Posts by Richard Perez3

Jason Ortiz5 said:Basically, you're just expanding on my point: there's zero use in teaching someone they're obligated to clean up someone else's garbage; everyone needs to learn how to sweep up their own. 🤷

Nah, actually, it's the exact opposite.
That’s the only thing that actually pays off in the long run.
Take the Benigan's example.

Back when I used to wait tables, the absolute worst part wasn't even the bad tips or the crazy customers—it was those people who’d just stand there at the bar and absolutely wreck the ashtrays. They'd leave ash everywhere, all over the counter, just because they had one right in front of them, one on the left, and one on the right. Just total lack of respect for the space. Truly unbelievable.
I'm done. I am officially through with working shifts at bars. Never again. I’ve done my time, and honestly? I'm over it.
I mean, whatever. They're already over there anyway, and they'll have to clean up the mess regardless. I honestly hadn't even given it a second thought.
But that's when I really lost it.

Same goes for everything else.
Knowing how things work in our local city councils, I’ve realized that people don't just refuse to clean up their own messes—they won't even let anyone else touch them.
Honestly, they should just let them spend one day a week cleaning up all the crap. Their own mess and everyone else's too, while they're down there under the sea.
You aren't gonna do a damn thing until you feel the burn yourself. It's easy to talk big when it's not your neck on the line, right? You don't care because it doesn't hurt you. Until it hits home, you're just blowing smoke.
It’s yours. It smells like you, and honestly? It doesn't bother me one bit.
It took me a long time to finally get it—that you actually have to clean up after yourself. Like, it’s not just some chore someone else does; it’s something you gotta feel like is your own responsibility. It’s gotta be a necessity, you know? Not something you drag your feet on, but just part of being an adult.
I honestly think this is a way better way to learn than just leaving it sitting there like it’s some thing they can just... I don't even know, ignore? It's just common sense. Whatever. Look, let's talk about adoption. It’s a heavy topic, but we need to get into it. People always have an opinion on how families should be built, but honestly? It’s complicated. There’s no one-size-fits-all manual for this kind of stuff.

Jason Ortiz5 said:So, let me get this straight: if my kid cleans up someone else's mess, is the kid who actually made the mess suddenly going to have some epiphany and realize that wasn't okay?

And honestly, I never agreed with making the innocent party clean up after others—not even back when I was in school. All that taught me was that the people caught in the crossfire usually get screwed over, while the ones constantly causing trouble are experts at acting sweet and innocent just to trick everyone else into being their errand runners.

See, that's exactly why this whole setup works for everyone involved—no exceptions. There aren't any innocent bystanders or clueless idiots left hanging around to mess things up.

Jason Ortiz5 said:By the way, I'm a woman. My handle and my avatar pretty much give that away. Since basic logic seems to be a struggle for you, I’m just gonna call it quits here. Honestly, I don't think it's possible to have a real conversation with someone who thinks a single Facebook page is a perfect representation of how the whole country feels.

Not to mention the lack of literacy, the bluntness, and just general saltiness... But hey, feel free to keep rambling about how some obscure tool is going to be the magic fix for the nation's prosperity.

If I can jump in here for a sec.
Honestly, I think the best thing we could actually do for our kids and their future is teach them how to clean up their own crap.
And they gotta be the ones doing it.
If people want to reduce the amount of cleaning needed, they should probably just start by reducing the amount of—well, crap.
Both figuratively and literally.
Dead serious.

When some random group of people handles all your messes, you never actually learn what you're doing.
Instead, you've got a whole bunch of parents cleaning up after their kids forever, and then we act shocked when young adults turn out the way they do.
The Japanese have a solid concept down.
Even if it comes with a lot of pressure.
I’d much rather aim for excellence than just washing my hands of responsibility and duty.

Not sure if I’m making sense, but everything I said applies both ways—literally and metaphorically.

Look, if a whole crowd of people gives you the green light to push things back without any drama, sorry, but you can't just claim it happened because you felt like it.

Honestly, I’m baffled by how much you’re selling your kid short.
On one hand, you’re saying everything’s fine, but then you flip the script and claim they’re gonna struggle with schoolwork, fail to grasp concepts, can't get anything right, and basically need constant tutoring...
And you're basing this whole outlook on yourself—on what happened when you were just a kid struggling to find your footing. For you
, things were rough. But look, you aren't your child, and your child isn't you.
By trying to shield them—who knows from what, though it sounds like your own baggage—you're actually doing them a massive disservice.
Seriously.
The only thing that’s actually going to sabotage a healthy kid in this situation is you not believing in what they can do.

I honestly have no clue how all those specialists managed to sign off on this.
A close friend of mine has a kid with really obvious developmental delays, and before the school doctor even laid eyes on the child, her first response was basically, "We don't just hand out deferrals easily, and I rarely grant them."
I mean, fine—once she actually saw the medical reports and met the kid, she approved it, but we all know you don't just get those things handed over just because a parent asks.
I'm lost.

You’re getting all worked up over nothing.
Are you even reading what you wrote?
You literally said you teach your kid not to settle for blackmail, which basically implies everyone else is out here teaching their kids that stuff, and then suddenly you’re like, "who even says you're teaching kids..." Like, by saying *you* don't do it, you're pretty much admitting other people do.

Anyway, whatever, I'm too exhausted to play these mental games with you.
I just think you're being way too dismissive about this whole thing, acting like "oh, you don't teach your child to get hung up on fake friendships" is some deep insight.
Nobody here is doing that.
Your comment was just a total generalization.
Now that we've hopefully moved past that and you've realized everyone else is looking at this the same way, let's move on.
Does a kid even have the right to feel disappointed when they realize a friend isn't actually a friend anymore—due to broken trust?

Man, you're just preaching here. I’m sure as hell not raising my kid to stress out over fake friends. And we actually talk about this stuff. 😁
Like, is it a crime to talk about feelings?
Look, I teach my kid everything, but getting them to face certain truths involves some serious emotional baggage. Like, imagine your best friend suddenly judges you for something totally out of your control—something that shouldn't even matter to the friendship. A kid has to process that mess first.
Our job is to help them through it if we can.
Or at least not make it worse.
Just because we adults are sitting here discussing this doesn't mean we're teaching kids to cave to blackmail.
If anything, it's the exact opposite. That's why we're talking about it.

Quincy:

Lawrence Torres56 I can't even begin to process what they just said. Seriously. It’s like some people just wake up and decide to be completely disconnected from reality. I'm sitting here staring at my screen, rubbing my temples, thinking, "Is this guy for real?" It's honestly exhausting dealing with this kind of nonsense. Every time I think we've hit rock bottom with these discussions, someone comes along and digs a hole right under us. Just... wow. Typical. Honestly, it’s not even an insult. It’s just a massive red flag showing exactly what kind of people he hangs out with.👍 And besides, do you guys seriously think kids in school are actually sitting around talking about religious stuff? Like, give me a break. It’s all video games and crushes. That's it. 😍

Look, it’s always a mess when a friend suddenly turns on you like that. It's tough, I get it. But honestly? Most of the time, they’re just acting out because of all that stupid stuff they were raised with. It's just human stupidity, passed down from parents to kids. Typical.
Yeah, they’re talking. You wouldn't think so just looking at them, but they're definitely talking.

Ugh, give me a break. Why are you getting all worked up over me? 😁
🤣
Honestly, both of those things are dealbreakers for me. The visit, the cartoon, the "serious talk," and then throwing religious materials at me?
Why am I putting up with this? Let’s just say I’m a polite, tolerant person who prefers to think things were just misunderstood or poorly timed before jumping to conclusions. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt.
That’s exactly how it went down at first with that conversation and the religious stuff, so I spoke up.
And then everything went quiet.
Then suddenly there’s this visit involving a cartoon.
Now I’m sitting here wondering if I’m actually losing my mind or what.
Look, obviously I’m not going to go nuclear and start threatening to call the Department of Education immediately—I can't just be a total wreck. 😁

I don't really care.
Nah, I wouldn't go to the principal about it because...
Because honestly, that feels like a total last resort.
Plus, the school year is basically over anyway.
And look, I’m trying to avoid getting my ass kicked if I can help it.
Besides, I could use the break from this forum too. 😁

lonemaker said:To be honest, I don't see any issue with the fact that they were only invited. 🕺 I’m not exactly a fan of religious education in public schools, but I don't see much difference between inviting a kid to sit in on a religion class just to watch a cartoon versus a German teacher asking a student who isn't enrolled to drop by for a session where they're watching a documentary. That’s one thing. But trying to bait them into signing up for next year? That’s a whole different story.

If he was invited politely and nobody forced him to show up at that specific time, he could have just given a polite refusal. I get it—to a little kid, watching cartoons sounds way more appealing than hanging out in a library, but I wouldn't make a huge deal out of this. Nothing illegal happened here. You just need to explain to your child why they aren't attending religious studies and then ask the teacher who invited them to stop sending those invites. It only becomes an issue if she keeps pushing after you've explicitly asked her to stop.

I officially opted my kid out of the religious studies classes.
Then, behind my back and without asking me, she goes and has this whole "serious talk" with him.
After that, she starts shoving religious quizzes and songs in his face.
So, I went to the teacher and made it crystal clear: stop doing this. I can't stand it, and I'm telling you right now, don't take this approach with my kid.
And then, this happens.

Now, you tell me—does that sound problematic to you?
Because from where I'm sitting, it definitely does.

I mean, that’s why I’ve got you guys—all you smart, decent people 🙂 someone’s bound to give me some inspiration eventually. Maybe even you, but honestly, not until this therapy actually starts kicking in. 😁

Look, it’s absolutely insane to be getting threatened with a ban. I’m apparently the one under investigation here because I dared to call out someone for ignoring what I want, while this person—who’s out here threatening to go to the press and get people kicked off—is suddenly playing doctor? They’re throwing diagnoses at me after just two posts without having any clue what’s actually going on.

I couldn't care less about other parents and their little drama sagas. What I actually care about is whether or not I can actually enforce my rights and how I'm gonna do it.

I mean, why would I even complain about someone bringing up mental health? Honestly, it was a pretty constructive point and actually helps with figuring out how to deal with all these idiots we're fighting. God help us. But hey, now that you’ve finally caught up to my line of thinking—that nobody here actually knows what they're doing—why don't you try being rational for once? Give me a practical way to handle this mess that won't just end in some clinical diagnosis, but actually gives me the answer I'm looking for.

Keith Miller30 said:I mean this without any intention of being offensive, but have you perhaps considered talking to a therapist? This starts to feel a bit paranoid.

I truly don't mean to insult you, but this is right up there with those people who see the FBI behind every single shadow.

If religious education isn't something you're comfortable with for your child, just opt them out; go to the teacher and explain that it conflicts with your beliefs and your parenting style, and it's all settled.

I am entirely in favor of having religious studies in schools, though I do believe it shouldn't be scheduled during the first or last period, but is it really fair to force a student to participate in something their parents have explicitly asked them to avoid?

Maybe I am. And how does that change anything? Like what you clearly didn't read, this isn't my first time dealing with this kind of crap, and it obviously won't be my last, though I wish it wasn't. So, Mr. Friendly, what would you suggest after finding out everything's already been done, yet you're still being 'invited over' specifically because of the things they're supposedly against?

I might need a shrink for plenty of other reasons, but honestly, not for this one.

Yeah, I’ve got some right here on this thread.

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Isn't that just straight-up brainwashing?

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Honestly, I'm giving him exactly what he deserves.

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Nah, I just found out last night. And yeah, that was literally yesterday. Nobody said a word, and there wasn't even a hint of a paper trail to follow.
If I’d had any idea, you really think I’d be sitting here typing this out?

The kids were hanging out in the library with the librarian, who basically had nowhere else to be since her entire job is being stuck in that building.
The only way things change is if she’s gone, then the teacher steps in.
Honestly, it blows my mind that neither one was actually there, which is why they supposedly went "visiting" elsewhere.
Something feels seriously off about this. It doesn't just smell fishy; if I were running things, I'd cut ties immediately because this looks like nothing more than propaganda to brainwash the kids for next year.