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Charles Ruiz6 said:Look, we aren't some organized military unit where everyone just follows orders without a word. Not to mention half the core crowd just stands there acting tough when they actually need to be cheering.
The biggest issue here is that most people—including plenty on this forum—obsess over supposed "extremists" and "radicals." It seems like one headline in a local paper was enough for you guys to form an entire opinion about the Bad Boys. Honestly, I haven't seen any of these "radicals" you keep making up in your stories. People who have zero connection to actual fan culture are out here creating myths about extremists and other nonsense, which just clutters the conversation and drags things out for no reason. You walk down the street, you see punks in a park and realize that's a certain vibe; you see skaters and get the same idea. Then you see regular fans dominating the crowd—people anywhere from 7 to 77 years old. Doesn't matter if they've traveled to two away games or 200, or if they've set off 200 flares or none at all. Everyone thinks they're an expert on everything. Respect? Solidarity? A sense of belonging to a group? Those terms are totally foreign here. As long as you follow the trend and dress like the guy next door, suddenly you're part of the crew like you've been there for years. At this point, it’s not even about the younger kids joining in; it’s about a completely broken value system. There's no real history, no mentality, and zero respect being built.
That’s what separates a true group from just a random crowd of people. The situation has become so backwards and the whole system is so warped that everyone talking about the group is somehow right and wrong at the same time.
We’re talking about the supporter culture, but let’s be real—that movement died a long time ago, or at least it’s hanging by a thread when it comes to actual awareness. It wasn't just about that last game. The issue goes back through the last few MLS seasons, and it hits every single group across America, some more than others.
The kind of conversations you need to be having in your neighborhood, on the street corner, or grabbing a beer at a local pub... you just can't build that kind of thing on a forum. Especially since it never actually reaches the people who need to hear it most.
feralwolf16 said:🤣🤣🤣
Look, man, with two laws already on the books, it’s way too late to fix this now. We should have thought about this sooner instead of just obsessing over those viral clips of us acting like we're the toughest guys on earth and mocking people from New York. All we're going to get is a reality check. It'll be just like when that coach was at the old stadium and 200 people were absolutely tearing him apart while the whole crowd booed—honestly, most intense moment ever 😁. People just love the Kansas City Chiefs too much. I mean, seriously, look at the city. It's covered in graffiti.
True, but it's also not the time for those pathetic songs about our "unlucky" team always missing the championship. For the last six seasons, fans just head home hoping things will magically improve next year. The league is a joke, the fans are getting targeted, and we're all just sitting there silent, acting like none of this is even happening in our own backyard.
Look, guys, you’re all wasting your breath talking about nothing right now. We’re missing the big picture. While everyone's distracted by trivial nonsense, the MLB mafia is still running wild behind the scenes. And did you see that? The ref actually called the game because of some flares that didn't even hit the pitch. It was a massive red flag. It showed everyone exactly how this works: if the top brass in those criminal clubs and associations wants a derby shut down, they can pull the plug whenever they feel like it. That's the reality we're dealing with.
While we’re all sitting here bickering over spreadsheets and waving around signs, they’re out there busy intimidating journalists, referees, judges, and even cabinet members.
Looking at the overall state of American soccer right now, yesterday’s derby was actually a blast. Both sets of fans really showed up and brought the energy.
Just like how we love to complain about how journalists and politicians obsess over trivial nonsense just to distract everyone from the real issues facing the country, we’re doing the exact same thing right now by focusing on these minor details...
The one bright spot was that massive roar from us and the Black Knights. Every single player getting back onto the pitch after the break just fueled that energy. Honestly, we’re all just collectively telling the MLS mafia to go screw themselves.
Everything else was just Petranović talking.
Liverpool FC got robbed again, and honestly, I’m not even surprised. It’s just business as usual at this point. What’s actually wild is that the fix happened during the derby against Real Madrid. Usually, this rigged machine finishes its dirty work a week or two before the actual match, but hey, that's how it goes. The truth is, MLS games are tucked away on those expensive, encrypted cable packages where nobody can find them. Hardly anyone even saw the Saturday derby. Football in this country is a total mess, the whole nation is running in circles, so it makes perfect sense that nobody gives a damn about a sport that's clearly run by the MLB mafia.
I don't think there’s a single decent citizen in this country who hasn't realized by now that football is a complete joke if the playing field isn't level. And let's be real—it’s never going to be fair as long as Zdravko Mamić and Vlatko Marković are calling the shots, buying off officials, and bullying everyone in their path. It’s pathetic. Word on the street is that even The Administration finally caught wind of the mess, and apparently, some big-shot ministers are gearing up to take action. But until we actually see results, we're stuck watching old footage from years past. It’s just a sad, miserable display of what should be a noble sport being turned into a showcase for a bunch of arrogant thugs whose time is clearly running out. Either they’ve finally realized nobody’s coming to save them and they're just putting on one last desperate performance, or the government—the same one that threw its former Prime Minister behind bars—just doesn't have the backbone to deal with a few primitive, low-life bullies. There’s no third option.
Alright, let’s break this down for anyone who missed the chaos. Once again, Liverpool FC got absolutely robbed by Real Madrid. Honestly, there’s no point even sweating over that bizarre starting eleven, those ridiculous yellow cards, or that insane seven-minute stoppage in the middle of the match. It was pure nonsense. The bottom line? They were cheated. It was calculated and dirty. They did it using a referee whom the guys from the capital falsely accused of rigging games just three years ago—only to spend the next few years relentlessly harrassing him for it. That’s just how things work in the MLS. This is the system.
Look, let’s be real here. If guys facing bribery and match-fixing charges can just walk out of custody and then turn around and publicly threaten the star witness, why are we even acting surprised? When notorious criminals like Širić and Djedović basically hint that it'll be "interesting to see what happens" to the person who blew the whistle on this whole mess, you know exactly where things are headed. It’s a pattern. We see it all the time. There are countless cases where honest whistleblowers get crushed while the cowards just flip sides and keep on thriving. Do we actually believe this "cleaning up the league" movement is going to stay pure? I highly doubt it. In my experience, there’s always some backroom compromise, some shady coalition, or just plain old opportunistic sucking up to the wrong people to stay on top. It's how the game is played.
Look, the easiest thing to do is just boycott the whole mess. But honestly? That only helps the people who don't care, the lazy ones, and the elitists who think soccer is just "entertainment for the unwashed masses." They completely miss the point. They don't get how much social rot leaks out through sports, or how much toxic garbage has been seeping from the MLS into our entire culture over the last fifteen years. People are going to realize just how much damage was done only when the whole thing hits the floor with a loud, painful crash.
Back then, Liverpool FC basically had to hand them the win on a silver platter. He had no choice but to walk out on that game because of all the shady business happening over in the capital. He had to pull his players off the pitch to dodge those sanctions, leaving Real Madrid to just mess around with the ref and sit in the VIP boxes. Honestly, he did it for his own dignity, for his principles, and just to save face. When times get this radical, you’ve gotta take radical measures.
manually edited said:It didn't happen because they didn't want it to happen. It was all like, "Good evening, are you Black Knights? You looking for a fair fight?" That’s basically how those days went right after the attack.
That’s exactly the point.👍...this isn't about glorifying Russia or whatever narrative you guys are trying to spin. It's actually the opposite—it's about getting our people back down to earth. Based on what you're saying, you'd think absolutely nothing happened, because hey, who would dare mess with the Black Knights? Or like, those guys who got hurt weren't even part of a fight; they were just wasted or high. According to "Jure," he just tripped down some stairs and messed up his arm, and "Mati" smashed his nose against a bar because he was too drunk.
But go ahead, keep building these myths so the next generation can sit around talking about their little trip to St. Petersburg...
Keith Brown80 said:They’re just talking nonsense. Why didn't they go after the first group back in St. Petersburg?
I’ve got photos of us just hanging out, no cops in sight, just posing with scarves in some plaza over there. So why didn't they crack down then?
It’s a total joke. Seriously, you'd think we were talking about aliens or something.
Even if there wasn't that massive police presence in Miami, they would've been absolutely wrecked. That much is obvious.
Were you even in Russia?
Funny how everyone complains when the cops are everywhere watching fans, acting like we all want to be left alone. But now that it's St. Petersburg, suddenly everyone's whining about how the police weren't there enough?
What's the actual issue here? Maybe it's because the Zenit fans played fair and didn't steamroll us. They could have easily crushed dozens of our small groups scattered across the city during those two or three days, but they didn't. Or did you guys actually *want* them to crush every single one of our groups in that typical North American way, just so you could come home and whine about "cowards" who group up to throw quiet provocations?
Sean Sullivan87 said:Honestly, it’s just pure stupidity seeing everyone dump their group grievances here, no matter how tiny or completely irrelevant they are. Look, if you’ve got issues, take them to the meetings, bring them up at the stands, or vent about them while grabbing a beer with the crew at the local clubhouse. This isn't the place for that kind of drama. A forum like this? Not happening.
So, let’s talk about the real issue here: is it actually a problem with the individual ultras, or is the entire group just fundamentally broken? I’ve been thinking about this quite a bit lately. When things go sideways at the stadium, everyone loves to point fingers at a few rogue fans and call it a day. But honestly? That’s a lazy way to look at it. If you’ve got a situation where the same patterns keep repeating—the same chaos, the same tension, the same clashes with security—you can't just blame a couple of guys in hoodies. At some point, you have to look at the culture of the whole organization. If the core values of the group are built on friction rather than actual support for the team, then the "problem" isn't an outlier. It's the foundation. You can't fix a systemic issue by just picking off individuals. It's deeper than that.😂🤣🤣 🤷
feralwolf16 said:what do they even have to do with the Black Knights??
Man, I guess the issue is just that some people claim to be Ultras within the Black Knights?? Or maybe it’s just that nobody actually knows where they came from.
Man, all these music critics... the truth is we just vibe with that South American style. We’re basically their loyal shadow—that raw spontaneity, the madness, the tight-knit crews, the pure chaos... that kind of energy totally fits us, so let it be. It’s pretty stupid to talk about "copying lyrics" when even the fan culture in Chile is a carbon copy, and honestly, who cares at this point? As long as we aren't ripping off some bands from the North America, I couldn't care less about what the Italians, the French, or whoever else is doing.