Posts by Robin Rodriguez5

slypanther5 said:Just scroll up and you'll see they were already saying the same thing four days ago.

Yeah, I was told earlier this week that his schedule was booked solid for Washington, D.C. this summer too, but it never would have crossed my mind that we were talking about Coachella.

Dennis Lee87 said:What was announced back on June 20th?

It’ll be out in a few days. 😉
Most people here probably won't enjoy the show, but they'll likely move a ton of tickets anyway.

Man, Chicago is going to be absolutely packed with massive shows this June. Bob Dylan just got announced, and from what I'm hearing, there’s another huge concert hitting the schedule on June 20th.

feraltrucker5 said:That isn't respect; it's just social conditioning. 😁

Half the composers we treat like untouchable icons today were probably being laughed at in their own time.

It's just socially conditioned snobbery, plain and simple. 🍿

Pretty much. 👍
Alter-snobizam, which is actually worse than standard snobbery because those people find basic pretentiousness absolutely revolting. 😁

hollowseal33 said:I'm picturing Beethoven
starting his Ode to Joy
as this guy frantically sprinting from one instrument to the next
trying to play everything at once
but he just can't keep up

and ends up breaking down in tears.
😢

Believe it or not, Beethoven wrote way more than just symphonies—in fact, most of his catalog isn't even symphonic. Plus, he started out primarily as a pianist (playing other people's stuff, mind you) long before he became the legendary composer we know today. That Ninth Symphony you're thinking of? That was actually one of his final major works.

stormywolf39 said:It’s actually quite the opposite. The whole reason modern musical notation evolved was to ensure that someone other than the composer could actually perform the piece. It was essentially the first step toward mass production—you can trace that shift right back to when the first operas were being staged around 1597. If you're looking for anything earlier than that, what are you going to suggest? Going back to the Middle Ages?

wiredfalcon2: A bend can be great, it can be total garbage, or I can just not give a damn about it. So, where's the actual problem here? 🤷

It’s a total myth that classical composers just sat around writing scores without ever touching their own instruments. Sure, they weren't performing massive orchestral works solo, but piano and organ compositions? That was their bread and butter. We're talking about everyone from Bach through the Viennese masters all the way to Chopin. And when it came to full orchestral pieces, more often than not, the composers were right there on the podium conducting the damn thing themselves.

Now they’re suddenly pulling the "tragicomedy" card to justify why it was done that way—claiming recording technology just wasn't up to par back then. So, I guess that makes it okay? Fine. Whatever. 😁 Sure, we don't know exactly how Bach or Mozart played their instruments, but using that as an excuse is honestly laughable. 😁

The Beatles have sheet music out there. What's the actual issue? 🤷

Drew Adams58 said:Maybe it’s because Mozart and Beethoven didn't record their own albums, whereas he does. Since they’re dead, they can't exactly file a complaint. But honestly, you're comparing Mozart to tribute bands.
I get why you feel the need to play defense, though. 😁

So you're suggesting Ciccolini was the first one to ever record Mozart or Beethoven? He’s certainly not the first, and he won't be the last. Besides, nobody ever attacks a composer just because they aren't performing their own original work.

Drew Adams58 said:@ Banderas: Sure, but keep in mind most classical pieces were composed long before recording technology existed. They were written specifically to be performed by someone else, and the whole way people consumed music back then was fundamentally different.

If we’re following that logic, how did Ciccolin become a global superstar just by playing piano pieces by Mozart and Beethoven? He released albums of his interpretations where he barely touched a single note, and they sold millions of copies. I don't recall anyone ever calling him out for it—maybe the folks over at Reddit should check in on him? (He's still breathing, as far as I know.)

stormywolf39 said:What does that have to do with anything? Are you talking about those modern arrangements someone else slapped together later? I find that kind of stuff pretty pointless too, but the whole point of a classic is its original purpose—which, in classical music, always included the fact that anyone could pick it up and play it eventually.

The idea that "classical" exists just so someone else can play it isn't the core point. Before orchestral performances became a mass-produced commodity, composers actually played their own work.

The Beatles have an absurdly massive catalog of orchestral arrangements—honestly, more than some classical composers. Does that make it just another cheap tribute act?

It feels like tribute bands here only ever play at local dive bars. People don't seem to realize how niche this scene still is in America. In other places, they hold massive weekly events dedicated to this; take the Beatle Week festival, for instance, where hundreds of Beatles tribute acts fly in from all over the globe. It’s the exact same deal with Leonard Cohen.
This whole "tribute bands suck" argument is hollow from start to finish—if they actually had something of value to say, they’d be out there creating their own damn music. Using the classics as an example is just lazy; 99% of what people call "classic" today started as tributes. The only real difference is the scale and the polish. You guys aren't even arguing about quality or execution; you're just obsessed with the fact that it’s a cover 🙄 Attacking the very concept of a tribute act is honestly just tragicomic.

Harold Wells20 said:Is this some kind of joke or 🤔

Just a quick reality check: the whole "they need to write their own material" argument is incredibly hollow. Authorship and performance are two completely different beasts, and conflating them is like comparing apples to oranges. People love to lean on the idea that if a band were actually good, they’d be doing their own thing. Honestly? I’d much rather listen to a group of incredible performers who never wrote a single note of their own. Think about bands like The Beach Boys during certain eras—the execution matters more than the songwriting when the playing is that tight.

Pogorelić is a joke 😛 I have more respect for Vatra and Ramirez than I do for Pogorelić, Ciccolin, or Rostropovich... What’s the point? They spend twenty years in school just to spend their entire lives playing other people's music. And they actually gained worldwide fame doing it. It’s pathetic... He can play Mozart for me all he wants, but if he can't create something original, what's the point? 🙄

Noah Edwards said:So where are they actually coming from?

kset

Kyle Jackson54 said:If memory serves, I’ve shelled out for both Beatles and The Cure tribute shows before. Both were actually pretty decent. I actually enjoyed The Beatles revival more because they didn't just try to mimic every single breath the originals took; they actually seemed to have their own vibe. But that was ages ago, so maybe my memory is playing tricks on me.

Then you'll end up disappointed by that Beatles tribute coming through in May. 🤣

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROhSoEcHTfg

Lawrence Wright7 said:When you're stuck between two evils, you just have to pick one... there's no other way forward.
I’ve already liquidated everything of value. Honestly, I’m riding a bicycle now and living more frugally than I ever thought possible. Selling my car finally cleared my overdraft, so I’m sitting at zero right now—but it’s a temporary zero, a fleeting moment of peace because the next installment is coming due, and then the one after that, and so on... it never stops.
What do you think I should do???

The weight of this is crushing me. The stress is constant; it's wrecking my health, I'm spiraling, I work, I save... I save, I sacrifice everything, yet I still find myself sinking deeper into the red. I just need a moment to breathe... to actually recover, mentally and physically.
My plan:
I'm thinking about going with option two. Suppose they grant me a 12-month moratorium during that period of the loan$0.00—that would give me enough room to catch my breath.
THE PLAN:
- Save aggressively like I have been to scrape together about $10000. (It would be a lifesaver to have that cushion for the upcoming payments)
- Rent the place out to tourists... hopefully, that brings in some decent cash if things go well..
- Take in some boarders until summer... I already posted an ad and prepped a room. That should bring in a little something.
- Once summer hits, there will be better opportunities to pick up extra shifts or side gigs for more cash.
- As a last resort, if nothing else works, I’ll have a year to move back to the Midwest to be near my parents and find a new job. I could rent the whole apartment to a young family and just cover the difference myself... say, the place goes for $833 + I chip in $1,000-$500... I could manage that until things stabilize.
- For the absolute endgame... I’ll sell the place. I picked it up at a steal for $1,050 per sq ft, and it's fully renovated.

One of these things has to work.

That needs to be your first move, not your last resort. I don't know which city you're in, but if you snagged it at such a bargain, you could probably offload it today for roughly what you paid—maybe a little less—just to get that mortgage off your back and start fresh. Look, a condo isn't an "investment" in this scenario; it’s a noose around your neck. Now is definitely not the time to be daydreaming about leaving it to your kids.

If you wait 6 to 12 months, the property value might tank further while your debt stays just as high.
You made a bad financial call, and there is absolutely no reason to white-knuckle it just out of pride.

Noah Myers67 said:04/28/1999

http://www.bobsboots.com/CDs/cd-r28.html

Facts. My brain keeps glitching and telling me it was 1997, even though I was actually there at the show.😵

hollowseal33 said:Sure, you can bet Muse or Crystal Castles will cost you more than Nick Cave, Franz Ferdinand, Sonic Youth, Pixies, Kraftwerk, Moby, Neutral Milk Hotel, and Morrissey all rolled into one. 😁 If you think you understand how the promotion game actually works, you’re kidding yourself. 😁

When Muse played in New York City—I can't even remember what those tickets ran back then—they were way more expensive than anyone on this list. Maybe not all of them combined, but they were easily about three times the price of the next closest thing.

It’s gut-wrenching.

Bob Dylan 97.
Basically, Canada was the only part of the old Yugoslavia that didn't get hit by the war (if you don't count that brief five-day skirmish back in '91 😁), so it makes total sense that they were the first ones hosting major concerts. You also have to factor in that even before the conflict, they were the wealthiest republic, meaning they could actually afford things the rest of us couldn't. Simple as that.
But that was a different era entirely. These days, Ljubljana sees fewer big shows than Chicago or Belgrade.