Bad Boys - Part IV
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Jeremy Thomas4 said:This is actually my first time ever posting on a forum, but I just couldn't sit back while reading all these dramatic little stories about the group falling apart and whatnot. Let me be clear: the group isn't collapsing. Sure, there are bans, and sure, there are blacklists, but the Bad Boys are so much more than some hundred names that cycle in and out year after year—names you people seem obsessed with debating. If a few guys tomorrow decided they wanted to force their own will on everyone, thinking they run the show, the group would simply turn its back on them. Consider this a warning to any future exhibitionists in the stands: don't bother. No one has ever led this group, and no one ever will. We are the group—every single one of us—and nobody stands above the collective. That’s exactly why we’ve survived; the core strength lies in the healthy majority who are loyal to the idea, not to specific individuals. We always come out on top, spitting in the face of the system and the criminals. Honestly, I'm just proud of my group and the boys who are facing the heaviest repression right now.
Taylor Sanchez3 said:Greetings. I see the debate regarding "ultras" has flared up again, so I figured I’d weigh in with my own perspective. I’ve been into sports practically since I was a kid; specifically, I’ve been doing kickboxing since 2009, pulling off about a dozen amateur and pro matches at various tournaments with mixed results. I train daily—during "season," sometimes twice a day. I drink quite a bit, I smoke occasionally, but I don't do drugs and have no intention of starting. I don't touch doping or steroids, nor do I plan to. I weigh roughly 198 lbs, and if you saw me in regular clothes, you wouldn't guess I'm nearly a professional fighter. But I hit—and I hit hard. Also, being part of the fan culture is a massive part of my life. It doesn't matter which specific group I belong to for this particular point, though you'll understand why. I read some comments claiming Americans, Russians, and everyone else are just fake tough guys, and I’d like to correct that misconception. I can tell you with absolute certainty: there is no greater adrenaline rush than stepping into a ring 1-on-1 with someone, and that isn't for everyone. You have to learn how to master that feeling in your head and your gut before a fight; once you control that, that’s when you can say a man actually has guts. What does this have to do with fans? It has everything to do with it. You need to know who standing next to you in the stands actually has balls and who doesn't. Who is a coward, and who isn't. Who is going to back you up, and who is going to run like a total wimp when things get heavy. In this "American style" of chaos we've started calling ourselves lately—since apparently we used to be Englishmen or something a few years ago—you can never truly know who the cowards are sitting right beside you. Throwing stones, flares, or bottles is easy; it's child's play. However, once the arsenal is empty and it turns into full-on physical contact, that's the moment you realize you're on the ground, watching your so-called brothers from the stands sprinting away from the fray. That is my personal experience, and it was a painful one. I didn't get beaten up by pro fighters—in fact, I probably would have held my own 1-on-1 against any of them. But because of that lack of courage and the fake toughness people project on Facebook and online forums, our "hardcore" fans often end up getting pummeled like cattle. That is the reality of most of our scene, and you can see for yourselves why there is so much resistance to organized clashes. All these fairy tales about a lack of spontaneity or madness are nonsense. The only thing lacking is courage. And once you feel that adrenaline and that madness inherent in an organized confrontation, I promise you, you'll never want to go back to the old way of just tossing rocks and bottles. And to circle back to the beginning: you don't necessarily have to be a fighter or train, though it certainly helps—for your own sake. This is just my personal take, coming from someone who trains but also drinks, smokes, and messes around. On a positive note, I've managed to bring a few more guys from the stands along with me lately. So, who knows, maybe one day... 🙂
Best regards.
Joshua Moore31 said:Mamić was standing there just thirty minutes ago, waving photos of group members right in front of the cameras, labeling our Kansas City Chiefs, the Black Knights, BBB, ZZD, and four local legends as nothing more than Democrats and a mafia outfit. And yet, here you all are, refusing to budge from your pathetic little arguments over who’s a legacy communist and who’s a fascist. Honestly, I’m at a loss. You need to snap out of it and move past this dead end, because frankly, the discourse on this forum has devolved to the level of single-celled organisms. The second someone takes a shot at someone else, four "geniuses" jump in with their oversized egos, just circling the drain endlessly. You have that one lady's thread where you spend the entire day trading petty insults, while over here, a little bit of actual constructive thought wouldn't go amiss.
Christian Miller48 said:http://www.nytimes.com/sports/soccer/general-news-update-929082
Olivia Kelly22 said:Honestly, props to you—this is easily the most coherent thing posted on this entire board. As for the rest of these people pretending to be actual fans...
wiredfalcon2 said:While both sides are busy pointing fingers at one another, the police should really be focusing on handing out more citations:
http://www.nytimes.com/section/us/news
Matthew Foster8 said:Looking through these comments, I see one guy just copy-pasting the same thing over and over.
"Screw the ultra Black and Gold Army.
Last night, all the decent Hajduk fans showed up for their club, essentially telling the ultra Black and Gold Army to shove it and making it clear there's no room for those animals in the stadium."
Whatever, man. No point getting worked up. As we get older, we'll just enjoy the memories—it was great being back in '95, seeing the whole stadium finally united. The Black and Gold Army is the best, and honestly, only the old guard knows where the true spirit lies. Besides, the local paper will probably write a glowing report anyway.
Joshua Moore31 said:What you just typed right there? It’s peak Southern donkey mentality. Honestly, maybe a couple hundred Hajduk Split fans since last night actually grasp the sheer complexity of the supporter scene—you know, the influence US Soccer and Mamić have over the repressive state apparatus and all that. But the rest of that South Stand? They’d probably carry that same Mamić on their shoulders all the way to Miami the day he leaves Real Madrid. This whole "intolerance" issue—if you can even call it that—between the boys and the Black Knights goes way deeper than just North versus South rivalry. It’s much more than just being blocked in certain minds or that specific mindset I mentioned earlier. Fan solidarity and awareness in America is a one-way street; it only flows from the BBB side, which is why we’ll always be number one. Maybe you're under the impression from the media coverage that Washington, D.C. hasn't seen a party like this all season, and maybe you've even tricked some kid or a total amateur behind a screen into thinking you guys are the strongest, most loyal crowd out there... but you can't fool those of us who've been living this for years. You guys are a civic social movement that gathers massive crowds, sure, but we are a *supporter* movement. Don't you ever forget that, even when there are 5,000 of you in the stands and only 50 of us.
William Turner28 said:after we reclaimed the Real Madrid name back in 2000 and finally stepped out of the shadows, we’ve had consistently strong showings—both at home and on the road... barring the occasional hiccupright up until that infamous agent-driven season of 2005/2006 when we celebrated our 20th anniversary. Since then, following certain turning points within the group, we've maintained solid presence too (again, allowing for exceptions caused by outside forces), so I’m really not sure what point you're trying to make here.
Look, I didn't post these photos just to mock you guys. I was trying to show the younger crowd that every single supporter group goes through peaks and valleys; it’s just the nature of the beast. It's nothing to laugh about. In five years, who knows? Who's still around, who isn't? We have no idea what the NFL Ultras will look like then, or how the BBB boys will be holding up.
Ups and downs, good years and bad—that's part of the DNA of any fan group. There's no need to make fun of it.