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Look silverraven7, I’m not saying hate is some great thing. 😁 Or even that it makes sense. But people don't always act logically. No matter how much you talk about those heart-wrenching scenarios, the reality is that people just hurt each other day in and day out.
Maybe there's a lot of confusion around the word "hate." To me, it’s basically the same as wishing ill on someone... you know? When you want bad things to happen to someone, that's hate. And all those kids who bully each other? They honestly just get a kick out of seeing someone else in pain. It's like what Donna Wood52 was saying... and honestly, how many times have you seen kids pick on a kid just because they're considered "ugly"? Because of that, they feel this surge of pure malice toward them and actually enjoy causing pain. It isn't just about being part of a clique, because if it were just about fitting in, they wouldn't feel that internal satisfaction from it.
Rebecca Scott3 said:.....the world doesn't bend to suit our every need.....but....
...the idea that someone specifically wants to cause you harm.....
not many people are truly conscious of the impact of their actions. A shopkeeper isn't ripping you off because they have a personal vendetta against you; it's just because they want to maximize their profit margins... and they aren't really thinking about what it means to take that much from everyone else. And sure, we all judge people, but that doesn't mean everyone falls into two camps of "people we trust" and "people we hate."
...for me, I generally choose to believe people, and I don't see that as being naive... it's actually the only healthy way to live. But once I realize someone has a habit of lying or being deceptive, I stay clear of them. It's like how you wouldn't give a small child a set of power tools or let them run wild with sharp kitchen knives—you just take precautions based on what you know.
Some folks really love twisting words. That part about the shopkeeper wasn't about hatred, it was about having faith in people.
quietpilot87 said:It’s easy enough to stir up hate—just bruise someone's ego and you're set. 😁
The people mentioned in the OP probably aren't the best example of how to judge a whole group based on a few stories. I don't think there's actual hate here—it just looks like a desperate attempt to fit in.
Yeah, you might have a point about Simona Gotovac. Though I'm not 100% sure, since I think a lot of people feel hate simply because someone is clueless or just seems out of touch because they're loaded... maybe some of that comes from envy.
And like when a couple of snobby folks from New York bully someone just for having an accent? If that isn't hate, I don't know what is. To me, it's pure hatred toward anyone who's different. People just love forming cliques, you know? Like, "we're right, you're wrong, and we can't stand you."
Adam Miller46 said:Hatred is a unique force; it creates a bond even where absolutely nothing else connects people...
It has always fascinated me how two opposing sides—or even several—will suddenly find common ground the moment they identify a shared enemy...
Totally agree.
Ronald Garcia5 said:That’s nonsense, and frankly, your attitude just shows how much you distrust people.
I don't hate anyone. I just think they're too dim-witted to be worth hating.
You sound about seven years old.
Do I really need to be naive enough to believe the world is perfect and everyone has my best interests at heart? Not many people actually do. Like, do you actually believe everything a politician says? Or do you trust every salesman who tells you that specific massage chair is a life-changer? You've gotta use your head to figure out who's trying to screw you over. It's basic stuff. Anyone with a bit of sense or life experience knows better than to trust blindly.
silverraven7 said:👍
Hate is one of those bottom-tier human emotions. Out of all the mammals out there, humans are the only ones obsessed with it.
A true believer doesn't carry hate.
An educated person doesn't carry hate either. The more you actually learn, the wider your perspective gets, leading to more tolerance and actual understanding.
But the person who hates the least is the one who's actually putting in the work to know themselves, trying to stay objective, and constantly checking their own bullshit.
How can you say only humans feel hate? Isn't the urge to destroy someone else basically what hate is? Animals don't follow some deep philosophy; they just act on basic instincts. I mean, I honestly don't know what a dog is feeling when a stranger kicks it and then it snaps back to bite them. :S
As for the believers, I already covered my thoughts on that in my first post.
Betty Chase54 said:I have to disagree with that. Personally, I don't feel this urge to take my issues out on others.
Look, I deal with negative energy just like everyone else, but I consider myself smart and decent enough to handle my own business internally.
True, but I’m not talking about people who actually realize their behavior is wrong. You say you're smart and honest, but there are plenty of people out there who just don't care how they affect others. I'm talking about that deep-seated urge.
silentsailor4 said:Children act on instinct—or at least, they are predominantly driven by it. They serve as the clearest window into the primal traits embedded within us through evolution. In this instance, we see the survival of the fittest playing out according to Darwinian theory.
Hatred is a fundamental human impulse that we attempt to suppress through the imposition of civilized values. Religion serves as one of our most effective tools in this struggle, simply by virtue of its endurance over several millennia.
🙂 That's a really interesting take! Makes total sense to me.
Betty Long14 said:Must be nice being all high and mighty with your advice, but you clearly don't see how kids actually flock to a target because:
he's quiet and keeps to himself
doesn't have a smartphone
has no Facebook profile
has some kind of speech impediment
and all that other stuff........................
That's exactly what I was talking about. 👍
I was just mentioning Simone as an example, since I know people love to trash her even though she's probably a sweetheart.
It’s just like what Betty Long14 said. When you beat someone up, mock them, or just take joy in hurting them, that’s hate. It’s fueled by that sense of belonging and friendship that placidwolf27 mentioned, but it's still pure hate toward someone. Kids just do it because they think it's fun.
Kids can be way worse than adults when it comes to this—they just don't have any empathy.
People hurt each other every single day... I honestly don't get what drives people to do it. Is there just a little bit of sadism in all of us?
It’s crazy how people just love to hate someone simply because they aren't easy on the eyes. I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone get insulted just for their looks, and then everyone immediately writes them off and treats them like they're less than human.
And then there's the gossip. People will swallow any rumor whole, even if it makes zero sense. Like, if some random person starts saying "she's a total slut," nobody actually stops to think—they just jump on the bandwagon, decide she's some trashy girl, and start making her the target of every joke and insult.
People also just can't stand anyone with a different opinion. It's like they have to hate you just because you're on the other side, whether it's rooting for the Yankees instead of the Red Sox, or having different takes on science, religion, or even just what kind of music you listen to.
I've seen it happen so many times where someone makes one little mistake, and people are just waiting in the wings to absolutely despise them for it. Then they start making up all these extra reasons to justify it, and that hate just snowballs.
The folks who call themselves super religious don't hate anyone, EXCEPT the devil, Satanists, immoral people, creeps, cheaters, and all that. It feels like Satan was basically invented as a punching bag for Christians since their faith technically doesn't allow them to be hateful toward others.
Just look at Simona Gotovac and all those nasty comments flying around about her. Sure, maybe she isn't the brightest bulb, but does she really deserve all that vitriol? Especially since I've honestly never heard her say a single mean thing about anyone else.
At the end of the day, it’s just constant friction. You've got tension between different countries, then within a country you have cities hating on each other—like New York vs. LA—and then even within a city, neighborhoods are constantly at odds.
It honestly feels like people just need someone to hate, even if that person is actually wonderful and hasn't done a single thing wrong...
Daniel Wilson5 said:I think there’s a distinction here because, biologically speaking, sex is almost a necessity for men—they just need that release. Then again, I’m no expert; I figured someone here might actually know more than I do. So, we're talking about people who are usually incredible lovers and amazing in bed... and let's face it, who doesn't love that? But is it smarter to approach them from that angle and just use them, much like they're using you as some sort of disposable commodity? Or is leaning into that side of sexuality actually damaging for someone whose nature isn't built that way... say, if you're the type of person who is genuinely sensitive and emotional...
Like I was saying, society treats it as totally normal for guys since they need that outlet, but if a woman even admits she thinks about sex, people immediately label her a nympho... 😕
I have a friend just like that. Back in my 20s, I'm pretty sure she had at least 100 partners. Why should we slap a label like "sick" or "nympho" on her, when a guy doing the exact same thing would just be called a "player" or a ladies' man? Nobody would ever even question him. Honestly, maybe she’s just a girl having fun without wanting to get tied down... Maybe it's perfectly fine, and we've just been raised by our culture to think it's wrong.
redharbor9 said:Yeah, nymphomania only applies to women. The male version is called satyriasis...
Nah, I think the male version of nymphomania is just being an "average guy."
Everyone knows what nymphomania is, but hardly anyone's heard of satyriasis. It’s because society thinks it's totally normal for men to always want sex, but they don't feel the same way about women.