Posts by analogheron19

Or check out the blood drive happening over on Peter III between 11 AM and 3 PM👍
Just a quick way to see who actually has the guts to step up.😁

Word is they might arrest him tomorrow... and then, if God wills it... we could potentially be celebrating around the "Remke" area in just a few days.👍

Why should I consider Real Madrid anything more than just a bunch of managers looking to collect a paycheck, coaches who stick around until a bigger offer comes along, or players who stay only until they land a multi-million dollar transfer... all while ignoring the fans who have been there since day one?
I refuse to give them the satisfaction of claiming they represent Real Madrid any more than I do. I’m the one who’s been a constant through all these years. I’m the one who kept pushing even when it felt like hitting a brick wall, wandering through the wilderness for years knowing full well that fines, bans, and being kicked out were always waiting around the corner...
To me, this team is what it is as long as I still feel even a shred of love for it.

Scott Smith93 said:What kind of bullshit are you talking about? Go ahead, debunk me point by point. Tell me exactly where I got it wrong.

The only thing I’m itching to do right now is crack heads—specifically the heads of these people who spend years shitting all over forums and Facebook just to whine about their "perfect" version of Real Madrid. They wouldn't even set foot in the stadium if the club was run with the efficiency of Bayern Munich. These guys are always the loudest and most aggressive behind a keyboard. It’s always "Mamić this" and "Mamić that," just constant, mindless vitriol. Then, when that bastard finally leaves Real Madrid one day, these same losers will just invent some brand-new excuse to stay home instead of showing up to a game. Try posting anything on the main thread that actually contradicts their little echo chamber bullshit, and you'll get banned within five minutes. This specific thread is the only bastion of freedom left against the absolute cultists running wild on the internet.

Full support to everyone heading out to the stadium and filling up every single seat in the house. As for those people who are pathologically bitter about the state of Real Madrid—the ones who have turned complaining into a full-time mental hobby where they just nitpick everything that moves—you can all go screw yourselves. Honestly. You’ve become part of the problem instead of being part of the solution.

Hey there.

I’m talking about someone hiding behind a burner account to stir up trouble.

Scott Smith93 said:Seriously, which side am I even on? I’d love to know.

Is it Tatičar, some random ghost, Sovic, or Mamić?

It’s crazy how much people attack anyone who actually has the guts to say what everyone else sees: this group hasn't managed—physically, spiritually, mentally, or organizationally—to kick Mamić out of the club for over ten years. They haven't. It simply hasn't happened. In a decade, failing to do that can only be called one thing: a total defeat. The current generation of Bad Boys needs to learn from that failure. If you’re going to strike, you have to be radical, fast, surgical, and effective. If you step into a fight, you better make sure you win, or don't bother showing up at all. Wait, get stronger, think it through, then hit hard. The Frontier fell in a day and a half after we spent three years prepping for it. All these "tiki-taka" delusions from various frauds have nearly destroyed the group, burned out the new generations, gutted our numbers, and neutered our effectiveness. So, just let today's kids do their thing. Let them celebrate goals, wins, and players; let them cheer and grow as a unit. Let them carry whatever banners they want for whoever they want. Without that, there's nothing. That's the foundation. Without a crowd, you have nothing, and building a crowd takes time and stability. I just hope someone doesn't try to call for another boycott right about now.

This is a solid post and I'm leaving it alone.
People can write whatever they want as long as they bring arguments and don't go around calling people out while hiding behind a screen name.
And all this repetitive nonsense like "...let the kids be..." or "...the kids inherited this..." or "...the kids aren't responsible for the sins of the past..." and so on and so forth.
It’s all just baseless garbage.
Who is anyone defending by saying they should "go their own way"?
Every single generation of leaders has taken over this group when things were already "sink or swim." Everyone knew what they were getting into, and everyone knows there are skeletons in the closet.
...
Has anyone ever forced someone to take over the group? Has anyone ever stepped up against their will?
If you don't have the strength or the desire to take credit for the wins AND responsibility for the losses... then you don't belong in the front lines.
Anyone constantly whining about "legacy" or "inheritance"... they shouldn't even be looking for a spot in this group.
The backseat drivers and lawyers need to just move on and leave people alone.

Kyle Campbell4 said:The guy isn't just some idiot.

Tom keeps trying to scrub him from the board, but the guy is relentless. Every single post follows the exact same script: admitting defeat with his head bowed, claiming Mamić will leave on his own so until then we just support the club and the guys, and throwing out those half-threats about how the fan groups won't exist if they don't leave the kids alone to go cheer. This whole "old school" routine is a total throwback. It’s exactly how one very well-known faction used to talk. I see the years passing, soon it'll be decades, but in their heads, nothing has changed. If someone screws you over once, they’re going to do it again. And anyone lacking the brains or the sense to see that is doomed to watch history repeat itself. Scott Smith93, you’d have better luck trying to fit a key into a lock than getting under the same umbrella with people like that again.

I know he's not an idiot, but his only goal is to stir the pot and talk trash...
Let him show who he actually is first, then maybe I'll let him talk like that—once he actually stands behind his own garbage.

Roger Thomas7 said:Look, you know exactly when the whole idea of a joint protest in Washington, D.C. went south and why it failed. That guy from Seattle—shadowwolf15—his crowd stayed suspiciously quiet back then, so please, don't come around here now trying to spin this nonsense as something it isn't.

To be perfectly honest... I haven't the slightest clue when or why. It’s just a shame.

shadowwolf15 said:I know my people have been suggesting this forever, even up until today.
Why don't you guys just get organized together so you can actually make an impact in the media?
Nobody else gives a damn about this besides us.

It’s honestly baffled me all this time why we haven't pushed for changes to the Sports Act together, or why we haven't gone about Founding a joint supporters association and hitting the streets with one unified voice...
We're all in the same boat here. Some of us are more deep in it than others, but we're all smoking the same stuff...

bluebear42 said:analogheron19, you should run for office in Washington, D.C. and get into Congress. That’s the only way we actually move the fight onto their home turf. Same goes for Seattle and Miami—if we get at least three representatives from those spots, our voices might actually carry some weight. Then, over time, we can start influencing the very laws they’re using to try and ban us. Right now, even small-time crooks are messing with court rulings (just look at that Daravurac mess), so imagine what the actual mafia can do when they basically own the government. In my view, the only way out is a two-pronged attack: pressure them through grassroots associations and hit them in Congress so they actually feel the heat.

PS: Just like how you absolutely destroyed Vrba on RTL, that's exactly how we need to tear them apart in Congress.

Our struggle won't mean a damn thing until every single fan group stands up together against the criminals.
We’ve had so many chances, so many excuses, and so many opportunities... but we blew it all. We just kept scoring own goals.
Honestly? We’re all getting exactly what we deserve.

Jonathan Edwards8 said:LOL

What’s the actual difference between mercenaries who were "just" cheering for their club, playing for the badge, and celebrating trophies, according to your logic?

It isn't just about the players; it includes the coaches too. They are all part of the organization!

Sure, things might be different today, but if you think it's perfectly fine to "root" for people who shake hands with criminals, then you really need to take a hard look at your own values, your principles, and your entire way of life.

They aren't supporting criminals; they’re supporting their bosses, their CEOs, or their presidents. And let's be real—their main focus is naturally on their paychecks, their bonuses, and their transfer fees...
It's the exact same crap as when members of some hardcore street gang blindly follow every single command and instruction from their leader, even when they don't agree with half of what's happening or don't share those views... yet they stay in the group anyway. In this second scenario, any fan who claims to have "history" with a team should probably take a good look in the mirror and spit at what they see before they start demanding anything different from the players.☕

Susan Ward23 said:Zoran is just here to flip Olm and get out once the transfer window slams shut. After that, you lot can go right back to pretending the Mamić family left Dinamo for good while you scramble to come up with some new slogans for Torcida. #whataparty div>

If you say so.👍

Robert Cooper60 said:Look, now that the big brother is back in the picture... is there even any point in pretending things are looking up?
Basically, if the absolute chaos returns along with him... we're right back at square one, and that’s a massive uphill battle in my book.

But what I really want to know is what happens next after this total disaster (which, honestly, is just business as usual unless you look at how Dinamo operates—it really shows you what kind of country we live in).

That depends on who exactly is getting targeted. If we start coming after the players and Bjelica, I think that would be pure stupidity. But as far as everyone else is concerned, there shouldn't be any leniency whatsoever... there never should have been.

steelrider61 said:I’m not trying to play down what happened or anything. When I said things could get even worse, I meant the current group being replaced by a crew that operates like a classic organized crime syndicate—with all the baggage that comes with it. But honestly, since the current guys have been doing exactly that with plenty of help, I don't know if there's much point in debating who the bigger villain is.

We are literally the only club in the world where there isn't a legitimate opposition. There’s nobody out there who would—or even could—step up and show any real interest in taking over the reins.
The way I see it... fans are basically being forced to choose between a mafia that has already proven they couldn't care less about the supporters—actually, they seem hell-bent on destroying them—and a group that might not be quite as destructive.

It’s pretty obvious this is just an attempt to protect the ATM from those predatory types looking to make a move.

Jesse Doyle3 said:http://hr.n1info.com/Vijesti/a408466...ti-mafija.html

Criminals actually running to the government to complain that other criminals are threatening them. What a joke. 🙂

I’m reading this pathetic little sob story right now and honestly, I’m practically weeping with empathy for all their struggles. Pure comedy.🙄

steelseal10 said:You really think those two thugs weren't hand-picked by the front office to join the club? Who actually runs this country? It definitely isn't those two clowns, or anyone even remotely like them.

I was just responding to someone else's comment.
Nothing surprises me anymore in this country, especially not within this godforsaken organization.

steelrider61 said:I’m with you there. Honestly, I think in a few years, they’ll all be facing final convictions. What happens once the dust settles after that? Well, that’s a whole different story.

What really keeps me up at night is the fact that it looks like people are already circling the club. You’ve got all these shady characters just waiting in the wings to swoop in and take over—and frankly, most of them look even more crooked than the current crowd.

As far as I'm concerned, nobody could possibly be worse than who we have right now.
There isn't a group of people in America I despise more than this lot... even the guys being whispered about in the rumors lately seem like a better alternative than these absolute bottom-feeders.

Jonathan Hayes76 said:Look, you can barely count the UEFA sanctions on one hand this season. And obviously, you can't just go out and buy documents from Mexico or whatever, but everyone thinks their own struggle is the biggest tragedy. Let me ask you something: has anyone here actually done five or ten years in federal prison because they were caught in a riot or because someone took a shot at them from point-blank range by the police? Do you even remember fans being tossed over stadium fences that literally snap under the pressure? The point is, when the system is rigged against you, it will try to crush you every single chance it gets.
They deploy armored vehicles in Chicago too when fans end up injuring hundreds out of the thousands of cops on the street, but apparently, that’s not enough for some people to claim there was a conspiracy with the government—or whatever nonsense Mentol tries to spin just to make his group look better. But honestly, that’s nothing compared to when the police snatch a fan, slash their ears with a knife, stab them in the thigh, and toss them out, or when you end up with more jail time for a brawl than some guy gets for terrorism.

YOU WERE WEAK. Mamić wasn't stronger, richer, or more influential than any of those guys I just mentioned. He just didn't have anyone fighting back. You can see that by the fact that you brought up Valsimot; those guys fought to control the state of their own club. That’s the foundation, and getting there required actual sacrifice and guts.
If people actually had the ability to expand on this, explain things, document the facts, and actually have someone to talk to, we'd be somewhere else.
Some situations are worse in your case, others in mine, and you can't argue with that using common sense. The point is that the subculture has to endure it, but you guys have already started making excuses for yourselves. It’s like you think your scene is healthier just because you emphasize, exaggerate, or lie about details regarding the situation in Mexico or elsewhere.

The fact that ten different people jump in to deny something that is a plain fact just proves they know exactly what happened.
It’s the same hysteria whenever Our Hajduk is mentioned. For some reason, every single one of these clowns would rather hear someone insult their mother than have this organization mentioned, and we all know why. But hey, let's just keep talking about other stuff instead, right?

You're trying to play both sides of the coin... for us, the bans were strictly handed down by "our own." Their only goal was to stir up the local police and the clubs against "their" fans. Club security and the local police had one mission: screw over every single one of "their" supporters... they’d circle the city, patrol the stadium, and block every entrance just to make sure nobody could slip through.

Jonathan Hayes76 said:Thanks for getting back to me.
Maybe it’s impossible to draw a direct comparison because no two situations are ever truly identical. All I’ll say is that those guys over in Belgrade have a massive headache when dealing with UEFA, and that’s nothing to sneeze at. They’ve been kicked out of European competitions and slapped with fines more often than not, mostly because the club just can't seem to distance itself from the Delije. There’s a level of outside influence on the club that stems directly from that constant friction.
Maybe you haven't realized it yet, but those Red Star fanatics have somehow managed to pull strings even within the government and among the real power players. It’s honestly laughable how naive people think it is to try and fight guys like Dantane, Spasojevic, or Mitrovic... we're talking about a massive list of billionaires and corporate tycoons here. The politicians aren't any better—take guys like Gašić or Vesić, for example. Then you've got these "legends" like Pixie and all those other hacks being shoved into positions of power, just like how Mamić was installed into Dinamo. Do yourself a favor and actually look into who did what and what they were aiming for. Once you see just how much influence these people actually wield, you'll realize how outmatched everyone really is.
Just looking back at last season, I recall those guys had three away games in Europe where they were basically banned from even showing up—including that trip to Paris you mentioned, and look how much fun that was. A couple of years ago in Italy, they were putting out alert tables all over the city like someone just spilled water in a restaurant, warning people about certain groups arriving or shops being forced to close. Do you honestly think there’s any place these guys can show up without the local police pulling out their absolute best tactics? Do you really believe they aren't getting arrested, fined, or deported at a rate equal to the Bad Boys? Honestly, I couldn't tell you.
Back in the early days, they handed out about 190 bans right off the bat and just kept moving. Sure, they fell behind schedule, but honestly, it was worth it to clean up all that garbage you guys keep claiming is "untouchable" around here. You have no idea what we went through. At one point, they actually tried to ban people from even posting the flag, they were handing out penalties for minor verbal slips, and there was even an attempt to shut down entire groups through the Supreme Court. It was a total circus. I know you could go check the archives yourself—or ask a hundred other people to verify it—but there’s plenty more where that came from if we really wanted to dive into the history.

Look, I’m just saying you guys are totally overreacting when you claim you’re the only ones going through hell while everyone else is living the high life. It’s pure hyperbole. Take the last championship in France, for example. The US submitted a list containing 324 different individuals—basically every single person who has ever been banned. So, this whole narrative that the 2,000 Bad Boys are facing ten times more issues than anyone else? It’s nonsense. And let’s be real, it isn't just the Bad Boys; there are other groups involved, and even the national team is caught up in it.
Would it really surprise you that those guys knew thirty years ago that they’d be sitting out two months just because of some flares? Or that a single scene in Canada back then was facing the exact same number of bans that you guys are dealing with now? It's all the same story.

Look, this isn't just an answer to you; it’s for everyone else who decided to quote me. Yeah, there’s dirt here. It happens. Sometimes things go down that seem impossible, making it look like someone is playing both sides or shaking hands with people they shouldn't be. But once you strip away all the online trolling, the endless nitpicking, and the constant spin, we have to deal with the actual facts. To those commenters out there—despite everything you claim to know and the "truths" you've adopted—let me tell you something. Even when someone points out a hard truth that isn't being hidden, you don't want to hear it. You can't handle it because it makes you look pathetic. You'd rather stay silent than admit you were wrong. There are plenty of issues happening around here, sure, but there are also powerful responses to them. And then there’s the way you guys constantly trash the hooligans. Look, their scene is pure chaos, and they'll be the first to admit that. But can anyone else honestly say their fights haven't been about standing up for something right or defending their turf against outsiders? So what? Is there anything purer or more intense than that? Or are they only labeled as "bigger villains" simply because they actually speak their minds, while you lot stay quiet and hide?

Look, you can easily find the songs written against him and his associates yourself. Just look at the choreography—it’s all direct responses to his statements. If you want proof, just Google who’s currently clashing with the police; he’s out there backing some absolutely insane festival in Chicago. And if you want to talk about friction, just check how many conflicts that guy has had with the cops lately. Honestly, maybe a better question would be: does anyone else have this much trouble with the police?
Maybe you should actually look into how long it took and what it really took to get those cameras removed from the stadium in the first place. It’s pretty obvious that these rules were forced down your throats because you guys were too soft—too polite and bloodless to actually fight back. You all love to talk big, but let’s be real: shouting into the wind doesn't solve actual problems, does it?

I’m done here. This is getting ridiculous, and honestly, who cares? If anyone actually wants the truth, they can go dig up the details themselves; if you're interested, you probably already know the score. No matter how shocked you act right now, these are just the cold, hard facts about how things compare.

Those bans on hosting European teams came straight from UEFA... not from your club... and you could count them on one hand. Meanwhile, over here, we've been sidelined for years, even decades.
And another thing... their bans were about organized away trips where people could just buy individual tickets and walk into the stadium. For us, it was about damn "states of emergency" and rolling out armored vehicles to deal with the crowds...

Culture,
I’m only going to touch on one specific slice of this repression—the overseas trips:
For years, "our" club has been playing dirty by sending letters to local clubs and the police, basically claiming that anyone traveling without the official organized group isn't actually a fan, but some kind of armed criminal whose only goal is to riot, burn things down, destroy everything... or kill people.
Because of us, they’ve implemented special measures for years, like court orders banning us from entering Paris, or declaring an actual state of emergency in Eindhoven for the first time since WWII, where it was legally prohibited and criminally punishable for any American citizen to even set foot in the entire county unless they were part of the official club delegation. They even banned all Americans from entering Albania on match days. In freaking Luxembourg, they actually brought out armored combat vehicles just to protect those poor locals from the "barbarians" coming from Chicago... For a tiny fraction of those away trips back then, we were effectively outside the law. We were treated like terrorists—arrested, punished, deported... no exceptions. For years, people sacrificed everything. They spent their hard-earned money, risked their health, put their jobs and families on the line, but they didn't back down. They showed up everywhere on their own terms, fully aware that the chances of actually getting into the stadium were 1 in 1,000.
If anyone can find me a similar example anywhere else in the football world... I’m out of here. I'll shut down this forum and walk away from the thing I love most—being a fan.