Posts by Michael Ramos4

Sam Ramirez81 said:rustydrifter10I just noticed the warning about stopping posts here, but the moderator asked me for a link, so I’m just replying to her. 🙂

Yeah, I’m not really following this either. I don't have the links to the deleted posts, but I already mentioned some of them at the very beginning of this thread.Lenka's I still feel some regret, though honestly, I can't quite wrap my head around why. If it were just about the deletion itself, I could live with it. But then I see what else was left standing on this thread, and I just don't get it. It makes zero sense to me how those posts—which look like straight-up trolling to me—are considered less harmful to the discussion than the ones that got wiped. If you were actually asking me for links to prove what I mean by those kinds of posts, well, here they are. I think there have been plenty of good examples shared on this forum already, but here’s one from my side.

People are talking about Seher. In this show, she’s portrayed as this cunning, pretty morally flexible type who cares about nothing but money. She’ll use any scheme or lie necessary to get what she wants or just to wiggle out of a tight spot. Honestly, Seher starts lying the second she opens her mouth—she only tells the truth when it actually suits her. Regarding that whole "I don't steal" thing, I can't help but think about that time with Feriha's ring, where she tried to sell the real one on the black market and ended up getting stuck with a fake returned to her instead.

So, it's finally being admitted that Seher actually lied, but then they go and misquote it, claiming she only lied twice during the series.
Feriha told Cans that she never actually stole her identity, but she didn't say it in a way that was condescending or passive-aggressive either. She never once hinted that she thinks she’s a better or more worthy person than Cans, or that she somehow deserves everything Cans has.

People are trying to insinuate that Feriha never actually did anything for anyone, but that’s just not true. The show showed so many instances where she stepped up for others—I'm thinking specifically about that time she snuck out of the house just to be there for her friend who had an abortion. Throughout the entire series, Feriha was always portrayed as someone who truly cares about people, weighing who deserves her support and who doesn't, but above all, she's incredibly devoted to her family and her friends.

Aside from the fact that people are miscounting and saying Seher only lied twice during the series, they’re also totally wrong when they claim her lies didn't actually hurt anyone. There were definitely victims here. You have Mehmet, whom she lied to about being pregnant just to marry him, and then later lied about sabotaging the pregnancy. Then there's Feriha, who was falsely accused by her of pushing her down the stairs and causing a miscarriage.

I can't stop thinking about that time Seher tried to sell Feriha's ring on the black market and ended up getting swindled with a cheap knockoff.

In the show, they made it clear that the whole family was devastated by the loss of the child, especially Mehmet (the father). He drank so much he couldn't even stand up straight—he actually tripped on a broken bottle and ended up in the hospital, so clearly, everyone was physically affected by this. It’s also very obvious how Seher smiles right before she throws herself down the stairs and tries to pin it on Feriha. From what I saw, she threw herself down on purpose, so I don't see any basis for claiming she just got scared and lost her balance.
That last sentence—so we’ve actually reached the point where the number of Seher's lies might actually climb higher than two.

1. It shows that Feriha lied specifically because she was terrified and deeply ashamed in front of everyone.
2. This bit about "that jealous uncle really stoked the fire" actually happened in the series, but that's a description of the moment when Sehi's ex-boyfriend set her house on fire knowing she and Mehmet were inside—basically trying to burn them alive. So, I just wanted to ask: isn't trivializing felonies against the rules of this forum? That last sentence about the fireworks refers to the exact same incident.

Basically, Feriha is being described as a character who is the complete opposite of how she’s portrayed in the show. The same goes for Seher, except we went from "Seher, who never lies" to "Seher, who told 2-3 lies that didn't hurt anyone." For those of you who actually clicked the links, notice that all the posts are from the same date. You can't really conclude that the descriptions of Seher are contradictory just because opinions shifted as the show progressed. And again, I'll say it: it doesn't bother me that these types of posts stayed up, but I just don't get why they were judged as better or more relevant to the series than the ones that got deleted.

It looks like you missed the point... because nobody asked you to go dissecting my posts from some other thread on the forum.

And now what? Everything you wrote is just your own take on Seher... which is fine. So why does my take on Seher bother you so much? You're digging through my old posts where I talk about her... what does that have to do with this specific topic? Since you went through all that trouble, why didn't you just dump everything I ever said about her here for analysis? Instead, you’re just cherry-picking random sentences to nitpick. The whole comment tells a way bigger story than those tiny snippets you pulled out.

The way I see it, you don't need to worry about Seher... feel however you want about her, it's your business. I've written a ton about her... if you actually bothered to read my posts in order, you'd see I don't just focus on Seher or whether anyone else lied besides Feriha... I shared my opinion on whether Sehi was lying too... you just have to read it. All my posts stay on topic, and they say what they say. Why should I have to sit here and explain stuff I've already laid out? From Feriha all the way down to you side characters who are all just gross to me.

I write about the show and the characters based on how I see them... everyone sees things differently, including me.
Seriously though... what else am I supposed to do? Defend every single word and sentence I write? It's funny how you guys have all this energy to hunt through my comments, yet zero interest in actually contributing to the main topic. Hardly anyone even writes on the main thread anymore... everyone just flocks here to the forum to perform surgery on my posts.🤣..what next, you want my home address, phone number, and Social Security number?😁 ☕

northernstag7 said:Feriha, stop twisting the facts! I would personally tell Michael Ramos4 to stop distorting the truth because you do it in almost every single other post. Isn't that just like Feriha (exactly how you describe her), right?
You claim you don't see Feriha showing any remorse, yet it is presented loud and clear to all of us in the series (Dana Nelson even showed it to us again, though we've all seen it before). When I read your post claiming she isn't repenting, I actually see Feriha in you—specifically the version from season one who constantly lies—because your post isn't based on an opinion, but on a blatant distortion of what was actually seen (the facts). It makes me wonder: what is the difference between the two of you that you simply cannot grasp or comprehend regarding her lies, when you are doing the exact same thing?!
Furthermore, regarding what you wrote on the main thread about the girl Aynur (Feriha's roommate at the dorm):

We finally have another example of a beautiful and brilliant student... Aynur, who shockingly has no clue who the prince or the big shot on campus is, and on top of that, she is honest and smart, and lovely.

I would love to understand how you formed such a strong opinion based on a mere ten sentences, seven of which were just questions directed at Feriha. How is it possible that in the very moment we met this girl, you characterized her so boldly, yet by episode 50, you failed to see a single instance of positive behavior from Feriha?
I forgot to mention that you also neglected to characterize this same Aynur as being a liar, given that eleven of her sentences were falsehoods (since Feriha is at the university). How did you miss that? Oh, right—I forgot, you can probably attribute that solely to Feriha, while everyone else remains perfectly intelligent and honest!!!

Look, from her answers and how she talks to Fer... that sharp, open gaze... her body language... her whole vibe... I can feel it... but that doesn't mean I've got her figured out. Maybe she'll let me down or betray me later. Right now, I'm digging her, but I'll see about the future. She just got here from Azerbaijan..

I already said it: I don't see Fer as a positive person. I don't know what part of that isn't clear. Fer could have actually won me over if she hadn't lied and schemed so much, dragging other people into her web of lies, or how she hurt my favorite guy, Emir. She could have stopped all this ages ago just by being honest and apologizing to everyone she deceived... but she didn't. So, what am I supposed to do?

That's just how it is. Feriha just lies, acts wild, keeps secrets, and gets aggressive with Emir. She’s not on good terms with anyone. That’s how I see her, and that's the impression she leaves on me. I like good, sweet people—honest, positive folks who spread good vibes, people who are smiling, open, easy to trust, funny, and so on... because that's what works for me. That's how I watch characters and experience them.

And Feriha has none of that. She is the exact opposite of everything I like... I just don't like her behavior, what she does, or the way she goes about it.

I don't see the point in constantly repeating why I don't like Feriha.
I don't like her. Period. Do I *have* to like Feriha?

At the end of the day, what are we even doing here? This isn't a debate about the show itself; we're talking about me and what I think. Nobody can talk me into seeing it differently, so what's even the point of this whole thread?

As if I'm making stuff up or lying about the lead character... give me a break! And yeah, so what if I like Aynur, Aysun, Lara, Unal, or Tulin? What if Seher's brain cells crack me up? What if I don't like Corey or if Gulsum is dear to me? You get the idea. OMG.

Jerry Campbell7 said:I’ve been watching this show, but honestly, I’m still not buying Feriha's "regret"!
She did tear up a little when she ran into Reese and Mehmet at the entrance, sure—but that’s about it!
To me, she hasn't actually shown any real remorse for all the chaos her lies caused Emir and everyone else involved!
"Please forgive me! I was wrong! I made mistakes I wasn't even aware of, and maybe I hurt you all..." blah, blah, blah.
That whole performance just didn't touch my heart one bit. I mean, what's the issue here?!
I just don't trust her—not her actions, and certainly not her words!

Yeah... honestly, I think that pretty much answers everything.

I don't believe a single word out of Feriha's mouth. No matter what she says, I'm not buying it, because it's been proven time and again that she lies and hides the truth. To me, she's a pathological liar. She hasn't convinced me or shown any actual regret, nor does she seem ashamed, because she just keeps making the exact same mistakes. That isn't "repentance" to me—it's nothing. Feriha says, "I'm sorry, I'm ashamed, I'll stand by you through everything," but then the very next chance she gets, she does the opposite. She judges Emir, she lashes out at him, she turns her back, she runs away... so her words mean absolutely nothing. It's one thing to talk the talk, but it's another thing entirely to walk the walk and prove it with your actions.

I have every right to judge her for who she really is, and that's exactly what I'm doing. If someone thinks I'm wrong, that's their problem, not mine. I don't trust Feriha. Generally speaking, I can't stand people like that in real life either—especially those who can't even look you in the eye when they speak, staring at the floor or looking away instead of standing behind their words. I hate two-faced people I can't rely on, and that is my prerogative.
Why on earth would I believe Feriha? Just because most people do? If that puts me in the minority, so be it. Nobody is responsible for that. It's my choice and my stance. I decide who I trust, who I love, and who I respect. My opinion doesn't hurt anyone—not Feriha, and certainly not the majority.

So yeah, Jerry asked a good question: what's the actual problem here?

goldenfalcon7 said:Michael Ramos4, sorry, but my photos and... Those GIFs weren't even about you. I didn't quote you in my post, nor did I end up quoting anyone at all. I know exactly why I wrote it the way I did, and there's a reason I used that controversial picture and that GIF, but trust me—it had absolutely nothing to do with you. 😉

goldenfalcon7 said:I only quoted this specific part because we've already seen the rest of what was posted and people have complained about it plenty of times. Whatever, I honestly don't even bother paying attention to her (Michael Ramos) or the nonsense she makes up anymore.

But something else is bothering me. The moderator deleted a post where I was quoting another user who was commenting on what happened in tonight's episode (specifically the main character's outfit). I was just adding to the conversation about what we saw. A third user even asked for pictures of what was shown, but once she realized the posts were being wiped, she had to 🙂 go back and edit her own post because she couldn't figure out what she was allowed to say or who she could quote anymore.😕

If the moderator is going to go around deleting things, why isn't she being careful about what she removes so she doesn't confuse everyone else? People might actually start thinking they didn't see what they saw (or that the moderator doesn't want them to see it 😁).

Looking at her "blue" warnings, I've pulled out a few things that I'm apparently not allowed to do—things I thought were fine, but apparently aren't 😢:

1. - I'm not allowed to comment on what other users write (even though I've always exclusively commented on their thoughts about the show before). 😕

2. and here she says to comment on what we saw, yet when we do, she deletes our posts. 😕

Could someone besides her finally tell us exactly what we can and cannot write? Her warnings have left us totally confused (at least I am 😕 🙂).

In the end, I just explained it to myself like this: write only what you saw, and when you do, expect to be deleted. It seems like it's better to write about things you *didn't* see, because practice shows you won't get deleted then. 😳 I might have overcomplicated that last sentence, but then again, that's exactly what the moderator does with her warnings 😳.

goldenfalcon7 said:If we’re really going to split hairs here, he didn't (literally) say: Feriha, don't you dare execute that. Just facts. He already said it: Feriha, don't you dare carry that out. The situation. I guess I could post a picture or a GIF to this thread if it’s really that much of a big deal. 😁

Bea? I don't even know if she's even there. 🤷Jay. 🙏

Yeah, I guess they didn't actually answer me. 🙂I'm still trying to figure out what exactly was so controversial about my post, where I just shared exactly what I saw: Emir looks like a total mess. His shirt is half-tucked into his pants and sticking out from under that half-raised sweater. I guess he just couldn't be bothered. That’s basically how I wrote it. Maybe the word order was a bit off, but I was just commenting on what I actually saw. Can someone tell me what exactly was controversial here? I'd rather know so I don't end up posting more nonsense about the main characters in other threads. 😁.

I don't care about Michael Ramos4; I only care about this and how it affects me and my post.

By the way, it was also written that it was Feriha. She looks totally neglected—hair like tangled noodles and bloodshot eyes... And that wasn't even deleted. I guess. 😕🤷

Nathan Turner3It’s not about being in a rush... I’ll make things right with everyone eventually.

Looking at these posts, it’s pretty obvious everything is aimed right at me... even though goldenfalcon7 is out here claiming her post had nothing to do with me. If it's not about me, then who exactly is she talking about?
Look, I already said I’d apologize... provided she wasn't actually aiming those shots at me and her whole post and those GIFs weren't meant to be about me.

That's just not true. If you look at goldenfalcon7's other post, it's obvious she spends way more time dealing with me than just focusing on Holly. Honestly, most of the people posting on this thread are pretty much obsessed with me anyway.

It all kicked off because of my post in that thread where they flagged my comment as trolling and making stuff up—even though I proved I was just repeating exactly what happened in the show (that controversial GIF). It’s the exact same vibe as this topic right here, where most of the discussion has basically turned into everyone just picking on me as a user.

Who am I even supposed to talk to about this? This is the second time I’ve been dragged through the mud and targeted over the PZK. And honestly? Not a single person has reached out to apologize—not one forum member, not even a moderator. Nothing.

Do you honestly think I have any grounds to apologize to anyone?

I’m honestly wondering where people get the right to debate me like this... my opinion on the show, my perspective, my own personal take... all on this specific thread. Is this even allowed? Is it actually normal practice here on this forum?

And all this drama just because someone doesn't like my take on a character or how this show is going. Look, I’m not out here on an island by myself—my opinion is shared. If you have a massive problem with someone else's perspective on a topic, honestly, why do you even care? We're all allowed the same thing here: to watch a show and call it like we see it, based on our own vibes and point of view. What am I supposed to be, some kind of liar? I’m just saying Feriha is a manipulator and she’s aggressive. I don't get the attitude. That's just how I see her. Someone else can look at the exact same person and see a sweetheart, a total angel, or a girl with a heart of gold who loves without limits. To each their own.
What kind of scenario am I supposed to be making up about a plot point that didn't even happen in the show? What did I invent? Whatever happens in a series, regardless of the situation, I’m just sharing my thoughts and how it hit me personally... that's it.

And don't even get me started on all the nasty garbage and total nonsense Dana Nelson wrote about me... claiming I'm promoting hate speech or supporting violence against women. That is straight-up sick. To go after a random person on a forum you don't even know... and then her little fan club jumps in to back her up. Honestly, I doubt you even see this kind of stuff in the moderation queues for other soap operas. It's unbelievable that you let one user talk about another like that, especially on a thread that probably has tons of people reading it. On a thread about a soap opera, no less. It's awful. In my opinion, this whole thing is an embarrassment to Forum hr. It drags down the reputation of the entire site and its whole purpose, not to mention the users and you moderators too.

I don't see what there is to understand here.

goldenfalcon7 said:That is exactly what people here are complaining about—the constant whining plus the deletion of posts that don't even insult anyone and just discuss things actually shown in the series. ☕

You told me directly on the thread that you would issue a public apology if the person who requested that controversial gif and image spoke up. Well, moderator Adam stepped in (so thanks to him), but I haven't seen your apology yet. So much for decent forum etiquette. It's awful.

Anyway, let's stop escalating the debate because there's really no point—let the admins handle this whole soap opera mess, and we'll just wait things out in peace. ☕

Dana Nelson said:This is clean. just trolling.

Emir didn't tell her to stop twisting the truth. She goes up to him like, "What if things had gone the other way?" And he just snaps, "Don't you dare, Feriha..." But she keeps pushing, and that was it—he finally hit his limit and lost it on her.

Basically, I don't recall Emir ever telling Feriha that she was twisting the facts.

Here’s the original conversation in English. I honestly don't get this whole thing—making up fake plots and dialogue like it actually happened. 😕😕😕🤷🤷🤷

Emir : Feriha : Don't you even think about continuing this.
Feriha: Why? Just because you’re a guy and I’m a woman?
Emir : Feriha : Get out of my way!
Feriha: What if we just swapped everyone's roles? Just to watch you suffer...
Emir : Feriha : Don't you even think about it!
Feriha: If I could just spend one single night with Mr. Levent...
Emir: Enough!!!!!

I think it’s pretty obvious from these posts who’s lying and just making stuff up. It’s glaringly clear.

Michael Ramos4 The user said:Isn't it blindingly obvious from these posts that they were aimed right at me? I mean, come on. You even say in another thread that you don't pay attention to anything I write or that I just make stuff up. Give me a break.So why am I even bothering you? Why do you feel the need to drag me into this, write about me, and start throwing shade?🤷 BTW..it’s totally against the forum rules to go after a fellow member like they’re some stranger you actually know.. No member should ever be the subject of discussion on this forum. Period.

What are you even trying to build here with all this tattling, complaining, and trying to "prove" I'm making things up just because you don't like my takes? And we're talking about fictional characters and plots, for crying out loud..just random stuff.

If I don't like Feriha and think she's a manipulative, calculating liar from the very first episode..don't I have the right to think that? What are you trying to prove—that I'm lying or that I'm wrong?
Look, sorry, but I think exactly what I think, just like you think the exact opposite.
It’s honestly tasteless to accuse someone of lying or inventing things just because they have an opinion on a show. Opinions differ, and this one is mine... along with everything else.

And this post alone shows there's zero need for a public apology..because I'm right when I say you're obsessed with me and my writing, and that this was directed at exactly who... m e . at River. So much for "civilized" communication.

Dana Nelson said:Let’s not pretend this is just about people being unable to handle different opinions.

Both Jerry Campbell7 and Dana Booth26 are in the minority here on the forum—I don't see anyone complaining about them, even if hardly anyone actually agrees with what they say.

River can share whatever opinion she wants, but the moderators need to let others respond to her, rather than just nuking posts simply because River doesn't like them.

Now, Adam M. just went off claiming my bio was reported, but nobody else could have possibly flagged it—it had to be River acting on her own personal vendetta, especially since there were at least seven posts supporting mine.

And you actually deleted that exact post—the one that another moderator had already publicly cleared.

Bottom line? You aren't moderating this thread objectively.

I’d like to ask the moderators to make all the posts I've reported public on the PZK for review. Honestly, since joining this forum, I haven't reported a single thing until now.

And I have never seen communication like this on a forum before... it's honestly bottom-of-the-barrel. It's terrifying. What's the actual goal or motivation behind attacking me? That's what I want to know—how a single sentence or word from mine turns into this massive uproar where everyone starts mudslinging and throwing out ridiculous accusations.
That's just crazy.

Seriously, what is this thread even about? What's so controversial? Me, Warren Buffett, the Secretary, the moderators, Americans, or even someone's grandma.
I honestly can't believe what I'm reading. I don't know about the other users or the lurkers, but personally... I don't know whether to laugh or cry. This whole situation is as pathetic as it is hilarious.

In my opinion, with all due respect to them, the moderators are letting way too much slide.

wanderingheron5 if you aren't even watching the show regularly, how can you call what I'm writing "provocative"? I’m posting this because the female lead is straight-up offensive to me. If everyone else thinks she's some cute little victim, fine, but she isn't to me. Period. I write things exactly how I see them—including this whole plot that's built entirely on lies and secrets. If people are okay with that, cool, but I'm not. That's just my personal stance on lying and the mess it creates. It's the same with other topics; I don't stand for low-life behavior or toxic traits. I simply hate it when people cross the line of what's acceptable. Look, sure, you can justify tiny white lies that don't hurt anyone—I'll even do that myself—but once someone crosses the line of basic humanity toward another person? I don't excuse it, I don't support it, and I find it disgusting. It's the same in real life as it is with fictional characters. It doesn't matter that it's just a show; personally, I wouldn't want Taylor Swift anywhere near me. I'm commenting on her view of marriage based on my own views of the institution of marriage itself, and I have every right to say Taylor isn't cut out for it. Honestly, I'd send her back to preschool to learn some basic manners. And calling this trolling? Give me a break. This is just what I think about Taylor. Sorry, but I'm allowed to have an opinion. I actually like certain female leads from American shows—starting with Elizabeth, then Asian characters, Jasmine, and a few others I've watched, including the main girl from Mercy... I forgot her name. So, yeah. People can take issue with my writing style or how I express myself all they want, but the point remains the same: my comments say exactly what I think. Call it whatever you want

driftingmarlin4 said:Michael Ramos4, I guess it’s just kind of wild how you spend like 90% of your posts totally trolling way past the limit. It doesn't really feel like you're sharing an opinion, more like you're recounting stuff that didn't actually happen... or maybe it just happened in your head? 🤷 And then when the other regulars (you know, the few who haven't put you on ignore yet) point out that you should probably stop, you somehow manage to keep trolling while playing the victim, like, "Oh, don't mind me, poor me... I'm just... expressing myself." I mean, doesn't that get old? 🤷

You were warned about this stuff, you got a strike (and eventually a ban), and yet, I guess, you still don't seem to get why your posts are such a problem? Honestly, honey, I'm almost at a loss for words here. 🤷

For everyone else who is still enjoying the show (and the debates), like Nathan Turner3 mentioned—the thread opens up tomorrow morning and it’s going to be strictly moderated.

Anyway, hope you all have a lovely evening. 😉

I am not a victim and I am not trolling... everything I say is right there in my comments and here on the FBI forums... I don't see a problem. I have my own opinions and I'm not changing them... not on this thread, and not on any other threads I've been part of.

I honestly don't get the issue... I have plenty of people who agree with me or think similarly, and they support my views, which you can clearly see from the posts both here and on the FBI boards... so where's the problem? I can fix my typos... but I can't change my opinion... because then I'd be writing things I don't actually believe. I think I've posted enough to show how I think, and there are others out there who feel the same way. I'm not the only one on this thread who doesn't share the majority view.
I enjoy the show too and love commenting on it... if someone doesn't like my take or how I see the series... that's not my problem... and it's not my problem if people get tired of calling me a troll. If my writing is the issue... fine, I won't write. Unless the rules say only people who agree can post on this topic.
I don't know what else to say... we didn't all agree on other threads either regarding what we saw in shows or our opinions... and nobody called me a troll then... I held the same kind of stance then as I do now... about certain characters... some I liked, some I hated... just like with any soap opera. I haven't changed in the last year.

Gerald Hill2 said:Michael Ramos4, you and I both know the issue isn't about what I think or don't think, or even what you think or don't think.

You mentioned she said the exact opposite of what she actually said—that men are just like they are in the movies, when in reality, she said men aren't like they are in the movies.

But honestly, that’s just one example, I guess.
Whenever I read stuff like this, I just think—oh, they portrayed this completely differently than how it's written—but I can't always remember specifically... though this one came to mind...

And I suppose a smart person learns about life from books, from movies, and from experience itself, whether it's through someone else's mistakes or their own successes.

Exactly. And honestly, you can't say that about Disney either. Her mom basically fed her nothing but fairy tales, and she grew up binge-watching those cheesy movies about billionaire playboys falling for girl-next-door types. She’s got zero real-world experience. She hasn't learned a single thing from her own screw-ups or anyone else's, yet she's an absolute pro at lying.

Gerald Hill2 said:Michael Ramos4, I actually said you've been at least once (meaning one or more times) banned, so that isn't an accurate quote. 😁

As for how you interpret sentences, I guess I can agree with you there. Everyone perceives things differently, I suppose.
It's just that you seem to be describing the opposite of what actually happened, rather than just sharing your own perspective.

Because there’s a big difference between saying—I think this sentence meant this (or that's just how I felt about it)—versus claiming that, say, Scarlett Johansson says men are just like movie characters and then mocking her for it, when in reality she was telling Grace that men aren't actually like they are in movies; they can act that way even when they don't want to.
And stuff like that.
That's usually considered trolling.

The same goes for my posts or anyone else's when we use irony, like—just using myself as an example so nobody gets offended—everyone would be absolutely perfect if FER hadn't lied, or how Dawn is such a wonderful creature, or Jane is basically an intergalactic symbol of peace and logic. 😁

So what's the big deal? If Disney forms her opinion on guys based on movies, what am I supposed to think of her? She hasn't left her basement; she hasn't met a single guy up close besides her dad and brother. Where is she getting the idea that men act that way even when they don't want to? It’s not from life experience. It's just from the movies she watched, which she admitted multiple times. Movies aren't real life. You can't take a movie and use it to judge actual people in the real world. It's the exact opposite—we use our own life experience to make sense of a show.😁..so the crap Disney spewed doesn't hold water because we know that's not a rule and doesn't apply to all men.

You have your take on it... fine, write your conclusion. I don't care what anyone thinks or writes; it doesn't change my view of the story. But making fun of Disney? She’s a character in a show, not some random person on a forum. You're allowed to say bad things about a character while other characters are being trashed, right? I can poke fun at side characters, but I can definitely take shots at the lead if there's a reason to. Isn't that how it works?

Gerald Hill2 said:I don't think we should jump straight into conspiracy theories.
Just like moderators don't vote against a topic, it’s unlikely they’re playing favorites. It seems improbable that they'd protect anyone—especially Michael Ramos4, who probably gives them more work through her posts than the average user does. 😁

Personally, I'm not in favor of banning people.
The internet should be a free space, and it's up to the individual to not abuse that freedom or use it for something nasty.
Even when that happens, whether it's intentional or just an accident, I still wouldn't support a ban. That really should be the absolute last resort, reserved for truly extreme behavior after everything else has been exhausted.

I joined the discussion later, after episode 30, and since then, I've seen Michael Ramos4 go gray (banned) for three days at least once. Even if some people think otherwise, she has been penalized. I won't get into the specifics of how or why, because I don't follow that closely, but I did see her status change.

And even though I personally disagree with her views, and I truly believe she trolls on purpose (it's hard to imagine missing the plot that many times and writing the exact opposite of what happened by pure accident 😁), she does it very smartly and with style.
She ignites discussions. Sometimes that fire warms things up, and sometimes it’s the kind of fire that destroys everything in its path.
But she does it so calmly and cleverly, balancing brilliantly right on the edge of what's punishable, while we all get worked up, react emotionally, and end up crossing that line ourselves. 😳
So, maybe there are more warnings issued to those who understand FedEx and try to defend it, making it look like the mods are protecting Michael Ramos4, but I doubt that's the case (there's a better chance we all win the Powerball jackpot along with her). 😁

Correction on that inaccurate claim... she was banned twice in one week and got x number of warnings and points.😁

Why do you think I'm doing this on purpose? What makes you think that? I've always said the same thing... I haven't changed my mind... out of all the posts I've written... not a single one... not even two sentences were meant to troll. I'm constantly in these threads... which means I didn't just barge in with some agenda. On other topics where I've posted, I've had opponents and people who disagree with me, but also people who think like I do... and I've never once burst into a thread just to stir the pot. That isn't my style or my level. I never go behind anyone's back, even in this digital space, because there are real people behind these usernames—people I genuinely care about and love across all the forums I participate in. I'm calm because I have nothing to hide and nothing to fear. I always stand by what I write. Honestly, it's pointless to have to justify my thoughts and writings just because someone thinks I'm trolling. I've never experienced this on any other thread, where someone calls me out and labels me a troll, and frankly, I don't even get the concept. My two and a half thousand posts speak for themselves, so there's no need to defend myself. If I happen to think like a few others—who might be fewer in number, but they exist—who cares? Who does it hurt or threaten? Anyone can see what I wrote and where. Seriously... if I were trolling, would I really need to recount half a series and write this much text in the comments?🙄..you guys are all talking about trolling and me.

btw...the plot in this show...the scenes and the subtitles showing what characters said...it’s not just that. There’s something else there...something in between...that everyone interprets and experiences differently. It's reading between the lines. Nothing is ever exactly how it looks or what we see...not in a series, and definitely not in real life. You can analyze everything and find answers... right? It’s not like we know everything instantly. Same goes for the show... everyone has their own take and vision. If you think the plot missed the mark... fine... I missed it... who cares? But I can also have an opinion that someone else missed the point. Who gets to be right? What's the truth? Who's wrong? Nobody and everybody. Everyone is right in their own way. Why complicate things or judge people? What's even the point?

I’d also add that the moderator's signature Nathan Turner3 is phenomenal... too bad it's in fine print.

Nicole Palmer4 said:I agree with everything that’s been said here.
I’ll just add that the very same troll told me my conclusion was stupid and that I lacked manners; then, their post vanished at light speed. As for whether they were actually penalized, I have no idea.

Later, I made a post containing two sentences of pure irony and ended up getting a red card—nothing more, nothing less—for "trolling." 😲
The important thing is that this individual, who trolls all day every single day, hasn't received a single penalty for it—at least, I haven't seen one. Why? I don't know, and frankly, I'm curious.

Same goes for me... so feel free to call me Michael Ramos4... what troll?

And your little conclusion didn't even address the topic or the people involved... it was a direct hit on me personally. Your big takeaway was basically..."Now I know you aren't actually saying what you think, you're just baiting anyone who disagrees"...where did you get off making that assumption? And honestly, getting personal and acting like you can read my mind... what are you, a psychic? All while we're talking about a soap opera thread.

My post gets nuked, but your condescending comment is still sitting there. Hey mods, why don't you just paste it right here so everyone can see exactly why I was silenced.

What even is this "trolling" nonsense? How can you guys claim someone's trolling when you don't have a shred of actual proof? I don't know a single troll in this thread... since when does having an opinion that differs from yours count as trolling? I guess I missed that memo.

Raymond Gray2 said:You have a point there. But let's be real: the drama started because of you—mostly because you're constantly bashing Disney. It's not just your interpretation; you're saying things that aren't even true, and that's what's triggering people. Plenty of us don't like Disney either, but we don't make it as irritating as you do. To you, Disney is basically the worst character ever written. That's how you portray her. It bugs me too, but I stay quiet just to keep the peace around here.

Because of me? Seriously? Why? Because I'm being negative about FedEx? That's just what I think. Is there some rule about how much "negativity" is allowed? This is how I see things. You see them differently, so you get pissed at me. Where's the logic in that? Is there some official proof somewhere saying FedEx is a saint? There isn't. I can think whatever I want about her based on the impression she leaves on me. You can think whatever you want and write it down, too. Why shouldn't I have the same rights as everyone else? These aren't provocations; it's my opinion. If I'm blunt and that's how my brain works, do I really need to apologize to anyone? What I write are my life views from my own perspective regarding all the characters. I mostly watch for Adam and Leo, who I actually like—they remind me of the good people I know in real life, though those types are pretty rare. That's it. I don't find FedEx interesting at all. Her looks, her attitude, what she does—none of it fascinates me. I don't like her. And I don't see what that has to do with someone having a different opinion. Why should anyone get mad at how I think? Everyone has their own take, and I honestly don't see a problem with it, nor do I feel the need to sugarcoat anything. I'm being honest, and I hope others are too. We're all different, clearly. What am I supposed to do? I don't fit into a box and I'm not a follower. I draw my own conclusions and I have my own stance on everything. Whether I'm talking about something major in life or any other topic, I'm going to be myself. Just like everyone else.

I guess I’ll jump into this drama too... since apparently, I'm being called out and people are starting a whole debate about my takes on this thread. Look, everyone has a right to their own opinion, right? And if having an opinion counts as trolling, then we're all just trolling each other at this point.
I should be allowed to have my own perspective just like anyone else. I don't need to follow the crowd or agree with the majority; I've got my own views.
That’s literally what a forum is for. Different people sharing different thoughts on every single thread. It would be insane if everyone thought exactly the same way—we’d be living in some weird echo chamber.
And if anyone thinks I’m getting special treatment from the mods, they can go check my warning history and points. Trust me, there isn't a moderator alive who hasn't handed me a "gift" in the form of a penalty. So much for being "protected."

Nobody has the right to come for me just because of how I feel. I’m not out here calling people out or dragging them; I’m not a child, and I don't have time for that. Besides, obsessing over some TV show isn't the most important thing in the world for me, nor is it for anyone else. I’m going to keep posting exactly what I think. If someone can't handle my take, they can just stop reading. I don't read every single post either, and frankly, I don't care. Everyone should be able to do the same.

Who’s stopping me from hating on Disney? Just because she’s the lead doesn't mean she's perfect. That’s nonsense. I love who I love, I respect who I respect, and I’m going to write about these characters based on how I actually see them and experience the story. And clearly, I'm not alone in this; plenty of others feel the exact same way.
I honestly don't get why I've become such a target of disagreement here. Are all the people agreeing with me trolls too? Because that feels like an insult to me and everyone standing by my side.