Well, almost every Intel processor released after 2011 comes with integrated graphics built-in, except for those specific i5 models ending in -P. If you're just looking to play something light, I guess AMD might offer a bit more performance, though it's still pretty underwhelming.
Honestly, it feels worse than the Formula Force EX... the DFGT is easily two tiers above it.
That linked one was actually my first wheel, followed by the DFGT. Even though I mostly just tore it up in small amateur leagues, those cheap ones really hold you back when it comes to speed and consistency—mostly because of that limited 180° rotation. The DFGT has 900°, which usually lands between 270-450° for most setups, and even more for GT cars. Plus, the pedals are pretty terrible, especially if you have a big foot and a heavy leg like mine. 😬
It really depends on how serious you are. If you're actually competing, the absolute bare minimum would be the Formula Force EX, but the DFGT is definitely preferred.
There isn't really anything significantly better for that socket. You might find some weak dual-core chips that could technically outperform a Celeron G1820 for $80. Of course, that would require grabbing 1x4GB DDR3, a motherboard, and probably an HDD, which puts you at about $333. Even then, you still wouldn't have a decent machine for gaming 😬
Even if you drop in the absolute best processor that fits that socket, you're still probably looking at a max of an HD 6670 GDDR5 or something similar.
Well... the GTX 970 is probably still the best value if you can snag one for around $270-$933. The R9 290 is quite a step up from the R9 280 x, so in the US, I guess it definitely justifies the price gap for $800 (it used to be worth it at $270-$933 before the GTX 970 showed up). That said, prices for the R9 280 x and the R9 280 should probably drop further now that AMD slashed their rates, but since we're in America 😬 ...who knows if we'll actually see that happen. For instance, most FX processors dropped by about $10-$20 a few weeks ago (which is roughly $80-$50 here), yet prices haven't budged an inch (at least not yet).
What’s the goal for this build? Are you grabbing all the parts from one shop? What's the budget looking like? And do you really need to go through Instagram? I think there are plenty of cheaper retailers out there.
1 x MSI R7 265 2GD5 OC, 2GB DDR5, DVI-I, DVI, DP, HDMI, R7 265 2GD5 1 x Fortron 600W Power Supply, Hyper, PPA6003302, 12cm fan 1 x WD 1TB HDD, Caviar Blue 10EZEX, 1000 GB, SATA3, 64 MB, 3.5", 24mo
$673 AMD
You don't really need more RAM; 8GB is plenty, and honestly, the speed doesn't matter much. It'll run at 1333MHz since everything defaults to the slowest module—which I guess is that Kingston one—but whatever, it won't make a difference. A CX430W would probably be enough for you, but this power supply is just $30 pricier while offering way more headroom.
1 x ASRock H81 M-ATX 1 x AMD FM2 Processor A8-Series X4 7600 (3.8GHz,4MB,65W,FM2+) box 1 x Fortron 300 W Power Supply, active PFC, 12 cm fan, bulk 1 x Corsair ATX Case, mATX, external slots: 4x5,25 1 x Seagate HDD 500, Serial ATA III, 7200 rpm, Barracuda 7200.12 1 x DDR3 4GB (1x4GB) Kingston, 1866MHz, CL10, HyperX Fury, HX318C10F
$692 Local shop in St. Louis - free shipping and assembly included
The PC arrives at your door and you pay then. This processor actually has a pretty decent integrated graphics chip; I guess it could even handle some heavier games on Low settings at Full HD. The only real bottleneck is the RAM, since the graphics will have to borrow from the system memory. If you went with 8GB of RAM (2x4GB), the price would jump up to nearly $800. Alternatively, $800 you could go with an Intel dual-core paired with a much stronger dedicated graphics card, but if you ever wanted to upgrade later, you’d probably need a new processor too, not just a new GPU.
Actually, it’s not Intel Hyper-Threading. In the Piledriver and Bulldozer architectures, those two cores per module share the L2 cache and the FPU, but they are actual physical cores, unlike Intel's approach.
I think Linus Torvalds explained it once—Hyper-Threading is basically like trying to eat with two hands (representing the tasks being handed to a core) but only having one mouth (the core itself). So, Hyper-Threading is really just a very efficient scheduler. That isn't how AMD does things.
You probably just need to swap out the GPU, maybe grab an R7 265 for about $367 and you're set; 95% of games will run at max settings at 1080p. For the absolute heaviest titles, you might have to settle for High.
Steven White96 said:So, here's the deal. I'm currently running this NVIDIA sapphire radeon hd 4890 https://www.newegg.com/example-gpu-link, and since it's been about 5 years, I figure it might be time for an upgrade. It’s actually been a beast and hasn't given me any trouble, but I just finished refreshing my other components, so now it's finally time for the GPU. I haven't really kept up with the market lately, so I'm a bit out of the loop. I was wondering:
1. What kind of cash could I maybe get for my old sapphire card? 2. How much should I expect to shell out for a new one—doesn't matter if it's NVIDIA or AMD—as long as it outperforms what I have now?
Michael Jackson10 said:Hey, I don't want to start a whole new thread, but I'm looking at the opposite situation and could use some guidance from the experts. What's the best way to pair a CPU with a specific graphics card? Basically, what would be the ideal Intel or AMD processor choice for: - R7 260x / GTX 750 - R7 265 / GTX 750 Ti
I've been out of the loop for a while, so I hope I paired these cards together roughly correctly. If anyone knows, maybe a link or just some general advice on how not to overbuild one side of the CPU/GPU balance for a mid-range build being put together in stages—since the GPU is what's on deck right now. I know giving general advice is tricky, but I guess a quad-core is pretty much the baseline these days if you want the investment to last through the next four years without being obsolete immediately.
Core i5-2500K is the bare minimum. Honestly, it might be better to aim for an FX 6300 paired with a 970A-DS3P and a decent cooler; that way you can do some moderate overclocking and leave the door open for beefier cards later on.