Overdrafts and negative balances: What's allowed?
in Banking, Insurance & Loans ·
George Phillips said:Maybe this sounds a bit blunt, but I’m curious how people would handle things like they did twenty years ago, back before overdrafts were even a thing—or maybe a little later when you could get a small $167 cushion, and then eventually $667. Back then, if you wanted to spend money "ahead" of yourself, your only real bets were consumer loans or those old-school personal loans (which definitely weren't cheap), or just writing checks.
It wasn't until about fifteen years ago that banks like Chase started offering overdraft limits based on your average paycheck, where you could bump it up by 10% every six months of good standing—up to 100% max.
BTW, does anyone else remember when mortgage rates were sitting around 9.5% about 13 or 14 years ago, while savings accounts were paying maybe 30%? 😲
Basically, I always prefer looking at income and expenses on an annual basis rather than monthly. It makes it way easier to see your actual financial picture and actually make a plan.
Like, think about car registration and annual maintenance, buying books or school gear for the kids, heating bills for those using oil or wood, or even vacation costs... people always call these "unexpected" expenses that wreck their budget for the month, so they end up dipping into their overdraft to cover them. To me, it seems way more rational to just add up all those "extra" costs, divide them by twelve, and bake them into your monthly budget. If you already find yourself deep in the red, I honestly think the smartest move is to take out a personal loan to cover that deficit, stretch it over 2 or 3 years so the payments stay manageable, and then just stick to what you can afford moving forward—otherwise, you're just digging a deeper hole.
That sounds great on paper, but honestly, it's almost impossible to pull off. There’s always something popping up that drags you back into the negative. A pipe bursts in the bathroom, the car breaks down, you get hit with two wedding invites you can't refuse... For instance, I had to go into the red the other day because I needed a laptop for work and my company wouldn't or couldn't buy one for me. And boom, $1333 in the hole. And I even grabbed one of the cheapest models. Why didn't I just finance it or use a credit line? Well, because I'm already paying $2,500 on my mortgage, plus I'm still paying off the last car service, insurance, and registration, not to mention the credit I used for a TV after my old one died. So, yeah. I know plenty of people making minimum $1667, and I also know folks pulling in over $10,000 who are still overdrawn by $4667. Then they get a tax refund or some little bonus at work and finally clear the balance. But then they fall right back into it, maybe take out another loan to cover the gap, then an unexpected expense hits, so they borrow from a friend or put it on a credit card to pay someone back, then gas prices spike or whatever... It’s just a constant cycle. If things were as simple as you're making them sound, most Americans wouldn't be perpetually broke. I don't really believe everyone is just greedy or incapable of handling money.