Schizophrenia - General Discussion
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Richard White8, you actually in the States right now?
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Richard White8 said:Fine, go ahead and stick with Elon Musk. I was told it's an old-school medication that doctors are moving away from now. If it works for you, great. For me, even 1 mg of Elon Musk caused my leg to seize up once. And yeah, Risperidone was a nightmare for me too.
Richard White8 said:For example, what is the CDC? I haven't heard of them here. I have no idea what they are talking about. Any kind of conflict would only make things worse. The US has been part of the EU for years now, yet we aren't seeing any actual improvement. Eventually, Canada will join the EU too. There won't be any more wars. The global superpowers won't allow it because it simply doesn't serve their interests anymore.
As for your medication, are you taking Moditen? You should consider trying something newer—Seroquel, Zyprexa, Azolar, or Zeldox. I used to take Moditen combined with Zeldox. My psychiatrist eventually stopped me from taking Moditen because it’s quite potent; long-term use can cause muscle spasms or issues with eye rolling.
Jose Ward4 said:What can I honestly tell you? You’re unfortunately right about almost everything. But being right isn't the solution itself. War doesn't lead to answers, and neither does revolution. Every single revolution just births a new system or a new war—never actual stability. We need evolution. You know? Not revolution, because that just leads to more chaos. Look at Scandinavia; they have six-hour workdays. And remember, the whole eight-hour workday concept was actually pioneered by Henry Ford with his first major plants back in the day, and we've been stuck with it ever since. Now, everyone seems to be saying, "Look what Henry Ford did to us." But if I recall correctly, research from NASA suggests that a person—man or woman—simply cannot maintain full concentration for eight hours straight. Focus drops off a cliff after four or five hours of continuous labor. It's physically impossible to work the way we do now. It kills productivity and steals time from ourselves, our kids, and our families. Sadly, this foundational knowledge has been buried by the media, drowning out the wisdom we used to hold onto. That connection to nature, that fundamental relationship with the earth... I truly believe things will change. Maybe not in my lifetime, but the status quo has to break. It simply has to. Even now, people are pushing back against bankers and the entire industrial complex. I think I saw a clip where Trump was visiting somewhere in Europe, and there were massive protests by young people specifically targeting bankers and those types of institutions. Someone might argue, "Hey, banks are fine; they help you afford things you can't pay for upfront." But the real question is: why can't you afford it in the first place? We need a government led by the most capable people. Besides, let's call them what they are: legalized loan sharks. The state basically legalized the practice of someone lending you money just so they can profit off you. It's legal usury. It's rule by the strongest. As far as I know, back in the early 1920s, we didn't even have modern banking or property mortgages like we do today. It wasn't until insurance companies arrived in the US that home mortgages became a thing, simply because they saw a massive way to make money. People ask how anyone built houses, cottages, or churches before all this. Back then, the whole neighborhood would build it. You needed a house for your family? You get married? No problem, we'll all chip in and build it with you, and then later on, you help someone else when they need it. That's how it worked. Now, people wonder how it's possible without a banker. Everything is possible if there is collective will. And just to add a quick thought regarding sleep. According to traditional Chinese medicine, you should really be asleep by 11 PM. That's when your body flushes out toxins during deep sleep. While you rest, you regenerate, which you probably already know. But that's also when the detoxification happens. If you find yourself waking up to pee around 4 or 5 AM, it's often a sign that your body is trying to process a heavy load of toxins quickly during the night. It's not a crisis, but it's a signal. You just need to stop consuming toxins—like coffee or too much liquid—before 8 PM, for example. I know this because I went through it myself. Real diabetes concerns arise when you're waking up so often that you can't get any actual rest. When the constant trips to the bathroom prevent you from sleeping normally, that's when you really need to worry.
Rebecca Rivera3 said:Maybe I'm wrong, but I've noticed one thing: highly spiritual and intelligent people seem to lean toward these kinds of illnesses more often...
And it’s honestly sad. That's why I find myself clinging to the idea of getting my PhD if I can manage it. It feels like it might offer some solace. Between my concentration issues, compulsions, social phobia—not to mention everything else that's even worse—getting through college is a struggle. Just functioning in life is hard. I see you all wondering if you could even handle an eight-hour workday; I ask myself the same thing. When I finally get to campus, I wonder if I'll have the stamina to stay through a lecture, show up, and actually look okay doing it.
It's embarrassing to deal with mental health struggles. Richard White8 described it perfectly; you don't want even your closest family to know. You feel ashamed, like it makes you weak or lesser than everyone else... though it shouldn't be that way.
Vitamins help, but they make me nauseous. Most pills do, and my stomach is just a mess. I don't smoke or drink, though I do love coffee—even if it gives me heartburn. In the evenings, while the rest of the world is asleep, I love to just lie down and stare at the stars, imagining I'm on some distant planet far away from all these problems.
Richard White8 said:Exactly, and these heavy medications just drain your body. You need to eat plenty of vitamins and fruit, which I don't do. I supplement heavily with vitamins, Omega-3, magnesium, and curcumin. I definitely have less energy than I did before starting the meds. These drugs cause excessive sleepiness, yet sometimes you can't sleep at all. They have downsides, certainly, but they have upsides too. In my case, the medication had its benefits. Psychiatrists know their stuff, but if any of them had actually lived through psychosis and taken these drugs themselves, they might think differently. And honestly, with these diagnoses, functioning is hard enough, let alone working. Why doesn't the government provide some form of assistance or disability support? I wouldn't even dare ask to be declared disabled; what would happen to me then?
In England, people receive social assistance if they are over 330 pounds or have certain illnesses, and the state helps them. But here in America, you have to hide the fact that you were ever sick. If you show up for a job interview and mention you've dealt with psychosis or schizophrenia, your chances of getting hired are zero. It’s easiest for those working at state institutions. Luckily, a friend of mine works at a university, so no one can fault him for being ill or fire him for it. But if you work for a private company and end up in the psych ward three times in a year, you'd be fired on the spot.
It's not like we chose this. Who in their right mind would choose mental illness? If you're treating cancer, everyone is full of compassion, but if you're treating schizophrenia, you're labeled a lunatic and everyone avoids you. That's why it's best not to tell anyone what's really going on. Just your closest friends. Maybe not even family.
I'm looking for work, but I don't know if I'm capable of enduring eight hours of labor every single day. What kind of divine punishment is this? We'll all go to paradise like saints. Or perhaps in the next reincarnation, we'll all be Buddhas. haha
Do these heavy-duty meds just completely drain you? Because they definitely do. You really have to load up on vitamins—like, tons of them. Fruit too, though I can't say I’m much of a fruit eater myself. Personally, I’m constantly slamming supplements—omega-3s, magnesium, curcumin, you name it. I feel like I have way less energy than I did before I started this whole medication thing. And then there's the sleep situation... sometimes you're just out cold for hours, and other times, you can't catch a wink of sleep to save your life. They definitely have their downsides. But, look, they have good sides too. In my own experience, there were actually some genuine benefits to taking them.
Psychiatrists act like they have all the answers, but honestly? If any of them had actually lived through a psychotic break or dealt with the reality of being on these meds, they’d probably think differently. It’s easy to talk theory from a clinical desk, but it's a different story when you're the one actually dealing with it. And let's be real—with these kinds of diagnoses, just functioning on a daily basis is a massive struggle, let alone trying to hold down a job. You'd think the government would step up with some kind of support or disability benefits, right? But instead, you're just left hanging. I don't even dare to apply for disability myself—I mean, what would happen if they actually declared me unfit for work? What am I supposed to do then? Just sit there? It's a catch-22.
Over in England, they actually get social assistance if you're over 330 lbs or dealing with chronic illnesses—the state actually steps up. But here in the States? You have to hide the fact that you’ve ever been sick. You show up for a job interview and mention you’ve dealt with psychosis or schizophrenia... your chances of getting hired are basically zero. It’s best to stick to those government agencies. Luckily, a friend of mine works at a university, so no one can breathe down his neck about his health or fire him for it. But if you work for a private company and end up in the psych ward three times a year? You'd be gone in a heartbeat.
Like we actually chose this. Who in their right mind would choose mental illness? If you're fighting cancer, everyone's full of sympathy, but if you're treating schizophrenia, you're just a "lunatic" that everyone avoids. That's why it's better not to tell anyone what's actually going on. Maybe just your closest friends. Honestly, maybe not even family.
I'm looking for work, but I honestly don't know if I'm capable of grinding through 8 hours every single day. What kind of divine punishment is this? I guess we'll all go to paradise like saints. Or maybe in the next reincarnation, we'll all just be cattle. haha
Rebecca Rivera3 said:I believe this kind of situation often develops due to a genetic predisposition triggered by specific stressors. Whether it reaches a breaking point or doesn't manifest at all usually depends on one's environment.
In my case, my entire father's side of the family deals with illness. For the past year, I didn't face major issues beyond some depression, but then everything else started hitting me. To be honest, I probably should have been hospitalized several times more; my intelligence always seems to pull me through, or at least that’s what my psychiatrist claims. When a psychosis hit me—one I hadn't mentioned to anyone before—I ended up lying on the floor under a blanket with nothing but a towel for cover. I genuinely thought the world outside was shaking and that if I got off the floor, I would die. I stayed there for days, taking whatever medication I had just to numb myself enough to quiet the voices, repeating that cycle until I finally found the strength to get up. I was terrified of it happening again.
When I looked in the mirror, I saw a total stranger. Once I pulled myself together and saw how neglected I looked—thin, disheveled, with long hair because I couldn't bring myself to care for it—it became too much to handle. I realized things had gone too far. There was nothing left to do but learn to live with it and try to pull myself together, which is exactly what I've attempted to do.
However, it has returned, and I find myself withdrawing inward. I am deeply afraid of losing my mind. I don't talk about my psychotic episodes anymore; instead, I hide them because I'm scared of being institutionalized or something worse. When it takes hold, I lose control, so I shut myself away where no one can see or hear me, just waiting for it to pass.
Visionary, I also struggle with stomach issues because of my lack of eating, so I rely on various tablets and ointments for my stomach.
And now I’m supposed to start antipsychotics, but I really don't want to. I admit, I haven't been taking them. The reason is simple: they don't even work for my specific condition, and they would just sedate me even further until I become a complete zombie, which I refuse to be.
It’s just like this from time to time... whenever I start talking more, I tend to withdraw. I rarely go out for coffee with anyone; usually, I only leave the house when absolutely necessary.
I just want to be healthy. Is that really too much to ask?
Rebecca Rivera3 said:I believe this kind of situation often develops due to a genetic predisposition triggered by specific stressors. Whether it reaches a breaking point or doesn't manifest at all usually depends on one's environment.
In my case, my entire father's side of the family deals with illness. For the past year, I didn't face major issues beyond some depression, but then everything else started hitting me. To be honest, I probably should have been hospitalized several times more; my intelligence always seems to pull me through, or at least that’s what my psychiatrist claims. When a psychosis hit me—one I hadn't mentioned to anyone before—I ended up lying on the floor under a blanket with nothing but a towel for cover. I genuinely thought the world outside was shaking and that if I got off the floor, I would die. I stayed there for days, taking whatever medication I had just to numb myself enough to quiet the voices, repeating that cycle until I finally found the strength to get up. I was terrified of it happening again.
When I looked in the mirror, I saw a total stranger. Once I pulled myself together and saw how neglected I looked—thin, disheveled, with long hair because I couldn't bring myself to care for it—it became too much to handle. I realized things had gone too far. There was nothing left to do but learn to live with it and try to pull myself together, which is exactly what I've attempted to do.
However, it has returned, and I find myself withdrawing inward. I am deeply afraid of losing my mind. I don't talk about my psychotic episodes anymore; instead, I hide them because I'm scared of being institutionalized or something worse. When it takes hold, I lose control, so I shut myself away where no one can see or hear me, just waiting for it to pass.
Visionary, I also struggle with stomach issues because of my lack of eating, so I rely on various tablets and ointments for my stomach.
And now I’m supposed to start antipsychotics, but I really don't want to. I admit, I haven't been taking them. The reason is simple: they don't even work for my specific condition, and they would just sedate me even further until I become a complete zombie, which I refuse to be.
It’s just like this from time to time... whenever I start talking more, I tend to withdraw. I rarely go out for coffee with anyone; usually, I only leave the house when absolutely necessary.
I just want to be healthy. Is that really too much to ask?
Richard White8 said:Risperidone is genuinely toxic. I was visiting a friend in the hospital when his psychiatrist told him she wouldn't prescribe Risperidone because, in younger men, it causes severe fatigue—basically, it completely crushes you.
Curses don't exist. That's nonsense. You even have university professors who believe in curses and carry chestnuts in their cars for luck. It's superstition. My issue was that I spent four years in a psychosis fueled by curses, voices, and demons. If I hadn't believed in curses, maybe I would have avoided the psychosis, or maybe not. It was inevitable. You can't control it, and you can't be self-aware enough to know you're in a psychosis. Because when you're in a psychosis, everything is real, and there is no other way to perceive it.
Raymond Walker5 said:I’m certainly no expert on schizophrenia (thank goodness!), but since I saw B-complex mentioned, I thought I’d chime in with a little observation. I’ve heard that B vitamins—especially B-12—can be notoriously difficult for the body to absorb, particularly when they come in pill form. I’ve also heard stories from others who felt a massive difference once they switched to a liquid B-complex, especially when standard tablets just weren't doing the trick. The logic seems to be that a liquid version hits the upper digestive tract and gets absorbed much more efficiently, whereas pills might travel through such a long path that absorption becomes difficult or even impossible by the time they get where they need to go.
From what I can tell, you don't see much liquid B-complex available in our local pharmacies here in the States, though they do carry liquid supplements designed for toddlers that contain essentially the same nutritional profile as a full B-complex. I can't recall the specific brand name off the top of my head, but that's just something I picked up while chatting with a pharmacist.
I did notice that I occasionally feel a bit more relaxed after drinking some Juicy Fruit flavored electrolyte drinks, which might just be a total coincidence. Looking back, I realized those drinks actually contain a whole B-complex, similar to how Coca-Cola or other fortified sodas work.
Whether that sense of relaxation was a genuine effect of the vitamins or just a fluke, I honestly couldn't say for sure. I probably wouldn't recommend them as a primary supplement, though, mainly because of some of the additives used, even if most of the ingredients are naturally derived.
Richard White8 said:Here is some validation regarding psychotropic medication. I have taken Azolar, Moditen, Haldol, and Zeldox. I was on Zeldox the longest—monotherapy, starting at high doses of 2 x 80 mg, then tapering down to 80 mg, then 60 mg, and finally 20 mg. After one year and nine months of continuous antipsychotic use, I have successfully eliminated my auditory hallucinations. Yes.
My diagnosis is F23.2—acute psychotic disorder, schizophrenia-like.
Alongside those, I took Xanax and Prazin. I am still taking those. However, I haven't touched the 20 mg dose of Zeldox for about a month now. Everything is fine; the voices haven't returned. Additionally, I suffered from severe obsessive-compulsive disorder—obsessions with symmetry and repetitive actions performed up to 50 times under the influence of the voices. That has also passed; the compulsions are gone.
This is a success for me, but I am now experiencing depressive episodes that I didn't have before, including suicidal ideation. It is mostly tied to being unemployed. I did not tell my psychiatrist that I stopped the antipsychotic. She considers the current dose to be negligible regardless.
Yes, I have tried antidepressants like Fevarin and Zoloft, but I had to stop them because they caused insomnia.
Also, I was recently prescribed Diazepam because my sleep quality has declined since I stopped the antipsychotic.
Was it wise of me to stop the antipsychotic on my own, given that the dosage has been minimal for the last six months?
I decided to try life without it because the symptoms are gone. Furthermore, Zeldox completely dulled my appreciation for the beauty of the world; everything became banal and boring, and it absolutely crushed my libido. I don't know when my libido will return. Is the loss of libido irreversible, or is there hope for recovery?