Matthew Fox4 said:placidjackal36, I really do admire how much you want to educate people. But, man, you tend to butt heads with people's personal beliefs quite often. I don't know what your style used to be, but it seems like you've decided that this Health section is where you're going to shine a light on everything possible. Look, I truly value your expertise and your drive to share it with everyone here. It's great! But sometimes, your tone just feels a bit... off. And I don't think we should all feel uncomfortable when browsing this forum. No matter how misguided someone might seem, nobody likes feeling belittled or looked down upon. Using phrases like "talking nonsense" or "get this trash out of here"... that’s still insulting, even if there aren't any curse words involved. I don't think it helps the flow of conversation at all. Especially in the Health section, where most people are just looking for advice rather than an argument. And let's face it, you get all kinds of advice here. It just seems like you jump in to critique almost anything that doesn't align perfectly with your specific knowledge or worldview. Honestly, whenever I see one of your posts, I can't help but think of Savonarola... And, well, as they say, God works in mysterious ways... and that goes for health, too. Maybe try having a little more faith in the people reading these threads, at least here in the Health section. Do you really think everyone just blindly follows every single thing they read online?
Anyway, back to me—motion sickness used to absolutely wreck me. Even with Dramamine, I couldn't handle a trip. Only difference was, it didn't make me sleepy like it does for most of you; if anything, I was the most energetic person on the road! The only thing it did was make me super hungry, so I always traveled with a massive pile of sandwiches.
But once I switched over to macrobiotics, I didn't need the Dramamine anymore. I managed to beat the nausea using umeboshi plums instead. I'd eat two before leaving and maybe five during the trip. They're pretty tough to eat at first because they're so salty, but after that, I felt wonderful for the whole ride.
Hold on, what does interfering with someone's beliefs and convictions have to do with anything?
Why should I respect that? Even if it isn't causing direct harm, I don't see any reason to stay quiet. I'm standing on my right to free speech here.
But we aren't talking about abstract ideas; we're talking about actual harm. Financial harm and physical harm.
Why do I call those stupid pseudo-medical threads "garbage"? Because the Health subforum shouldn't be hosting that stuff. Honestly, it would be the moral thing to scrub it from the entire site, but hey, they created an "Alternative" subforum specifically for that kind of sandbox play. Fine, let them play there. They haven't even implemented a warning system yet, even though they promised they would when they were planning to turn the old NR wing into an "alternative center."
Having homeopathy in the Health section makes about as much sense as reading tea leaves or praying to some Hawaiian deity.
And I have every right to react. At the very least.
I could sit here and write essays on why it's nonsense, but I don't feel like it. I don't have the time, and frankly, doing so just gives unearned credibility to homeopaths—who are essentially just scammers.
For me, motion sickness used to be a killer; even without Dramamine, I couldn't make a trip. Only difference was, it didn't make me sleepy like it does most of you. On the contrary, I was always the most upbeat person on the road. My only issue was that my appetite would spike, so I’d always carry a mountain of sandwiches.
But once I switched to macrobiotics, there was no longer a need for Dramamine. I successfully managed the nausea with umeboshi plums. I’d eat two before a trip, sometimes five. They're hard to eat at first because they're so salty, but after that, I felt great for the whole journey.
But you're comparing umeboshi plums, which are loaded with sodium chloride, to plain water.
Those plums have a—theoretically speaking—effect.
At least, a theoretical effect. And of course, there's the placebo effect, which shows up everywhere. As a theoretical effect, besides certain ingredients in those plums that might be soothing, you also have the hypertonicity of the salt, which has a strong impact on the wet, acidic environment of the stomach.
A homeopathic remedy vial is just water. H
2O. Or a sugar pill. There is
absolutely nothing in there.
Substances dissolved in water and then removed from it don't leave a trace. Water doesn't have a memory. If it did, chemistry wouldn't even exist as a field because we wouldn't be able to run experiments using water as a solvent and get repeatable results.
Testing blood, soil, or rainwater would be completely pointless. Chemistry wouldn't be a science based on reproducible trials.
So, there's zero theoretical foundation, and there isn't a shred of evidence that any of it works. In two hundred years of this madness, not one piece of proof. Just anecdotes and tall tales. What drives people to believe this stuff? Ignorance.
People simply don't understand what they're looking at. Homeopaths fill their heads with garbage about "natural plant-based remedies" and sell them pure water, sugar, ethanol, wax, or whatever inert carrier they happen to be using. They think there are daisies and apples inside. 🤷
When someone pops onto a forum and claims, "homeopathy helped me beat pneumonia," you might as well swap out "homeopathy" for:
- praying to Zeus
- staring intensely at a AA battery
- tapping your hands on a stone table
- saying "la la la" three times a day
- having a chat with a stapler
- offering a lamb sacrifice to Yahweh
- licking the air
- ...
It all ends up in the same place.
I'm out of things to say. There’s really nothing to discuss regarding the medicinal properties of a teaspoon of pure hydrogen oxide.