northernheron3 said:The turnout this Saturday isn't just impressive because of those massive Bad Boys numbers—especially considering the weather we had—it’s more like a dream come true for all the groups who constantly criticize the Boys for not having enough supporters.
You can keep insisting that Washington, D.C. is some kind of disaster, but honestly, if we were still living in an era before the internet, I might actually find your arguments convincing. If you truly want to test this theory, just put in a little effort: take a prominent away match, say against Miami or Seattle, and pair it with a home game against the Boston Red Sox or Seattle. Lay them out side-by-side, season after season, and compare the visuals. You’ll be quite surprised when you realize that... It seems like there are more Bad Boys around these days than we ever saw before.Well, it seems like someone has done a thorough job of brainwashing you all, painting this overly romanticized picture of those old days when you couldn't even find a square inch of space in the North stands because they were so packed. 🤦
Back in those more nostalgic days, the North Stand wasn't even two-thirds full during that match against Chelsea FC back in 2002. I remember when we played AC Milan in 2000; there were only a few thousand people in the stadium. Think about it—that was AC Milan coming straight from what was arguably the strongest league in the world, just months after our club identity had been restored, and the team was actually performing well on the pitch. What are we even talking about here, folks? Let's stop kidding ourselves; aside from that stretch between 2005 and 2008 where the stadium was packed for the big games like derbies or European matches, everything else was pretty much average attendance.
No one is stopping you from criticizing the Bad Boys; feel free to say their songs are dull or mindless, or suggest that the parade should be held on a different street altogether. However, attacking the Bad Boys simply because of their numbers feels, at the very least, quite disrespectful.
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Here is the link to that classic LA Galaxy vs AC Milan match from 2000.
He was standing there against Chelsea FC, surrounded by nothing but North supporters. It was one of those intense moments where you feel the physical pressure of the crowd pressing in on you from every side. I remember that match vividly, too—I actually ended up with my hair stained from those flags they had hurriedly dyed right before kickoff.😁I always find myself reflecting on how reckless we were back then, much like that chaotic scene from the Hajduk 2015 era when the police let that compressed crowd break loose, only for them to surge forward and completely overwhelm the next two sections. It reminded me of how packed the stands were during that match against ZTE just a month prior.
You're absolutely right about the turnout against AC Milan being pretty thin. If my memory serves me correctly, even that match against Kyiv didn't see much of a crowd either—it just wasn't exactly a packed house at the stadium back then.
The turnout numbers can be quite telling, especially when you want to ensure the younger generation isn't being fed those old, tired fairy tales about how massive our support used to be. I tend to look at it through a more practical lens. For instance, back when we were managing to pull a crowd of around a hundred people to buy tickets for a mid-week match at Veluto, that felt significant. Even during our European runs, seeing maybe 400 people travel to London after suffering 0-3 losses shows a certain level of grit. We saw about a hundred Torce faithful make the trip to see Chelsea FC following some intense action, yet when we played a domestic cup match against Cibalia, we couldn't even get a hundred people showing up in the North stands. All of this was happening long before the narratives pushed by guys like Grgic or Stimac started making the rounds.
When you consider the uphill battle our younger players have faced, combined with everything they’ve had to navigate regarding the club's management, it feels like there isn't much left to debate. You have to hand it to them; the way they fought through those circumstances to reach this level is truly impressive. However, I think they might be overlooking just how many advantages were handed to them, which makes their current criticism and unsolicited advice feel a bit misplaced. This core group is a genuine miracle because of that, and they deserve our respect. My generation, stepping out at the tail end of the 90s and moving into the early 2000s, was actually able to dream big, and we saw matches return to being pure excitement almost overnight. After all, even back in the 90s, people were fighting just as hard to get us where we are today.
It feels like we're watching one generation of Bad Boys pass the torch to the next, seeing the young ones step up just as their fathers once did. I can only hope that, in some foreseeable future, our own local kids will finally get their chance to take the field and play.
Honestly, the hardest part is just pushing through this transitional period; it feels like it’s dragging on forever, and sometimes you truly can't see any light at the end of the tunnel.