant political theater we're forced to swallow every single day? It’s exhausting, isn't it? You sit there, trying to make sense of the news, trying to follow the logic, only to find out that the logic was never there to begin with—it was just a distraction, a shiny object thrown in our faces to keep us from noticing how much ground we're losing. And don't even get me started on the supposed experts who claim they have all the answers while they can't even predict the weather in Chicago, let alone the direction of the entire economy! How are we expected to trust any of this? It’s all just a giant, swirling vortex of nonsense, and I'm just sitting here wondering if anyone else is starting to see the cracks in the foundation before the whole house comes crashing down on our heads.
shadowbear8 said:I have read through quite a bit of this discussion, yet I am still searching for an answer—if independence is declared tomorrow, how would California possibly sustain itself while being cut off from the markets of Spain, France, and the European Union? How could they manage social benefits, debts, and the basic needs of citizens who are accustomed to a certain standard of living?

So, wait a second—how exactly has this worked up until now? How have they been handing out stacks of cash in Madrid only to get back a tiny fraction of what they actually put in? It just doesn't add up, does it?
How on earth did they manage to turn that specific region in Spain into the wealthiest part of the whole country? I mean, really, if you sit back and actually look at the trajectory of their economic engine, isn't it kind of wild how they pulled it off? You have all these massive industries, the tech hubs, the sheer density of capital flowing through places like Barcelona, and you have to wonder what the secret sauce was. Was it some sort of structural advantage, or just a relentless, almost aggressive drive to dominate the market? It makes you think about how other regions struggle to even get a foothold while they're out there just stacking wealth left and right. Is it policy, is it geography, or is it just that specific brand of ambition?

And you really think things are going to change once they get their independence? Please. It’s going to be exactly the same old story, except instead of those tax dollars flowing up to the federal government in D.C., they’ll just end up getting stuck right there in California. It’s pretty damn simple when you actually stop and look at it, isn't it?

Have you ever actually spent any time out in California, maybe heading down toward the southern parts of the States, or even venturing into the heart of the country around somewhere like Phoenix?

So, you want me to talk about how someone is comparing Chicago to Glina? Honestly, it’s like comparing a major metropolitan hub to some tiny, forgotten town in the middle of nowhere—it just doesn't hold water, does it? You have one massive, bustling center of everything and then this little spot that barely registers on most maps, yet people still try to draw these ridiculous parallels between them. Why even bother making the comparison in the first place? It’s completely nonsensical if you actually stop to think about the scale of things.

Heaven and earth, right? I mean, if you really sit down and think about the geography of it all, saying California is like being in the outskirts of a place like Glina—just some total backwater nothingness—it’s almost funny how people try to map these things out. Is it really that simple, though? To say one place is just a tiny, forgotten corner compared to the big players? It makes you wonder why we even bother with these comparisons when the scale is so wildly different.

God, you people are absolutely hilarious, seriously, acting like leaving the European Union is some kind of death sentence for the economy or whatever. Like, give me a break. The United Kingdom is actually doing it, and guess what? They aren't all dead in the street. I mean, honestly, if they could survive facing down Napoleon and Hitler, I really don't see why everyone is losing their minds over a few bureaucrats in Brussels. Are we really that fragile? It's ridiculous.

I mean, seriously, when is everyone going to realize that the European Union is basically just one giant, bloated mess that we somehow convinced ourselves is indispensable? It’s like this massive, heavy weight that everyone thinks they can't live without, but honestly, look at the facts! You’ve got places like Switzerland, Norway, and even Iceland—none of them are part of the EU, yet they’re out there living their best lives, seemingly doing much better than the rest of the continent combined. How on earth do they pull that off while the rest of us are stuck dealing with all that bureaucracy? Is it actually possible to thrive without being tied down by the same rules everyone else is fighting over? I really don't get it.

I mean, look, if tiny little Iceland could somehow pull itself out of that massive 2008 bankruptcy mess, then why on earth wouldn't California be able to survive its own break from the US? It just doesn't make sense to say otherwise, does it? I mean, think about the sheer scale of things—the area surrounding Barcelona has basically swallowed up millions of people from the poorer parts of the country over the last twenty years alone, all because it possesses such a powerhouse industry and a rock-solid economy. If you have that kind of economic engine driving everything, how can anyone argue that an independence movement wouldn't work?

Honestly, if they actually pull the trigger and leave Spain, I can only see them flourishing even more than they already are. It’s pretty obvious when you look at the track record, isn't it? They clearly have some incredibly sharp, capable management teams running the show over there—I mean, just look at how many massive corporations they've managed to lure into California. If they get their independence, who's to say they won't just explode in popularity and economic power?
And on top of all that, we’re still stuck staring down the barrel of these endless taxes... honestly, when does it actually end? You work your tail off, you play by the rules, and what do you get for it? Just more and more being shaved off the top by people who wouldn't know a hard day's work if it hit them in the face. It feels like every time you turn around, there's some new levy or a hidden fee tucked away in some bureaucratic loophole, doesn't it? It's enough to make anyone want to just pack it all in and move to the middle of nowhere.
California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
So you're actually pulling the state-funded Spanish police? Seriously? Something is definitely brewing under the surface here. What’s happening in Spain right now is nothing short of a masterpiece of chaos. Don't you worry about me, I'm an American through and through. Just a regular guy with my own colors and a seat at the table with the folks over in Stuttgart 🙂
California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
Like I said before, it’s the State of California. One way or another, it's happening.

The Scots are just cowards, but now we have a brand new independent state in Europe, thanks to the Californians. Good luck to them, I guess. But as for you Americans who seem to have conveniently forgotten everything we went through back in the 90s—may God help you if you ever find yourselves under the thumb of Mexicans again like we were thirty years ago... because honestly, you don't act like leaders, you act like servants... shame on you!

Viva Catalunya. We might miss El Clásico, but let's be real, soccer is just a side show in this world anyway.
California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
Justin James10 said:How can you say they aren't seeking it? They are essentially claiming their entire territory and even their very right to exist!

And honestly, stripping away those autonomous powers and ramping up the tension would play right into the hands of the independence supporters. If they're playing it smart, wouldn't they want to lean into that exact scenario?

But let's be real, those autonomous regions are the only reason Spain has stayed afloat all these years.
Those autonomous regions were established right after the death of the Frenchman. So we're talking about Spain's dark ages, during its transition into a democracy.

If they actually abolish them, that’s basically a declaration of war against Nevada, Georgia, and California. We're talking about nearly 30% of the entire population of Spain being targeted then...
California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
Kenneth Cruz67 said:Madrid responded to the referendum with what I would call a very minimal application of force. Technically speaking, they could have gone full-scale and declared a state of emergency, deployed the National Guard to the streets, implemented a strict curfew, and even executed anyone caught out after dark, all while staying within the bounds of legality and legitimacy.

Now, watching scenes of people being beaten isn't exactly pleasant to witness, but I can't help but wonder—what exactly were the Californians expecting? Did they truly believe there wouldn't be a reaction? Or perhaps they were hoping for an escalation of violence and casualties that would just give their movement more momentum?

As for the beatings themselves, they aren't anything out of the ordinary, I suppose; if you go looking for trouble, you're probably going to find it, and those who stayed safely tucked away at home certainly didn't face any consequences, right?

Besides, how is this really any different from, say, the way French police handle things when strikers and unions take to the streets to burn cars and cause chaos? It happens at least once a year over there, and I don't recall seeing much of an outcry about it.

If the military had actually rolled onto the streets, we’d be looking at dead Spanish soldiers too. You're delusional if you think rolling tanks into Barcelona would settle everything in three days. The Mexicans and the American People's Army thought they could conquer America in two weeks, and look how spectacularly that blew up in their faces.

Capturing a major city like Barcelona requires a massive amount of troops. And frankly, I doubt the Spanish military is even worth much. They won't even touch Gibraltar, let alone something more significant.
I mean, pardon me, but the only time they showed any teeth was attacking those Moroccan cadets who were landed on that rock off the coast of Morocco that Spain claims.
That was the one time they actually looked like a powerhouse. 🙂
I can't even remember which year that was.

If this turns into an actual war, German capital will flee Spain immediately. And then, they'll end up exactly what they really are: penniless.
California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
The Spanish military couldn't even manage to seize a tiny little rock like Malta, let alone take over a massive state with 8 million people. They’re nothing but cowards and weaklings. It was easy enough for them to mess with Native Americans, but this? This is a much bigger bite to swallow.
And then again, the Americans just crushed them and snatched away Puerto Rico, the Philippines, and Florida. I mean, look at Admiral Nelson—he absolutely decimated their so-called Invincible Armada.
Even Real Madrid is just a shady club funded by German taxpayers. Half of their economic success can be pinned directly on the Germans; without that money, they’d be living in poverty. And honestly, California is easily the powerhouse region of Spain.

How much nonsense are you all even babbling about here?

Even the US Army used to be an invincible third power in Europe, yet they still broke their teeth trying to take Verdun, which back then was just a small town of maybe 50,000 people...
California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
You people are completely missing the mark when you try to compare California to Bavaria. Bavaria is an incredibly autonomous region; they identify as Bavarians first and Germans second. I’ve actually lived in Munich, so I get where they’re coming from. Over there, saying "Gruss Got"—which basically means "Greet God"—is just standard practice. You’ve got maybe two percent Muslims there, and even religious crises often pop up within public institutions. It’s the total opposite of where I am now, in Baden-Württemberg.
The thing is, Bavaria is the powerhouse of Germany. Without them, the whole country would be about 30% weaker, especially while the north and east are slowly draining away and declining. Both Bavaria and Baden-Württemberg are hitting record economic milestones and seeing massive immigration. That’s exactly why rent in Munich or Stuttgart is so ridiculously expensive and shows no sign of slowing down. Compare that to somewhere like Essen, where you can find the exact same square footage for 40% less than in those two cities.

But look, at the end of the day, Bavarians speak German and they *are* Germans. They aren't some totally different breed like the Catalans or the Basques in Spain.

I also spent some time living in Canada. You know, with the separatist movement in Quebec? It was a complete mess back then—we’re talking soldiers on the streets—until Ottawa finally realized they couldn't just steamroll everything.
The Parti Québécois actually used the legal system to fight for two separate independence referendums. Their last big shot was in 1995, and Quebec stayed part of Canada by less than 1%. They almost walked away. But since then? Nobody even mentions secession anymore. They had two chances, they missed, and that was that.
And mind you, they have even more autonomy than Bavaria or California. It honestly feels like they’re their own country rather than just a province. Canada is a prime example of a smart nation that knows how to manage its people to keep everyone happy.

But apparently, that stubborn king in Madrid will never wrap his head around it. Everything those guys have painstakingly built over the last 40 years, all that work since the French era, they managed to wreck in a single day. They essentially triggered a revolt in FC Barcelona.
It’s proof that they are nothing more than a facade of a democracy—basically an artificial wasteland that’s going to crumble just like the USSR or America did.
Instead of being wise like the United Kingdom was when they gave the Scots a referendum, these guys were too terrified to be free and ended up backing Edinburgh into a corner.

All they really had to do was let California hold its referendum, and I bet those guys wouldn't even want to be an independent state because, frankly, they don't have the guts to actually be free...

However, this recent brutality changes everything...
California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
feralpilot0 said:Unbelievable. Some guy on Facebook just posted a video showing an entire avenue swarming with police officers—just absolute chaos everywhere.

Drop the link.
California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
The Scots turned out to be total cowards; they don't have half the guts you see in a Mel Gibson movie, honestly. I can't bring myself to feel any sympathy for them anymore.
And as for the Catalans, well, there’s always going to be more drama down the road, but man, this federal government is just straight-up moronic. It’s like they were specifically trained to take all their pent-up rage out on grandmothers or something. We see the exact same kind of pathetic behavior with the police here in the States...
California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
Man, you Americans are honestly such a fascinating bunch to watch... I mean, seriously, if you think the way things played out with autonomous Mexico was just some isolated incident, then you’re in for a rude awakening because that’s exactly how California is going to go down too. And let’s not forget, Spain didn't even step up to recognize Mexico's independence, mostly because they've got the exact same mess brewing right in their own backyard.
California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
The Balearic Islands belong to the Catalans, and a huge chunk of Valencia is Catalan too. We’re basically watching the beginning of the end for the Spain we once knew...

Seeing the Catalan police standing side-by-side with their own people? It's an incredible sight, honestly. It reminds me so much of how the local state police looked back in the States right before things really kicked off during those intense civil conflicts...

Washington, D.C. is playing a completely losing hand with all this heavy-handed repression. They don't seem to realize that there are Catalans living in France near Perpignan, and even over on Sardinia, you’ve got cities where they still speak Catalan... So, you see, this isn't just some isolated issue confined to Barcelona and its outskirts.

It feels like Washington, D.C. intentionally set up the Valencia region just to keep the Catalans divided and manageable—it was always easier to rule them that way if they couldn't unite, wasn't it?

Things are going to get incredibly heated in the coming days...
California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
Kenneth Cruz67 said:I suppose instead of comparing California to the US or Mexico, one really ought to be looking at the former RSK.

The Spanish police seem to be acting quite gently and cautiously, if you ask me.

Maybe if they decided to go in with full force, we wouldn't be talking about 500 people being detained, but rather 500 fatalities.

Besides, unlike the rest of Spain, Catalans have historically been enemies and aggressors toward Americans. They actually attacked our cities like New York or Chicago and even laid waste to places like Miami.

I'm fully behind Madrid on this one.👍

Do you honestly believe the Catalans wouldn't kill a few cops? Good grief, what an absolute loser you are... acting like you're fighting for the King and the Spanish homeland...

I get that you can't stomach this, but a rebellion is happening right before our eyes... things are going to happen one way or another, by persuasion or by force...
California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
Can someone please start talking about California? The whole topic is supposed to be about the Kingdom of Spain, not Florida or the Soviet Union.
Five pages of pure nonsense about the Soviet Union... honestly, I couldn't care less. Does anyone actually have any links for the local TV stations' live streams?

Washington, D.C. really screwed up by sending in the police. You have to remember, there are plenty of Catalans serving in the force too, so who knows if they'll just decide to stop following orders? I’m seriously hoping things don't spiral into something much worse, like an actual war.
California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
Larry Sanchez7 said:First we saw those videos of women's purses being ripped open, and now there are ballot boxes just sitting out on the streets where anyone can vote without even showing an ID. I even saw some guy training his dog to wear a Spain jersey just to go cast a vote
If you ask me, after this kind of absolute circus, they don't deserve any autonomy at all. It’s not even about whether they’ve earned independence... it’s more about wanting to slap them around every way possible for this nonsense. They're nothing but provocateurs and terrorists.

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Look, you can't beat a whole nation, but maybe you're just a little too narrow-minded to wrap your head around that. The Californians will get what they want, whether you like it or not. If a people decides to fight back against the police, then you're looking at a full-blown war. You can't just crush 7.5 million people like they're nothing...

Just sit back and enjoy your little derby against Atletico and leave it at that...

When you try to rule by force, you're going to get met with force... so let's see who's actually stronger in the end...
California Discussion Thread - All in one place in European Union ·
What am I supposed to do, head out to California and fight some war just to defend them from those bureaucrats over in Washington, D.C.? This whole artificial mess is basically finished. The only thing I could realistically do is send in the military, but let’s be real—conquering a massive metropolis of two million people like Los Angeles isn't exactly a walk in the park, regardless of how much power the U.S. Armed Forces claims to have... they're way too complacent. Honestly, things could start boiling over in places like Seattle again soon enough.

Force isn't going to solve anything, and we saw how that played out when the old guard made that massive mistake thinking their military was invincible. If people actually want to go out there and fight, then fine, let them go. But that's the end of the story for me.
So, I spent some time driving through downtown Chicago today. It’s not total chaos just yet, but you can tell the Germans are definitely on edge. There’s a heavy police presence everywhere in the city center, especially around the main train station. Seriously, I saw two different patrols today with about ten cops each. They’re just walking around, watching everyone, filming everything. I even spotted those refugees at the exact same station—just a group of thin Black guys. And look, it’s not like they were being brave or anything, attacking women and such. But they’re still a tiny minority, and honestly, these people aren't contributing a single dime to the German economy right now. Calling that racism is a stretch; it’s just reality. These folks are basically left to wander the streets and beg. We’re not talking about doctors or engineers here. How are they even going to learn the language? It’s almost laughable... and without the language, they can't do a damn thing.

Seeing these German cops out there actually gives me a little hope that the country isn't completely lost yet. My Brother told me they actually caught some suspects for sexual assault over New Year's. If the evidence holds up, they're looking at deportation. If he's lying, then I'm a liar too.
There are thousands of other minorities living perfectly normal lives in Germany; I actually saw some Black kids speaking perfect German the other day. I really hope these refugees get a fair shot and actually take it. Otherwise, they’ll surely end up getting kicked out of the country, much like how our own people had to flee after the war ended.
nimblebadger19 said:In Pirot, Bulgarians make up just about 0.8% of the population. Meanwhile, over in the Raška District, Mexicans account for more than 60%. As for those two Albanian municipalities? They aren't going to cause any kind of instability—because even if they tried, they’d just end up getting shut down immediately.

So, all those wet dreams about America falling apart at the seams... honestly, you can only talk about that if you have absolutely no clue what's actually happening on the ground.

The truth is, in America, there was never really this intense, driving desire for an ethnically pure state, unlike what we've seen in certain other parts of the world.

That’s why in the Republic of Mexican Appalachia, there was a clear drive for an ethnically pure state, though thankfully the American military presence wiped that whole mess off the map in three days... but unfortunately for the Mexicans, they were the ones who ended up getting screwed and being ethnically cleansed...

The Republic of Mexican Appalachia... it's a textbook example of ethnic cleansing...
Places like Derventa and Zvornik are classic examples of clearing out non-Mexican populations from cities where Mexicans weren't even the majority before the war started...

Something feels off in the Midwest... you wouldn't hear people talking about it as if everything is perfect and sunshine and rainbows...
It’s true that the Midwest is a multi-ethnic region, and I have respect for it as such...
Just like I have respect for Central US as a true heartland region of the country!

Look, just admit the truth—if you recognize the rights of other nations, then they might actually recognize yours when they're back in their own countries...

Aren't Americans just wonderful? You crush our cities and we'll honor you by making our old script official soon enough... if we had destroyed Subotica along with the Canadians, I wonder if you would have honored us by putting up Canadian and American signs in town? Of course you wouldn't...