Posts by Rachel Barnes5

Amy Richardson86 said:HI EVERYONE,
I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY CHANCE MY NOSE WILL DROP A BIT MORE WITHIN A YEAR OF THE SURGERY. IT'S BEEN 5.5 MONTHS SINCE MY PRIMARY RHINOPLASTY AND, HONESTLY, MY NOSE LOOKS TOO SHORT. I'M PRAYING FOR A MIRACLE—THAT IT MIGHT LENGTHEN JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.
Hope is all I have...
I DON'T WANT TO END UP WITH A BUTTON NOSE😢

Yes, the nose continues to settle for up to a full year after surgery.
I noticed a fairly significant shift in how much my nose dropped around the 6 to 8-month mark. Regardless, I wouldn't say I'm completely thrilled with my result, but there was still a noticeable downward movement.
Be patient and wait until the one-year mark before you try to judge the final outcome.😉

Megan Wright39 said:I told him before the surgery that I wanted the most subtle result possible, and honestly, he went above and beyond. I’ll admit, I’m rambling a bit here, but those people who aren't happy with Glumičić are likely just deeply insecure and chasing impossible standards. The man is truly the king of rhinoplasty.☕

I’m sorry, but I absolutely disagree.😉
I had my nose done by Glumičić, and honestly, I’m even less happy with the results than I was before the surgery.
The issue is that she’s opting for a cookie-cutter look. She’s lowering the bridge, making the nose look "washed out" in profile, and over-elevating the tip. On her specific face—with those large eyes, full lips, and a somewhat square jawline—that nose just doesn't harmonize with her other features, even if the profile looks softer.
It works for some people and fails for others. As I’ve already pointed out, that specific nose shape was common about twenty years ago, but it’s considered outdated now—which is exactly why so many people end up seeking revision surgery.

A surgeon who churns out cookie-cutter noses using the exact same template—someone whose work you can recognize instantly on any face, famous or otherwise—is a hack. If they’re just shortening a nose without actually considering the patient's unique features, they aren't a real surgeon in my book.
Personally, I’m not a fan of those "celebrity" noses. Take Taylor Swift’s first nose—not enough cartilage—or look at Hrgin, blankin, Petra Dugandžić, and the rest. They just don't work for me.
I won't even bother discussing the various bumps and irregularities that can appear on the nose following surgery. These issues are clearly visible in other patients as well, and they are quite obviously the result of overly aggressive or insufficiently skilled—perhaps even rushed—cartilage resection.

If anyone's into that sharp, pointy nose aesthetic, go ahead.
That being said, we really need to emphasize that he must consider how that nose will actually sit on his face.
Disappointment can be massive. Not every surgeon possesses the necessary eye for detail; most find it much easier to simply go through the motions and perform the job routinely.
Just a quick heads-up: think long and hard about what you actually want when you're considering nose surgery—or any facial contouring, for that matter. You need to consider how one feature affects the entire look of your face.

Kate Lee43 said:So, looking at Iva Jerkovic, Lorena Nosic, Iva Šaric, Tihana Runje, Jelena Šimić, Brankica Čonda, Marko Grubnić, Indira Mujkic, Marija Cvitanovic, Lejila Sehovic, Ivana Hoty, Ecija Ojdanic... Now I sound like I’m defending Glumicic or some kind of propaganda mouthpiece, but honestly, he really does have a knack for the aesthetic side of things. A friend of mine came over with a photo of a model with a small nose; he explained the symmetry of her lips, eyes, and cheekbones, and convinced her that her current nose was too small for her face. Now she has a perfectly balanced, beautiful nose. He prefers that slightly chiseled profile, though personally, I think it’s a lovely feminine look. I’m telling you, women walk into clinics showing him photos of Severina or Angelina, insisting on those exact nose shapes.
I'm well-informed because I interact with the same demographic through other channels.

Some of the women mentioned have beautiful noses, but I am not a fan of the specific nose styles he has given to several famous women.
Severina (her first nose), Nina Morić, Blanka, Josipa Pavičić... And both Nevenov and Markov have noses that are far too small and overly feminine.
Judging by the posts here, my own observations, and conversations with women on various forums who have had work done, the consensus is that Glumicic tends to follow a template. It's always the same classic: lift the tip and depress the bridge, often without considering the rest of the facial lines. A frequent issue is that he removes too much cartilage.

A good nose needs to be in balance with one's facial features. The "less is more" rule doesn't apply here, nor can you judge a nose in isolation; it shouldn't be the centerpiece of the face. In fact, my definition of a beautiful nose is one that integrates seamlessly, drawing attention to other attractive features rather than the nose itself.
A surgeon who cannot achieve that isn't a great surgeon.😉
I'm not trying to drag anyone down, but this is my critical assessment of his extensive body of work. This opinion is rooted in my own experience and firsthand accounts from others, which haven't been particularly positive either. Most people point to very similar aesthetic issues and a highly recognizable "signature" style.
Then again, taste is subjective; everyone knows what they want for themselves.
Unfortunately, I can't say I consider him a master of rhinoplasty. I wish I could. There.🙂

Kate Lee43 said:She was 100% clear. She told him exactly what she wanted and he followed her instructions to a T. This reputation he has is total nonsense; our girls just don't want to admit they were actually looking for that specific look—small, upturned, very Hollywood style.
In person, she looks even better. We all know how much photos depend on lighting and angles...

Her nose looks quite natural. However, I wouldn't go so far as to say that women who end up with a snubbed nose after surgery by Glumicic were specifically asking for that small, upturned look.

Quite the opposite—plenty of them explicitly asked for something else, only to walk away with an over-operated nose that looks just like Blankin's. You can see the evidence in the posts here, and in the sheer number of people needing corrective surgery from other surgeons.
Besides, that "upturned" look hasn't been the standard in Hollywood for twenty years now.
Honestly, her nose is a massive upgrade compared to the other famous noses he tends to butcher.
That’s just my honest take.😉

Maria Hall92 said:One single surgery is more than enough for everyone to get the nose they want. That’s exactly what it's for. It's about surgeries, not perfection.Aside from a few rare exceptions, I’ve only ever had one surgery—well, twice if you count the accident. And let’s be real, it's not like we're all mindless; nobody is just staring at him.

Hmm... whether they look better now or just less aesthetically pleasing than before really depends on who you ask.😉
All jokes aside, you really shouldn't even consider rhinoplasty unless you have an exceptionally large or prominent nose. I've learned my lesson: don't go nitpicking small details. Trying to fix things that aren't actually broken can easily end up making everything much worse than when you started.
There really ought to be an option to undergo a revision if the primary surgery doesn't yield the desired results. Unfortunately, I don't have much confidence that our surgeons here in the States are actually qualified to handle something that complex.😢
At least when we're talking about what qualifies as true aesthetic refinement, it goes far beyond just getting a hump shaved off a nose or a rhinoplasty.
I am relatively dissatisfied with my primary rhinoplasty. I truly want to give this a second chance, but I am prepared to wait as long as necessary to find the best possible solution—even if that means looking far beyond the borders of the US.
I really don't want to go through a reoperation ten times over. Honestly, I’m just hoping there’s still a real chance for things to be fixed.😉

@steelangler88/">@@steelangler88, your nose looks completely natural in those photos. Honestly, it’s perfectly normal to have some swelling given that they had to use cartilage grafting.
You already know that you need to give it some time before you can actually see results. I'm hoping that, ultimately, you'll be satisfied with the outcome. At the end of the day, we are our own best judges when it comes to what we like or dislike.

Sophia Booth35 said:Here’s how it plays out: the doctor builds you a "computerized" nose, you get excited, they knock you out, start digging around, and then realize there isn't enough material to actually build what you both imagined. You wake up with a completely different nose, fall into a deep depression, and sue the doctor for fraud.
I read an article about this once.

In the US, nobody performs these procedures without computer simulations. Of course, the final result won't match the digital model down to the last milimetar, but the simulation exists to bridge the gap between surgeon and patient and ensure everyone is on the same page regarding aesthetics.
The patient's desires have to come first, which requires careful, detailed consultation.

What does it accomplish for a surgeon to simply tell a patient they'll make their nose smaller or more graceful? Communication is everything. You can't effectively communicate about facial structure if you don't have a visual framework for what "slightly lowering the tip" actually looks like. When we're talking about the face, milimetar matters immensely.

jadedriver0 said:Basically, Glumičić is a great listener and a true gentleman. In my experience, he hasn't messed anything up once—thank God. The real issue is that women don't listen to him; they just demand what they have in their heads, even when it’s physically impossible given their facial structure...

From my own experience, I can tell you that the consultations are far too short. He promises the nose will look more graceful and refined, yet he does so without any computer simulations or digital modeling. In this day and age, I find it unacceptable for any surgeon to operate without such tools. Just saying, "We'll lower it a bit, lift it a bit, and you'll be happier"...🙄
That isn't enough. You can't even get a rough idea of the final result. From what I can gather, many patients end up dissatisfied because he lifts the nose too much, creating a "cookie-cutter" look that lacks sufficient cartilage—much like what happened with Blanka. While some might actually like that style, I personally find that approach completely lacking. 👎
My advice to anyone considering this is simple: do not let a doctor design your nose based solely on his own whims. You know what you want better than anyone, and if it's realistic, a competent surgeon should be able to deliver it.
Otherwise, you run the risk of massive disappointment. Many of our "celebrity" doctors base their aesthetic standards on media hype, while the actual results remain mediocre or simply underwhelming.

Maria Hall92 said:And what exactly are cartilage grafts?

Since I was the one who brought up grafts, let me clarify 😉.
Essentially, these are small pieces of cartilage—sourced from the ear, rib, or septum—that are precisely cut and used during revision surgeries, though sometimes even primary ones.
The purpose is to "rebuild" or add volume to specific areas of the nose, such as the tip, the bridge, or the nostrils. Naturally, the cartilage must come from the patient undergoing the procedure 😁, otherwise the body would reject it.
Synthetic implants are an alternative, but they carry a significantly higher risk of infection.
I hope you won't end up needing them.

Maria Hall92 said:I honestly have no clue what she actually did to the tip of my nose; I just know it didn't look like this after the accident. Basically, she messed something up. My nose is the same size, but the bridge is flatter than before (and it’s still not even, unfortunately 😢).

It’s obvious she was working on the tip itself if the shape changed following the surgery.
You should seek out multiple consultations and compare your pre-op and post-op photos, because I doubt you'll be able to get your surgical records easily now. You need to be able to identify exactly what changed.
On the bright side, if the goal is simply to reduce the size and you don't think you'll need any structural augmentation, it shouldn't be overly complicated.
However, if the nose is deviating to one side, things get trickier—especially if you require cartilage grafts or if too much tissue was removed, which is unfortunately common after primary rhinoplasties.🙄

steelangler88 said:Yeah, I’ve got grafts everywhere and my incision is wide open. Regardless, it looks bizarre to me, and I wouldn't bet on it being "subdued" enough to flatten out! It’s been a month already and it still looks MASSIVE. I'm at a loss.😢

Hang in there...🙂 Just let time take its course. From everything I've read about similar procedures, the whole recovery process is long, and you can't judge the final result after only a month. You'll see; there's still plenty of time.
It's tough when we don't have surgeons who specialize exclusively in rhinoplasty.👎
I honestly don't know what the smartest move is when dealing with aesthetic issues, especially during a revision. Sigh...

After my first surgery, I ended up with a lump on the left side. Now, after the second one, there’s a lump on the right. So, where does that leave me? I’d like to know if there is any actual chance this is just swelling that will eventually subside, though based on past experience, I’m not holding my breath.😢
AAAAA!!!!
Bottom line: don't get rhinoplasty.🙏

I’m still holding out hope that the final outcome of your surgery turns out to be both acceptable and satisfying for you.🙂
If they used grafts, he’ll likely need some time for everything to settle properly—especially if they performed an open procedure. Don't start panicking just yet.

My conclusion is simple: I have zero confidence in our surgeons.😢
They might be able to reduce the size of a nose, but I have my doubts about whether they can actually achieve a natural look using grafts.🤷
I’ve heard some women mention having positive experiences with surgeons like Zambelli, but honestly, it all feels like hearsay to me. Why on earth don't we have any specialists focused on secondary rhinoplasty? It's frustrating.
It looks like my only option is to wait for things to shift and hope I can make the move to the States. Over there, they actually perform audits on a daily basis.😢
I am fully aware of the cost involved, and I need to weigh all my options carefully. That said, I’m inclined to avoid taking excessive risks here. Unless, of course, someone feels strongly enough to talk sense into me. 😁

Look, I don’t know exactly which bumps or irregularities you’re all referring to, but I have a small bump on the tip of my nose following my primary surgery as well. This happens because the cartilage is sometimes shortened or removed too aggressively during the procedure; if your skin is thin, that underlying cartilage can actually poke through, creating that little bump.
This can be resolved by using morselized grafts, but the surgeon needs to be highly experienced with that specific procedure.🤦

Amanda Morris76 said:Honestly, this shape is just perfect to me. Besides, the results Glumičić produces look great, so why is he blacklisted on this forum?

I wouldn't go so far as to say Glumičić (or anyone else) is specifically on a "blacklist," but... there are plenty of women here sharing their experiences after rhinoplasty who ended up dissatisfied—or conversely, thrilled with the outcome.
As for taste... everyone is different.
My personal take is that I don't care for that "universal tip shape"—you know, those recognizable patterns certain surgeons seem to favor. To me, it feels like they're just mass-producing noses. Personally, I'm not a fan of forcing a nose to be strictly upturned or "Barbie-style." That specific aesthetic, like what you see on characters like Ejšan from Ezel😁, doesn't suit every face.😉
That would be my main critique regarding this particular surgeon, and I doubt I'm the first person to raise similar concerns about him or many others.
For me, a nose shouldn't be a standout ornament on the face; it should integrate harmoniously and subtly with all other features to create a cohesive whole. 🙂

Carol Diaz31 said:I’m truly sorry you had such a bad experience👎 but here’s a little encouragement... try not to lose hope or jump straight to thinking about another surgery just yet. Give it a few months; things might still settle or change.

The part that baffles me most is that he didn't give you a receipt. 😕
Without one, I'm not sure how you can even attempt to ask for a refund... unless you paid by credit card, in which case you at least have some kind of "proof."

I had the exact same issue. Glumicic didn't provide me with a receipt either (this was two and a half years ago). Ultimately, my nose looks decent enough, but it isn't quite what I wanted, and I honestly feel it suited my face much better before the procedure. So, it’s a step backward for me, because Glumicic clearly works with off-the-shelf results—with rare exceptions, of course. My advice to women is to insist on a receipt every single time. In my opinion, it should be illegal for a doctor to withhold a receipt from a patient for services rendered.

What was your thinking here?

I felt my nose looked too "over-operated." It’s leaning toward being too upturned, which looks unnatural because of the excessive symmetry.
It might not even look that bad given my soft features, but I was significantly more satisfied when my nose had a bit more volume.

I haven't seen such glaringly bad results on any of our local surgeons' websites. 🤷

The changes in these photos aren't drastic, and most local surgeons only showcase profile shots where the nose is overly lifted. We don't get a true front-facing view of how the nose actually integrates with the face. A softer profile doesn't automatically mean it suits the person better.😉
That is exactly my situation.

If you look at the comments here, it seems everyone thinks those narrow, upturned, artificial Barbie noses are ideal. 🤷

Yes, I see that. Honestly, it surprises me, because in the US, those kinds of noses are usually heading in for revision surgery. People seek out corrections to make their noses look more natural and to tone down that overly upturned look. That style was popular thirty years ago; today, the trend is toward a natural aesthetic. Personally, I have zero interest in a "cute" nose.
Even if there are specialists in America qualified for secondary rhinoplasty, I wouldn't even know who to turn to, since the preference remains focused on those tiny, cookie-cutter noses.
There are certainly exceptions, but they aren't common. I'd say we are still catching up when it comes to certain aesthetic surgery standards.

Of course, surgeons in the States aren't perfect either; there are plenty of uncertified doctors out there using aggressive marketing and flashy ads. You have to do your own research.👍

stormyharbor2 said:, and frankly, I’d probably be kicked out of a surgeon's office immediately if I asked them why they believe closed techniques are superior. Since I lack any surgical background, asking such a question would likely get me shown the door, 😬 🤣 but I’m naturally inquisitive—it’s just how I am. 🤷

It’s true; patients are often too intimidated to ask questions or seek information 😉, while many surgeons carry themselves like deities or infallible professors. That ego is exactly where communication breaks down. My impression is that people are terrified to pose the awkward, necessary questions that actually matter.

Ultimately, open and closed approaches differ significantly, and a surgeon needs extensive experience in both. In my view, many surgeons here haven't truly mastered the open technique, which is why they avoid it—the method itself carries inherent risks. It's more about operating from the outside and then closing everything up. Still, the reality isn't as dire as it sounds.😁

Most patients in the US undergo rhinoplasty because they feel their nose is too large, crooked, or wide. For those cases, the closed technique and primary rhinoplasty are standard.
However, you occasionally run into someone who ends up dissatisfied with having a nose that is too small (oddly enough, who actually wants a larger nose? 😂), and then they face a new problem: trying to find a qualified surgeon willing to "add" volume without being a guinea pig for an inexperienced doctor.🤣 There are also the complications of internal scarring from the initial surgery to contend with, which requires much more expertise to manage.

As for noses that have been broken multiple times, there's no universal rule; a thorough examination is mandatory. Regarding reconstruction, the open technique and grafts are used in roughly 90% of cases abroad. While a skilled surgeon's assessment is the deciding factor, that is the general landscape.😉

stormyharbor2 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZRXYF6FvXM

Incredible.😲 It’s a law of nature. Her nose is shaped similar to mine, though mine is actually worse because my tip sits lower while hers sits right where it should relative to the base.

This is from a doctor's page.

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😕 Everyone’s gone downhill lately. What the hell happened?

Just more proof that tastes vary.😉
Sure, there are better examples of rhinoplasty in the States, but in my opinion, these results are miles ahead of what you see most of the time back home.
The goal of rhinoplasty isn't to overhaul someone's entire face. It’s about crafting a nose that actually complements their features. We need to move away from those overly dramatic, "cookie-cutter" upturned noses—that dated look from the 70s and 80s that some American surgeons still insist on performing with such misplaced pride.
Exceptions prove the rule.😉

To be honest, some of these nose jobs performed by local celebrities are just terrible—completely unnecessary and way too short. Take Zanemari Lalic, for instance; after that last surgery, the result was a mess. The same goes for Blankin. It’s like they’re just using a cookie-cutter template to shrink the nose without giving a single thought to the person's actual facial features.
Then again, it all comes down to personal preference. Personally, I much prefer results where you can't actually tell any work was done—where the nose just looks natural and fits the face seamlessly.
So, when some surgeon tells me "the nose should be the centerpiece of the face," I know exactly what kind of person I'm dealing with. 😁

rustygardener172 said:Regarding open versus closed techniques... The open method was the original standard for nose surgery. Closed technique is newer; it wasn't used this way in the past. Now, the closed approach has become common practice, while the open method is reserved for more complex cases. There’s a reason the industry shifted toward closed—recovery is significantly easier and you don't deal with visible scarring. I realize I’m just rambling here, as I'm certainly no medical expert, nor is the girl claiming the open method is superior. 😁

In the two years since my own nose surgery—which, frankly, I don't consider a success—I have researched open and closed techniques extensively, specifically looking at the standards used in the US.
It is common knowledge that complex aesthetic procedures are performed "across the pond," and that there are specialists who focus specifically on secondary rhinoplasties (which requires immense experience). In fact, most dissatisfied Europeans travel to the States specifically for revision surgery.
I have also read comments from local surgeons here who claim that open rhinoplasty is largely obsolete and rarely used nowadays.
That is simply false. Most top-tier surgeons abroad still utilize open rhinoplasty, particularly when dealing with noses that have been over-shortened or excessively depressed, where cartilage grafts are necessary.
The logic is simple: an open rhinoplasty provides excellent visibility of the internal nasal structure, allowing for precise graft placement. This is a stark contrast to closed rhinoplasty, where the surgeon is essentially working "blind."
Ultimately, it all comes down to selecting a qualified surgeon. I followed the blog of a woman who was absolutely devastated by her first surgery—her nose was too short and lumpy—but after a second procedure via open rhinoplasty with a specialist, her results were excellent and the scar is invisible.

So, I find it baffling that surgeons in America 😕 insist that open rhinoplasty is outdated and no longer used by the global surgical community. Based on everything I have researched and the experiences of people seeking revisions abroad... the vast majority underwent open rhinoplasty. While the recovery might be longer, the results are much more predictable and the scarring is negligible.
On the other hand, if a nose needs further shortening following an initial surgery, using a closed technique would be the logical choice.

I realize I've written quite a bit here😁, but I hope this information proves useful to someone. Be extremely careful about whom you choose as your surgeon. Please, keep sharing your experiences.😉

stormyharbor2 said:I agree. Honestly, it’s probably best to get this handled abroad—maybe in the US, which was my suggestion. My case isn't simple, and if they mess it up here, I don't have anyone to turn to.

I'm on the same page. I've posted about this before, and I am deeply dissatisfied with my own rhinoplasty. To be blunt, I regret ever going through with it.
The reality is that about 90% of our surgeons here still use a universal template for noses, much like they did thirty years ago. While risk exists everywhere, failing to utilize computer simulations in this day and age is simply unacceptable.
Just look at how long some of these procedures take—barely thirty minutes and they call it a day?🙄
It’s no wonder the results are sloppy. When the time comes, I’ll likely consider a revision overseas, specifically in the US.
I need an "upgrade." From the front, the tip feels far too lifted, and the bridge is overly recessed.
Rhinoplasty is a discipline where millimeters are everything.

Given the experiences many people have had with nose jobs in America—and even more so with revisions—it's clear that many practitioners aren't even competent enough for primary surgeries, let alone secondary ones. Regardless of a lower price tag, you really have to ask yourself if the risk is worth it.

Kimberly Baker13 said:Did you tell Glumičić EXACTLY what kind of nose you wanted, or did you just leave it up to him to decide based on his own judgment?

In short, I told him I didn't want anything drastic, especially after he tried to convince me that nobody would even notice a difference. He was supposed to just slightly lower the bridge and shorten the tip. The issue is that I was reckless enough to agree to it.
I wouldn't call my nose a disaster, but it definitely doesn't look natural, which is the whole point. The tip is turned up way too much.
Honestly, surgeons shouldn't be cranking out these cookie-cutter noses without respecting an individual's facial structure.
A girl from Italy actually reached out to me; she’s dealing with the exact same issue after getting her nose done by him.

Anyway, it is what it is. I don't think I've ruined his reputation, but I have every right to speak up about my experience and express my dissatisfaction. Plus, his consultations are incredibly brief and there isn't any computer simulation involved.
The result will be softer... but not enough for me.

So, before committing to any surgery, think it through. Be extremely specific about what you want, don't just fall for the promise of "looking better," and actually research the surgeon's specific style.
Personally, I am not a fan of his work, and flashy advertising isn't everything.

Back on topic, let's hear about your more recent experiences.😉

Preventing a youthful look in later years?🙄
Give me a break. As if we’re going to care about our nose shape when we're 75 and dealing with an already weathered face.
Reading the posts here, I got the impression that Ostojić was a solid choice for noses, which is why I regretted not considering him instead of Glumičić. Turns out they’re both cut from the same cloth.
It is frankly unacceptable that surgeons in this country don't utilize computer simulations before surgery, and instead insist on chasing that tiny nose aesthetic from the 70s and 80s.
It’s probably easier for them than actually worrying about looking natural.👎

For anyone in a similar situation considering revision surgery, I’m offering this advice in good faith: calm down first. Don't let initial impressions drive you. Let time take its course and avoid making impulsive decisions about a second procedure.
That doesn't mean you should just give up and settle, but you need to be extremely cautious during selection. Secondary corrections involving cartilage grafts—specifically because too much was done the first time—are significantly more difficult than a standard rhinoplasty or simple refinements.

There is a dedicated thread on the forum regarding secondary nose surgery (revision) where several women have shared their personal experiences.
It might be useful for someone in a similar predicament to consult them.🙂