Posts by driftinggull21

I see. Now I understand. She was found to be mentally incompetent after committing the crime, so she has clearly been declared unfit. As such, she lacks legal capacity, and the court is mandating compulsory psychiatric treatment and confinement within a forensic psychiatric facility. Therefore, this isn't just standard involuntary hospitalization.

Kenneth Scott41 said:Yeah, I am unhappy. I broke up with my girlfriend, and that’s why I’m on the pills.

Do not do that to yourself. No one is worth sacrificing your health or your life for. Taking those pills won't undo the past; it will only cause you harm.

Quotation:

Didn't you hear that you should never chase after streetcars or girls?

... and I would add "or guys" as well...😁

A diagnosis will certainly be established. Involuntary hospitalization will be extended for another 30 days if the individual remains in an acute psychotic state, lacks insight into their condition, or continues to pose a risk through self-harm or aggression toward others.

If criminal proceedings are initiated against them, or if a psychiatric evaluation is conducted in the interim, would there be justified grounds to extend their treatment or hospitalization?
Or...? Thanks.

Could you clarify this for me? What kind of evaluation are we talking about? Is it for fitness for duty or legal competency? Are we discussing forensic psychiatry at this point?😕 And what specific reasons?🤷

Jeepers Creepers

Jeepers Creepers 2

The 2013 third installment: Jeepers Creepers: Cathedral

I found both to be excellent; they possess a certain vintage quality reminiscent of Tales from the Crypt.😁 That is the specific style of horror I enjoy.😍

A psychiatrist can hold an individual in a psychiatric facility without their consent if they deem it necessary to detain them for a maximum of 72 hours. Once that period expires, the patient must either be discharged or undergo a formal process for involuntary hospitalization.

If someone is involuntarily committed—meaning they are hospitalized against their will—they are released once treatment is complete, as dictated by the county court order. This typically lasts 30 days from the date of admission. If further care is required, the court may extend the involuntary commitment for an additional 30 days.

Donna Torres5 said:Goodness, what on earth is going on with Kuksa??

The Children's Hospital on Kuksa Street.

Mark Nelson said:I've been in treatment since July 2011. 😁 So, I guess it doesn't really matter which one it was, right?

And as for the prescriptions and refills—well, she could have mentioned that, or even my psychiatrist! 🙄

But fine, from now on I won't be bouncing around from one doctor to another totally misinformed. 😬
Thanks, driftinggull21! 😉

Then just bring her the most recent one. You're seeing her for the Kuksa prescriptions anyway...

Are you suggesting that simply bringing my GP a medical report listing all my current medications means I won't have to keep returning for new prescriptions once I run out?

Is this report some kind of official certification, or can I just present any old document regardless of when it was issued?

You can't exactly walk in with a report from 2005😁. You bring a copy of your most recent report from Kuksa, which clearly outlines your prescribed therapy and refill schedule. From there, the doctor sends an e-prescription directly to the pharmacy for you to pick up.
Once you run low on medication—assuming you are following the prescribed dosage, of course—you call your primary care physician, and they can issue a new e-prescription based on that existing documentation.

Valium belongs to the benzodiazepine class; it does not have an AD effect. (It is used for sleep disorders)

Mark Nelson said:Can Valium actually act as an antidepressant? And is it even a good idea to take it for that?
(It was originally prescribed for my insomnia, just as needed, but Seroquel absolutely wrecks me 😁)
so there wasn't really any point in taking it beforehand just to try and get some decent rest.

I tried it anyway, and honestly, I felt better—like, more okay—but it didn't knock me out at all. I know the whole addiction risk is real, though.

The thing is, I took it because I ran out of my AD, Zoloft. The doctors on duty wouldn't give me a refill because I missed my scheduled appointment due to school stuff. At the local Children's Hospital 🙂
(though I guess they have some decent doctors in there 🙂 )

so now I'm stuck without my meds until Monday. If they had given me more, their entire pill bunker would've been empty within three days.🙄

Why go to the clinic for your prescription? I assume you have a report from the clinic stating your therapy; just copy it, take it to your primary care physician, and they can send you electronic prescriptions. That would be much simpler.🤷

A few funny moments here. While the first installment was a bit underwhelming, there's no harm in giving this a watch.😉

1. I am not certain you understood my initial question. The issue wasn't what one would do if faced with death threats, but rather how one responds when accused of threatening someone else's life—for instance, if an individual accuses you of attempting to kill them while suffering from a mental illness. Using paranoid schizophrenia as an extreme example, wouldn't that fundamentally alter the credibility of such claims? The media frenzy surrounding the "Pukanić case" began, if memory serves, when Mirjana Pukanić accused her husband of attempting to forcibly institutionalize her and seize her assets—effectively stripping her of her legal capacity. Both claims were true, which is undisputed. She summoned B. A. B. E. and a swarm of reporters to document everything. Subsequently, the media attacks on I. Pukanić began, alleging he was trying to dispose of his wife and violating various rights. Therefore, I. P. did not initiate the media involvement or leak his wife's diagnosis; he merely responded to her accusations and the resulting media coverage.

driftinggull21: I truly wouldn't occupy myself with this, nor do I wish for this thread to devolve into a case study of the late Pukanić. One can hold a discussion without relying on that.

Regarding point 2 (to avoid quoting excessively), my tone was not patronizing. My emphasis was specifically on BAP. Bipolar psychosis is not used interchangeably with BAP; BAP may or may not include psychotic elements (though the diagnostic codes at JPMorgan Chase remain distinct for both). Using the term "bipolar psychosis" immediately implies a psychotic disorder, which is not necessarily the case.
It is true that family members of those with mental illnesses sometimes—though certainly not always—endure an absolute ordeal. We do not choose illness; tomorrow, you, I, or someone close to us could be diagnosed with BAP. What then? 🤷
If circumstances become unbearable and too heavy, we always have the option to leave. Perhaps walking away would be the more ethical choice for both parties rather than remaining in a relationship with no future. Naturally, this depends on many variables, but here we are assuming a worst-case scenario.

Point 3 regarding assets: during a breakdown.
I am unsure what kind of "flexibility" you are referring to. Control does not lie with a partner, a sibling, or a child... it rests with a judge in the Superior Court, based upon the findings and opinions of a forensic psychiatrist from outside the hospital where the patient is being treated.
The expert witness is the deciding factor.

Person A accuses you of wanting to kill them.

Person A suffers from paranoid schizophrenia.

In such a scenario, would you still zealously defend their right to privacy and the non-disclosure of their mental health status?

If someone were threatening my life, I would contact the police rather than the media.

My follow-up questions: are you aware of the symptoms and manifestations of bipolar psychosis, the consequences it imposes on both the patient and their loved ones, and what an individual might do during manic versus depressive episodes?

Yes. The correct term is Bipolar Disorder. We have a dedicated thread on the subject, so I assume most regular members possess some level of familiarity with it.

Furthermore, do you know under what legal circumstances involuntary hospitalization can be mandated?

Of course. Simply put: when a mentally ill individual poses a threat to themselves, others, or property.

hollowviper40 said:You make a very logical argument—even if people don't want to admit it, they have to agree with you. Since you're clearly well-informed, I'd love to hear your take on what kind of long-term impact we're looking at for someone who takes antidepressants continuously for years—ten, fifteen, twenty, or more—specifically those SSRIs that work by preventing serotonin reuptake?

SSRIs are often a preferred choice for treating depression because they generally carry fewer side effects than other types of antidepressants.
If someone is on medication for that long, there is undoubtedly a serious reason for it; the treatment plan is what it is, and one should trust their psychiatrist. Psychiatrists aren't in league with big pharma (despite what some people think), and they are actually quite relieved when a patient can finally be taken off medication.
As for what happens in 10 or 20 years of usage, I cannot tell you. I don't deal in speculation, and I don't have a crystal ball😁, so attempting to answer would be irresponsible.

I am terrified of becoming just another guinea pig in psychiatric testing—someone who takes their first dose of Zoloft and ends up tethered to a prescription bottle for the rest of their life...

I fear I will never be able to return to my old self through a natural remedy.

And perhaps the author of that book mentioned above was right...

Antibiotics work by completing a course to cure an infection. Other conditions, such as high blood pressure, are managed by taking medication to remain stable. Epilepsy is kept under control via antiepileptic drugs. Thrombosis is handled similarly. One might even be fortunate enough to have a strong therapeutic response. Psychiatry functions the same way. Antidepressants do not "cure" a disease; they manage symptoms so a person can function effectively. This does not mean every patient requires lifelong therapy; that depends on many variables.
It is identical to how insulin, which a person injects multiple times a day, does not cure diabetes... and I assume the author of said book is aware of this.🤷 It is hardly a state secret.😕

Regardless, try to maintain a positive outlook rather than worrying about the yo-yo effect. I wish you luck and hope you won't need medication ever again. Good luck with your next two months.😉

@urbanfox15
I am sorry about your mother. You are right; a mother is a mother. Based on your post, it seems you two are quite close. Since you mentioned she is currently cognitively sound and lucid, I suggest having an honest conversation with her about the situation. Her illness and upcoming tests don't preclude her from wanting positive changes or a better quality of life. She needs support now more than ever. Talk to her. Ask what she wants, tell her what you need, and let her know you love and support her.

weary29 made a valid point regarding your father. He is clearly set in his ways, and you won't change him. There is no sense in engaging in conflict or subjecting yourself and others to unnecessary stress; it is a waste of energy that yields no results. Focus on your mother and encourage her toward making changes.

Would it perhaps be better if the three of you were on your own? Would that create a healthier, less stressful environment for your mother? Only those living in that household can truly answer that question...

Stay strong.🙂

Douglas King9 said:Yeah, exactly.🙂 Psychologists don't write prescriptions. Just a heads-up for anyone wondering why they aren't walking out with a bottle of meds after a session—it’s just not how the system works here. If you need medication, you've got to see a psychiatrist or a GP. It's a separate lane.🙂 🙂

I’d probably just head to a private psychiatrist and lay it all out during the session. Honestly—one of the doctors at the hospital just wrote it for me without much discussion. Why make it complicated?
Can I do it this way? I don't want to throw money down the drain. Honestly, I’m just not in the headspace to deal with them right now—not for the long haul, anyway. I just need some time to clear my head... I'm going through a massive crisis in my life at the moment.

If you have any previous medical records, bring them with you.
That said, a primary care physician can prescribe something like Lexapro and provide a private prescription immediately.
But all of that is just a workaround; one must be genuinely careful.

Douglas King9 said:Hey everyone...
If I go see a private psychiatrist or psychologist, will they actually write me a prescription for Helix?

Please, I need an answer fast—I really don't want to end up in a hospital, it’s just not an option right now.

Thanks guys🙂)

A psychologist can't even write a prescription, and while a psychiatrist can and will, they'll only do so if Helix is clinically indicated for you. A doctor determines the treatment, not the patient.😉

Mark Nelson said:27,06

By all means, go ahead and follow whatever diet you deem most suitable for yourself. Naturally, ensure you include physical activity as well.

Mark Nelson said:Hey everyone. Quick question—is it actually safe for me to try the keto diet? I’m sitting at over 175 lbs and 5'7", but I am currently on Zoloft and Seroquel. I guess I just wonder if those meds mess with things too much. Thanks in advance.

How tall are you, though? What's your BMI?