Michael Stewart3 said:The gap between us is massive, honestly. They basically threw us a bone by getting rid of those vouchers, and we swallowed it whole like a bunch of total amateurs.
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Finally, someone actually said it. I’ve been scrolling through three days of absolute nonsense waiting for someone to speak the truth. It’s clear that the idea of fans uniting actually terrified them, so they scrapped the vouchers, and then the local ultras acted like complete idiots by celebrating it. If you had even an ounce of common sense, when they announced the cancellation of those vouchers, you should have stood up and said: Go to hell, gentlemen. We will stay united until every last one of you is gone; from this moment on, we play by our own rules.
Oh, I almost forgot to mention some news coming out of Italy: the police have actually banned the leaders of the AC Milan and Inter fan groups from standing by the goalposts to lead the chants during matches. Apparently, if they try to take charge of the cheering, they’ll face strict bans... ☕
It strikes me that very soon, beyond just the merger of the local hardcore supporter groups, we are going to need something much more significant on a global scale—a unified front for all ultras everywhere. Is there anyone left who doesn't see that there is a movement sweeping across all of Europe to dismantle the entire supporter culture? It is blindingly obvious that the system wants to break the spirit of young, defiant, and rebellious people, essentially turning them into nothing more than compliant, docile sheep.
I noticed Lidija Šunjerga leaving comments on the Black Knights' official page 😁
That explains why the energy from the Black Knights has been so lackluster lately; you all have completely lost your way and need to get out of the stands 🤣🤣
bluewolf15 said:I want to offer my full support to all the Blue Boys. I truly believe things have become incredibly difficult for you lately, and I understand why you might feel completely exhausted by it all. However, you simply must persevere; there needs to be more of you out there. I realize how easy it is to say that, especially knowing about the blacklists and the harassment you face, but based on everything I witnessed this past weekend, your only salvation lies in your numbers. Once again, please accept my immense support... stay strong.
The issue is that when you experience repression, you feel it on a deeply personal level, rather than thinking, "this is happening to me as part of the entire BBB group." When people are being pressured like this, an individual doesn't feel like it's the police or some organized syndicate versus my entire group... Instead, you are left with this overwhelming sensation of a mafia targeting you personally; you feel so suppressed and utterly powerless.
You are absolutely right; it is far too easy to say, "hang in there, guys, we need everyone, every single group."
Alright, let's look at the landscape... the Dinamo fans are definitely in, and maybe the boys in blue too. As for the Armada crowd, I'm still a bit on the fence about them. 😁
When the Black Knights lit their flares, a flare also went up in the section reserved for our families—the women, kids, seniors, and those with disabilities . It’s a simple matter of logic: the flares were coming from the group near our supporters' section, because there's no way the families were the ones lighting them. End of story.
urbanbear45 said:Springfield really seems to be handling things quite efficiently over there 🙂
I must say, I truly admire your perspective. In fact, I was just about to compose a post expressing my own growing concern that the LA Galaxy might have their hands in all of this...
I am truly exhausted by this endless bickering on this forum; it lacks any semblance of true fan culture or genuine passion. The real sense of loyalty and authenticity can be found with the Ultras from some small Midwestern town, because they don't waste their breath on these retarded message boards where, historically speaking, no one ever actually wins an argument. ☕ ...
Joshua Moore31 said:Someone above mentioned the bolougan boys. Here is a brief history of what went down with them, and frankly, we are seeing an identical pattern play out right here in the States. It is an incredible template of decline: they went from being a massive, fierce, and intimidating fan base to a mere group of 200 ultras, while their stadium atmosphere is now just filled with a "quiet majority" of casuals who can't even muster a decent vibe for ninety minutes. What we are witnessing at our home stadium is essentially a final purge of anyone deemed "unsuitable." We can complain all we want, but every move the front office makes to suppress us only serves to successfully shrink our numbers season after season. How can we expect kids under 18 to ever step foot back in this arena after they've been harassed and blacklisted late into the night following matches? Look at this link—http://www.ultras-tifo.net/news/140-...upporters.html
Organization is everything, as is unity. When Americans stand shoulder to shoulder...
I find myself in agreement; Liverpool FC might still exist without the NFL Ultras, though they would likely be relegated to some lesser, hollow dimension. However, it remains an absolute certainty to everyone that without Liverpool FC, there would be no NFL Ultras...
Paul Young5 said:I mean, what would the Kansas City Chiefs even be without the Raiders? Would they just turn into some minor league outfit?🤷 Football exists for the fans, and the fans are here for the football; it is a beautiful symbiosis at its very core... one cannot exist without the other....
The only logical response I can offer is that if the Kansas City Chiefs were to vanish, the Raiders would undoubtedly cease to exist as well. Do you honestly believe those fans would simply migrate over to support an Atlantic Ocean franchise or General Electric instead??? Absolutely not!
But tell me, are you truly so certain that the Kansas City Chiefs would disappear if the Raiders were gone? Does the legacy of this club only endure because of the Raiders?
In my view, even if the Raiders were to dissolve, the Kansas City Chiefs would continue to exist. There are far too many people who are deeply devoted to this club, and it is quite arrogant to claim that the team wouldn't exist without the Raiders.
Jonathan Lewis3 said:I don't know about you guys, but for me, the Black Knights come before Liverpool FC.
The Black Knights only exist because Liverpool FC exists, so please, keep that in mind at all times.
If Liverpool FC were to vanish tomorrow, what on earth would you or the entire Black Knights group actually do with your lives... follow volleyball, join the Hell's Angels, or just become cattle ranchers?