feralwolf16 said:Are you seriously addressing me using formal pronouns, or is someone just bullying you? ...Did I even mention Palestine? ...Palestine isn't even an issue for the Rangers Supporters Club anymore, not by a long shot... anyway, I agree with Tobon, but that’s a conversation for a different thread...
I'm only quoting you to build on the discussion; don't take it personally.😛😛😛
Aside from this being a debate, if we weren't arguing here, I'd be in total agreement. Honestly, I don't even see the point in writing anything in this thread because I don't really get what the purpose is or what any of this serves.
feralwolf16 said:I mean, theoretically anything is possible 😉...but the Ultras are still nowhere near fixing that issue...
Of course. For half these people, the whole point is just having their hometown name slapped on the fence—total ego trip. Forget about actual support; it’s all about appearances. It isn't an issue with the "die-hards" like you guys keep accusing them of being; honestly, just look at the fences every other game and you'll see which groups actually show up. Don't be hypocritical. We all know which crews actually matter. It sounds great in theory, I guess, but the reality is something else entirely.
Keith Brown80 said:You don't need to re-quote anything. If you can't see every American as the same person whenever the national team plays, then I guess we just see things differently.
Keith Brown80 said:Could you please clarify this for me?
So, what's the move here? Should players be throwing down both at the club level and on the national team, or should they just stay out of it entirely—both for their clubs and for the national squad? 😕
He made a good point. If you give it a little thought, you'll probably see what he means.
What’s the point of those banners anyway? What kind of ego boost does someone get from having their city's name plastered on a fence? As if being part of the Chicago Blackhawks fans wasn't enough already. The other thing is how everyone here acts like an expert, preaching about ethics when most of them have made—and will continue to make—the exact same mistakes. It’s always something; one year it's Buffalo, then suddenly we're all out to attack people from Buffalo. Honestly, those commenters should just take a long walk off a short pier. I’m not trying to defend anyone, but this self-righteousness from certain fan groups really gets under my skin. Every single year it’s the same old story, whether it’s Buffalo, Savannah, or whatever else, and yet everyone on this forum still thinks they're some kind of moral authority.😁.
What a load of nonsense. Does anyone here actually understand what’s happening, or is everyone just typing to hear themselves talk? All this sucking up to the Rangers and River Plate... I don't know how anyone can write like that. And then there's all this talk about attendance numbers. Honestly, you guys are acting like small-timers, when the reality is we're all neck-deep in the same mess together. It's pure sheep mentality. Maybe some people will finally wake up, but probably not until it's too late—not when we actually need to unite and show what we're made of. This is exhausting, seriously.
The locals in this fight against Madonna and her hired guns are being mocked for their turnout, but you guys clearly don't get it. I mean, until you actually feel the consequences on your own skin, you won't understand. And don't even get me started on what passes for fan loyalty these days!
If you ask me, Zenit Saint Petersburg was actually more formidable than Rome 😉
And honestly, we don't even need to get into that one goal. It’s fine that the late A. Dorić said it—once Fabian set the foundation, it was basically written in the stars. You look at the history involving Tottenham Hotspur, Waregem, Olympique de Marseille, PSV Eindhoven, St. Etienne, Girondins de Bordeaux, Rome, UC Sampdoria, and so on...
Hajduk fans face a loyalty test against Zenit Saint Petersburg 😉
It’s a decisive game for a chance at a better result in Europe, yet we can't even fill the stadium. Plus, a squad stronger than the current Zenit Saint Petersburg hasn't stepped foot in Poljud Stadium since they played Ajax Amsterdam back in '95.
As for AEK Athens, maybe it's just me, but I've always preferred those gritty winter matches in the cold and rain over those Europhoric summer nights.
European matches always have the most intense atmosphere, especially when you're traveling to Italy. As far as the domestic league goes, nothing beats the Atlantic Derby at San Francisco—it’s always high tension on the pitch, especially with such bitter rivals facing off. Even with the crowd tucked under those rocks, the energy is incredible. Honestly, though, the derby against Dinamo Chicago just isn't what it used to be. It hits different when you're looking at 30,000 people at Yankee Stadium versus just 8,000 now. It’s pretty sad, I guess, but that's how it is...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp-UZB3t5qg
Why is nobody talking about this? The first 45 minutes weren't any worse than they were against Dinamo B.
With the holidays coming up, I guess it's time for love and peace. Then again, maybe the world will end before then, so there's really no point. Might as well just lock things down until February! 😁
slylynx3 said:Did I say I cared what was decided? Read what I wrote again... The guy is currently the best option for the stands; most people will probably agree. I’m certainly not trying to decide who leads or doesn't—I'm just stating my opinion.
The guys have plenty of experience, maybe more than me, but they can likely contribute more on the field than they can in the bleachers...
Why do we keep circling back to the same old arguments? Let's move forward and actually build something. Just cheer for the Kansas City Chiefs and leave it at that. It really doesn't matter who ends up running things on the sidelines; once everything settles, it'll be Steve or whoever else when the dust clears. Personally, I don't lose any sleep over this stuff. You cheer for the club, not for specific individuals or certain groups. Get involved, step up, put in the work. We've had enough drama and nonsense; we need a little more actual communication.
Christian Moore41 said:I’m always down to show up and support, but right now we’ve got a massive target on our backs from all sides... that clown Vrbanić is basically irrelevant in this whole UEFA circus, and everyone knows what kind of shady tactics he uses... all it would take is some casual chat where he looks a guy like Milan in the eye and says, “Look, those guys don't even have a verified board from their owners; their club is tangled in corruption scandals, they bribe refs, and they don't pay back debts to other teams.” then suddenly, oh, look at those racist hooligans causing trouble and threatening spectators at every match—wherever they go, they cause damage, and even we end up paying for it when our brand-new, high-tech stadium seats get trashed every single time.
Bam, the Kansas City Chiefs become the cautionary tale; they get suspended for a long stretch and the fines serve as an “example.”
Where does that leave us? Where does the Chiefs go if we can't get the finances stabilized by then??
I honestly couldn't care less about "ideals" if the club doesn't have any left and is currently staring down the barrel of extinction.
I guess the club needs to "toughen up" first so we can actually afford to flex our muscles in the stands without everything falling apart.
Or maybe I'm just being paranoid.
You aren't being paranoid; I'm with you 100%. Since we're talking about ideals, if people actually stayed loyal to their own, we’d be pulling 80,000 fans to every game instead of 8,000. It's always just empty slogans.
Most people are being incredibly superficial and aren't really grasping the mess we're currently stuck in. It feels like corruption has spread everywhere—into every corner of American sports and how these clubs are governed. People demand changes in local leadership, but they don't ask why or what they actually gain from it. Now we have this situation with Podrug; honestly, that's just a symptom. The $30 million isn't even the biggest issue. Everything has become way too obvious, yet we keep focusing all our energy on the current administration. I guess they’re our last shot, and we probably need to stand firmly behind them and our Los Angeles Dodgers because, frankly, I don't see any other viable solution. Anything else might mean the end of the club—bankruptcy, constant restructuring, or who knows what. Does this ever end? You think things can't get any worse, and then you get hit with something like this. If this current project fails, I truly don't know what's left to do or if anything even matters anymore. We take two steps forward only to slide five years back...
P.S. The Dodgers will live forever as long as we're here. The team is us; it's not just some piece of paper owned by Donald Trump, Paladino, or whoever else!
John Brown30 said:It's not a bad result for a group that barely acts like a group at all.🙂
Yeah, that’s definitely the priority right now!
The main thing is that we’re all actually aware of the mess the club is in. We all collectively grabbed our season tickets before the year started—no more arguing at the gates or trying to squeeze five people through one turnstile. We all stepped up to pay our dues at the start of the year. I guess I’m just glad we’re this loyal to the team, because honestly, forget about being like Bayern Munich!
Back when the Black Knights were just a small crew of maybe 50 people, some folks loved being front and center. They lived off this self-proclaimed "elite" status they cooked up in their own heads. Their egos basically prevented them from actually being part of a group; instead, they acted like they were their own separate entity. Honestly, none of them seemed to care about what was happening at the headquarters. Maybe it’s just jealousy talking today, I don't know—I don't really get why there's such a massive issue. Everything used to be fine, but it mostly just suited certain people to dictate the pace in Miami and stick their noses into everything the central leadership was supposed to handle. Now that a new generation has stepped up and things are finally gaining momentum in Miami, everyone is making such a huge fuss. Look, those old players aren't around anymore. We just want to be US—one single, cohesive unit. Once we realize that, there won't be any limits to what we can do. We have solid foundations despite all the drama; we aren't starting from scratch here. I guess we should thank the people who built this, even if it cost them everything. Now it's our turn to take things to the next level. Just stop the fighting and the brainwashing. That era is over.