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Induced spiritual experiences in Spirituality ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:It looks like our paths are heading in completely different directions, so there isn't much point in me trying to respond to that. Good luck with whatever it is you're (not) doing, and thanks for setting an example that encourages us all to stay away from psychoactive substances.☕

There aren't even "paths" to compare—I'm not on some journey, I'm not looking for companions, and I'm certainly not driven by any specific set of beliefs. I can go wherever I want, so comparing directions is pointless. Likewise, trying to interpret experiences is a fool's errand; they simply are what they are. You shouldn't add anything to them or take anything away. The moment you try to "explain" or "interpret" an experience, you've corrupted and cheapened it. By its very nature, any authentic spiritual experience is incomprehensible to the rational mind—it's unspeakable. If it could be explained, it wouldn't be authentic. Sure, you can share it with someone receptive to gain clarity, but true interpretation? Impossible... and harmful.
Induced spiritual experiences in Spirituality ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:The point is—if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. In other words, if you’re looking for a reason to pathologize every human experience that falls outside the standard work-home-pub routine, you’ll easily find some DSM code to label it with, even if you haven't actually proven anything.

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Paul Rogers94 says:
I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve with that question, but in this instance, it's either a complete failure to understand or you're just messing around. Plenty of others have taken much more than I have and see nothing at all, so you can't really do anything about that... spiritual experiences can't be forced; you can't earn them, you can't act upon them, and you shouldn't try to, because it's a matter of grace (which, admittedly, requires maturity). It simply happens. That is the answer, and it's Enchantress. You can't hold onto anything, including spiritual experiences, and there's nothing you can do to recreate an identical experience. All those techniques are essentially useless.
When I ask a question, I usually expect an answer. 🙂

I wasn't interested in "holding onto" an experience, nor was I asking about consciously inducing one, and I certainly wasn't looking for lectures on grace or maturity. What I was actually asking is what you *do* with the realization of how the world works—specifically, how that insight has changed your life, or the lives of your family, your community, and so on.

Every experience changes you—deep ones change you fundamentally, teaching you how to handle anything life throws at you. Especially when you face an experience that reveals you aren't some grand architect of destiny, but rather someone living under a completely flawed paradigm. You don't just swap it out for a different one—every paradigm is wrong—and you can't even live "intentionally," because life simply unfolds on its own terms. You lose the urge to interfere with events, because fighting them is just resisting the inevitable. If I had to boil it down to a formula: stop resisting and stop forcing. Stop chasing fantasies that promise fulfillment or joy, and stop trying to set conditions for them... because there’s nothing there.
Induced spiritual experiences in Spirituality ·
bluemason3 said:I actually think it's the opposite, which is why setting and mindset are so critical. If your mind is preoccupied with something, you'll hallucinate it. Hallucinogens definitely ramp up suggestibility.

In my experience, the mental obsession, expectations, and how a session is steered essentially define the trip. It's not some grand "grace"; it's more like a direct provocation.

For example, back when I was deep into studying Buddhist practices and then took LSD, I would consciously try to perform those specific meditations while tripping (unless the dose was so high that I couldn't even function). Every single experience felt incredibly meditative and tied directly to those theories and practices. Outside of that context, the trips just revolve around whatever happens to be on my mind at the time.

The same logic applies to trance states induced by non-chemical methods.

It's just a glorified psychological game.

This is interesting. I gave up on trying to steer psychedelics very early on because, frankly, it feels like a violation—a total lack of respect for the substance. Respecting the substance is far more vital than any attempt at direction or setting (expectations are everything here). Besides, whenever I stop trying to control the trip, I receive much more than I could ever imagine or intentionally direct. With mushrooms, this is especially true; you often have a guide showing you entire universes, initiating you into occult knowledge and bestowing "graces and blessings"... we all know Ayahuasca (DMT) is seen as female, Peyote as male, and mushrooms lean masculine despite having hermaphroditic elements. Even before the mushrooms pulled me into their worlds, they expected me to recognize them as a distinct entity rather than just an extension of my own higher nature. They kept me in a sort of limbo until I intimately acknowledged them as an independent being; only then would they lead me into deeper knowledge, and for every subsequent step, they required a kind of intimate consent. Without it, they wouldn't go any further. Still, I think LSD is the type of psychedelic that doesn't mind being steered, whereas mushrooms only comply in certain phases and for specific purposes, and only with their permission and instructions. Otherwise, the mushroom—in its role as a guide—likes to smoke and has a bizarre sense of humor, behaving quite playfully... it has a distinct personality. By steering, you simply get what you asked for (a hyped-up psychological game)... that attempt at control is fundamentally incompatible with the essence of taking psychedelics, which is—to phrase it simply—"stepping out of your comfort zone." And I'm not convinced that obsessively forcing an intention is a good path; once you decide exactly what state you want to achieve, you've already lost. You can't force spiritual experiences; they manifest on their own once you finally stop trying so hard.
Induced spiritual experiences in Spirituality ·
bluemason3 said:There are several key differences here. A friend of mine went through a psychotic episode—what some call a "Kundalini experience"—following an incredibly intense yoga practice. It’s not quite the same as the typical spiritual experiences he had before, nor is it like the ones I've personally had. There is an entire spectrum of psychological and physiological symptoms that set them apart.
Psychotic experiences can sometimes be categorized as spiritual ones—or at least, they’re perceived that way by people prone to that kind of interpretation. That said, labeling them as such doesn't quite capture the full spectrum of what people call "spiritual experiences."

Cocaine and amphetamines aren't psychedelics. 😛

I don't quite follow. If you want my take on this whole intelligence thing, just say the word. 🤔

Cocaine and amphetamines are just party favors for sex and entertainment—they have zero connection to spiritual experiences. All they do is leave you psychologically addicted and mentally stunted in the long run, aside from that initial stage where you feel extremely euphoric, which is where the psychosis comes in. The difference is that during a psychotic episode, you lose control; you become completely consumed by the episode until it becomes your only reality. I know someone who suffers from frequent psychotic breaks, and he only ever reaches out to grab coffee with me when he's in that state. His terminology isn't much different from some "charismatic" leader at a Pentecostal revival meeting. Meanwhile, an advanced yogi or a true mystic doesn't just cling to a single experience... it's hard to find the right words without sounding paradoxical, but either way, you lose your grip.
Induced spiritual experiences in Spirituality ·
bluemason3 said:American journalism 🙄

The headline screams "opiates," yet almost none of the substances mentioned in the actual article qualify as such.
As for that first sentence claiming these things boost intelligence—well, I don't know if we're talking about intelligence or how you define it, but there have been studies showing specific improvements in scientific output linked to certain substances.

And you're still out here dropping links like this. 😁

They aren't narcotics—I call them psychedelics. Narcotics don't lead to any kind of spiritual experience. As for the intelligence bit, it's just a way to give authority to nonsense by wrapping it in pseudo-scientific jargon to make it sound more serious.
Induced spiritual experiences in Spirituality ·
Joseph Bailey41 said:Alright, fair enough. You took some psychedelics and now you think you’ve unlocked the truth. So, what's your next move?

I honestly don't know what you're trying to achieve with this question—it's either a total lack of comprehension or you're just trolling at this point. Plenty of people have taken much higher doses than you ever will and see absolutely nothing. You aren't "doing" anything with it... spiritual experiences can't be forced. You can't earn them, you can't manufacture them, and there isn't anything you need to "do" about it because it's entirely a matter of grace (which requires maturity, by the way). It happens, that's the answer. And Enchantress, you can't hold onto them—not spiritual experiences, not anything. You can't perform some ritual to recreate the exact same feeling; all those techniques are essentially useless.
Induced spiritual experiences in Spirituality ·
bluemason3 said:I wouldn't go that far, though the symptoms and spiritual interpretations—like kundalini and such—tend to be pretty much the same.

Psychotic episodes and spiritual experiences aren't actually different—except for one thing: the former leaves the person miserable and alienated from everyone around them, while the latter brings a sense of fulfillment and joy, even amidst suffering... (not that I feel like getting into the weeds of that right now)
Induced spiritual experiences in Spirituality ·
casualtiger2 said:Absolutely. It’s just like knowing whether I'm awake or not.
Sure, you can dream that you're wide awake—but once you actually *are* awake, you notice the distinction. Bottom line: you have to experience being conscious first. If you're just dreaming, you won't know the difference. So, to answer your question—yeah, people can easily be fooled. They might experience some random brain activity—whether from meditation or some high-tech gadgetry—and immediately jump to the conclusion that they've seen God or hit enlightenment.
And people will swear on anything to make it true.

You can only make that distinction when you're actually "awake"—though, for all we know, you might just be dreaming about being conscious. In deep, dreamless sleep, there's no distinction at all, because the very thing that makes the difference has completely dissolved.
Induced spiritual experiences in Spirituality ·
urbanwalker72 said:casualtiger2, I am curious about your perspective on how virtual reality might evolve over the next twenty or thirty years. How difficult will it be to tell the difference between a digital simulation and the world we inhabit?

For the sake of this discussion, let us assume that such advanced VR—an "artificial reality"—will eventually exist to the point where it becomes indistinguishable from the physical reality we know.

How would you rank and evaluate these three distinct layers of existence? There is the material realm, your spiritual dimension, and now this third, virtual one; which of these holds true reality, and how should we weigh their importance?

Furthermore, is it possible for a virtual environment to trigger spiritual experiences so profound that an individual could not distinguish them from their "authentic" encounters?

What "real reality" are we even talking about? We’re already living in a world built on social conditioning and pure fantasy... you’d need some serious perspective to realize it.
Induced spiritual experiences in Spirituality ·
Michael Gonzalez77 said:Spiritual experiences can actually act as a roadblock to spiritual growth. They don't necessarily mean you're moving forward at all. In fact, they might even be holding you back.

Real progress—both subjective and objective—is measured by qualitative changes within yourself. These shifts are subtle, but you can track them through several lenses. Look for things like an expanded creative capacity, a sense of lasting inner peace, and the disappearance of irrational fears. You should also see a growing love for yourself and the entire universe (God, humanity, and creation), a genuine drive to help others, and a more grounded way of thinking and behaving that shows increased tolerance and a deeper understanding of how things work.

That’s true, but here's the thing: a profound spiritual experience usually paves the way for those qualitative shifts you're talking about. It doesn't work the other way around. You can't force moral behavior or just "try harder" to be a better person and expect to stumble into deep understanding—those fundamental changes are the direct result of a genuine, deep insight.
Induced spiritual experiences in Spirituality ·
I’ve spent quite a bit of time experimenting with substances designed to deepen one's perception of reality—tools meant to facilitate an encounter with the true self or perhaps transcend the confines of limited consciousness. A few observations from my journey:

1. Substance-induced experiences are qualitatively identical to those achieved through non-substance methods.

2. You won't experience anything significant—unless you find yourself caught somewhere between a fairy tale and a nightmare—if you aren't already internally prepared for the encounter.

3. The catalysts I’ve used include LSD (which has allowed me to dwell within my true nature on several occasions) and psilocybin mushrooms—which act as genuine reservoirs of occult wisdom and have imparted profound, holistic teachings to me... various "graces and fruits of the spirit." I am currently attempting to write a book regarding these experiences and DMT. There are other substances that can facilitate this if one is ready—things like ibogaine, peyote, psychoactive toads, and many others I haven't personally tested. I don't view these as "drugs" in the traditional sense; they aren't addictive, nor are they particularly popular with the typical addict crowd, since they tend to produce the exact opposite effect.

4. During certain early stages of spiritual development, it can be beneficial for some (though certainly not everyone) to break through to "THAT PLACE" via a substance—simply to verify its existence, to prove we can reach it, and to get a glimpse of what it actually looks like (essentially, getting a roadmap of where we are actually heading).

5. My initial breakthrough experiences (as well as some later ones) had absolutely nothing to do with any substances whatsoever, which is why I maintain that these experiences are qualitatively indistinguishable from those induced chemically.

6. Not every psychedelic sensation qualifies as a spiritual experience. In truth, that happens very rarely, and even then, only to those who have reached a certain level of maturity (among other specific conditions).

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Best Movies of 2017? in Movies ·
Jack Murphy5 said:It’s a little too early to call it just yet; I still have about 80% of the heavy hitters from 2017 left to get through.
Of everything I've watched lately, my favorites have to be A Ghost Story, Columbus, Logan Lucky, Get Out, and Song to Song.

Honestly, I think we haven't even hit the good stuff yet. I'm dying to see My Friend Dahmer, but since Kuso and May Dardel don't even have an American release yet, they're on hold. Then there's The Florida Project—can't wait—and Mother... I want to catch those at just the right moment. When that happens? Who knows.
Best Movies of 2017? in Movies ·
I honestly thought last year was the absolute bottom of the barrel, but this one takes the cake—it’s even worse. Here are a few notable offenders:

Thelma, 2017
The Glass Castle, 2017
American Made, 2017
Super Dark Times, 2017
1922, 2017
electriccanyon26 said:Subtlety and this movie aren't even in the same zip code. 🤷

Agreed—one of the worst King's adaptations out there. Just a bland, boring mess.
Password issues are the worst in IT Support ·
In the meantime, I found a tutorial on YouTube and stripped the password in just a few clicks—if anyone else is running into this, maybe try a quick Google search...
Password issues are the worst in IT Support ·
Got a new laptop (as of yesterday😁) running original Windows 10. Every single time I try to log in, it demands a password. How do I get rid of this? I probably checked the wrong box during the initial setup...
Silverheads 1998 Vladimir Maslov

The Woodcutter, 1985. American Necrorealism

silentridge3 said:My argument is pretty simple—these two things are directly linked. The more a movie relies on "fantasy" and flashy technical tricks, the shallower and cheaper the actual drama becomes.

It’s a classic move: hiding a total lack of substance behind big visual effects. And honestly? If a movie opens with a sex scene just to grab your attention, you can pretty much skip it unless you're looking for porn.