The obsession with myth-making in this part of the world really knows no bounds, honestly, the way they drag their own reputation through the mud is just beyond anything I can wrap my head around🤦 First you’ve got some random hustler making moves, then suddenly it's some high-level diplomat trying to play it cool, it’s just pure, unadulterated insecurity at this point🤦
And now we're reading all this stuff about those massive organized crime syndicates and the gangs out of Chicago, while everyone over in Europe treats them like nothing more than common street thugs🤦 They’re calling him the Cocaine King of the Midwest, acting like he was some kind of close associate to Pablo Escobar himself🤦
It’s just such a delusional nation, I mean, it's wild how easily people fall for these manufactured legends and total fabrications🤦
Hit a wall? We travel via jet engines, spacecraft, and maglev trains. But perhaps for Steve and Mary, it is simply more intuitive to operate a hunk of metal rolling along the ground with a common-sense left-right steering mechanism, rather than navigating something through the sky with a million different variables and controls.
Besides, cars are entirely logical from start to finish; they pass the common sense test. They aren't built based on some shaky premise that might or might not be true. Could they be better? Of course they could, and they will be. Work is being done on that front, and nobody is claiming that the cars we drive today are the absolute pinnacle of achievement or that we shouldn't strive for something superior. Or worse, that seeking improvement is forbidden under threat of eternal damnation.
Take it easy. 😂
I don't see what religion has to do with my post, because obviously, I'm using everything that modern Science provides us.
btw, ruggedjackal46 with his umbrella gave a pretty great example there, like, is the umbrella the new big tech innovation or something??
Let's talk a little bit about science and those specific areas where we just seem to be stuck in the past. To me, stuff like the whole concept of wheels, tires being filled with nothing but air, turning a steering wheel left and right, relying on paved roads as a basic necessity, and dealing with massive traffic jams where thousands of people are just sitting there isolated in their own individual cars just to get from point A to point B—it all feels incredibly primitive and outdated.
brightpilot6 said:We have to consider the logic of his argument, don't we? Logic should always be a factor, except perhaps when it comes to matters of the heart—which, given how religion weaves itself into our daily lives, surely includes faith as well. And since logic itself falls under the umbrella of Science, then yes, we must include Science in the equation.
But seriously, why wouldn't you use it in love too? Especially Science—I mean, goodness knows if we actually used logic there, pro athletes wouldn't be out there constantly messing around with supermodels.😂
Walter Grant5 said:Well, that point matters because our worldview is built on the info we have and how we process it. Cut off from information, you get narrow views and zero room to think.
The fact remains: you can't prove God through science. Having access to that reality helps actual believers, not religious fanatics with bad output. Extremism always breeds its own opposite. It’s a cycle. When an organism absorbs the good stuff from food, all that's left is crap to be flushed away.
Honestly, I think it's the exact opposite, and it’s kind of ridiculous to take science—which, let's be real, doesn't even have a clue about our actual origins—and treat it like some definitive authority on the existence of God. It's like going to some tiny, remote town in rural Wyoming where no actual scholars bother to visit, and then claiming the local guy who barely finished middle school is somehow an expert on advanced physics.
It’s always been that way, you know? When your body pulls the good stuff out of what you eat, all that's left over is just waste you gotta flush away.
Well, it takes the good stuff, the useless stuff, and even the toxic stuff too.
ruggedjackal46 said:To me, this doesn't even feel like some grand conspiracy theory; it feels more like 🤦 people who couldn't have cared less about the publication when things were normal, suddenly finding themselves obsessed with the contents because a couple of absolute psychos decided to storm the editorial office.
I'm right there with you on that. That's basically the vibe I was going for with my new profile pic.
You clearly don't remember how this went down. I actually spelled out exactly what I was responding to right here, so you can go ahead and look it up yourself if you're feeling unsure.
Even though the whole thing with Samsung isn't really the point, it's just annoying how people from the CIA show up out of nowhere acting all bitter about the results—throwing around lines like 'well, they got exactly what they wanted'—when they weren't even part of the conversation to begin with, and honestly, it’s been bugging me for a while now how people act like the total lack of scientific proof for God's existence is somehow some massive, heavy-hitting argument in itself.
So, basically, Charlie Hedberg was right on the edge of going under, begging everyone for donations just to stay out of bankruptcy, and now suddenly they’re printing three million copies? And people are just letting them off the hook like nothing happened.
ps. okay, maybe I'm being a bit of a jerk here, my bad. 😢
But if I recall correctly, you were the only one actually bringing up the whole science versus dogma thing in your post. I don't think anyone else was even trying to draw a parallel between scientific theory and religion, and I definitely wasn't. What I actually did was just have a total blast tearing into the idea that religion has any scientific basis, basically channeling my inner Charlie Hedberg to point out how ridiculous it is to claim anything significant when there’s zero scientific evidence for the existence of God. To me, the whole thing is just laughably absurd, especially when you consider the context of someone like Big Fat, to be more specific.