Dr. Gilhooly is talking about MS and LDN, go check it out. I've seen all kinds of comments floating around regarding that study.
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Awesome, thanks everyone!
@Samuel Morgan40, I can't just sit here and stay silent about these studies. GlaxoSmithKline spent years pushing Avandia, even though they lied through their teeth—we're talking around 200,000 deaths in the US alone because of that drug. They think 90% of these studies aren't even accurate, according to research by John Ioannidis. Big Pharma knows exactly what they're doing. Just look at the US recently banning three obesity drugs that were actually approved after massive clinical trials. How does that happen?
@amberhawk, I've changed my mind. LDN is nothing. Just forget the whole thing, please.
@Samuel Morgan40, I can't just sit here and stay silent about these studies. GlaxoSmithKline spent years pushing Avandia, even though they lied through their teeth—we're talking around 200,000 deaths in the US alone because of that drug. They think 90% of these studies aren't even accurate, according to research by John Ioannidis. Big Pharma knows exactly what they're doing. Just look at the US recently banning three obesity drugs that were actually approved after massive clinical trials. How does that happen?
@amberhawk, I've changed my mind. LDN is nothing. Just forget the whole thing, please.
amberhawk, thanks, but I honestly don't know if there's even any point in replying to your post.
You're talking about one thing, I'm talking about another—just like everyone else here in the States. I'm just wasting my breath!
I highly doubt anyone has actually clicked the links I already dropped on this forum. But fine, here we go again.
First off, regarding disease rates in America: you can find the data in the news or through reports from international organizations (maybe you can dig that up yourself? Check Google News or the New York Times; sorry, I don't have the energy to do your homework for you. Between the LDN and this forum, I've had enough—why am I wasting my time here?)
Since you clearly know more about the UK than I do, and I've been living here for nearly 50 years, I guess I must be clueless. There's no point arguing about it.
As for doctors over in the UK: Dr. Tom Gilhooly in Glasgow prescribes LDN and actually believes in it. Here’s his site:
http://tomgilhooly.com/
You'll have to ask him yourself if he'd write you a prescription for lupus.
Over here in the US, there are a few heavy hitters, like Whittaker and his famous Wellness Center in Newport Beach, California.
The most well-known doctor for LDN was Dr. Bihari in New York (he passed away last year), who spent years treating lupus with LDN. Now, his assistant, Dr. Zagon, handles it:
http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T74481.
There are other links out there, but I'm too exhausted to hunt them down right now.
You can find some smaller studies, but the big ones? They aren't coming, and they never will (at least, that's what a lot of people think), all because of the influence of Big Pharma.
You can find some of the studies on your own; I've shared links before.
This is the link to the most important LDN organization in the world, so why don't you ask them?
http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/
Regarding the comparison between Pronison and LDN—I haven't seen Pronison getting nearly as much praise as LDN. Let's be real, Pronison comes with a massive list of serious side effects.
What finally sold me on LDN being useful for various autoimmune diseases was when that famous British TV Doctor, Chris Steele (you probably know him?), made a public plea. He said the NHS could save billions—not millions!—if they were actually allowed to use LDN.
Anyway, I regret starting this thread. I had the best intentions—none of this was for personal gain—but I'm just spinning my wheels.
You're talking about one thing, I'm talking about another—just like everyone else here in the States. I'm just wasting my breath!
I highly doubt anyone has actually clicked the links I already dropped on this forum. But fine, here we go again.
First off, regarding disease rates in America: you can find the data in the news or through reports from international organizations (maybe you can dig that up yourself? Check Google News or the New York Times; sorry, I don't have the energy to do your homework for you. Between the LDN and this forum, I've had enough—why am I wasting my time here?)
Since you clearly know more about the UK than I do, and I've been living here for nearly 50 years, I guess I must be clueless. There's no point arguing about it.
As for doctors over in the UK: Dr. Tom Gilhooly in Glasgow prescribes LDN and actually believes in it. Here’s his site:
http://tomgilhooly.com/
You'll have to ask him yourself if he'd write you a prescription for lupus.
Over here in the US, there are a few heavy hitters, like Whittaker and his famous Wellness Center in Newport Beach, California.
The most well-known doctor for LDN was Dr. Bihari in New York (he passed away last year), who spent years treating lupus with LDN. Now, his assistant, Dr. Zagon, handles it:
http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T74481.
There are other links out there, but I'm too exhausted to hunt them down right now.
You can find some smaller studies, but the big ones? They aren't coming, and they never will (at least, that's what a lot of people think), all because of the influence of Big Pharma.
You can find some of the studies on your own; I've shared links before.
This is the link to the most important LDN organization in the world, so why don't you ask them?
http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/
Regarding the comparison between Pronison and LDN—I haven't seen Pronison getting nearly as much praise as LDN. Let's be real, Pronison comes with a massive list of serious side effects.
What finally sold me on LDN being useful for various autoimmune diseases was when that famous British TV Doctor, Chris Steele (you probably know him?), made a public plea. He said the NHS could save billions—not millions!—if they were actually allowed to use LDN.
Anyway, I regret starting this thread. I had the best intentions—none of this was for personal gain—but I'm just spinning my wheels.
As for everyone else out there: you won't find much negative press about it. There are studies on LDN—well, at least some available in English. On the flip side, there’s a ton of coverage, newspaper articles, and even TV segments touting LDN as a successful treatment. I won't dump a bunch of links here right now; I don't want to annoy you guys.
It really comes down to the individual. In America, if nobody believes in it? Fine by me.
The only reason I started this thread is because it drives me absolutely insane that Americans are one of the sickest nations in the West, yet we're among the highest consumers of medication. You can check the data in the US news if you don't believe me.
It’s honestly terrible. But nobody seems to want to comment on it, and frankly, it looks like nobody even cares.
It really comes down to the individual. In America, if nobody believes in it? Fine by me.
The only reason I started this thread is because it drives me absolutely insane that Americans are one of the sickest nations in the West, yet we're among the highest consumers of medication. You can check the data in the US news if you don't believe me.
It’s honestly terrible. But nobody seems to want to comment on it, and frankly, it looks like nobody even cares.
Ryan Patel64, sorry for bugging you. I can see you're going through a rough patch right now, so seriously, don't even bother replying to this thread. You’ve got way bigger fish to fry than my comments. Honestly, I wasn't even going to say another word about LDN if you hadn't posted that message.
Sending you nothing but the best for your health.
Sending you nothing but the best for your health.
Ryan Patel64, sorry, it’s me again. I know, I know—I’m probably driving everyone crazy by now.
But this whole online thing is really bugging me. You see these massive, household-name pharmacies in the US and the UK selling this stuff, but they strictly require a prescription because, you know, they actually want to follow the law. Take Skips Pharmacy in Boca Raton, Florida, for example—one of the big names. Someone living in Los Angeles isn't exactly going to hop on a plane to Florida just to pick up a bottle of meds. No, they send over the prescription first, and then everything gets handled online.
Then you've got the situation with India. They ship without a prescription, and since it’s way cheaper—according to what people are saying on the LDN forums—lots of folks from the US, the UK, and elsewhere end up ordering from one of those massive Indian generic pharma giants. It's even gotten to the point where some Western pharmacies buy bulk supplies from India (like 50 grams at a time), then dilute it themselves to make specific 3mg or 4.5mg capsules.
Look, obviously, the gold standard is getting treatment with proper medical advice and doctor support.
Just one question for the group: did your doctor actually give you any real info regarding Naltrexone or LDN? Because let’s be honest, there is a massive difference between the two.
But this whole online thing is really bugging me. You see these massive, household-name pharmacies in the US and the UK selling this stuff, but they strictly require a prescription because, you know, they actually want to follow the law. Take Skips Pharmacy in Boca Raton, Florida, for example—one of the big names. Someone living in Los Angeles isn't exactly going to hop on a plane to Florida just to pick up a bottle of meds. No, they send over the prescription first, and then everything gets handled online.
Then you've got the situation with India. They ship without a prescription, and since it’s way cheaper—according to what people are saying on the LDN forums—lots of folks from the US, the UK, and elsewhere end up ordering from one of those massive Indian generic pharma giants. It's even gotten to the point where some Western pharmacies buy bulk supplies from India (like 50 grams at a time), then dilute it themselves to make specific 3mg or 4.5mg capsules.
Look, obviously, the gold standard is getting treatment with proper medical advice and doctor support.
Just one question for the group: did your doctor actually give you any real info regarding Naltrexone or LDN? Because let’s be honest, there is a massive difference between the two.
Ryan Patel64, I totally get where you're coming from. Sending nothing but good vibes for your health.
Look, sorry if I can't go all out here, but I don't trust doctors 100%. Not after what I went through. A few years back, they put me on this famous statin, and man, it caused me nothing but trouble. Then, wouldn't you know it? I find out later the drug was actually banned because it was linked to over a hundred thousand deaths.
Look, sorry if I can't go all out here, but I don't trust doctors 100%. Not after what I went through. A few years back, they put me on this famous statin, and man, it caused me nothing but trouble. Then, wouldn't you know it? I find out later the drug was actually banned because it was linked to over a hundred thousand deaths.
My bad, our Norwegian woman doesn't want to jump into any public debates.
Ryan Patel64, thanks for the helpful input on LDN.
Look, obviously you need to talk to a doctor, especially when dealing with something as heavy as lupus. But let's be real—most doctors here in the States don't know the first thing about LDN or how it treats autoimmune issues. Your doctor probably gave you the runaround regarding Naltrexone instead of explaining LDN. It’s obvious Naltrexone isn't the answer for autoimmune stuff; the standard dose is 50mg, while LDN usually tops out at around 4.5mg. They aren't even the same game.
If you've got the energy, try searching "LDN lupus" on Google. There is a ton of info out there in English (you can always use Google Translate if you need to). Plenty of patients swear by it and claim it changed everything for them.
There are actually doctors in the UK and the US who prescribe LDN specifically for lupus.
As for the cost here in the US, that price you saw is definitely for the 50mg tablets, which you have to dilute down to 4.5mg or less. If you go that route, 28 tablets could actually last you a year or more. One American woman—I think she's from Norway—takes LDN for MS and was posting on page 71 of the MS section about how to dilute Naltrexone. From what I gathered, she wants to join public discussions, but she might just hit you up via PM. Otherwise, you can get it from a reputable pharma company in India for about $19 for 10 tablets (50mg), and a good number of people in the West buy it that way.
I still believe in LDN because it has helped so many people. Just be careful, though—don't go rogue and start dosing yourself without supervision. Wishing you nothing but the best with your health. Thanks again.
Look, obviously you need to talk to a doctor, especially when dealing with something as heavy as lupus. But let's be real—most doctors here in the States don't know the first thing about LDN or how it treats autoimmune issues. Your doctor probably gave you the runaround regarding Naltrexone instead of explaining LDN. It’s obvious Naltrexone isn't the answer for autoimmune stuff; the standard dose is 50mg, while LDN usually tops out at around 4.5mg. They aren't even the same game.
If you've got the energy, try searching "LDN lupus" on Google. There is a ton of info out there in English (you can always use Google Translate if you need to). Plenty of patients swear by it and claim it changed everything for them.
There are actually doctors in the UK and the US who prescribe LDN specifically for lupus.
As for the cost here in the US, that price you saw is definitely for the 50mg tablets, which you have to dilute down to 4.5mg or less. If you go that route, 28 tablets could actually last you a year or more. One American woman—I think she's from Norway—takes LDN for MS and was posting on page 71 of the MS section about how to dilute Naltrexone. From what I gathered, she wants to join public discussions, but she might just hit you up via PM. Otherwise, you can get it from a reputable pharma company in India for about $19 for 10 tablets (50mg), and a good number of people in the West buy it that way.
I still believe in LDN because it has helped so many people. Just be careful, though—don't go rogue and start dosing yourself without supervision. Wishing you nothing but the best with your health. Thanks again.
Thanks for bearing with my posts, everyone. My intentions were always good—I just wanted to help out where I could.
melloworca6, thanks for the advice. It's true, I was being a bit much, but there were a lot of misunderstandings (that's on me). For instance, I didn't realize you can't just have medication sent through the mail here in the US; usually, that's how it works in the UK, and especially in America. Every pharmacy I mentioned has a solid reputation (in the USA, Canada, or the UK) and they specialize in shipping meds via mail.
Does any doctor in America even know about this medication? There are hundreds of doctors abroad who are actually well-meaning. That’s why you won't find a single doctor here in the US willing to prescribe it. Then again, maybe Big Pharma has something to do with that too.
Regarding studies and research: the FDA approved Botox for chronic migraines just ten days ago without even needing massive new studies or trials (it was the same deal in the UK about a month ago). They went off patient testimonials because everyone knows Botox is safe and it's been used for ages anyway.
As for the research itself, Big Pharma runs all those studies, then takes them to government agencies for approval. But according to Dr. John Ioannidis and his work, about 90% of these studies are flawed—either things are downplayed or massively exaggerated. A perfect example is Avandia; it was approved after a major study, but now it's considered to be based on fake data. In the US alone, between 50,000 and 200,000 people died from heart disease caused by taking that drug. The first 700 people in America affected by Avandia won a $10 million settlement without the manufacturer ever admitting fault, and now hundreds of thousands more are seeking compensation.
I honestly don't believe LDN will ever get approved because of Big Pharma. Like Chris Steele (a TV Doctor in the UK) says, they would be losing billions of dollars—which means a loss for the drug manufacturers.
Sorry again if I've been annoying, but my intentions are pure.
melloworca6, thanks for the advice. It's true, I was being a bit much, but there were a lot of misunderstandings (that's on me). For instance, I didn't realize you can't just have medication sent through the mail here in the US; usually, that's how it works in the UK, and especially in America. Every pharmacy I mentioned has a solid reputation (in the USA, Canada, or the UK) and they specialize in shipping meds via mail.
Does any doctor in America even know about this medication? There are hundreds of doctors abroad who are actually well-meaning. That’s why you won't find a single doctor here in the US willing to prescribe it. Then again, maybe Big Pharma has something to do with that too.
Regarding studies and research: the FDA approved Botox for chronic migraines just ten days ago without even needing massive new studies or trials (it was the same deal in the UK about a month ago). They went off patient testimonials because everyone knows Botox is safe and it's been used for ages anyway.
As for the research itself, Big Pharma runs all those studies, then takes them to government agencies for approval. But according to Dr. John Ioannidis and his work, about 90% of these studies are flawed—either things are downplayed or massively exaggerated. A perfect example is Avandia; it was approved after a major study, but now it's considered to be based on fake data. In the US alone, between 50,000 and 200,000 people died from heart disease caused by taking that drug. The first 700 people in America affected by Avandia won a $10 million settlement without the manufacturer ever admitting fault, and now hundreds of thousands more are seeking compensation.
I honestly don't believe LDN will ever get approved because of Big Pharma. Like Chris Steele (a TV Doctor in the UK) says, they would be losing billions of dollars—which means a loss for the drug manufacturers.
Sorry again if I've been annoying, but my intentions are pure.
Sorry, it's me again. I know I keep bugging everyone with this LDN stuff, but look—this drug has been around for 25 years and it’s helped hundreds of thousands of people. You can find the data online if you actually bother to look.
There’s this top-tier TV doctor in the UK, Chris Steel, who has an incredible reputation. He’s talking about this exact medication, pointing out that the NHS could save billions—mind you, I mean billions, not millions!—if they just started using it more widely for various autoimmune diseases. But because Big Pharma has such a massive grip on everything, it won't happen unless the British Parliament steps in and makes a move. And even then, it's an uphill battle because of that corporate influence, despite all the petitions being filed.
Here is Dr. Steel’s appeal along with comments from people who have actually seen results from the drug:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com...&ct=clnk&gl=uk
So, if you haven't lost your patience with me yet, I have a question. And this really matters to me, why are Americans so incredibly negative toward something new that could actually help them, yet they'll flock to Torabi or other "healers" without a second thought? Is it just mass psychology at work, or what? I've lived abroad for nearly 50 years now, and I honestly just don't get it. Thanks in advance!
After this, I promise I won't pester you about LDN anymore.
There’s this top-tier TV doctor in the UK, Chris Steel, who has an incredible reputation. He’s talking about this exact medication, pointing out that the NHS could save billions—mind you, I mean billions, not millions!—if they just started using it more widely for various autoimmune diseases. But because Big Pharma has such a massive grip on everything, it won't happen unless the British Parliament steps in and makes a move. And even then, it's an uphill battle because of that corporate influence, despite all the petitions being filed.
Here is Dr. Steel’s appeal along with comments from people who have actually seen results from the drug:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com...&ct=clnk&gl=uk
So, if you haven't lost your patience with me yet, I have a question. And this really matters to me, why are Americans so incredibly negative toward something new that could actually help them, yet they'll flock to Torabi or other "healers" without a second thought? Is it just mass psychology at work, or what? I've lived abroad for nearly 50 years now, and I honestly just don't get it. Thanks in advance!
After this, I promise I won't pester you about LDN anymore.
Mod, look, LDN is an actual medication. You can only get it at a pharmacy with a doctor's prescription. It isn't some "alternative" remedy.
Look, regarding LDN and MS, let’s be real: there aren't massive, blockbuster clinical trials proving it works. You’ve only got the smaller studies, like the ones out of the Milan Institute or Stanford University in California. And honestly? We're probably never going to see those giant studies. Why? Because the patent expired. Big Pharma doesn't give a damn about promoting something they can't make a killing on. No profit, no promotion. It's that simple.
A ton of doctors actually believe this stuff works and are prescribing it for MS and other autoimmune issues. Take Dickson Pharmacy in Glasgow—just one example of several places that carry it, though you obviously need a prescription. They recently reported that back in 2009, they handled nearly 900 prescriptions for LDN, all coming directly from MDs.
The drug isn't harmful, period. The studies from Milan and Stanford back that up, and the side effects are minimal at best.
People living with MS have already tried the "standard" medications, and most of them didn't do squat. So, they turn to LDN. I've read about 200 testimonials online, and the results? Honestly, they seem nothing short of miraculous.
If I were dealing with MS or any other autoimmune disorder, I’d definitely be taking it. Hands down.
I've dropped some links here in English for you guys:
http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm/fuse...how/pageid/651
Take Terry Finnigan, for instance. He shared his story on this site, which I ran through www.google.com/translate
:
"After being diagnosed with relapsing-remitting MS in 2001, I started on a low dose of Naltrexone two weeks ago. I'm at 3mg right now, hoping to hit my maintenance dose of 4.5mg next month."
"For the first few days, I just felt a little buzzed. But since starting LDN, I've noticed more stamina, my tingling sensations have stopped, and my constant relapses have suddenly ceased. I haven't had any nasty side effects, and I feel an incredible sense of hope and encouragement."
"I truly believe Naltrexone offers people with MS a huge chance at improvement, and that's why I'm taking it."
I'm also following the Best Bet Diet.
Sure, that's just one person's experience, but there are hundreds more like it scattered all over the internet.
Here's another solid website run by MS patients:
http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm/fuse...how/pageid/651
You can use Google Translate to figure out the rest.
A ton of doctors actually believe this stuff works and are prescribing it for MS and other autoimmune issues. Take Dickson Pharmacy in Glasgow—just one example of several places that carry it, though you obviously need a prescription. They recently reported that back in 2009, they handled nearly 900 prescriptions for LDN, all coming directly from MDs.
The drug isn't harmful, period. The studies from Milan and Stanford back that up, and the side effects are minimal at best.
People living with MS have already tried the "standard" medications, and most of them didn't do squat. So, they turn to LDN. I've read about 200 testimonials online, and the results? Honestly, they seem nothing short of miraculous.
If I were dealing with MS or any other autoimmune disorder, I’d definitely be taking it. Hands down.
I've dropped some links here in English for you guys:
http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm/fuse...how/pageid/651
Take Terry Finnigan, for instance. He shared his story on this site, which I ran through www.google.com/translate
:
"After being diagnosed with relapsing-remitting MS in 2001, I started on a low dose of Naltrexone two weeks ago. I'm at 3mg right now, hoping to hit my maintenance dose of 4.5mg next month."
"For the first few days, I just felt a little buzzed. But since starting LDN, I've noticed more stamina, my tingling sensations have stopped, and my constant relapses have suddenly ceased. I haven't had any nasty side effects, and I feel an incredible sense of hope and encouragement."
"I truly believe Naltrexone offers people with MS a huge chance at improvement, and that's why I'm taking it."
I'm also following the Best Bet Diet.
Sure, that's just one person's experience, but there are hundreds more like it scattered all over the internet.
Here's another solid website run by MS patients:
http://www.msrc.co.uk/index.cfm/fuse...how/pageid/651
You can use Google Translate to figure out the rest.
Hey everyone. Thanks, wiredlynx33. I'm feeling pretty wiped today (9.3 miles was out at the bar last night). This might actually be useful for some of you—just some info I picked up from CVS in Canada. It turns out Naltrexone goes by different brand names depending on where you are in the world:
Nalorex (manufactured by Bristol-Myers-Squibb)
Nodict (manufactured by Sun Pharma)
Naltima (manufactured by INTAS)
Narpan (manufactured by Duopharma)
Antaxone (manufactured by Pharmazam)
Celupan (manufactured by Narconics)
Narcoral (manufactured by Siton)
Nemexin, Revez, Naltrexona, and Naltrexonum (manufactured by Bristol-Myers-Squibb)
But look, do your own homework. Don't just take my word for it; go out there and research everything yourselves.
Angela
Nalorex (manufactured by Bristol-Myers-Squibb)
Nodict (manufactured by Sun Pharma)
Naltima (manufactured by INTAS)
Narpan (manufactured by Duopharma)
Antaxone (manufactured by Pharmazam)
Celupan (manufactured by Narconics)
Narcoral (manufactured by Siton)
Nemexin, Revez, Naltrexona, and Naltrexonum (manufactured by Bristol-Myers-Squibb)
But look, do your own homework. Don't just take my word for it; go out there and research everything yourselves.
Angela
jadesailor14 said:You are stepping onto some very, very thin ice here.
I have to ask (and please forgive me if I'm being too blunt), but without formal medical, pharmaceutical, chemical, or biological training,
even with the best intentions in the world, are you really prepared to take responsibility for someone else's life?
I’m genuinely surprised by this. You’re old enough to know better, and since you aren't personally battling a major illness, you don't have that desperate drive for a cure driving your logic.
There is a massive difference between sharing information and encouraging critically ill patients to buy and use medications without any medical supervision.
A huge NO from me.
I am all for new therapies, and I always say every patient deserves choices. Medicine is constantly advancing, and doctors should definitely stay on top of new treatments... but I cannot support the uncontrolled use of drugs by the severely ill.
I totally get the desperation to feel better—believe me, if I could do things I can't do anymore to feel better, I'd do them in a heartbeat. But... we have to be careful not to cause harm.
Just because something worked for Barica and Mate doesn't mean it will work for us, especially since they are just anonymous users on a screen.
Ulcerative colitis is no joke. I haven't dealt with it myself, but my father has been fighting it for 30 years. We've had such hard times; he was even sent home from the hospital three different times because they said he was handling the hospital environment so poorly that he'd be more peaceful passing away at home. It was devastating.
Please don't joke about this. It is a serious disease. My dad is still here (he's been on meds for 30 years, isn't perfectly healthy, and has plenty of other issues, but he's independent!), but many of his friends from the hospital are gone.
Use your head.
Don't get defensive immediately. Neither the moderators nor Angela Wright are trying to be mean; they are just looking out for you and giving you a heads-up.
jadesailor14, thanks. Look, I don't have a medical degree, but I've spent countless hours digging into LDN. I've looked at what renowned doctors like Dr. Bihari, Smith, Zagon, and Goohilly have to say, read through several studies, and went through about 200 patient testimonials and stuff.
LDN (usually up to 4.5 mg) is a tiny dose of Naltrexone—a drug typically used in doses of 50 to 200 mg to treat alcohol and drug addiction. Not one single study or doctor claims it has dangerous consequences; there are almost zero side effects (maybe some insomnia). About 70% of people say it helped them, some even claim they're cured (meaning no more "flare ups"), and while about 10% feel it didn't work for them, nobody is claiming it made their condition worse.
There are even TV shows about this; some people call it a miracle drug. A leading TV Doctor in the UK, Chris Steel, made a heartfelt plea ("The NHS would save billions if they used LDN"), and there was even a petition signed by 14,000 people sent to Parliament over there.
But in the UK, about 95% of doctors refuse to prescribe it because it looks like Big Pharma is putting on the pressure to keep this cheap, effective drug from being used.
As for Big Pharma, it's just scandal after scandal—Avandia and Crestor (statins). Some estimates suggest that between 50,000 and 200,000 people in the US have died from those drugs. Now Avandia is banned in the UK. In the US, GlaxoSmithKline had to pay 60 million dollars to the first 700 people who sued them for the harmful effects, and there are still about 100,000 more people waiting in line for lawsuits.
I had massive problems with statins myself, and I stopped taking them three years ago, despite my doctor's advice (if I had listened to the doctor, maybe I wouldn't be bothering you guys here right now). I trust people's lived experiences and my own history with a medication way more than I trust doctors.
But hey, everyone should do their own research before jumping to conclusions. If I had an autoimmune disease or something similar, I already know exactly what I'd do.
Scott Allen10, look, I just want to help people. I’ve spent ages digging into this, and I truly believe LDN could be a game-changer for so many folks.
It honestly breaks my heart to see people—especially the younger ones—dealing with autoimmune diseases. They end up in the hospital twice a year, and you have a 25-year-old girl telling you, "I'm done with everything, I'd rather just kill myself." Meanwhile, there's actually something out there, like LDN, that would most likely help her get her life back on track.
And yet, you’re standing there blocking people from getting the help they need. To me, that’s just messed up.
Angela Wright, I don't know much about that specific law, and yeah, I guess it's the same deal in other places like the UK. But think about it: someone is seriously ill, standard meds aren't doing a damn thing, but an alternative actually works. Now, because of some rule, they're supposed to just follow the law and refuse what actually helps? While their quality of life hits rock bottom or they literally die?
So they'd rather just die because they have to follow the rules? That's pure stupidity if you ask me. I read on one forum that half the people taking LDN in the UK are getting it through mail order, essentially bypassing the system. But let's be real—is any court actually going to have the guts to prosecute a sick person for trying to survive?
I don't get why everyone has stopped reading up and researching how useful LDN can be. Why is everyone so incredibly negative all of a sudden?
It honestly breaks my heart to see people—especially the younger ones—dealing with autoimmune diseases. They end up in the hospital twice a year, and you have a 25-year-old girl telling you, "I'm done with everything, I'd rather just kill myself." Meanwhile, there's actually something out there, like LDN, that would most likely help her get her life back on track.
And yet, you’re standing there blocking people from getting the help they need. To me, that’s just messed up.
Angela Wright, I don't know much about that specific law, and yeah, I guess it's the same deal in other places like the UK. But think about it: someone is seriously ill, standard meds aren't doing a damn thing, but an alternative actually works. Now, because of some rule, they're supposed to just follow the law and refuse what actually helps? While their quality of life hits rock bottom or they literally die?
So they'd rather just die because they have to follow the rules? That's pure stupidity if you ask me. I read on one forum that half the people taking LDN in the UK are getting it through mail order, essentially bypassing the system. But let's be real—is any court actually going to have the guts to prosecute a sick person for trying to survive?
I don't get why everyone has stopped reading up and researching how useful LDN can be. Why is everyone so incredibly negative all of a sudden?
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No, no... a post like this just won't fly... sorry... "they're selling it, it's the cheapest, here's the address"... please, just avoid writing like that.
No, no... a post like this just won't fly... sorry... "they're selling it, it's the cheapest, here's the address"... please, just avoid writing like that.
My bad, I just stumbled onto some new info that might actually be useful for some of you:
The big-shot TV doctor Chris Steel over at ITV made this intense plea regarding LDN. He’s arguing it’s incredibly effective for tons of different conditions. Basically, if the NHS actually started using it more, we'd see way fewer sick people and save billions of dollars currently being wasted on expensive meds.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA
Even ABC aired a segment on LDN—really positive stuff too. It featured a deep dive with renowned doctors like Dr. Zagon and Dr. Jill Smith.
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...rts&id=6156884
You can even find info on LDN via the official Scottish Parliament pages:
http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/s3...09-PE1296D.pdf
If you're looking for sources, Skip's Pharmacy in Florida is one of the most well-known spots for LDN. Their website has some solid info:
http://www.skipspharmacy.com/home.php
They carry LDN in both 3 mg and 4.5 mg capsule doses.
Dickson Pharmacy in Glasgow does the same thing, and they've got it for about $27 a month.
http://www.ldnresearchtrust.org/uplo...s-pharmacy.pdf
Also, a few other sites are reporting that LDN is being used in treating glioblastoma.
Hope I didn't step on anyone's toes with this post.
And for the record, I am NOT selling LDN and I don't have any business ties to this medication whatsoever.
The big-shot TV doctor Chris Steel over at ITV made this intense plea regarding LDN. He’s arguing it’s incredibly effective for tons of different conditions. Basically, if the NHS actually started using it more, we'd see way fewer sick people and save billions of dollars currently being wasted on expensive meds.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA
Even ABC aired a segment on LDN—really positive stuff too. It featured a deep dive with renowned doctors like Dr. Zagon and Dr. Jill Smith.
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...rts&id=6156884
You can even find info on LDN via the official Scottish Parliament pages:
http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/s3...09-PE1296D.pdf
If you're looking for sources, Skip's Pharmacy in Florida is one of the most well-known spots for LDN. Their website has some solid info:
http://www.skipspharmacy.com/home.php
They carry LDN in both 3 mg and 4.5 mg capsule doses.
Dickson Pharmacy in Glasgow does the same thing, and they've got it for about $27 a month.
http://www.ldnresearchtrust.org/uplo...s-pharmacy.pdf
Also, a few other sites are reporting that LDN is being used in treating glioblastoma.
Hope I didn't step on anyone's toes with this post.
And for the record, I am NOT selling LDN and I don't have any business ties to this medication whatsoever.
Look, I'm with you. All this bickering is just stupid noise and doesn't matter. What actually matters? Someone coming forward with real-world experience using LDN. That’s the only thing worth hearing about!