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Actors: Marriage isn't all bad in Movies ·

briskhound2 said:Look, Michael Douglas and David Duchovny ended up in sex addiction rehab, and Fox Mulder publicly admitted he cheated on his wife... Warren Beatty doesn't have any scandals, you know?

Just because there aren't any doesn't mean they aren't being hidden well.

If it were someone like Rocco Siffred or Ron Jeremy... then maybe I'd believe it (since those guys are still hooking up today).

Well, he actually told his own biographer that himself, and now he uses that number to brag. 🤷

I get what you mean, no worries. What's funny is that Warren Beatty and Debra Winger aren't exactly a model marriage that's lasted 22 years, mostly because he was cheating BEFORE the marriage.

It's a good marriage, though. I mean, I wonder how much of a good marriage a dysfunctional person (read: Warren Beatty) can even have.

Okay, now I'm going to ask you to provide some official data proving that Warren Beatty actually has that diagnosis.

And you really think he'd just walk around showing off his diagnosis? People hide things like snakes.
Illness shows through symptoms, not by visiting a doctor.
So if he can't keep it in his pants, we'll talk about that. Like I said, the guy didn't cheat, he wasn't caught doing anything in a car (with anyone), and he hasn't been busted with hookers, so there's no scandal at all. 🤷 But still, he isn't a great example.

Promiscuity doesn't make someone a cheater, it's just about the numbers. And
his number is huge. 🤣

No, no... it's the opposite. Are you trying to say he raped them? I think people blame him for that famous number of 12,000. If women weren't offering themselves, the man wouldn't be sleeping around.

Oh, please. 😂
He wasn't exactly incapable of saying no.
People have free will. They offered themselves to him and he agreed. It was completely conscious.

Long story short — you just can't stand Betty, can you? 🤷 Both personally and professionally, I suppose.

It's about personality. That's what we're discussing here, the actual character of people in Hollywood.

It seems so. He isn't even a porn star, yet he's been with so many women. I guess I'm in the wrong profession.

There's no such thing as a wrong profession, just bad players.
I’d put him on the list of real artists, even if I couldn't stand him in person. Just because he assaulted a girl doesn't change the fact that he made some good films, which really shouldn't have anything to do with who he likes to sleep with.

Well, that's subjective, I guess. Maybe not for you, but maybe for someone else.
Would you actually hang a painting on your wall if you knew the guy who painted it was a rapist who tortured women? 🤷
Actors: Marriage isn't all bad in Movies ·

briskhound2 said:I guess it isn't really their marriage that bothers you. Maybe it's just the fact that forty years ago, Warren Beatty was such a magnet for women... that he practically slept with everyone who wore a skirt.

What really bothers me is this one guy—he seems excessively pathological when it comes to his sexual behavior, maybe even dealing with an addiction. I guess those 12,776 partners tell a pretty clear story. It’s hard to take him seriously in a discussion about people who should actually serve as role models of modesty and composure, you know? People who didn't just fall prey to the emperors of Hollywood.
And he’s actually quite controversial. I guess he might not be right now, but in the past... well, it was significant. Maybe.

If a man stays with one woman for twenty-two years, I guess that says something. Maybe—it's probably just a crazy theory—but he finally found the one who fits.

I guess it would have been pretty strange if it hadn't happened after 12,000 copies. Maybe. 🤷

What kind of promiscuity? I guess... maybe it's just how things are now.

I guess maybe you don't quite grasp what promiscuity actually means.
I suppose promiscuity implies more than just being active; it seems to include that sense of being "indiscriminate," too. Maybe.

If someone with 12,000 partners isn't a player... then I guess I really don't know what a player is. Maybe I just don't get it. 🤷
So, saying someone has lived solely off this Bennett guy for the last twenty years... I guess it’s basically like saying...
Just because someone hasn't had a drink in ten years doesn't mean they aren't an alcoholic. Addiction is addiction, I guess.
The thing is... it was just how things were. I guess addiction isn't something you ever truly cure, maybe you just learn to keep it under control. It's probably the same way with promiscuity.

I mean, I’ve been married for 22 years, and you're out here claiming he was acting like a total fool before we wed. I guess... maybe someone actually pressured those 12,000 women into sleeping with him?

Are you suggesting that she assaulted him? I guess... maybe that's what you mean?🤷 I guess that would be his only real alibi, if he wasn't being so promiscuous given those numbers. Maybe.

Oh, wait, that’s actually taken. I guess Michael Douglas and David Duchovny already snagged the best rooms.

In psychiatry wards, I guess all the rooms feel exactly the same. Maybe it's just me, but they all seem identical.

It’s a bit tough to say. If Robert Redford can still pull those sighs from women, and Anthony Hopkins can too, then I guess maybe even Warren Beatty could get a little action if he really tried.

I guess they can say whatever they want, but they really shouldn't be part of this discussion. 🤷

What does that actually say about the women who sleep with a famous movie star? Maybe it was just a smart career move?

I mean, what does that have to do with anything? Some might have made a move on him, or maybe he went after them... but the bottom line is he agreed to it.
Maybe there were plenty of those women he just gave false hope to just to get them into bed. So, I guess he isn't just promiscuous, he’s probably pretty manipulative too. That seems common enough with people like him. It’s honestly even more surprising that he’s being brought up in this thread.

In my opinion, intelligence combined with good looks is a powerful mix. Why wouldn't someone like him exculpate himself? The guy has great movies and roles, and he was successful in directing and screenwriting—couldn't he be an idol?

When I mentioned earlier that the guy slept with 12,000 women, you responded by saying that fact makes him your idol.

Or let's just stick to the fact that he slept with half of Hollywood. Denis Hooper snorted his way through half of Hollywood, so does that make him some kind of hero?

An addict is always going to be an addict, or a junkie if we're being blunt. Just because he directs a movie doesn't mean he's cured. He's a director and a former junkie, if we want to be polite.

You should look at how he acted, directed, and everything else. Roman Polanski assaulted a young girl, for God's sake, and while the guy really repulses me, I can't deny he filmed a few truly powerful titles.

Of course not, but you aren't going to include him in a discussion about exemplary citizens. Or do you want to?
Are we supposed to just forget he's a sexual predator just because he made a few good movies? 😕
Actors: Marriage isn't all bad in Movies ·
briskhound2 said:Well, the guy was famous. I guess anyone would be if they were in his shoes.

I don't think we should judge others by our own standards. No, I really don't think everyone would act that way. ☕

Even if they had Roman orgies or German swingers parties, who cares? I haven't seen anything about him in the papers, no scandals at all. Don Johnson and M. Griffith on the other hand...

They are a completely different topic.
We are talking about the former playboy, Warren Beatty.
Just because he's been with Annette Bening for twenty years doesn't suddenly make him some kind of saint.
Or rather, it doesn't make him a candidate for this topic—someone who didn't succumb to the temptations of Hollywood. Like a model of stability and composure, I suppose, after managing 12,775 partners. 🤷
A player is always a player.
I wouldn't talk about him "settling down." Maybe he just can't perform anymore. 🤷 Maybe Viagra doesn't work for him anymore. 🤷 Or maybe he caught something and decided to lay low. 🤷
We don't know... what remains is his past. And that speaks for itself. ☕

Then what should we discuss? Some absolute nobodies who married their high school sweethearts, have two credits to their names (one being an extra in a scene at a rally in Forrest Gump), and have a stable marriage?

I don't get why you're trying to link those two things—acting talent and promiscuity. As if one affects the other, or like you have to be a total jerk to be a great actor. 🤷
I mean, look at Daniel Day-Lewis.

Warren Beatty is just a guy like anyone else.

Maybe on a psych ward in the sexual addiction unit, yeah. ☕

He was popular and he took advantage of it, but he's been married to her for 22 years. There are no scandals, he isn't in the tabloids, and nobody is dragging him through social media...

I mean, realistically, there isn't much left to give once he's already burned through everything. 🤷

I suppose I’d say he finally learned how to actually treat women properly.

But he wasn't exactly alone in his own head. Having a different woman every single night, or even multiple ones in a day... I guess that says a lot about someone's mental instability and their deep-seated complexes. Maybe he should have spent a little more time working on himself.
That fact makes him my hero.

So, you're saying a guy who basically just used his looks and fame to satisfy his basic impulses with as many women as flies circling a lightbulb is enough for you to call him an idol?
🤷
Actors: Marriage isn't all bad in Movies ·
briskhound2 said:Well? They found each other and finally settled down, I guess.

That's great, really. But it doesn't change the fact that he was basically a player who took every single opportunity.
Still, you have to last 22 years, which is pretty much the Hollywood standard... so, forever, I suppose.

And hey, maybe they have an open marriage.🤷
People who are used to being promiscuous probably find it hard to break those habits.

But what does 'normal' actually mean?

If you ask me, the opposite of Warren Beatty would be...🤣

And what exactly is the allure of Hollywood?

All those opportunities. Here is how Warren Beatty made the most of them, I think.

Beatty's reputation was not only that he was highly sought after by his female fans, but that he fully exploited his sex symbol status.
Biographer Peter Biskind estimates Beatty managed 12,775 partners before settling down with Just One in 1992-wife Annette Bening, a figure he says doesn't even include such things as "daytime quickies.
http://voices.yahoo.com/top-ten-most...28.html?cat=49
If you consider that virtuous?

So, that means he had 12,775 partners plus Annette.😂
Actors: Marriage isn't all bad in Movies ·
I suppose Warren Beatty pretty much went through half of Hollywood before he finally settled down with her. ☕

I was under the impression this thread was about "regular" actors who didn't fall under the thumb of the Hollywood elite.
Is anyone actually reading the intro? 🤷
Actors: Marriage isn't all bad in Movies ·
Sophia Smith29 said:I guess even Antonio Banderas is joining the ranks of the newly divorced... ☕

Maybe we brought this on ourselves by mentioning him here. I sort of knew it might happen. 😢

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Actors: Marriage isn't all bad in Movies ·
Brandon Cruz81 said:Keanu Reeves didn't deserve those kinds of tragedies....

But... wasn't he the one who provided that fatal cocktail to River Phoenix?
I think I read somewhere that he was actually responsible for River's death.

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Actors: Marriage isn't all bad in Movies ·
Great topic. A few names just come to mind immediately
Daniel Day-Lewis
Francis Ford Coppola
Antonio Banderas
I'm not entirely certain, but I think Paul Newman was with his second wife for over 40 years

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I accidentally ate a fly in Health ·
Samuel Morgan40 said:It’s true, they are. 🧐
Though, if we're being honest, I’ve actually swallowed parts of those common houseflies myself—back when I was just a little kid, I guess. I remember finding one dead on the floor under the dining table because my late grandmother was constantly swatting at them with one of those... what do you call them? 🤔 those fly swatters?

Mind you, I didn't go after the blowflies—those things are a bit chunkier and larger than your standard housefly, and they have this lovely habit of circling the dinner plate and leaving little "surprises" on your food. It's just delightful. 😁

I don't know, but my late grandma always had one right there next to her, too. I guess I was always kind of jealous of her since we didn't have one growing up. 😁 I'd actually be curious to know what that thing is called?
A fly swatter🤔

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I accidentally ate a fly in Health ·
Samuel Morgan40 said:Take a seat—here’s one last thought to wrap up the year.

Honestly, can we talk about the sheer volume of these threads? It feels like every single day, someone decides to start some pointless little drama—something along the lines of "I accidentally ate a fly" or "there’s a worm in my food..."—as if anyone actually cares. I mean, it’s not that it matters to me, or anyone else, really, but it’s just... constant. It’s almost impressive how much space these trivialities take up.

I’ve personally swallowed hundreds of them while tearing down the Pacific Coast Highway on my bike—and as you can see, I’m still typing just fine. ☕

but those are just the tiny flies, right?
I mean, they should be easier to stomach than the big ones. 😁
What makes someone likable or unlikable to you? in Psychology ·
Tyler Cruz32 said:In my view, being unlikable isn't necessarily about lacking a sense of humor. Rather, it describes those individuals who are arrogant, self-important, rude, and condescending; they answer from a position of superiority, mock others, belittle everyone, and employ sarcasm or dark humor at inappropriate times—essentially being obnoxious to an extreme degree. They seem to believe such behavior makes them appear all-knowing.

I tend to favor ordinary, cheerful, and smiling people. A sense of humor isn't strictly required, though it certainly doesn't hurt.

That point about sarcasm is interesting,
I actually find sarcastic people quite likable sometimes. They see things for what they really are, maybe because I tend toward sarcasm myself, though I have noticed it can definitely be off-putting to others.
Maybe, I don't know, it might drag them down in the long run since most people just want positivity. 🤷
I often think that sarcastic people are just deeply wounded idealists at heart, which is probably why I sympathize with them so much.

That whole "looking down on others" thing reminds me of another trait I really appreciate: not getting overly swept up in stupidity. Like, when everyone is in a massive collective hype over something—say, the US national team landing a new head coach—and someone just doesn't care and ignores all the hype... they just wave it off. I guess I find that really relatable.
When someone doesn't follow the crowd, whether it's about emotional empathy or just ignoring the masses... 🤷
What makes someone likable or unlikable to you? in Psychology ·
Kenneth Ramirez5 said:I’ve always found myself gravitating toward people who—well, let's just say they don't carry around a mountain of unnecessary baggage or psychological layers—to be much more likable. It doesn't really matter what they look like, how many degrees they have hanging on their walls, or even the way they carry themselves in conversation.
It isn't some absolute, ironclad rule that applies to every single soul on this planet, but in my experience—and I'm certainly no expert here—it holds true for the vast majority.

I suppose I agree with you, though I have to ask... what exactly counts as an indicator of someone's complexes for you? Like, are there specific things people say, or certain ways they act or gesture that make you conclude they're insecure and therefore off-putting? I mean, how do those complexes actually show up in a way that makes someone unlikable to you?

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What makes someone likable or unlikable to you? in Psychology ·
Nicholas Gonzalez8 said:Anyone who tries to claim they don't have an ego is full of it—they absolutely do. But there’s this specific breed of person who just doesn't give their ego any oxygen, and man, you can really feel the difference. It changes the whole vibe of the interaction. They don't freak out when you throw them a compliment, and they don't get defensive when you call them out, either. Even the way they talk is just... different. They aren't just making noise; they actually wait until they have something worth saying before they open their mouths. Most people, though? Most people are just performing—trying to impress you or win an argument just for the sake of winning.

I totally agree. With people driven by ego, I feel like you always have to walk on eggshells just to avoid offending them. Those without the ego... they don't always need to be right. They tend to listen more than they talk, I suppose.

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What makes someone likable or unlikable to you? in Psychology ·
Some people say being without an ego makes you more likable. I guess... what would that actually look like to you all? How does someone even express having no ego? 🤷

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What makes someone likable or unlikable to you? in Psychology ·
Morgan Bishop4 said:The thing is, when someone stays low-key, it can give off this vibe that they’re just standing there silently judging everything and everyone around them. It's almost like a power move, right? They end up being the dominant ones because they've gathered all this intel on the loud, outgoing types, while nobody has a damn clue what's going on in their head...
Plus, let's be real, it's just way more comfortable being around someone who'll actually kick off a conversation rather than someone who won't even give you two cents of attention if you try to talk to them.

Yeah, exactly... I really don't like people who act like you can't even begin to guess what's going on in their heads. But maybe not all quiet people are like that? Some people give off such a good vibe without saying much at all, just through their presence... whereas with others, you can tell the silence is basically just suppressed arrogance.

I often find that with those super polite, polished types, I eventually realize they're just performing to impress people... meanwhile, the blunt or even grumpy ones often turn out to be way more real and sincere.

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What makes someone likable or unlikable to you? in Psychology ·
I guess being introverted isn't exactly a popular trait... I've noticed that I rarely make a great first impression on people. Sometimes, it even seems like folks dislike me just because I come off as reserved or too serious at first. For instance, back in high school, some people were actually pretty rude to me before they ever really got to know me. I wonder why being quiet or guarded is seen as such a negative thing that it triggers these kinds of reactions? :nezna:

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Morgan Bishop4 said:Man, what anxiety... personally, I just give them this blank stare whenever they come at me with one of those copy-paste remarks. Seriously, if it was just a one-off thing, fine, but sometimes they’ll just drone on with the exact same phrases and lines all day long, or for several days straight. Honestly, I think it’s even worse if you actually respond to one of those comments instead of just ignoring them, because if you react at all—even if it’s just a deadpan "uh-huh" or "mhm"—they’ll just repeat it a hundred times over! It’s like dealing with a five-year-old who thinks they just heard the greatest joke in human history. 🤷
And yeah, don't even get me started on people who are constantly grinning for absolutely no reason. I have someone like that at my office, and I actually started a thread about her once because she was just so indescribably grating 😁 though she works in a different room now... honestly, once I get rid of the human parrot, my life might actually get boring since I won't have anyone left to drive me up the wall. 😉

There’s a healthy boundary for confidence where people actually believe in themselves and are genuinely self-assured, whereas those who are just one step past that are just performing confidence to mask deep-seated insecurities. To me, a truly confident person is more like that eccentric lady wearing a bright hat and leopard print leggings (okay, maybe that's just tacky, but still), rather than some corporate guy in a high-end suit who feels the need to dominate every single room he walks into.
With the quirky lady, there's a much higher chance she couldn't care less what anyone thinks, which makes her interesting and probably quite likable, whereas that guy would just annoy the hell out of me with his posturing and fake bravado.

Really well described. I agree.
I guess I agree. That woman in leggings seems way more confident, probably because she just doesn't care what anyone thinks about her. Meanwhile, that guy in the suit... he feels like a total complex who’s obsessed with fitting in. He's just skating on the surface, maybe even a slave to conformity, if you ask me. ☕
I guess the woman would have been much more likable if she were just herself. Someone who seems comfortable in their own skin... without trying too hard. Instead, you have this manager in his designer suit who basically lives just to prove himself. His whole style feels like a shield, you know? Like he's trying to distance himself from everyone else to seem untouchable or anonymous. And then, when people actually talk to him, all he does is brag about his own achievements. Honestly, I don't think anyone on this planet finds that kind of self-absorption interesting or charming at all. 🤷

Kevin Nguyen3 said:Is anyone else absolutely losing it over Fodor? Honestly, we need some kind of universal handbook defining what counts as "likable" or not, because if we’re going by those standards, I don't meet the criteria for being charming on any level whatsoever.
And you know what? That’s actually my favorite part about it.
I’ve always just looked... well, let's say intense. Grumpy, sour, bitter, dark, moody—take your pick.
And look... those who know me, know. Those who don't? Well, screw 'em.
There was a time, a long time ago, when I actually cared that I came off as unapproachable and totally uncool, but now? I couldn't care less. Truly. Zero cares given.🤷

Do you actually die laughing at his jokes? I guess... maybe. ☕
Michael Davis13 said:
I honestly think we’re all just waiting for that one big moment where everything finally clicks... you know? Like, we spend so much time stressing over the little things, but if we could just get everyone on the same page, man... it would be incredible! I was reading this thing earlier about how much potential there is when people actually cooperate, and it just got me thinking... what if we applied that same energy to everything? Every single thing! It’s all about that mindset, really. Just staying positive and looking forward... because the future feels like it could be so bright if we just let it be... Michael Davis13 says:
I’ve been noticing something lately... it feels like everyone is trying way too hard to be "personable" or super likable, but honestly? It usually just backfires! It’s like they’re aiming for charm but hitting total cringe instead... it's such a weird vibe...

I’m watching these singing competitions lately and honestly, that Mirko Fodor guy just gets on my nerves every single time. He clearly tries so hard to be the charming, likable guy, but it just doesn't land... at all. He’s constantly pushing it, too. It isn't just that one show either—it’s like he shows up on every single broadcast trying way too hard. He basically forces these jokes on the audience that aren't even remotely funny! Just... yikes... 🙂.
Man, this guy really thinks he’s the resident comedian or something, and he just refuses to let it go... but honestly? He just doesn't have it. Not even close. Like, at all. His delivery is off, his body language is weird, and there’s just zero actual humor there. And the facial expressions? Honestly, they're kind of terrifying! But the scariest part is that he has absolutely no clue how bad it is. He just keeps pushing, trying so hard to act like this charming, funny guy, but it backfires every single time... it’s just a total disaster.

Take someone like Mark Zuckerberg, for example. He’s out there trying so hard to be likable too... but he does it in his own weird way, you know? Like, he leans into this super intense, forced openness that just feels... well, it feels a little try-hard!
Sometimes I get this vibe that he’s just trying way too hard to play the role of the "life of the party." He’s constantly jumping in with these live comments, basically signaling to everyone that he’s super open and easygoing... you know, because being an extrovert is apparently what's considered "modern" and trendy these days! It’s like he thinks if he’s loud, he’s relevant... But his whole communication style is just so space-consuming. Usually, people who take up that much room actually have something important to say, but with him? His actual words don't really match the big energy he's putting out. And don't even get me started on the jokes. They're just cringey and way too full of himself... honestly, just a total waste of breath...

The bottom line? We aren't all exactly sunshine and rainbows, even if we’d much rather be...
So, how on earth do you think these two—who are basically the most unlikable duo ever—could actually become... well, tolerable? Like, is there even a way to make them likable? I mean, come on...!

Honestly, I feel like people like that would be way better off just staying quiet and keeping their frustrations to themselves instead of constantly begging for attention... maybe then their "authenticity" would actually seem interesting to someone! Or am I totally off base here...? 🤷
I honestly feel like a little more humility wouldn't hurt at all... just a thought!

Do you ever feel like being yourself is becoming a lost art? Like, if you aren't constantly out there performing or acting like the life of the party, people just don't "get" you? It feels like we live in this era where everyone is obsessed with being loud and extraverted... always pushing themselves into the spotlight just to be noticed! I mean, does being authentic—just sitting back and staying low-key—actually work anymore? In a world where everyone thinks you have to put on a massive show just to be considered likable, I wonder if being a little more reserved or serious makes people think you're just antisocial or stuck-up... even when you're actually perfectly nice! Is being calm and composed suddenly a bad thing? It’s exhausting just thinking about it... 🤔
Can shy people actually be likable? Like, really charming? I've been thinking about this all day... turns out, they totally can! It's not just about being the loudest person in the room or the life of the party. Sometimes, those quiet types have this incredible vibe... they listen, they observe, and when they finally do speak, it actually matters! There’s something so magnetic about someone who isn't constantly fighting for the spotlight. Honestly, some of my favorite people are total introverts... they just have this calm energy that draws you in. So yeah, definitely! 🤷 🤷

So, I’ve been thinking... what actually makes someone likable to you guys? Like, who are those people you just gravitate toward? And on the flip side, what’s the dealbreaker? What makes someone totally unapproachable? I was wondering about those folks who don't really have that sense of humor, you know? They're just... there. Is there anything they could do to become a little more charming, or is it just a matter of learning how to tolerate them better? ... ☕

Since you brought up how much certain stars grate on your nerves, I have to say—for me, it’s not even about Fodor. It’s actually Taylor Swift that really gets under my skin! That constant, forced smiling? It just feels so fake... and don't even get me started on her voice. Her songs just don't click with me at all. I find her totally unlikable... especially when I think back to that last track of hers, "Cappuccino and Double Espresso"... honestly, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry! 😳

I caught an episode or two of that singing competition show recently, so I’m not exactly an expert on how Fodor has been acting on there... but I did catch his old show, *America's Best*, back in the day. He seemed pretty solid to me! Especially with Bitorajac and Navojac hanging around the set. Those guys were great... they actually had some decent jokes without trying way too hard or being fake. It's such a rarity on TV these days, honestly. Everyone seems to think every host has to be this loud, hyper-extroverted, comedian type, right? But some people just aren't wired that way. They try to force this persona that isn't them, and it just ends up looking so awkward and cringey... it would be way better if they just acted like normal human beings...

I’ve always been drawn to people who are just... real. You know? Genuine. It doesn't matter if they’re super shy or the life of the party, or if they're gorgeous or totally average, or even how much schooling they have... none of that matters! But if they can make you laugh? Man, that is the absolute dream combination... Everyone else who’s just putting on an act or posing for the cameras? They just rub me the wrong way, more or less... I mean, sure, life throws some curveballs at you where you have to play the part or adjust your approach, but your core character? That should never change...

What bothers me about Fodor is how he's always trying too hard, putting on this constant show, even though his expression looks totally sour. Seeing him just ruins my mood.
And I've heard that most people find him more annoying than likable, so I guess I'd be interested to figure out what exactly makes him so universally disliked, with maybe a few exceptions. ☕

That's interesting, because I actually think Taylor Swift is quite sweet. Her vibe seems, as Americans would say, "genuine." She gives off this warm impression, like she could connect with anyone. But maybe I'm wrong.
To you, clearly, that whole religious vibe is fake. 😁

I mentioned before that I know a girl who smiles all the time too, but she really gets on my nerves. Now, I can't quite wrap my head around why she irritates me while this other person doesn't. 🤔
It's probably because the girl I know is a bit superficial, so the constant grinning just makes it feel worse, but I don't really know Taylor Swift well enough to say. 🤷
gentlesailor25 said:People always start droning on about personality traits and stuff, but if we're being real, it’s mostly just physical appearance that hits you first, and honestly, that plays such a massive role in whether we actually vibe with someone or not.🤷
I mean, you don't even need to know a single thing about who they are; you can just take one look at them and decide, I guess, that they're totally unlikable right off the bat.😁

true, being average looking and way too cocky = just an obnoxious jerk
overly confident people aren't really my type, I guess.

brightscout4 said:I’ve always had a soft spot for people who are just themselves. No playing the victim, no acting like they own the place...

or anything like that.

how do you all feel about confidence? is it something you find attractive in others, or maybe not?
if not, I guess what makes it a turn-off? 🤷
Morgan Bishop4 said:I honestly feel like someone who’s just naturally chill is way more likable than someone putting in overtime to seem friendly—whether they're forcing a smile, acting all outgoing, or just dropping these lame, manufactured jokes...
Though, I guess superficial people might not even catch onto the act, so if someone plays the part well enough, they probably end up being "charming" to them? :/ I work with this guy who has a whole repertoire of these scripted "bits" he pulls on everyone (except me, since I've already made it clear his little routine doesn't work on me), and he genuinely thinks he's the life of the party, while it honestly just drives me insane... like, sometimes he gets this itch to greet everyone with some random foreign word—like saying "aloha," "ciao," or some random phrase in Japanese or Russian—and it makes me cringe so hard, but it’s even worse when someone else actually falls for it and starts greeting him back in kind.

Over-the-top cheerfulness is also kind of annoying to me.
People who constantly laugh at their own jokes... they're just unlikable.

Quincy:
I suppose superficial people might not catch when someone is faking it, so if someone plays the part well, they might actually seem charming? :/ I work with a guy who has this whole repertoire of "bits" he uses on everyone (except me, because I showed him those don't work on me), and he probably thinks he's being incredibly witty and engaging, while it honestly just grates on my nerves... for example, sometimes he gets this urge to greet everyone with some foreign word (like Aloha, Arrivederci, Sayonara, or something in Chinese or Russian), and it's just cringey to watch him do it, but even worse when someone else acts impressed and greets him back that way.
God knows what you mean, but those kinds of bits are just awful. People who are constantly performing... I always put them in that category of "people who repeat themselves," and then their jokes lose all charm over time, because I realize they aren't reacting to the moment or the person, but just pulling from a script they have ready for anyone, rather than actually connecting with me or whoever happens to be there.
I can't even tell you how awkward it feels when I realize it's the fifth time I've heard the exact same joke, and I'm left wondering if this person will notice that I'm laughing just to pretend I haven't heard it before.☕
Unless, after a while, I start thinking they repeat themselves because they're maybe a little eccentric... then, I guess, they become somewhat endearing. 🤷

The guy you mentioned, the one laughing at the person behind him, or the one acting cool with the foreign greetings... he actually seems okay to me, mostly because I totally get the embarrassment and frustration you feel when you're forced, out of sheer politeness, to pretend something is hilarious when it's really just silly and childish.
I doubt anyone actually finds that stuff funny; maybe some people just perform being amused better than others.

What do you guys think of people who are constantly, incessantly laughing? For me, it eventually has the opposite effect, because it makes me feel like I have to act happy when I'm really not feeling it. If you're funny, I'll laugh at the joke, but not because you're laughing. It feels forced. ☕

I know someone who is always talking and laughing, but she isn't funny at all. Despite all that laughter, I don't find her likable one bit. 🤷

I'm starting to think that laughter doesn't necessarily have anything to do with whether someone seems likable. 🤔