hollowdriver13 said:The regime changes within a country that you're talking about don't actually affect that nation's international borders, right?
Do you honestly believe that after some part of Ukraine has been under Russian control for XX years, someone in Russia is just going to pop up and say, "Oops, sorry we took that from you, here you go, take it back"???
Besides, if this is as harmless as you think it is, how come Russia hasn't managed to get a single country to support its annexations in Crimea or the Donbas—aside from its little puppet states in Syria, Belarus, and North Korea?
Not a single CSTO member, not even China, nor any of those wannabe dictators have backed Russia's moves. Doesn't that ring a massive alarm bell that Russia is doing something completely wrong? It's obvious to everyone else that what Russia is pulling is a direct assault on one of the fundamental pillars of the global order established after WW2 and the UN, along with its charter (which, ironically, Russia loves to cite every chance they get).
History is wild—borders shifting, merging, splitting, breaking apart... when you see how fast things flip, you kind of lose interest in all those "unchangeable" historical and political certainties. At one point, Ukraine was totally dependent, now it isn't—and who knows, maybe one day they’ll integrate parts they lost. Maybe not in our lifetime, but it's possible. It's hard to say what the future even looks like politically, or if what seems like the best option right now will still hold up.
steelfox98 said:With current active wars, Turkey also launched a "police action" in northern Syria just a few days ago. Screaming, whining, sanctions? NOTHING. Zero points.
The best part? They’re attacking Kurds, who are American allies and favorites of the EU. But they aren't important enough.
Out of all the fake moralists on this topic, how many have stepped up? Zero.
We already discussed Yemen. Incomparably more dead, millions starving, and the West is still arming Al-Qaeda types from Saudi Arabia. Apparently, they're dear allies to us all.
That’s a recap of the forum commenters for you.
The drop in standards in the EU is happening because the EU itself started the sanctions, so in typical fashion, you're lying.
1. Neutrality—basically, staying out of NATO.
2. Resolving the conflict in the rebel Donbas. Just as a reminder, Zelenskyy wasn't exactly eager to play ball either; back in early February, when things were already heating up, he refused to even talk to his own fellow citizens from that region. And all while trying to pull them back into Ukraine.
Everything else was just standard high-stakes bargaining. The Ukrainians wouldn't budge, and now they're stuck in a much worse position that isn't going away anytime soon.
Maybe you can explain to me how "military neutrality" works for a NATO member? And please, provide a link to back that up.
Gotta admit, I'm almost jealous of that faith people have in global powers being humane or just plain fair.