Remembering Ayrton Senna
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fadedwalker18 said:As of today, we celebrate the birth of the absolute greatest to ever step into a cockpit.
May his legacy live on forever. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
May he rest in peace...🙏
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Remembering Ayrton Senna
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fadedwalker18 said:Ayrton Senna branding spotted on the Ferrari during Practice 3 at Indianapolis Motor Speedway; July 30, 2022, at 1:40 PM.
Mercedes E400 Coupe 0-60 mph
🙏🙏
I believe it already appeared in Monaco earlier this year.
Let it stay small and insignificant until the Ferrari crew actually starts performing...
stormybadger8 said:You're way off on that one...
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/fi...ummary_v01.pdf
Sainz was called in perfectly right after Max Verstappen and Perez, who both pitted on lap 43. He went in just one lap later, which secured his position and gave him fresh rubber...
Honestly, under Ferrari's old tactics, trying to cover Max Verstappen and Perez by pitting Charles Leclerc while leaving Sainz out on mediums would have been pure idiocy. Pitting two laps later wouldn't have made sense anymore...
And let's be real, anyone would be a sitting duck on a restart after the SC with two Red Bull Racing cars breathing down their neck on Softs. He would've lost his spot to both of them, if not to Mercedes too.☕
There's no way he defends that spot against anyone, let alone Perez, much less Max Verstappen—not when there's a solid chance he loses it to George Russell too...
If they'd left him out, they would've screwed him. He would've ended up like Michael Schumacher on old mediums against everyone else on fresh Softs...
What really surprises me about Ferrari's strategy is that specific timing.
They played it perfectly by covering Perez with Sainz (and even giving him a shot at Max Verstappen), then calling Charles Leclerc in. Charles Leclerc had the luxury of staying out a lap or two longer because of the gap he had to Max Verstappen before the SC...
Look, Sainz didn't have that luxury, and this time Ferrari didn't just toss the second driver under the bus like they usually do with "we don't care about you." They actually took a risk with their lead driver just to squeeze the absolute maximum out of both cars...
It was a massive gamble, though. For it to work, the pit stops had to be flawless and lightning-fast, especially Charles Leclerc's... so they definitely rolled the dice, but they clearly trusted their crew to nail it.
I'd say they don't just have the pace; they clearly have the confidence, too...
In the past, it was always just about the win and whoever was in front, while the second driver was just an afterthought...
This time, Ferrari had a clear strategy to get both drivers as high up as possible without hesitation.
Red Bull Racing basically just used Sergio Perez as a sacrificial lamb to see if their strategy would actually hold up.
Is it really that bad? 🙂
stormybadger8 said:You're way off on that one...
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/fi...ummary_v01.pdf
Sainz was called in perfectly right after Max Verstappen and Perez, who both pitted on lap 43. He went in just one lap later, which secured his position and gave him fresh rubber...
Honestly, under Ferrari's old tactics, trying to cover Max Verstappen and Perez by pitting Charles Leclerc while leaving Sainz out on mediums would have been pure idiocy. Pitting two laps later wouldn't have made sense anymore...
And let's be real, anyone would be a sitting duck on a restart after the SC with two Red Bull Racing cars breathing down their neck on Softs. He would've lost his spot to both of them, if not to Mercedes too.☕
There's no way he defends that spot against anyone, let alone Perez, much less Max Verstappen—not when there's a solid chance he loses it to George Russell too...
If they'd left him out, they would've screwed him. He would've ended up like Michael Schumacher on old mediums against everyone else on fresh Softs...
What really surprises me about Ferrari's strategy is that specific timing.
They played it perfectly by covering Perez with Sainz (and even giving him a shot at Max Verstappen), then calling Charles Leclerc in. Charles Leclerc had the luxury of staying out a lap or two longer because of the gap he had to Max Verstappen before the SC...
Look, Sainz didn't have that luxury, and this time Ferrari didn't just toss the second driver under the bus like they usually do with "we don't care about you." They actually took a risk with their lead driver just to squeeze the absolute maximum out of both cars...
It was a massive gamble, though. For it to work, the pit stops had to be flawless and lightning-fast, especially Charles Leclerc's... so they definitely rolled the dice, but they clearly trusted their crew to nail it.
I'd say they don't just have the pace; they clearly have the confidence, too...
In the past, it was always just about the win and whoever was in front, while the second driver was just an afterthought...
This time, Ferrari had a clear strategy to get both drivers as high up as possible without hesitation.
Red Bull Racing basically just used Sergio Perez as a sacrificial lamb to see if their strategy would actually hold up.
Fine, let's say that's how it went, though I doubt they could have caught Carlos Sainz so easily since he only had 11-lap old mediums while they were 20 laps behind him (so lap 43, no SC yet; Max Verstappen might have caught him in the remaining 14 laps, but certainly not Sergio Perez). At that moment, it looked like an unnecessary risk to second or third place.
But if that's the case, and if what you said—"two laps later wouldn't have made any sense"—is true, then Charles Leclerc had no intention of pitting! Because he didn't pit on lap 44 when it actually made sense. By lap 45, he couldn't afford to, or he would've dropped behind Max Verstappen. By lap 46, he finally had the luxury, because before the SC, there was a VSC where Max Verstappen wasn't allowed to extend his lead (and eventually had to anyway, otherwise he'd have Max Verstappen breathing down his neck on fresh tires after the SC)
stormybadger8 said:You're way off on that one...
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/fi...ummary_v01.pdf
Sainz was called in perfectly right after Max Verstappen and Perez, who both pitted on lap 43. He went in just one lap later, which secured his position and gave him fresh rubber...
Honestly, under Ferrari's old tactics, trying to cover Max Verstappen and Perez by pitting Charles Leclerc while leaving Sainz out on mediums would have been pure idiocy. Pitting two laps later wouldn't have made sense anymore...
And let's be real, anyone would be a sitting duck on a restart after the SC with two Red Bull Racing cars breathing down their neck on Softs. He would've lost his spot to both of them, if not to Mercedes too.☕
There's no way he defends that spot against anyone, let alone Perez, much less Max Verstappen—not when there's a solid chance he loses it to George Russell too...
If they'd left him out, they would've screwed him. He would've ended up like Michael Schumacher on old mediums against everyone else on fresh Softs...
What really surprises me about Ferrari's strategy is that specific timing.
They played it perfectly by covering Perez with Sainz (and even giving him a shot at Max Verstappen), then calling Charles Leclerc in. Charles Leclerc had the luxury of staying out a lap or two longer because of the gap he had to Max Verstappen before the SC...
Look, Sainz didn't have that luxury, and this time Ferrari didn't just toss the second driver under the bus like they usually do with "we don't care about you." They actually took a risk with their lead driver just to squeeze the absolute maximum out of both cars...
It was a massive gamble, though. For it to work, the pit stops had to be flawless and lightning-fast, especially Charles Leclerc's... so they definitely rolled the dice, but they clearly trusted their crew to nail it.
I'd say they don't just have the pace; they clearly have the confidence, too...
In the past, it was always just about the win and whoever was in front, while the second driver was just an afterthought...
This time, Ferrari had a clear strategy to get both drivers as high up as possible without hesitation.
Red Bull Racing basically just used Sergio Perez as a sacrificial lamb to see if their strategy would actually hold up.
Yeah, that makes sense now, but back then there hadn't even been a VSC, let alone an SC...☕
stormybadger8 said:You're way off on that one...
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/fi...ummary_v01.pdf
Sainz was called in perfectly right after Max Verstappen and Perez, who both pitted on lap 43. He went in just one lap later, which secured his position and gave him fresh rubber...
Honestly, under Ferrari's old tactics, trying to cover Max Verstappen and Perez by pitting Charles Leclerc while leaving Sainz out on mediums would have been pure idiocy. Pitting two laps later wouldn't have made sense anymore...
And let's be real, anyone would be a sitting duck on a restart after the SC with two Red Bull Racing cars breathing down their neck on Softs. He would've lost his spot to both of them, if not to Mercedes too.☕
There's no way he defends that spot against anyone, let alone Perez, much less Max Verstappen—not when there's a solid chance he loses it to George Russell too...
If they'd left him out, they would've screwed him. He would've ended up like Michael Schumacher on old mediums against everyone else on fresh Softs...
What really surprises me about Ferrari's strategy is that specific timing.
They played it perfectly by covering Perez with Sainz (and even giving him a shot at Max Verstappen), then calling Charles Leclerc in. Charles Leclerc had the luxury of staying out a lap or two longer because of the gap he had to Max Verstappen before the SC...
Look, Sainz didn't have that luxury, and this time Ferrari didn't just toss the second driver under the bus like they usually do with "we don't care about you." They actually took a risk with their lead driver just to squeeze the absolute maximum out of both cars...
It was a massive gamble, though. For it to work, the pit stops had to be flawless and lightning-fast, especially Charles Leclerc's... so they definitely rolled the dice, but they clearly trusted their crew to nail it.
I'd say they don't just have the pace; they clearly have the confidence, too...
In the past, it was always just about the win and whoever was in front, while the second driver was just an afterthought...
This time, Ferrari had a clear strategy to get both drivers as high up as possible without hesitation.
Red Bull Racing basically just used Sergio Perez as a sacrificial lamb to see if their strategy would actually hold up.
Whether Michael Schumacher or the Haas F1 Team messed up is debatable. I have no idea who exactly failed to pit when everyone else did. But let me say this again—Sainz pitted before the Virtual Safety Car came out, and at that moment, it looked completely unnecessary. He was on medium tires with a 20-second gap and only 14 laps left in a reliable car. Why take that risk?...
stormybadger8 said:You're way off on that one...
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/fi...ummary_v01.pdf
Sainz was called in perfectly right after Max Verstappen and Perez, who both pitted on lap 43. He went in just one lap later, which secured his position and gave him fresh rubber...
Honestly, under Ferrari's old tactics, trying to cover Max Verstappen and Perez by pitting Charles Leclerc while leaving Sainz out on mediums would have been pure idiocy. Pitting two laps later wouldn't have made sense anymore...
And let's be real, anyone would be a sitting duck on a restart after the SC with two Red Bull Racing cars breathing down their neck on Softs. He would've lost his spot to both of them, if not to Mercedes too.☕
There's no way he defends that spot against anyone, let alone Perez, much less Max Verstappen—not when there's a solid chance he loses it to George Russell too...
If they'd left him out, they would've screwed him. He would've ended up like Michael Schumacher on old mediums against everyone else on fresh Softs...
What really surprises me about Ferrari's strategy is that specific timing.
They played it perfectly by covering Perez with Sainz (and even giving him a shot at Max Verstappen), then calling Charles Leclerc in. Charles Leclerc had the luxury of staying out a lap or two longer because of the gap he had to Max Verstappen before the SC...
Look, Sainz didn't have that luxury, and this time Ferrari didn't just toss the second driver under the bus like they usually do with "we don't care about you." They actually took a risk with their lead driver just to squeeze the absolute maximum out of both cars...
It was a massive gamble, though. For it to work, the pit stops had to be flawless and lightning-fast, especially Charles Leclerc's... so they definitely rolled the dice, but they clearly trusted their crew to nail it.
I'd say they don't just have the pace; they clearly have the confidence, too...
In the past, it was always just about the win and whoever was in front, while the second driver was just an afterthought...
This time, Ferrari had a clear strategy to get both drivers as high up as possible without hesitation.
Red Bull Racing basically just used Sergio Perez as a sacrificial lamb to see if their strategy would actually hold up.
Well, I certainly hope we see plenty more moments like that this year...
If McLaren can actually get their act together—and judging by what I've seen, they have a massive amount of work to do—Mercedes will definitely step up and have a stellar season...
stormybadger8 said:You're way off on that one...
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/fi...ummary_v01.pdf
Sainz was called in perfectly right after Max Verstappen and Perez, who both pitted on lap 43. He went in just one lap later, which secured his position and gave him fresh rubber...
Honestly, under Ferrari's old tactics, trying to cover Max Verstappen and Perez by pitting Charles Leclerc while leaving Sainz out on mediums would have been pure idiocy. Pitting two laps later wouldn't have made sense anymore...
And let's be real, anyone would be a sitting duck on a restart after the SC with two Red Bull Racing cars breathing down their neck on Softs. He would've lost his spot to both of them, if not to Mercedes too.☕
There's no way he defends that spot against anyone, let alone Perez, much less Max Verstappen—not when there's a solid chance he loses it to George Russell too...
If they'd left him out, they would've screwed him. He would've ended up like Michael Schumacher on old mediums against everyone else on fresh Softs...
What really surprises me about Ferrari's strategy is that specific timing.
They played it perfectly by covering Perez with Sainz (and even giving him a shot at Max Verstappen), then calling Charles Leclerc in. Charles Leclerc had the luxury of staying out a lap or two longer because of the gap he had to Max Verstappen before the SC...
Look, Sainz didn't have that luxury, and this time Ferrari didn't just toss the second driver under the bus like they usually do with "we don't care about you." They actually took a risk with their lead driver just to squeeze the absolute maximum out of both cars...
It was a massive gamble, though. For it to work, the pit stops had to be flawless and lightning-fast, especially Charles Leclerc's... so they definitely rolled the dice, but they clearly trusted their crew to nail it.
I'd say they don't just have the pace; they clearly have the confidence, too...
In the past, it was always just about the win and whoever was in front, while the second driver was just an afterthought...
This time, Ferrari had a clear strategy to get both drivers as high up as possible without hesitation.
Red Bull Racing basically just used Sergio Perez as a sacrificial lamb to see if their strategy would actually hold up.
Nothing new...
Raymond Anderson4 said:I can't quite recall the exact gap between him and Sergio Perez at that moment. It might have been tight enough that they opted for an earlier pit stop just to shut down the threat of a Perez undercut.
If I recall correctly, Sergio Perez pitted around lap 35, while Max Verstappen and Carlos Sainz didn't go in until lap 44.
So, I doubt it was a move to defend against Sergio Perez. Perhaps they were just overly optimistic thinking Carlos Sainz could overtake Max Verstappen? Even if that was the case, it would have been smarter to keep Carlos Sainz on track with decent tires in a clearly superior car and just settle for second place.
Regardless, it seemed logical for Charles Leclerc to either shadow Max Verstappen into the pits immediately or stay out until the end. (I was starting to fear they'd call Charles Leclerc in just two laps after Max Verstappen, which would have been a disaster—thankfully the SC saved them from making a total mess of it.)
Carlos Sainz's pit stop makes zero sense to me (maybe for an FL, but the bigger prize was securing second, which he likely could have defended).
EDIT: Found the chart—at the time of the last change, Carlos Sainz was on mediums that were 11 laps old. He easily could have gone to the end. That was probably Charles Leclerc's plan too, staying out on 13-14 lap old mediums (assuming the strategy was to finish on those since they didn't match Max Verstappen's pace).
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f...hrain/9167920/
Amanda Kelly said:I’m pretty sure Max was running about 2 seconds faster than Charles Leclerc during that out-lap/first lap stretch.
So, if you ask me, the main reason they headed for the Pit Stop was just to swap out for some fresh rubber.
Everything makes sense regarding Max Verstappen, but I don't get Carlos Sainz at all...
Congrats to the Ferrari fans, this is almost a historic achievement—1, 2, FL, but most importantly—they didn't screw up during the Pit Stop.
Only one thing remains unclear to me:
Before the SC, toward the end of the race, Max Verstappen went into the Pit Stop—OK, that makes sense for him. He loses second place, but with fresh tires, he can likely reclaim it. Plus, there’s a chance Charles Leclerc might drop back, potentially giving him another shot at fighting for first. So, it's the risk of losing one spot—not that it matters much to him whether he's 2nd or 3rd—but the potential loss could be greater.
Charles Leclerc—doesn't enter the Pit Stop—OK, no need. He just reported the tires were fine and he could finish on them without issues. Max Verstappen has no chance of catching him (He did pit later, but only because the SC gave him enough time).
What I don't get: After Max Verstappen, Carlos Sainz enters the Pit Stop. For what reason???
-His tire situation is the same as Charles Leclerc's, so he can easily finish the race.
-He secured a very solid 2nd place—it's true Max Verstappen might catch him, but will he overtake? Either way, he has a better chance of holding onto that gifted 2nd place than trying to win it on track.
-By entering the Pit Stop, he risked dropping to 3rd (Sergio Perez).
In my view, it was a completely unnecessary move. He risked 3rd place for no visible reason. Luckily for him, Red Bull Racing dropped out, so it didn't cost him.
Was this a team failure, or have I missed something or reached the wrong conclusion?
Only one thing remains unclear to me:
Before the SC, toward the end of the race, Max Verstappen went into the Pit Stop—OK, that makes sense for him. He loses second place, but with fresh tires, he can likely reclaim it. Plus, there’s a chance Charles Leclerc might drop back, potentially giving him another shot at fighting for first. So, it's the risk of losing one spot—not that it matters much to him whether he's 2nd or 3rd—but the potential loss could be greater.
Charles Leclerc—doesn't enter the Pit Stop—OK, no need. He just reported the tires were fine and he could finish on them without issues. Max Verstappen has no chance of catching him (He did pit later, but only because the SC gave him enough time).
What I don't get: After Max Verstappen, Carlos Sainz enters the Pit Stop. For what reason???
-His tire situation is the same as Charles Leclerc's, so he can easily finish the race.
-He secured a very solid 2nd place—it's true Max Verstappen might catch him, but will he overtake? Either way, he has a better chance of holding onto that gifted 2nd place than trying to win it on track.
-By entering the Pit Stop, he risked dropping to 3rd (Sergio Perez).
In my view, it was a completely unnecessary move. He risked 3rd place for no visible reason. Luckily for him, Red Bull Racing dropped out, so it didn't cost him.
Was this a team failure, or have I missed something or reached the wrong conclusion?
Bravo Ford, bravo Haas, bravo Alfa Romeo
Too bad for Michael, he was so close...
Red Bull racing—??
The Bear—better luck next time, maybe they'll actually learn something
McLaren... I could cry...
Great race, looking forward to more like this one this season
Too bad for Michael, he was so close...
Red Bull racing—??
The Bear—better luck next time, maybe they'll actually learn something
McLaren... I could cry...
Great race, looking forward to more like this one this season
Sam Clark75 said:Yeah, another total scripted masterpiece—honestly thought I was seeing things, but nope! 😂
Fine, they fixed it—now there's nothing left—at least it isn't wrong...😵
Mark Ruiz8 said:McLaren really messed up the car. Such a shame, I guess.
They botched the strategy too...
stormytiger4 said:I don't get these ugly hubcaps...
For years, everyone insisted they needed larger rims just for the looks. Now, they've bumped the diameter up by five inches only to slap these black hubcaps over them, making the whole wheel look like a solid slab of rubber. I get the aerodynamic reasoning, but seriously, they could have at least sketched some rim lines on them. They look like those cheap covers you'd find at Walmart. 🤣
And what about adding some LED lights on top to signal the tire status?
Elizabeth Mendoza said:I’m honestly so happy for Haas. I’ve always had a soft spot for them—they’re just chaotic and messy in the best way possible, but they're super likeable. Especially now that Mazepin is gone. They'll probably get screwed over by reliability issues again, though. 🤣
Now Guenther is just shouting at the Netflix cameras: "Did I tell you!!"
Let him celebrate. I just hope the boys don't blow everything tomorrow...
Elizabeth Mendoza said:Both cars are equally solid right now. At this point, it all comes down to the driver—one tiny mistake in a corner and you're losing time instantly. This is going to be a hell of a race 👋. You've got three cars within a tenth of a second; a single blink and the gap changes.
It could be a massive season. Two teams performing at the same level, and I wouldn't be surprised if Mercedes gets their act together too. We might finally see a season where it actually depends on the drivers rather than just the machinery.
Great, mostly satisfied with how things shook out, except for that McLaren blunder.
Everything happens tomorrow...
Everything happens tomorrow...
Elizabeth Mendoza said:k mag, Alonso and Bottas just jumped right past Russell 🤣 🙏
🎉🙏
Elizabeth Mendoza said:They were running on old tires.
Why?🤔
The Beast is sitting 1.5 seconds behind Ferrari, (for now)... I don't even think the Italians expected this much gap
Sam Clark75 said:If they're sandbagging, man, they are fully committed to faking it until the very last second. If.
I don't think they're faking it... their car bounces way too much to actually threaten Red Bull or Ferrari...
Nothing from McLaren... they’re just as bad as they looked....
Great job Haas, though I really expected Schumacher to break into the Third Quarter instead of Magnussen. Kudos to him and Bottas.
Now let's see if the beast finally works or not...
Great job Haas, though I really expected Schumacher to break into the Third Quarter instead of Magnussen. Kudos to him and Bottas.
Now let's see if the beast finally works or not...
Elizabeth Mendoza said:Yep, it’s not even just scratching. It’s literally ripping chunks of asphalt right off the track. 🤦
They didn't tighten the floor properly yesterday...