Posts by Jesse Hughes6

The fallout from measles in kids is pretty much on par with what you see after they deal with COVID.

Right now, if you use terms like "bunker dwellers," "coviders," or "mask enthusiasts," you’re basically asking for a moderator ban.
It’s funny how they don't seem to care when people start labeling everyone else as irrelevant or marginal, though. That seems perfectly fine by their standards.
#newnormal
#pandemicisHere

You aren't... and then comes the inevitable "but" for 5, 4, 3...

Andrew Booth29 said:But really, what even is the definition of an infection?

A positive PCR test after 35, 40, 50, or however many cycles it takes to get there.

Look, he didn't just vanish into thin air in Australia after three months, so what exactly are we even talking about here?

wiredjackal9 said:Of course they aren't all on an assembly line; it’s common knowledge that those workers don't even have easy access to a computer. But when you deal with deadline-driven roles, it's a completely different story—heaven forbid someone actually finishes their work ahead of schedule, regardless of how many hours they put in.

If there were any actual incentive for hitting a target early, I don't doubt people would do it.
Since there isn't, I don't see any issue with people just meeting their deadlines exactly when they're supposed to.

Amanda Diaz said:No. You’re just acting like this federal recovery fund—which is basically nothing more than American charity—is some kind of groundbreaking miracle, and you actually think everyone else sees it that way too.

Quincy:

I don't know what you want from me. What exactly am I supposed to do with just a username? Are we playing games now? Give me something real to work with. kaže: I don't get why you won't just stop at the first part of your post and admit you're right. Why isn't your entire argument based on the fact that people actually need to put in the work to make progress and fix things? By adding this second half, you're just contradicting everything you said in the beginning.

I’ve been thinking about this for a long time: since the war ended, this country has essentially split into two different worlds. You have one small faction that embraced capitalism and views the USA simply as a massive marketplace. Then you have the much larger group that stayed stuck in a socialist mindset. They look at both the capitalists and the USA as nothing more than a cash cow—something they can milk dry until they eventually have to either beg for scraps or face the consequences.
Look, the first part doesn't contradict the second. It just highlights the two types of people living in this country: the freeloaders and the workers. The problem is that the ratio is constantly shifting in favor of the freeloaders, and they’re the ones voting for this kind of government.
Amanda Diaz:

I don't know what to tell you. Is anyone actually listening anymore? It feels like we're just shouting into a void while everything falls apart around us. Why does it always have to be this way? kaže: If you look at how this forum peaks during business hours, maybe that’s actually part of the problem.

I don't know about you and your habit of writing during business hours, but I'm the only one who ends up feeling the consequences of that kind of work.

And let's be real, not everyone is clocking in on an assembly line or standing behind a cash register; plenty of people work based on deliverables and deadlines rather than just counting their hours.

So?
What, we actually got to travel like decent human beings for seven years straight, and now we’re back to being treated like cattle? I guess this is just the #newnormal now.

Yeah, we generally need visas to get into the USA anyway.

Amanda Diaz said:The same Supreme Court that ruled everything was fine, even though Article 17 couldn't be any clearer?

Maybe one day the majority will finally wake up and realize what that task force and a few political cronies in that court have actually done. I doubt it, but I'll leave that possibility open.

Personally, I always find myself quietly relying on some middle schooler’s haiku about gorillas in the jungle: "No gorilla owns the night."

Alexander Thompson said:I mean, she should have just said she was heading to a wedding instead.

Or maybe just going to church.

So I'm scrolling through Index : Quote right now:

The permits are still a thing.

"We’re going to broaden the criteria for why they're issued. They aren't going away, but we'll expand the scope based on how the epidemic trends look. As for retail, the CDC will be putting together some recommendations. We expect to double down on that," he noted.

He basically explained that if someone is traveling from somewhere like Cleveland down to the coast, they’ll get a permit. So, as he put it, they stay in play, they're just becoming easier to get.

"We aren't rushing this. We’ll lift restrictions as much as possible while maintaining maximum caution," he said a bit later.

Jerry Robinson56 said:Please suggest something... I haven't been following the situation "over there" could you provide a link. I suspect you might have conflated two different things, or perhaps I wasn't clear enough... quarantine protocols have been established since the days of the early American colonies 😁 though even the British had their own isolated outposts back then.
Limiting movement within the home is a sound approach.

You missed the point entirely.
The guy was trying to explain that back during the era of those maritime republics, it wasn't the locals being quarantined, but the foreigners coming in.
You’re just way too caught up in your own theories to catch the slight hint of irony in his message.

Jerry Robinson56 said:I wouldn't go that far... your premises are flawed. It wasn't possible to freeze the situation in place; at best, one could only attempt to move toward a state of heightened vigilance. When you are dealing with incompetent bureaucrats and opportunists, such as that individual from Chicago, you simply cannot expect to rely on those tasked with implementation. For instance, they didn't even have a functioning computer in the facility... which is perfectly consistent with that idiot's track record.

The virus is everywhere around us; the only variables are the viral load, the duration of the virus's lifespan, and the strength of one's immune system. If it doesn't reach the lungs, it isn't nearly as dangerous.
Naturally, there is always the possibility of exaggeration... that things aren't quite as dire as presented. However, I find myself disinclined to believe that.

The virus isn't just floating around us.
A virus lives inside an infected person.

Adam Collins4 said:That bit of info is actually huge—it tells us a lot about how resilient the virus is against external factors...

Which means we can finally push back against the idiots claiming this is just like the flu. I mean, how long does the flu virus even hang around on surfaces? Exactly...

Then there's the infectivity rate. With the flu, you're looking at a max of maybe 1.7, whereas with this mess, we're talking a max of 4...

But of course, that doesn't stop the geniuses from insisting this is just a seasonal flu.

You’re barking up the wrong tree here. I have five kids...

And I haven't put them—or any elderly folks nearby—in any kind of danger...not even slightly.

It just seems like the crowd shouting that this is "just like the flu" is mostly people who can't handle being away from their girlfriends for a little while—so they start acting like characters out of GTA, talking about breaking lockdowns and causing chaos...

Let them break them. There are fines for that, too.

Viruses are generally incredibly hardy against external elements, mostly because they aren't even "alive" in the traditional sense. The real question isn't about surface survival, but rather when and under what specific conditions this thing becomes infectious. And since we have zero data on this particular strain, anything else is just pure speculation, so no, we can't draw any meaningful conclusions from such superficial data.

Adam Collins4 said:That bit of info is actually huge—it tells us a lot about how resilient the virus is against external factors...

Which means we can finally push back against the idiots claiming this is just like the flu. I mean, how long does the flu virus even hang around on surfaces? Exactly...

Then there's the infectivity rate. With the flu, you're looking at a max of maybe 1.7, whereas with this mess, we're talking a max of 4...

But of course, that doesn't stop the geniuses from insisting this is just a seasonal flu.

You’re barking up the wrong tree here. I have five kids...

And I haven't put them—or any elderly folks nearby—in any kind of danger...not even slightly.

It just seems like the crowd shouting that this is "just like the flu" is mostly people who can't handle being away from their girlfriends for a little while—so they start acting like characters out of GTA, talking about breaking lockdowns and causing chaos...

Let them break them. There are fines for that, too.

We don't actually know that; we're just making educated guesses for two main reasons:
1. This is our first encounter with this specific strain, so there's no baseline data to pull from.
2. We don't have an accurate count of how many people are actually infected, given that nobody is testing for it.

Adam Collins4 said:That bit of info is actually huge—it tells us a lot about how resilient the virus is against external factors...

Which means we can finally push back against the idiots claiming this is just like the flu. I mean, how long does the flu virus even hang around on surfaces? Exactly...

Then there's the infectivity rate. With the flu, you're looking at a max of maybe 1.7, whereas with this mess, we're talking a max of 4...

But of course, that doesn't stop the geniuses from insisting this is just a seasonal flu.

You’re barking up the wrong tree here. I have five kids...

And I haven't put them—or any elderly folks nearby—in any kind of danger...not even slightly.

It just seems like the crowd shouting that this is "just like the flu" is mostly people who can't handle being away from their girlfriends for a little while—so they start acting like characters out of GTA, talking about breaking lockdowns and causing chaos...

Let them break them. There are fines for that, too.

That response wasn't directed at you; I was quoting the post I was replying to.
For the record, I'm also staying put, though I'm a skeptic by nature, so I maintain a certain level of doubt regarding how information is packaged and presented. I also feel that during that first week when restaurants were ordered to close, I wasn't endangering a single child by walking alone or riding my bike, avoiding crowded playgrounds and stuff like that—all while practicing good hygiene and disinfecting, even if we weren't particularly filthy to begin with.
Now, more and more credible sources—including the WHO—are confirming it: the virus doesn't just float around randomly; it spreads through the saliva of an infected person. Wash your hands and stop touching your eyes and nose with dirty hands.

Adam Collins4 said:Look, once you stop cutting my posts short, maybe we can actually have a conversation...

Until then, bye-bye...

The DP isn't a valid comparison because the sample size is way too small...

People who keep banging their heads against the wall—like you, and whoever else is trying to draw parallels to the flu—are basically ignoring every single fact that proves this has nothing to do with the flu...

From the spread velocity and contagiousness levels to the mortality rates and how fast it progresses... not to mention how long this crap lingers on surfaces...

Since when does any strain of influenza stick around for 9 days?

And so what? We have a lifeless clump of protein and RNA—otherwise known as a virus—settling on a surface and staying there. Who knows. Where exactly is it supposed to go or how is it even meant to vanish?
The real question is how infectious that virus actually is and for how long. And we simply don't know.
The WHO claims transmission happens via droplets, not through aerosolized particles floating in the air or jumping from person to person. So, if you've touched a "contaminated" surface, just don't touch your face and wash your hands.

hollowmason64 said:Exactly, that's just how it is—there’s almost nothing left.
I honestly think about everything people have to endure in life when they're actually pushed to their limits. Here, though, it feels like all this drama is just because people are hitting a breaking point simply because they're back home.
Honestly, the people who complain most are the ones whining about going crazy at home with their kids because "the kids are bored." For crying out loud, entertain them yourself. Talk to them, play with them, read to them... It’s always the same thing. Everyone is constantly bellyaching about work hours or whatever else, claiming they "never have any time for family," but then the second they're actually stuck at home with that very same family, they act like they're losing their minds.

I really, truly hope you're right about this. But honestly, looking at what's happening right in front of me every single day, I can't help but worry that they might actually be correct.
I mean, honestly, folks, I think it should have been pretty obvious from the get-go when the Government immediately decided to provide pay for workers who aren't going to be working for at least three months—with the option to extend that, too. What were people thinking? Did they suddenly assume the government was just going to start throwing money around like they've got endless pockets?

I'm not a medical professional—thank God, because it sounds like they’ve got it even worse than the rest of us—but my work is tied closely to transportation and everything involved in logistics, including all the cross-border stuff.
Every single semi-truck rolling into the country to restock the shelves passes right by my place. Every one of those drivers is coming from out of state, and honestly, any one of them could be carrying the virus. But here’s the thing—they do this job, and I do this job, just so you can have the luxury of picking out specific brands of ground beef or whatever other junk you feel like buying. We keep things moving so you can walk down an aisle and hand-pick exactly which chicken breast you want, yet people still act like staying home is some impossible task.
None of you have any clue how much of a grind it is for people doing jobs like this, but jbte, you just have to try and keep things as normal as possible.
Those poor drivers are on the road for days on end, practically forbidden from even stepping out of their cabs, and they haven't seen their families in ages—who knows how much longer it'll be. They’re essentially living through something reminiscent of the early '90s, except nobody is shooting at them. But still, nobody gives them credit and nobody seems truly grateful for what they're doing.
What do you think? Would they swap places with those who are about to "snap"?
I'm pretty sure they'd make the switch in a heartbeat.

I get that people are scared for their livelihoods, but most people actually have some kind of safety net, even if it's just the bare minimum.
Honestly, nobody is going to starve, because at the very least, we are a really empathetic nation and someone will always find food for someone in need. Everything else can just wait.
Let's just get through this.

We’re doing just fine entertaining ourselves, reading, and playing. We even have a Facebook group for our local preschool where they post all sorts of educational activities.
But obviously, that's all happening inside the house—though luckily we have a patio so he can get some fresh air and run around—and it doesn't come close to playing with peers all day long. He misses his friends, and a kid can't wrap his head around why he isn't allowed outside. Why he can't ride his bike, play with his buddies, go to the beach to throw rocks in the ocean, or just hike in nature. He doesn't understand any of it, and THAT is what makes it hard. It's not difficult because I'm struggling to be home with him. The sheer amount of energy built up during the day is massive with nowhere to burn it off; the kid is frustrated and his moods are constantly shifting. And I'm talking about a relatively mellow child, so I don't even want to imagine what it would be like if he were one of those high-energy types.

James Phillips92 said:It’s simple: when people get hungry. Once the supplies run dry and these clowns in the Government realize they might be facing some serious backlash, that’s when this whole circus will finally wrap up.

I posted something along those lines once, and suddenly I was getting warnings that I could end up behind bars for saying stuff like that.

Bryan Taylor6 said:Why don't they just release the antibody data so we can see how many people recovered without even knowing they had it? What if it's a third of the American population? Then all this panic is just pointless and it's destroying the economy...

You're being naive. It's all about the mantra: test, test, test. But they're only testing for the "presence" of the virus. Nothing else matters to them.