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Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy ·
George Sullivan7 said:Hey everyone, quick question for you 🙂

So, like most people here, I deal with ups and downs, and right now, I'm back in a phase where I seriously need my meds. When it comes to antidepressants, Zoloft is the one that actually works for me—it’s basically somewhere between an antipsychotic and an antidepressant. In low doses, it hits the depression and anxiety, but ramp up the dose and it acts more like an antipsychotic. My massive headache right now is that along with this depressive slump, I’m dealing with some brutal, chronic insomnia. My doctor tried giving me Valium and Halcion, but honestly? Zero effect. It works for a tiny bit and then nothing. We end up back at square one. Even bumping up the Lexapro didn't help much either. For instance, the Xanax I take regularly doesn't even touch my sleep issues, whereas Lexapro used to help a little because it relaxes my muscles, but even that stopped working. And I refuse to just keep cranking up the doses. I've tried Valium and Ambien too, and still nothing. I'm wide awake, staring at the ceiling.

I saw someone mention on this thread that Qypine helps some people with stubborn, long-term insomnia, so I wanted to ask: has anyone ever combined Zoloft with Qypine? Logic tells me you probably shouldn't mix two antipsychotics, even if Zoloft isn't a "classic" one depending on how much you take. Usually, people mix antipsychotics and antidepressants, but I really don't want to give up my Zoloft because it's genuinely great for me, yet I'm dying to actually get some sleep. My doctor is a total hard-ass about antipsychotics; she thinks they're a huge "no-no" unless it's an absolute emergency with severe depression. It took months of arguing just to get her to let me try Zoloft after Effexor, Faverin, and Lexapro all failed me—and those are supposed to help with sleep, right?

If I already asked this somewhere else in the thread, my bad. I seriously don't have the time to read through every single page. So, any advice, suggestions, or personal experiences? 🙂

You could always try adding Remeron (Claritin) into the mix to help with the sleep situation. 😉

It’s an antidepressant, sure, but at those low doses? It barely touches the neurotransmitters. Honestly, it’s basically just hitting the histamine receptors, which is why it knocks you out like a light.

My therapist added something to my routine to help with sleep alongside the Faverin I take for anxiety, and honestly? It’s been a game changer. I’m finally getting a solid 8 or 9 hours. Even if I happen to wake up in the middle of the night, I can actually drift right back to sleep without the usual mental gymnastics.

I’m just taking a tiny fraction of it—like, one-sixth of a 15 mg pill.

If you're looking for more info or want to hear how others have handled this, just Google "low dose Remeron or Mirtazapine for insomnia." Honestly, it was a total game-changer for my sleep issues. It doesn't cost you anything to give it a shot, especially if you're nervous about mixing two different antidepressants or if your doctor isn't exactly eager to prescribe them. 😉
Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy ·
Kimberly Morris said:But it’s not an SSRI, right?

Nope. It doesn't actually fit into any of those standard categories. Mirzaten is what you'd call an atypical antidepressant.😉
Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy ·
Kimberly Morris said:I went through something almost identical to you. I was on Fluval 20 mg every single day for over a year. Honestly, I didn't even graduate until I finally got off it, and then just two months later, I landed a job. At first, everything was golden, but once my manager gave me a raise because she loved my work right out of the gate, some jealous coworkers started playing dirty. I spiraled again and ended up back on Fluval. If I hadn't, who knows? I probably would've lashed out at someone or done something stupid to myself 🙂

I know Fluval is one thing and your Mirzaten is another, but if you're only taking 1/6 of a pill, that seems like such a tiny dose... honestly, is it even worth the struggle?

I really think you’ll crush it at this new job, make some actual friends, and eventually reach a point where you don't even need that 1/6 anymore.

Sending kisses, hang in there 🎉

Thanks for the support, Kimberly Morris 🙂
Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy ·
Jason Vaughn482 said:Don't sweat it; everything is going to work out fine, and you'll sleep like a baby

Zvonx, good luck—sending some good vibes your way🎉

I knocked back my little dose of Mirzaten and slept for 15 hours straight. Finally feeling like a functional human being again🙂
Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy ·
shadowfox75 said:I agree. I experienced several side effects from using Luxe. They eventually passed, but it seems like either this isn't the right ADHD medication for me, or my dosage is simply too low. I have an appointment with my doctor this Thursday. We will either need to increase the dose or try a different prescription entirely. This current approach just isn't working. 🕺

Sorry to hear that specific med didn't work out for you, but let's be real, we all had to be prepared for that possibility. My doctor told me there's basically a 50-50 shot with any antidepressant whether it hits the mark on the first try or not. Looking back at what you've posted, I think you gave Luxottica enough of a fair shake. If your body isn't vibing with it, it's time to move on. 😉

Thank God there's still a whole pharmacy of options out there. No point in suffering through one that clearly isn't doing the job when you can just switch to another. 👍

Psychotherapy is going to be a huge help too. Good on you for starting that. 🙂
Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy ·
Mark Fox96 said:Thanks for getting back to me.
I’m dealing with anxiety—just that constant, heavy tension—but honestly? I’m starting to think maybe I shouldn't even bother taking the meds. Might be better if I just skip it.
I’m honestly terrified that these side effects are going to sideline me completely. I finally bit the bullet and went back to school after all these years, you know? And now, just when things are getting real—with the semester winding down and finals staring me right in the face in a few weeks—this happens. I’m spiraling a bit. I’m scared I won't be able to pull through this.

It doesn't necessarily mean you're going to feel terrible for a long time, or even at all. You might just deal with a few days of it and then move on. If your doctor already prescribed Fever for your anxiety, give it a shot—Fever is actually a really solid SSRI for anxiety.

I'm guessing they gave you some sort of anti-anxiety med to bridge the gap while the antidepressant kicks in? That usually helps smooth things out.

Personally, even when the side effects were hitting me pretty hard, I still dragged myself to work. I kept my head down and stayed productive; I never once took a "mental health day," despite how much my mom loves to joke about my "nervous breakdown." 😁
Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy ·
Mark Fox96 said:So, I was prescribed some Xanax 0.25, but only as needed, plus half a tablet of Fevarin before bed.
How exactly is this Fevarin supposed to work?
Because honestly, I feel like it’s making everything worse, and I’ve never even taken medication before this. I only managed about four hours of sleep last night. I took it for the first time yesterday, and now my mouth is bone dry all day long. I can't eat a thing—just sipping on tea and calling it a day. The instructions say you shouldn't really be drinking coffee or tea while on Fevarin, either. Anyway, I woke up at 3:30 AM feeling like my heart was going to jump right out of my chest, and I just started sobbing. But it wasn't even normal crying; it was those heavy, painful tears... that feeling where you're literally struggling to pull air into your lungs.

Here, I’ll drop a link to my own post where I laid out all the side effects I dealt with and how things eventually improved. Maybe it'll give you a little boost.🙂

Just take it slow and be patient. 😉
Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy ·
restlesstrucker15 said:Thank you 🙂 I am of the same opinion 🙂
I simply wish to avoid jinxing things by speaking too soon 🙂

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Nah, I'm good. Besides, they already told you that you could just overdose on Xanax and call it a day. 😁
Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy ·
restlesstrucker15 said:Come on, just stay brave. It is perfectly normal that you’re struggling to sleep while navigating this new situation, and there is nothing wrong with using Miller to help you get some rest. Once you eventually settle into this new routine, you will find you can sleep just fine without it. 🙂

I have a hospital appointment scheduled for this Sunday, which includes anesthesia. 😢 The doctor told me I could take whatever I need, morning or afternoon—whether it’s Normabel or Xanax—and then they'll provide Dormicum tonight to help me sleep. Hopefully, I'll actually be able to drift off. 😢
Another morning, and half the dormitory is already awake before my surgery. Honestly, I’m starting to wonder how I’m going to handle all of this hitting me at once.

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So many kind and sweet souls in one place.😍

Fingers crossed that everything goes smoothly at the hospital. I read somewhere that you're worried about whether they'll actually manage to put you under—of course they will. If they can knock out an elephant before surgery, surely they can handle Zvonxa.😉
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redranger2 said:Jason Vaughn482 made a valid point, though I suspect her perspective is being heavily skewed by that meager dose of Miller you’re currently relying on.
Quality sleep is an absolute necessity, a fact I’ve learned through the hard way due to my own struggle with chronic insomnia. For me, nothing truly works unless I combine an antipsychotic with half a tablet of Misar; it is a regimen I decided to implement myself, and frankly, it is the only way I find any semblance of relief. 😁

Please, let us know how you are holding up—whether you’re actually getting any sleep or how everything else is progressing. Just remember that you aren't facing this alone; we are all right here with you. 😉

Awww, well now you've gone and made me emotional. To make matters worse, I'm dealing with PMS too. 😉
Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy ·
Jason Vaughn482 said:Since you were only taking 1/6th of a 15 mg dose of Miller, which is practically nothing in my book, yet it was enough to send you to sleep, I say go ahead and return to it. Personally, I take half of a 15 mg pill, and my own mind tells me that isn't even a real dose... so there is no harm in continuing with it. Honestly, alongside that 7.5 mg, I sometimes find myself needing a glass of wine just to finally drift off.

Thanks for the tip, Jason Vaughn482 🙂
Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy ·
redranger2 said:Look, it’s almost poetic timing: just as you managed to step away from the Mirzaten, you landed this new job and experienced a setback in your stability due to the stress. You know as well as I do that our psychiatrist—since we share the same one—insists that insomnia is the primary warning sign that something is wrong. In your case, it has triggered a relapse.

If I were in your shoes, I would return to the Mirzaten immediately. Maintaining steady sleep is non-negotiable; you can't function effectively at work if you're sleep-deprived, and the downward spiral will only accelerate.
Stopping medication isn't some grand triumph, nor is it a failure. Saying you've "won" because you stopped taking a pill is like saying someone beat tachycardia just because they stopped taking beta-blockers. No matter how much we try to frame these issues as purely "mental," we have to acknowledge they are organic conditions occurring in the brain. And the brain is a physical organ; the nervous system is part of that biology.

So, my advice is to get back on the medication and start supplementing with B vitamins, magnesium, and Omega-3.
There will always be a day when you can successfully taper off the Mirzaten again, but right now, while you are navigating the turbulence of a new career, you need the support of your medication.😉

Thanks, redranger2. I really needed to hear that kind of support right now. 🙂

I know I can't function without sleep. Honestly, it feels like a win to have this career opportunity pop up, even if it happened during such a vulnerable time for me. But life happens; sometimes it deals you a hand before you've even had a chance to ask. 😉

If I end up going back to Quincy, I know mixing it with Xanax is just a losing game...

Thanks again for the kind words. 🙂
Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy ·
Hey experienced folks, I could really use some advice here.

Quick recap: I’ve been on Fevarin for about 7 months now to deal with anxiety, which mostly showed up as insomnia. For the first two months, Fevarin didn't quite get me through the whole night, so my therapist added a tiny dose of Mirzaten (just 1/6 of a 15 mg pill). Once we introduced Mirzaten, I was sleeping like a baby for months. Honestly, I felt amazing—never better.

Just so you know, I’m also doing KBT.

About a month ago, I decided to stop taking the Mirzaten for sleep. I’d managed to drift off before even taking it, and I wasn't waking up in the middle of the night anymore. I was sleeping just as well without it, so I quit spontaneously, which I honestly felt was a huge win for me.

But then, a week ago, I started a new job. It’s been a massive shock to the system. Even though I’ve been working for years, I feel like a total rookie here. Everything is brand new, I'm learning from scratch, and I'm having a hard time adjusting to the change and leaving my old coworkers behind—they had actually become real friends.

Ever since I started this new gig, the middle-of-the-night wakeups are back. After maybe four hours of sleep, I’ll snap awake and just... stay awake. It’s this weird mix of half-panic and reliving those awful days when my insomnia was at its worst and I barely slept at all.

For this past week, I've been just trying to scrape by. When I wake up in the night and realize after an hour of tossing and turning that sleep isn't coming, I've been taking half a Xanax. It calms me down enough to sleep until morning.

I get that these wakeups are just my initial reaction to the stress of switching jobs. I talked it over with my therapist during KBT, and she said it’s completely normal.

The thing is, I know how much my therapist dislikes Xanax. So, I wanted to ask you guys: should I just hang in there while I adjust to the new job and keep using the Xanax to patch things up at night? Or should I go back to Mirzaten? Going back feels like such a setback, especially since I felt like I had successfully moved past it.😢

Thanks for any input.🙂
Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy ·
George Clark19 said:Hey, I’ve got a question for the group here.
How many of you guys actually pair your meds with psychotherapy? If you do, what kind of therapy are we talking about? And if you aren't doing it—why not? Just curious to see how everyone else is playing it.

I’m doing CBT, and honestly, my therapist is a total lifesaver.🙂
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Kimberly Morris;52828749 said:
restlesstrucker15 said:Just providing an update on my situation—things are getting a bit hectic with the surgery coming up in ten days. The anesthesiologist told me today that I can take Xanax the day before. They plan to give me 15 mg of Doriden in the evening, even though I mentioned I’ve been using it for quite a while. My main concern is whether it will actually knock me out 😢 She told me not to mess around with Samuel.
Then, right before the procedure, I'll be back on 7.5 mg of Doriden. I might ask my therapist to give her a call, but I’m honestly not sure how she could help me sleep; I need to be fully lucid by morning for the anesthesia, not wandering around in a fog because of Callista or something similar 😢
It was a damned day when I accidentally took the Doriden instead of the Samuel.
The only thing I'd try is asking for two doses, but she won't budge on that, especially since she already gave me the whole 😁

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Even if it does turn into a C-section, you won't necessarily need full general anesthesia. You could just go with a spinal, which kills the pain but keeps you awake, so don't sweat it.🙂
Psychotropic medication discussion thread in Psychology & Therapy ·
restlesstiger49 said:Since you guys are bringing up Calixta, does she actually "elevate" things?

At a standard dose—say 45 mg—you'd expect things to pick up after those first two or three weeks once your body gets over the initial drowsiness. That’s what happens before you even hit the max ceiling of 45-60 mg, anyway. At least, that's what I've gathered from reading an endless amount of stuff online.

But if you're looking for a serious shot of adrenaline, Calixta isn't exactly going to be your go-to choice.😉
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Kevin Bailey2 said:Give me a break. I’m not letting anyone mess with my head.

I spent three years drowning in this stuff... and don't even get me started on the dosages. We're talking pills that make Xanax look like candy. Even before I was pregnant or dealing with childbirth, I was already stuck on some nasty cocktail of meds.

I finally quit about a month ago, and now? My brain is back in high gear, racing a thousand miles an hour, and I can't shut it off for the life of me.

And yeah... I’ve got these "cognitive issues" since stopping the meds, which is ironic because I’ve never felt more "cognitively aware" in my entire life.
I actually find myself feeling nostalgic for that medicated brain—the one that barely functioned at 1% of what people usually use.

😁😁😁👍

I feel you, sis :klap:

My brain is way too loud, too. I’m on a sedative antidepressant, and there was a stretch where I was taking Ambien to sleep (and everyone knows how much that just knocks you out initially). Back then, my brain was running at maybe 1-2% capacity, and it was this blissful, numb silence. I actually liked being that mindless.🙂
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Jason Vaughn482 said:And I wasn't even worked up, I just watched it and moved on...
but then again, Xanax doesn't affect everyone the same way; I've been taking it for five years and it works perfectly for me. I haven't reached a pill-a-day habit—in fact, I haven't even crossed the 1.5 mg threshold, and I can even go fifteen days on just 0.5 mg... but it still scares me whenever someone mentions having a "fried brain." What is that actually supposed to mean? Am I supposed to get a CT scan or something? Because I haven't felt anything unusual since I started taking it five years ago, and there isn't any antidepressant out there that can calm me down when my hypochondria kicks in and I start panicking over every little symptom... though I do take a small dose of Calixte for sleep and a little something else every other day... but seriously, just explain the "fried brain" thing to me, because I see it written everywhere and I need to know what I'm potentially facing.

I didn't mean to scare you, Jason Vaughn482. I'm sure you're taking Xanax exactly how your doctor prescribed it, and they definitely know your medical history better than I ever could. 🙂

Everything is different for everyone. Personally, I nearly lost it reading through American forums like Benzobuddies.org, where people describe massive cognitive issues after long-term use—memory gaps, trouble concentrating, stuff like that. That’s all I meant by my stupid phrase "fried brain."

Again, your doctor knows best, and I'm really not trying to second-guess their treatment plan. 😉
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fadedbear92 I can't even begin to explain how much this situation sucks. It’s just one of those things where you look around and realize everything is slightly broken, isn't it? Honestly, I'm just sitting here trying to make sense of it all, but my brain feels like it's running on low battery. Sometimes you just have to laugh so you don't end up reaching for the Xanax before noon. Just one of those days.
I honestly don't get how you could expect anything remotely intelligent from this guy. The only thing I can actually agree with him on is...
We’re basically just lab rats at this point. Until medicine figures out a way to actually see what's happening inside our heads, we're stuck guessing. I mean, regarding choosing an antidepressant—if we could just get a real-time look at our neurotransmitter levels, we wouldn't be playing this game of trial and error. We could actually pick the right med on day one instead of wasting months feeling like garbage.
People around here already struggle enough just to get through the door of a psychiatrist's office. I can't even imagine how they took his little rant. According to him, you should probably consult everyone from pop stars to various non-profits before you even think about seeing a doctor. He didn't say much about psychotherapy, though—not that anyone was asking. Look, if he’s really not cut out for the job, thank Bog there are actual professionals out there who are. He even claimed he should just quit psychiatry and specialize in orthopedics because "they're all jealous of him anyway." Typical. 🤮

Dr. Torre always knows exactly how to get under my skin. Honestly, I’d love to see his professional peers slap him with some kind of disciplinary action—maybe even pull his license altogether—just to shut down those ridiculous takes of his.

Look, we can't exactly run a blood test to get an exact count of neurotransmitters or whatever, but calling depression just "melancholy" is a massive slap in the face to everyone struggling here and everywhere else.

If Dr. Torre spent half as much time browsing the web as he does staring at his textbooks, he’d realize that diagnosing depression isn't just some vague guesswork. You can actually see the science behind it on a CT scan—you look for that increased amygdala activity and all that other clinical stuff. It’s right there if you bother to look. 🙄

He basically shut me down. He said something along the lines of how insomnia isn't even a real issue—certainly not a psychiatric one—and that I should just lean harder into prayer and seek more support from my community. Honestly, the guy clearly hasn't spent a single month without sleep. I’ve been at the point where I was literally calling on Bog to just take me, because by that stage, I wasn't even a functioning human being anymore. I was just a wreck.

Then there’s his big claim that anxiolytics are totally harmless—that it's all just some massive Big Pharma conspiracy to push antidepressants on anyone with a pulse. He thinks people should just stick to popping Xanax instead. As if you won't be choking down a handful of Xanax a day within a year, or ending up with a completely fried brain five years down the line. Real genius stuff.

Ugh, I really wish I hadn't watched that. Honestly, I have no idea why I even bothered getting worked up over it. 🤦
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Aaron Garcia5 said:I started taking Eli Lilly yesterday. My doctor actually prescribed me Celexa, but somehow I ended up with this instead—honestly, I didn't quite catch why from my physician...
Naturally, I’m looking for some insight. What should I be watching out for? Is weight gain really an issue, or what kind of side effects am I looking at? Does this actually help with anxiety? If anyone feels like sharing, I'd appreciate it...

A friend's boyfriend was on Lexapro for panic attacks, and it worked wonders for him. It completely wiped out the panic, and he didn't deal with any annoying side effects at all.

He stayed on it for about two years, and now he's been off it for a few years and is still doing great.👍