Gary James88 said:That would be too much, honestly. Every single group would start demanding their own little corner, which makes no sense—especially since those views don't hold much weight in psychology as a science anyway.
They don't, they absolutely don't. It’s just that over on the Psychology subforum, things are a total free-for-all. Any half-witted idiot can wander in there and spout whatever nonsense they want without any consequences. They can insult you, stigmatize people, launch attacks, or label anyone they disagree with as some kind of possessed lunatic—yeah, it all happens. If you don't believe me, go ahead and ask the moderators... ☕
Jeremy Alvarez5 said:Clinical depression is for people who are actually locked up in a psych ward. Or people who have a few orderlies holding them down because they're having some kind of episode—psychosis, an affective disorder, whatever you want to call it. It’s not for people who just sit around talking about their feelings...
Man, if this post doesn't at least earn a spot on the hall of fame, then honestly, screw it. Let every single troll out there come out of the woodwork and take a massive dump on us, why don't they?div>
Gary James88 said:Don't get carried away. The level of care and approach he’s describing is something you could officially find in certain hospitals right here in the US if you actually wanted it.
Seriously though, are you even reading the absolute nonsense he's spewing????
So, I’ve been diagnosed with F33.2. Honestly, I don't really talk to people face-to-face anymore; I've just become totally withdrawn, which is why I spend all my time typing away on this forum...
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I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, MODS??? HELLO !!!!
How much longer are you guys going to let this absolute garbage stay on this subforum? It basically sends this indirect message to those of us dealing with depression that we're the ones at fault for being sick, or that we're some kind of possessed freaks who are dangerous to everyone else—like our only real place is in a psych ward...[/b]
Honestly, man, whenever I stumble upon nonsense like this, I can't help but feel bad that every single ranch hand out in the middle of nowhere has high-speed internet and a smartphone these days...
Look, I’m doing just fine, seriously, and I don't need your "well wishes," so how about you try actually counting before you start dumping all your supposed wisdom on us? Or better yet, why don't you just head back to your spirituality retreats and leave us broken folks alone to keep getting high and exorcising our demons in peace...
And look, much to the disappointment of certain inquisitor-style forum "believers," I’m not some backward atheist. I believe in Jesus and his actual original teachings—which, unfortunately, have been totally twisted by the influence of organized religion and people like the OP here, who twist every religious teaching to fit their own agenda and pull arguments that fly in the face of common sense and honestly just insult my intelligence. That’s why I don’t get why this subforum even split off from Spirituality if unscientific nonsense like this and the constant bashing of pharmacology and psychotherapy—stuff that has literally saved lives, including mine (was it rage or the devil that possessed me? I'm not sure, exorcism didn't work so I ended up "relying" on meds because apparently, being highly educated makes me vulnerable to those kinds of influences, according to the author 🙄)—is not only allowed here, but actually approved by the moderators... 🤮
Jeremy Alvarez5 said:Basically, you get people who are actually super smart, but their emotions are so intense they can't even take a second to pause before jumping to conclusions. They rush in, make snap judgments about everyone, and despite being geniuses with tons of experience, they end up getting totally wrecked by people who are just more measured and wise. It’s funny because the better someone's memory is, or the more they think they know about a subject, the harder it actually is for them to adapt to new info or see those tiny little nuances that change everything. They get stuck in their ways, full of biases, shoving everything into neat little mental boxes, and they're way too prone to just reacting emotionally. Because of that, they get tossed aside easily and end up becoming targets for all the anger and drama they helped create in the first place.
If we're talking about treating mental health issues, it really comes down to being able to control your thoughts so effectively that an emotional reaction doesn't even trigger in the first place. Because once that happens—once you're caught in the heat of the moment—you're basically hijacked by your own body and its massive biochemical surge, which hits just as hard as some heavy drugs or high-dose pills.
Honestly, this kind of behavior should be illegal. It’s pure primitivism and backwardness; people are out here acting like being stubborn and unrefined is the same thing as being wise, or pretending religious fanaticism and brainwashing are signs of being thoughtful. But man, I am just baffled coming from a guy who prides himself on being a total North American domesticus. That's literally the only thing I can actually agree with him on; everything else he says is just straight-up garbage... 🙂
Jeremy Alvarez5 said:I mean, I guess you could say clinical depression is really for the people who are actually locked up in a psychiatric ward. Or, you know, those folks being held by several people at once because they're having some kind of episode—whether that's psychosis, an affective disorder, or whatever else they call it. It’s not really about the people just sitting around talking, I suppose.
I feel like faith can be a huge help when you're dealing with reactive depression, though maybe it’s a bit harder to lean on when it comes to the endogenous kind. I mean, don't get me wrong—I truly believe faith can provide support in just about any situation—but sometimes it feels like such slippery ground. It isn't really something you can objectively measure or quantify in a way that lets you use it as a clinical medical treatment, I guess.
It feels pretty slippery, honestly—not just at the clinic, but even when I’m sitting there with my psychiatrist or psychologist. And look, I’ll be the first to admit I’ve got my own stuff going on, between dealing with some financial headaches and just having certain... intense cravings or desires, I guess. But it's frustrating when anyone tries to take the absolute mess that is real life and try to boil it down into a few neat little factors, like they're just objects you can move around on a table. Life isn't that simple, is it?
I mean, you see it all the time—there are plenty of people struggling with their mental health who reach out to a priest first, and honestly, it makes sense. But then the priest just gives them some solid advice and tells them, "Hey, you should probably go talk to a psychiatrist." It's actually a pretty common thing, I guess.
And vice versa. Though, I guess you wouldn't want to do that if you're dealing with direct competition. 😁 I mean, look at it this way—it’s kind of like how a Catholic priest isn't exactly going to send you over to an Orthodox one, right? Or even a psychiatrist who's really big on, I don't know, Gestalt therapy... they probably aren't going to be super eager to refer you to a specialist in some other niche field just because they feel like it. It's all about those specific connections and how things are set up. I guess it just works that way sometimes.
It’s funny, I guess... in America, there’s still this weird, lingering idea that seeing a psychiatrist is somehow shameful. It’s like people think if you get a diagnosis on your medical record, you're suddenly marked or stigmatized for life. Maybe it’s just an old-school mindset, but it feels like such a shame that people still feel they have to hide it.
It feels like nowadays doctors are handing out prescriptions for every little thing, right? It seems like people get medicated for just about any minor issue that pops up. But I guess what I’m really wondering is, how do we actually tackle the deeper stuff—you know, those situations where the neurotransmitters just aren't reaching the right receptors in the first place? That's a whole different level of complexity, I suppose.
I guess I should probably go looking for some help from a philosopher. Or maybe just someone who actually knows what they're talking about when things get deep. 😁 I mean, I'm just kidding, but honestly, you could probably try anything at this point—whether it's seeing some holistic energy healers or heading over to Maya, Isabella, or Lucian’s place to light a fire and dance around the smoke. Maybe if a group of shamans starts jumping around, your brain will just instinctively soak up whatever substances it needs to balance itself out? It would be like the total opposite of aromatherapy, replacing those nice scents with... well, much weirder smells. But seriously, maybe the best move is just to call in sick and sleep for a few days. When things start hitting the fan again, the most important thing is just finding a way to move forward. The world is huge and there's so much out there we haven't even touched yet.
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Good grief, seriously? You actually consider yourself qualified enough to jump into psychology threads and try to "debate" things like depression???
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Man, this is just tragic. It’s wild how much ignorance and pure lack of class can turn someone into... well, this...
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Look, I live with clinical depression, and believe it or not, I'm not locked away in some facility somewhere. I go about my life like a totally normal person—I work a high-pressure job at the university, I hang out with friends, I eat, I sleep, and nobody is physically holding my hand while I'm typing on this forum...
Jeremy Alvarez5 said:Hold on, let's look at who's actually doing the stigmatizing here.
Option 1:
A person's brain is just wired differently; it doesn't function quite right, so they have to take certain pills for the rest of their life just to stay themselves, otherwise they might be a danger to themselves or others. It's all just genetic mutations and stuff like that.
Option 2: The person is struggling because of how they view life, their future, or even just the way they talk to people around them. They need attention, care, and help to see where their own perceptions or actions might be going wrong, helping them resolve some kind of internal conflict—which can range from minor spiritual disturbances to much heavier issues depending on the individual.
I don't really get what you're getting at? 🤷 So, are you saying it feels less stigmatizing to blame a chemical imbalance than to suggest someone might have gone off track themselves? Is it just such a hit to the ego that we can't even consider the possibility that a person might create their own psychological struggles and, theoretically, work through them? It’s honestly easier to just say, "Hey, I don't need to examine myself, my thought patterns, or whether I'm at odds with my own nature"...
At the end of the day—who was even talking about being ashamed? If a person is raised by wolves can they really be anything else? Most people are probably just who they are, and they only change when they adopt new ways of thinking, new attitudes, or new perspectives—things that aren't necessarily meds or substances, but just different ways of finding joy in life or hope for the future (even when religion is involved, haha) ...
To actually achieve that, you have to look around, find better examples, ask questions, talk things out, and believe that things can get better... But how much progress can someone make if they're convinced the only cause and cure is a chemical imbalance in the brain? And how can a doctor truly help if they're also convinced that chemistry is the only answer (if it really is)? What's the difference between that approach and just going to a dealer? In the end, doesn't that kind of mindset just leave a person stuck, unable to change because they're being managed by chemicals on one hand, while being told on the other that there's nothing they can do except increase the dose once things start spiraling?
Where on earth are you getting this idea that every single person living with an F-type diagnosis is some kind of ticking time bomb? You’re acting like anyone with a mental health struggle is just some bloodthirsty maniac waiting to jump out from a dark alley and take someone out. It’s like you’ve watched way too many copies of *The Exorcist* or *The Silence of the Lambs* and decided those "educational" horror flicks are actual documentaries. Honestly, it sounds like you’ve been listening to those old-school preachers who love nothing more than scaring kids in Sunday school with ghost stories to keep them in line. Seriously, chill out.
Honestly, that’s way more dangerous to society than me sitting here dealing with my depression—and hey, at least I haven't actually killed anyone yet... 🤮
Why don't you just head down to D.C. and start lecturing everyone there? Honestly, you clearly have that special talent where you just open your mouth—or in this case, start typing away—and keep going and going without actually saying anything of substance. Everything you drop is just surface-level nonsense; your arguments are vague, completely misaligned, and honestly, just pure prejudice from start to finish. You think you're some big shot, but compared to someone like Rojs, you're acting like a total amateur. 😂 🤣 👎
Jeremy Alvarez5, I’m not even gonna waste my breath arguing with someone like you because we all know how these pseudo-religious debates always go down—you just slap an "atheist" or "godless" label on anyone who doesn't see things through your specific lens. And honestly, where do you get off passing instant judgment on those of us who disagree with you, calling us uneducated skeptics? Like, where’s that Christian compassion you’re supposed to be all about, huh? 🙄 The second you drop a question like "is there actually such a thing as a person suffering from depression" and start throwing around terms like "re-education," it becomes blindingly obvious that your "understanding" of psychiatry—as a highly sensitive medical field—and the human brain—which is basically the most complex and least understood organ we have—is nothing more than shallow, primitive nonsense fueled by pure prejudice... ☕
Samuel Hill5 said:Man, I honestly love it when atheists lose their minds over Jesus or anything sacred and start dropping those mindless comments... Like, seriously, the link between spirituality and mental health is scientifically proven—it's even taught as a course in medical schools in more developed countries. It doesn't matter if it was Jesus, Buddha, Mahatma Gandhi, or maybe even Bono—the truth is people just lack spirituality, awareness, and most importantly, love. Today it's all about ego and just "me, me, me"... which leads to nothing but sickness. So now everyone's just racing to the psychiatrist for a handful of pills.
Yeah, sure, because we're all just part of some satanic cult run by bloodsucking psychiatrists and a bunch of half-zombies living on antidepressants, right? We're totally gonna destroy the world, haha!
Jason Booth25 said:Look, Sweetie, you’d be much better off focusing on growing up and helping yourself instead of trying to lecture everyone else. From what I can see, Robert Collins2 managed to pull themselves out of depression and is doing perfectly fine in their daily life, whereas you're constantly looking for someone else to fix your problems—firstly demanding medication, and now pivoting to all these various alternative therapies...
Thanks, sweetie. Yeah, I made it out. Now I'm just staying on a maintenance plan for at least six months, but I'm not complaining. I'm not really the type to sit around whining and waiting for a pill to save my life—there's zero point in that. What, should I maybe go sprinkle some holy water on myself or something? 🤣 ☕
Man, first off, this isn't even a psychology discussion, which I'm pretty sure should be obvious to you by now...
Secondly, all those diagnoses you just rattled off—depression, anxiety, schizophrenia—those aren't some empty voids or some "lifestyle choice" someone made. They are actual CLINICAL ILLNESSES that get treated like anything else. Based on your little theory, it sounds like anyone dealing with this stuff is basically possessed by some demon or devil that needs to be "exorcised" through prayer, fasting, or maybe a week out in the desert or something? WTF?
Why on earth should someone with a psychiatric diagnosis feel ashamed? Why do you self-righteous Christian types feel this desperate need to nail them to a cross of shame? It’s ridiculous. Should a heart patient feel embarrassed about their organ failing, or a diabetic feel guilty because they have to inject insulin every single day???
Honestly, this damn Christian narrow-mindedness and the total denial of blatant medical facts is one of the main reasons why mental health struggles are so heavily stigmatized here in our supposedly "God-fearing" country. And let me tell you something—who are you to judge? You act like these big-shot Christians, but then we see the misogynists, the predators, the adulterers, and the sinners who turn their backs on their calling, their faith, and even Jesus himself... those are the people you should actually be ashamed of. Try lecturing them instead of hanging out on this subforum, because you're far from sinless. Where do you get the nerve to throw stones? 👎
You probably ended up with a recurring prescription, so you can actually use that same thing two or three times to grab more of the same meds. Just tuck it away somewhere safe, and next time you're heading over to the CVS, just hand it to the pharmacist there.
I don't know, man, yesterday’s episode of Criminal Minds felt different... it was probably the closest I've seen to actual psychotic PTSD on screen. It’s just heavy watching someone who doesn't even realize they're losing their grip on reality and is totally powerless to stop themselves from spiraling.
dustyangler2 said:I remember Dr. Branson over in Cleveland 🙂
It’s all five of them, but Bridget from Pittsburgh is in private practice now—she used to work the psych ward at Varaždin General Hospital for years... 😍
The thing is, she isn't just some doctor; she's a psychiatrist, a psychotherapist, AND a psychoanalyst, plus she's a regular expert witness for the courts...
We actually caught up recently, and she was telling me about being called to do a forensic evaluation at the crime scene where this girl I went to high school with was killed. Her boyfriend totally lost his mind on drugs and just slaughtered her with a knife, then he actually wrote "I love you" on the wall in her blood... 😲 😢
Leo, trust me, there are actually some decent psychiatrists out there, mine is one of them, but you seriously have to hunt for them like you're looking for a needle in a haystack... I can't even believe this crap—they just kick you off your AT&T meds and leave you stuck on anxiolytics, and to make matters worse, they're from San Ramon! 👎
People like that shouldn't even be allowed to practice; honestly, they're dangerous enough to be considered actual threats...