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We really ought to start a poll here... what kind of disaster is Daniel Ricciardo facing at the next race?
- fuel consumption issues (sensor failure)
- engine reliability
- gearbox trouble
- electronics (ERS and all that other junk)
- a flat tire
- colliding with thin air and losing a front wing for no reason at all
- something else (anything not listed above)
graniteharbor502 said:Look at qualifying. How much did Vettel trail behind Lewis Hamilton—who is easily one of the fastest drivers on the planet right now, if not *the* fastest—while driving a significantly slower car? We aren't talking about a tiny gap either; he was about a full second off on this track. Isn't that worth some respect? And where did Ricciardo's time land compared to Vettel's?
Then there's the race itself. After losing ground at the start, Vettel manages to slice right through the field in an identical car. Who else is doing that these days?
From there, he slowly starts chipping away at his teammate's lead while simultaneously putting pressure on Rosberg's second-place spot. All of this in a car that is nowhere near as fast as the Mercedes. If that doesn't prove pure skill, I don't know what does. 🤷
You can also see how the rest of the Renault-powered cars finished in the standings.
I didn't notice the Renault engines being slow at any point during the race, especially not with Red Bull. Kimi was having enough trouble getting past Kamui Kobayashi and Romain Grosjean, so much so that you couldn't really complain about Renault's pace. Vettel failing to overtake Rosberg is a completely different story... Ricciardo was ahead of Vettel right up until those "magical" sensor issues started happening, and then, by some strange coincidence, a wheel just happened to fly off when he threatened Vettel's position. Strange coincidences...
The only thing I'm actually wondering about is whether that fuel consumption graphic is lying. Based on those numbers, the Williams looks like it's about to explode... 😁
Samuel Ruiz4 said:I suppose it should look more like this...
1. Lewis Hamilton 5+1
2. Fernando Alonso 2+1
3. Nico Rosberg 5+1
4. Sebastian Vettel 2+1
5. Kimi Raikkonen 3+1
6. Nico Hulkenberg 3+1
7. Jenson Button 1+1
8. Felipe Massa
9. Kevin Magnussen 3+1
10. Valtteri Bottas
32 points
My apologies to you and amberangler64
corrected
amberangler64 22
1 Lewis Hamilton 5 1
2 Nico Rosberg 3 1
3 Kimi Raikkonen 1 1
4 Jenson Button 1
5 Felipe Massa
6 Sebastian Vettel 1
7 Kevin Magnussen 3 1
8 Daniel Ricciardo 1 1
9 Valteri Bottas
10 Nico Hulkenberg 1 1
Samuel Ruiz4 32
1 Lewis Hamilton 5 1
2 Fernando Alonso 2 1
3 Nico Rosberg 5 1
4 Sebastian Vettel 2 1
5 Kimi Raikkonen 3 1
6 Nico Hulkenberg 3 1
7 Jenson Button 1 1
8 Felipe Massa
9 Kevin Magnussen 3 1
10 Valteri Bottas
GrEEn17 31
Lewis Hamilton 5th, 1st...
Nico Rosberg 2nd, Sebastian Vettel 3rd, Kimi Raikkonen 1st...
Sebastian Vettel, finishing 3rd... just one spot away from that top two spot he was hunting for...
Kimi Raikkonen 4th... 2... 1...
Felipe Massa 5th...
Alonso 7th, Magnussen 8th...
Daniel Ricciardo... 2nd, 1st...
Massa 9th, Magnussen 10th... 5... 1...
Valtteri Bottas... 9th.
Nico Hulkenberg... 10th place... just one point... barely anything at all...
Mladen Cro 23
Nico Rosberg 1st...
Hamilton 2nd, Rosberg 3rd...
Sebastian Vettel took 3rd... followed by someone else in 1st... just another day at the office.
Jenson Button 4th... 1st...
Valtteri Bottas... 5th.
6 Fernando Alonso 2 1
Felipe Massa 7th...
Kimi Raikkonen, 2nd, 1st...
Massa 9th, Kevin Magnussen 10th...
10 Daniel Ricciardo 1
Templar Red 28
Lewis Hamilton finished 5th, taking 1 point...
Nico Rosberg 2nd, Sebastian Vettel 3rd, Kimi Raikkonen 1st...
Sebastian Vettel, 3rd... 1...
Jenson Button 1st...
Felipe Massa 5th...
Daniel Ricciardo... 3rd... 1...
Valtteri Bottas, 7th...
Kevin Magnussen finished 10th... just a few points shy of anything meaningful.
Fernando Alonso, 9th...
Nico Hulkenberg... 10th... just sitting there at the bottom of the points. Another weekend where we wonder what could have been if things were actually different. Just one point to show for it. Typical...
_express_ 20
Nico Rosberg 1st...
Lewis Hamilton took second... just one spot behind first.
Felipe Massa 3rd...
Valtteri Bottas...
Kevin Magnussen, 1st, 1...
Alonso 7th, Magnussen 8th...
Jenson Button took 1st...
Kimi Raikkonen 2nd... 1...
Nico Hulkenberg... 9th place... just another day at the office...
Sergio Perez...
miST 25
Lewis Hamilton 5th, 1st...
Jenson Button 2nd, button 1st...
Rosberg 3rd... 5th... 1st...
Valtteri Bottas... 4th.
Felipe Massa 5th...
Alonso 7th, Magnussen 8th... 2... 1...
Kimi Raikkonen 7th... 3... 1...
Sebastian Vettel, finishing 1st...
9 Daniel Ricciardo 1
Kevin Magnussen finished 10th... just another day at the office, I guess.
jelenić 18
Nico Rosberg 1st...
Valtteri Bottas...
Fernando Alonso, taking 3rd... just another day at the office, I guess. Still holding onto that podium spot.
Felipe Massa...
Nico Hulkenberg... 5th... 2nd... 1st...
Sergio Perez...
Vettel 7th, Magnussen 8th...
Jenson Button 2nd... 1st? No, wait. Just looking at the numbers. Still trying to make sense of it all...
Adrian Sutil... 9th.
Kimi Raikkonen, 1st...
I don't know... just looking at how things are drifting lately. It feels like we've seen this cycle before, hasn't it? Everything just sort of slides into place, or doesn't, depending on who you ask. Nothing much to say about it, really... just watching it unfold...
Lewis Hamilton 5th, 1st...
Rosberg 2nd, Vettel 3rd, Raikkonen 1st...
Fernando Alonso finishes 3rd... again. Just another day at the office.
Sebastian Vettel 4th, Vettel 2nd, 1st...
Daniel Ricciardo finished 5th... 5 points... 1 point...
Kimi Raikkonen 5th, Felipe Massa 6th...
Vettel 7th, Magnussen 8th... 3... 1...
Jenson Button, 2nd, 1st...
Valtteri Bottas, 9th...
Felipe Massa 9th, Kevin Magnussen 10th
iceman-st 26
Lewis Hamilton 5th, 1st...
Rosberg 3rd, Vettel 4th...
Kimi Raikkonen... 3rd... 1... 1...
Sebastian Vettel, 2nd, 1st...
Alonso 5th, 3rd, 1st...
Jenson Button finished 6th...
Vettel 7th, Magnussen 8th...
Daniel Ricciardo... 1st... 1... 1...
Felipe Massa 9th, Kevin Magnussen 10th...
Valtteri Bottas 10th...
amberangler64 28
Lewis Hamilton finished 5th, taking 1 point...
Nico Rosberg 2nd, Sebastian Vettel 3rd, Kimi Raikkonen 1st...
Kimi Raikkonen... 3rd place... 1 point... 1...
Fernando Alonso finished 4th... maybe 5th if you look at things a certain way... but officially, he took 4th.
Valtteri Bottas... 5th.
Sebastian Vettel, 6th... just another day at the office.
Felipe Massa 7th...
Daniel Ricciardo... 1st... 1...
Jenson Button... 3rd... 1...
Kevin Magnussen finished 10th... just another day at the office, I guess.
Samuel Ruiz4
Lewis Hamilton 5th, 1st...
Fernando Alonso, 2nd, 1st...
Jenson Button 3rd... just one spot away from the podium.
Kimi Raikkonen 4th... 2... 1...
Nico Rosberg took 2nd... finishing ahead of Sebastian Vettel in 3rd...
Nico Hulkenberg... 3rd... 1...
Sebastian Vettel finished 7th...
Felipe Massa 9th, Kevin Magnussen 10th...
Daniel Ricciardo... 9th... 1st...
Sergio Perez...
Perez WayOut 27
Lewis Hamilton 5th, 1st...
Nico Rosberg 2nd, Sebastian Vettel 3rd, Kimi Raikkonen 1st...
Fernando Alonso finished 3rd... just one spot away from the podium.
Sebastian Vettel 4th...
Jenson Button 5th...
Felipe Massa 6th...
Kimi Raikkonen 7th... 3... 1...
Valtteri Bottas...
Massa 9th, Magnussen 10th...
Daniel Ricciardo... 1st...
quietridge62 16
Nico Rosberg 1st...
Fernando Alonso, 2nd place, 1 point...
Kimi Raikkonen... 3rd place... 1 point... 1...
Lewis Hamilton 1st... 4th... 1st...
Sebastian Vettel... 1st... 1... 1...
Jenson Button finished 6th...
Sergio Perez finished 7th...
Romain Grosjean...
Nico Hulkenberg... 9th... damn.
Valtteri Bottas, 10th...
Clark 18
Nico Rosberg 1st...
Hamilton 2nd, Rosberg 3rd...
Kimi Raikkonen... 3rd place... just one point ahead of the next guy...
Kevin Magnussen 4th, Felipe Massa 5th...
Fernando Alonso finished 7th... ahead of Kevin Magnussen.
Jenson Button finished 6th...
Sebastian Vettel finished 7th...
Daniel Ricciardo... 8th... 1st... 1st...
Felipe Massa 9th, Kevin Magnussen 10th...
Valtteri Bottas, 10th...
gentlecobra23 33
Lewis Hamilton finished 5th, taking 1 point...
Nico Rosberg 2nd, Sebastian Vettel 3rd... one point difference.
Sebastian Vettel, 3rd, 1...
Kimi Raikkonen 4th... 2... 1...
Fernando Alonso took 5th... decent enough, I guess... though looking at the gap to the leaders, it feels like we're just watching the same old story play out again. Just another day at the office...
Felipe Massa 6th...
7 Daniel Ricciardo 2 1
Valtteri Bottas... 8th.
Nico Hulkenberg... 9th... maybe next time...
Jenson Button finished 5th... just one spot away from that podium.
William Bennett53 28
Lewis Hamilton 5th, 1st...
Nico Rosberg 2nd, Sebastian Vettel 3rd, Kimi Raikkonen 1st...
Kimi Raikkonen... 3rd... 1st... 1st...
Fernando Alonso 4th, Sebastian Vettel 5th...
Valtteri Bottas... 5th.
Sebastian Vettel finished 6th... just one spot ahead of the next guy...
Felipe Massa 7th...
Daniel Ricciardo... 1st... 1...
Jenson Button, 3rd, 1...
Kevin Magnussen finished 10th... barely made the point. Just another day at the office...
just another cheetah...
Lewis Hamilton 5th, 1st...
Alonso 2nd, Fernando Alonso 1st...
Rosberg 3rd... 5th... 1st...
Kimi Raikkonen 4th... 2... 1...
Felipe Massa 5th...
Jenson Button, 6th...
Valtteri Bottas, 7th...
Massa 9th, Magnussen 10th... 5... 1...
Sebastian Vettel finished 9th... barely made the point.
Nico Hulkenberg... 1st... 1...
FilipR5
Lewis Hamilton 5th, 1st...
Nico Rosberg 2nd, Sebastian Vettel 3rd... just one spot ahead of the pack...
Felipe Massa 3rd...
Valtteri Bottas...
Fernando Alonso... 3rd, 1st...
Sebastian Vettel, 6th...
Daniel Ricciardo... 2... 1...
Kimi Raikkonen... 2nd place... 1 point...
Massa 9th, Kevin Magnussen 10th...
Jenson Button took 5th, finishing just behind the leaders...
Nesta Marley... 31...
Lewis Hamilton took 5th, finishing ahead of 1st...
Nico Rosberg finished 2nd, Sebastian Vettel took 3rd... and then there was the 1st place spot...
Kimi Raikkonen... 3rd... 1... 1...
Sebastian Vettel... 2nd place... just one spot away from the top...
Fernando Alonso takes 5th... just another day at the office, I guess.
6 Daniel Ricciardo 3 1
Vettel 7th, Kevin Magnussen 8th...
Valtteri Bottas...
Jenson Button finished 3rd, taking 9 points...
Felipe Massa 9th, Kevin Magnussen 10th...
fortinbras 29
Lewis Hamilton 5th, 1st...
Nico Rosberg 2nd, Sebastian Vettel 3rd, Kimi Raikkonen 1st...
Kimi Raikkonen... 3rd place. Just one point ahead of the next guy. Only one point...
Sebastian Vettel finished 4th... just a bit behind the leaders...
Fernando Alonso finished 7th, Kevin Magnussen 8th...
Daniel Ricciardo... 3rd... 1...
Valtteri Bottas, 7th...
Felipe Massa 8th...
Jenson Button 3rd, 1st...
Nico Hulkenberg... 10th place... just one point on the board... typical.
akoj 24
1 Lewis Hamilton 5 1
2 Nico Rosberg 3 1
3 Kimi Raikkonen 1 1
4 Jenson Button 1
5 Sebastian Vettel 1 1
6 Fernando Alonso 2 1
7 Daniel Ricciardo 2 1
8 Valtteri Bottas
9 Felipe Massa
10 Kevin Magnussen 2 1
darkmarlin16 27
1 Lewis Hamilton 5 1
2 Nico Rosberg 3 1
3 Sebastian Vettel 3 1
4 Kimi Raikkonen 2 1
5 Felipe Massa
6 Fernando Alonso 2 1
7 Valtteri Bottas
8 Jenson Button 2 1
9 Daniel Ricciardo 1
10 Kevin Magnussen 2 1
stormybadger8 36
1 Lewis Hamilton 5 1
2 Nico Rosberg 3 1
3 Sebastian Vettel 3 1
4 Kimi Raikkonen 2 1
5 Daniel Ricciardo 5 1
6 Fernando Alonso 2 1
7 Valtteri Bottas
8 Kevin Magnussen 5 1
9 Jenson Button 3 1
10 Felipe Massa
Patrick Bailey4 28
1 Lewis Hamilton 5 1
2 Nico Rosberg 3 1
3 Sebastian Vettel 3 1
4 Kimi Raikkonen 2 1
5 Felipe Massa
6 Fernando Alonso 2 1
7 Kevin Magnussen 3 1
8 Jenson Button 2 1
9 Valtteri Bottas
10 Daniel Ricciardo 1
Ogius 27
1 Lewis Hamilton 5 1
2 Nico Rosberg 3 1
3 Fernando Alonso 3 1
4 Jenson Button 1
5 Felipe Massa
6 Kimi Raikkonen 5 1
7 Valtteri Bottas
8 Sebastian Vettel 1
9 Kevin Magnussen 3 1
10 Daniel Ricciardo 1
The tables and final results will be posted later. Protests can be filed until then...
I should be back home in about an hour or so... if the site is actually running properly by then, I'll have some results for you guys around 4:00 PM.
stormybadger8 said:Vettel never has issues, while Ricciardo always does... damn, did you even watch Australia or what?
🤣🤣🤣
Are you even reading what I wrote?
Ricciardo didn't have an issue, but Red Bull made sure it became one... And then suddenly it's just Ricciardo struggling, while Vettel's once-in-a-century problem is magically fixed for this race, leaving Ricciardo to deal with a situation that isn't even a real technical failure...
It feels like they're just holding Ricciardo back to sell this narrative that Vettel is the superior driver. Just imagine if the current champion had driven a water-logged Camaro for the first race and walked away with 18 points less... things would look very different. But instead, everyone blames the FIA and the sensors, when in reality, they're just stifling poor Ricciardo after he put in a hell of a drive.
Someone should start a betting pool on how many breakdowns Vettel's car has compared to Ricciardo's. Right now it's 1:1, but after Malaysia, we're looking at 2:1...
stormybadger8 said:I don't see how that even links back to Sebastian Vettel... 😁
Sebastian Vettel’s sensor wasn't acting up in Australia, and it wasn't an issue in Malaysia either... the only one dealing with actual problems is Daniel Ricciardo's car...
which is kind of interesting in its own way...
how Sebastian Vettel never seems to have issues, while with Daniel Ricciardo, even when things seem fine, a problem inevitably shows up later on...
1. Lewis Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Sebastian Vettel
4. Kimi Räikkönen
5. Fernando Alonso
6. Felipe Massa
7. Daniel Ricciardo
8. Valtteri Bottas
9. Nico Hulkenberg
10. Jenson Button
Richard Walker38 said:I’m just hoping Matt Massa can actually stay on the track until the finish line this time. I want to see how he handles it, but man, Valtteri Bottas was flying... such a shame his race got ruined like that..
Of course, fingers crossed, because we all know Fuel is going to keep running into issues... 😁
If we get chaotic qualifying sessions driven by rain followed by a wet race, I honestly don't know what to expect anymore. I have no idea who to bank on for the Third Round, and even a top 10 finish feels like a toss-up. There are so many drivers with decent enough pace aiming for solid starting spots and strong finishes...
Personally, I'd love to see dry qualifying and then a wet race. A wet race where people are actually driving, rather than just sitting there waiting...
Don't act surprised if Red Bull just tears the competition apart, regardless of the weather...
Chris Robinson25 said:What happened? Is everyone suddenly rooting for Mercedes-Benz? 😬
Not quite. It’s more like everyone is just against Red Bull.
I'm pulling for Ferrari. I don't even mind Williams, but let's be real... people gravitate toward whoever is winning. 😁
Though around here, it feels like people mostly root for the losers...
Every single Vetteloljubac fan—except for stormybadger8—just seemed to vanish into thin air at the start of this season...
graniteharbor502 said:It’s all the same, Penny. If I make it back in time, I might throw some provisional results out there too.
If you've got the energy and the time, go for it.
I'll be tallying everything up once I finally get home...
Just wanted to give you all a heads-up in advance—you won't be seeing any results this Saturday until around 4 PM. Unfortunately, I won't be able to catch the qualifiers myself either... got some unavoidable stuff on my plate.
quietridge62 said:I'm new here, so you've officially piqued my interest. If I'm reading this right, the first round is over, groups have been set, and we have 9 rounds left to go?
If only I'd bothered watching a single practice session instead of just betting on big names...
There are 6 more group stage rounds, then it moves into head-to-head duels (3 rounds) until we have a winner
So, during the group stage, it's the same as before—you submit your prediction. If you don't submit a new one, your old one stays active
Basically, your current goal is to finish in 1st or 2nd place in your group to advance to the duels
Once you make it to the duels, we'll walk you through how those work. For now, just worry about clearing the group phase...
And look, nobody saw Button, Kimi Räikkönen, or Sebastian Vettel getting knocked out, but hey, it happened...
I didn't see both Toro Rosso drivers or Kevin Magnussen making it through either, yet here we are... That's just how the game goes. Last year, the US race was pure chaos; I think the point spread was anywhere from 5 to 25, give or take. It gets interesting when things get messy. I actually lost my top spot in the group because I kept messing with my predictions too late... Just part of the game, I guess...
Just settle in and see how it plays out. I played for the first time last year, finished 2nd in my group, and then got bumped out during the duels... pretty sure I just forgot to submit my picks...
William Bennett53 said:I feel the same way... 🙏
look, our group has plenty of seasoned veterans, but yours? Yours is basically a goldmine of untapped potential. 😍
(it's a shame Pila isn't playing, he would have fit right in)
Not a single rookie in our group, yet if I recall correctly, Groups A and B are packed with at least three. In our bracket, we should at least be seeing some decent scraps between the old guard.
I've been wondering why Pilatus and 4season didn't sign up this year after competing last season... it wouldn't hurt if they filled out the other groups, maybe with my buddy Mirko_M or someone like DMW.
btw, just move these results to the first page so everything stays in one spot...
darkmarlin16 said:Someone please run the numbers on how much everyone owes and post the spreadsheets...
I already told you... objections are open until midnight, then we'll have the final tallies and groups ready tomorrow...
William Bennett53 said:if my math is roughly right and this lineup holds up, we’re looking at a Group C roster:
Clark
gentlecobra23
me
cheetah
Philip and
Marley
🙏
that's how it looks
probably the toughest group out there... doesn't seem to be any rookies among us, whereas if I remember last year's tournament correctly, Groups A and B should have had at least three...
GrEEn17 31
rosi 27
Clark 25
graniteharbor502 23
coastaldrifter6 23
gentlecobra23 23
iceman-st 22
MladenCro 22
Templarski red 21
Matya157 21
William Bennett53 21
darkmarlin16 21
stormybadger8 21
another cheetah 20
nicro 20
_express_ 20
miST 20
WayOut 20
FilipR5 20
Sigurno 20
Los Angeles 18
R Nesta Marley 17
Put99 16
jelenić 13
This should be the corrected ranking based on total points and the order the picks were submitted... assuming I didn't mess up the math somewhere...
People can try to argue with us because we didn't get our picks in first or because we went back to fix them, but whatever...
amberangler64 said:Whatever, I wasn't exactly a total disaster...😁 most people completely missed the mark with Sebastian Vettel and Jenson Button😁
And what, am I not allowed to have more than one prediction, or did I just misread the rules? :O
You can post as many predictions as you want, really... they only look at the last one
graniteharbor502 said:Also, that ranking for everyone sitting at 21 points looks a bit off to me... since Tibi was the last one before the predictions, he should probably be trailing the rest of them.
That part's been fixed in the main table that'll go live alongside the groups. This version is just for double-checking the points...
