I guess I should probably just say hi? Not that anyone’s really asking, but here I am. says:
Look, I get that we're talking about little kids here, but I honestly don't get what people expect when they sign their children up for religion classes. Like, you chose to enroll them in that, so why act all shocked when it turns out the church isn't exactly big on Santa Claus? 🤷
I mean, I’m mostly on board here, but I’ve gotta add a little something to that: why even act surprised when things go sideways in religion class? It’s pretty obvious what kind of subject we're talking about, and honestly, it's on you if you sign your kids up for it in the first place. It’s actually kind of sad that over 90% of parents just cave to all the pressure and guilt trips from the Church, enrolling their kids in stuff like this anyway. But look, once you make that choice—just stay quiet about it. You picked it, so you get what comes with it! 😉
Jesse Cook4 said:Well, they can't act shocked when kids get told God isn't real during some other class, all while those teachers collect their paychecks on a lie.
Haha, spot on! Seriously, if they can just claim that God exists, then why shouldn't science teachers at, say, a local high school just tell everyone that God doesn't exist?! I mean, why not?
Jesse Cook4 said:The whole point of religious education is to completely shut down critical thinking. Honestly, it’s about as compatible with a real education as smoking is with staying healthy.
Exactly, couldn't have said it better myself! 👍
Jesse Cook4 said:I just picked up on a pretty wild detail, though I don't know if it's happening everywhere or just in my neck of the woods. During Advent, the religious ed teacher is insisting that the kids attend f**king early morning mass from 6:00 to 7:00 AM. Every single day, weekends included. 😵
Basically, this means during the week, kids are wandering around town freezing their butts off between 7:00 and 8:00 AM waiting for school to actually open. Since a ton of them commute, they don't even have the option to head home between church and class.
Look, on one hand, this whole situation is absolutely INSANE and just total chaos. But honestly? I wouldn't even put all the blame on the religion teacher. If anything, I’m looking more at the PARENTS here! Everyone knows exactly what goes into an American religious studies curriculum—that's just what the subject is. Plus, by law, kids don't even HAVE to take those classes if they don't want to. So... WHY did you sign them up in the first place?! Maybe try having a little common sense and just unenroll them, or if you're dead set on sending them, then maybe just keep your mouths shut. This is pure hypocrisy, if you ask me. 😉
brightheron64 said:It's such a difficult paradox to escape when you're dealing with this kind of power dynamic and this specific mindset...
You see these high-achieving kids spending their Saturday mornings in advanced math tutoring, or doubling up on foreign languages and computer science, all while religious studies remains a mandatory part of the weekly curriculum.
A truly flawless roadmap for the future. 👏👏:
Exactly—it’s a total joke! I mean, what are we even doing? We have all these religious studies classes taking up space throughout elementary and high school, while at the same time, the schedules for actual core subjects are completely butchered. So many essential classes just don't get the time they deserve. It's honestly pretty sad. 👎
silentraven6 said:Let them prove Santa doesn't exist, then let them prove that God exists.
It's actually pretty simple.
Haha, well said! Let them keep trying to prove themselves, I guess!
shadowcrane91 said:Oh yeah? Then you go ahead and prove God doesn't exist...
The logic here is totally backwards: if someone claims something exists, the burden is on them to prove it—it shouldn't be on everyone else to disprove it! I mean, seriously, if I tell you I’m a believer in the Flying Spaghetti Monster and join those Pastafarian folks who wear colanders as hats, that's on me to prove, right? 🤣 So, are you saying that now *you're* the one who has to prove it doesn't exist? Or do you think it would be more logical if I was the one stuck trying to prove it actually does? I mean, I guess it depends on how you look at it, but maybe we should rethink the whole logic here.
hiddenscout44 said:But if believing in Santa is BELIEF, then isn't Catholicism basically just the study of belief? (The word itself implies it). So, technically, you should be teaching about believing in Santa too. Or is this strictly limited to Catholicism? (And where does it actually say that?)
Unfortunately, that's exactly what it says. If this subject were some kind of "cultural studies" course where you'd learn about different religions, customs, and beliefs, it wouldn't be such a disaster. But this is CONFESSIONAL religious education, where they just dull your mind with the dogmas of whatever faith you pick—in this case, Catholicism. And honestly, this version of religion class covers more than just theory; it includes "practice," which basically means being forced to attend Mass and stuff like that! Either way, it’s a subject that really has NO business being in public schools!😠