Posts by Noah Vaughn3

I could really go for a coffee right about now... 😢

Well, that’s exactly where we run into trouble—everyone seems to misinterpret things rather than taking them at face value. She simply remarked that some people have never even heard of humility; she didn't go as far as saying everyone *must* act that way. I honestly don't see where that's implied, and if you chose to interpret it through your own specific lens, there isn't much I can do about that.

In this world, people generally just interpret things however they want to see them.
Take a classic example from a film like Joan of Arc—she finds a cat and, well, goodness knows how that plays out. It’s as if God Himself orchestrated it that way; that was simply her perception, regardless of how the situation actually unfolded... at this point, the reality of it doesn't even matter.
It's the exact same deal with this.

She mentioned it, sure—but she didn't exactly lay down the law on how one ought to behave, so...

Neither nimblestag31 nor I ever said (personally, I think you just need to be decent—though that seems to be in short supply lately, on both sides, from doctors to patients) that boldsailor52 feels that way. If that’s your take, fine by me. Whether you choose to be humble, respectful, or just plain rude...
it makes no difference to me.
If I actually manage to finish my degree, my goal isn't to win any popularity contests or build deep friendships with you all; it's to help people, period. If some connection happens along the way, well, maybe that's just how it goes.
And please, don't try to pull the "you have no empathy" card on me. I do have it—I just don't intend to sit here and weep with you. That isn't what this job is about. If we all broke down every time we heard news of someone passing away or facing a serious illness, we'd be making mistakes far more often than we do now.
The best thing you can do for us is show some patience and basic courtesy. I truly believe that if everyone practiced a little more decency, even some of the physicians would turn out differently—more professional, more grounded. div>

I’m actually mortified—I am never, ever doing that again, I swear!

😬 Honestly... you can't even crack a joke or be a little sarcastic anymore without people taking it personally. Believe me, I wasn't even being myself 😬
God, what has the world come to?

So, I'm unproven? Great! 😉 It doesn't really bother me—besides, there's plenty of time left for me to "prove" myself

Honestly, if technology keeps advancing toward replacing people with robots, we won't even have a choice—they’ll just move on without a second thought. And when an error inevitably occurs? They'll just toss the whole thing into the trash and keep going. It's frustrating. I feel like once I finish my work, I'll be looking for any possible flaw to point out, yet they'll remain perfectly happy and satisfied regardless of what you do. It’s just wonderful. 😬

It feels like everyone is getting dragged lately—not that anyone is exempt from criticism except us, apparently... but please, tell me when you last saw a news report or some prime-time segment where they were tearing apart translators, lawyers, the military, retail workers, or economists, just to name a few.
Sorry, but honestly, I haven't seen anyone else taking center stage in a while.

Look, work is hard for everyone, period. But fighting for a human life and then making a mistake? Can you even imagine what that person goes through? Personally, I’d rather end it all than ruin someone's life—even if it was unintentional—and once I finally wrap up my degree, I’ll probably spend every single day terrified that my own negligence might mess things up for someone else.
Take that specialist, for instance—the one involved with that Kaiser Permanente situation we discussed... you have to learn somewhere, and it’s truly tragic that such a fatal error occurred. You think he doesn't care? I wouldn't just be worried about losing my license or my right to practice; I'd be stuck living with the knowledge that I ruined a life.

I’m not out here fishing for compliments—I’ve never been afraid to speak my mind, and honestly, I’m perfectly fine with everything I’ve said and believe

At the very least, this way I’ll know who actually values my perspective and who is just using me
Most people either stay quiet or save their opinions for specific groups—sorry, but that’s just not how I operate
Besides, I have plenty of friends I get along with regardless of the drama, and frankly, I don't need anything else

And just to be clear: I respect every profession, and every job has its own set of challenges... but it seems like so many people are just sitting around waiting for a mistake to happen so they can launch an attack on doctors (which is exactly what nimblestag31 was getting at). It really is true—and sorry if it sounds blunt, but it’s incredibly uncomfortable when I’m visiting someone and they immediately start a crusade against physicians, even going so far as to claim they advised that person (who was already being treated poorly) to file a complaint.. it’s just not a great vibe

People and their nonsense—whatever

Are you all blind or what?
First off, go back and read my previous posts—you'll see I'm certainly not out here praising doctors or suggesting anyone needs to bow down to them. But that’s exactly what you lot do; the second things get messy, you spiral into this panic, acting like knowing a doctor is some kind of magic shield. Don't try to sell me on the spike. I know who my friends are, and I also know exactly who used me regarding this matter—I'm well aware of being exploited, yet I still manage to remain rational and polite toward them. I’ve never found it difficult to do something for anyone, whether they're someone I know, someone I love, or someone I can't stand.

As for those parts where I write as if doctors are some divine gift... you know what that is, right? Cynicism.
Honestly, I don't think studying medicine even pays off anymore. I would do it for free—that's how much I love it. I'm willing to sacrifice myself just so people like you can spit on me. Why? Because I actually care about people (though I might have to reconsider that once I get older). But look... here in the States... I'm not far from working for free anyway. Given everything you have to endure for this profession, the pay is pathetic.

Benjamin Murphy2, thanks for understanding.

Look, let's get one thing straight—I write how I want and when I want, and if I feel like swearing, I will. You think doctors are all sunshine and roses? Please. I’ve never been one to play nice just for the sake of it; I prefer being blunt. Everyone knows exactly where I stand right away, rather than acting polite while stabbing people in the back. Heaven forbid you post something a little raw on a forum... honestly.

One thing is certain: nothing is ever good enough for you. Since I don't have the patience to sugarcoat my arguments just to keep everyone happy and satisfied, you lot never seem to be

My way of expressing myself is leveled specifically so you can actually understand me. If I started throwing around Latin phrases and academic nonsense, you’d just find something else to fight about. This way, I can reach everyone reading this forum—from the blue-collar workers to the Ivy League types alike.

Just so we're clear, most doctors I encounter are just like Benjamin Murphy2. There are plenty of them out there making "mistakes," and if I weren't here stirring the pot, people wouldn't even bother arguing—this entire thread wouldn't even make it past two pages without me starting a fight.

You know... I enjoy starting debates and "fighting." It's practically in my DNA.😬

I mean, what exactly is ever good enough for us, huh? 👋

We use the term "de" back in my hometown—I have no idea how it ended up being used here... but I know we say
de means "give me"
for example, "de nemoj" (give me a break) 😬
I haven't even finished my degree yet, but my "dear" friends clearly realize they can milk me for everything I'm worth.
Since my mother is a doctor and now I'm studying medicine too... it would be right in their interest. They can cut to the front of the line, get free meds, or snag a prescription. What do you think their motive is? It certainly pays to have connections everywhere.

Believe me, nobody is getting under my skin here—I’m actually sorry you all feel that way. It seems like no matter how I phrase things, it’s always wrong; if I say one thing, it's bad, if I say another, it's bad... apparently, I can never get it right.
I have much more important things to deal with than this forum "chatter." For me, this is just a way to unwind after everything else goes down—it's how I decompress. Honestly, this nonsense is actually good for me, because it gives me a space to say whatever I want without anyone knowing who I am or giving a damn. 😬

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And regarding my tendency to draw a line between doctors and other professions... honestly, I deal with this abroad all the time. People hit me with that, "Oh, you're in med school? You must think you're part of some elite class, huh?" It’s exhausting—either people are trying to suck up to me, or those who genuinely despise me are making their feelings very clear.

Look, I’m not making any distinctions here—we’ve been different since day one of med school. We're the elite, or so they say, which is where all that arrogance, rudeness, and corruption starts to take root. So, fine, if you insist, I truly believe I'm a demigod—though I'm not actually immortal. 🙄
You're the ones drawing lines, not me. Someone mentioned earlier that there's no room for error in this profession—as if that were news—but beyond that, people simply treat doctors differently than they treat those in other fields. My apologies, I didn't realize at the moment how to properly phrase it for non-medical professionals; let's just call them people in other occupations, if that works for you.

Doubt whatever you want. Honestly, the opinions of people I don't know and don't care about mean absolutely nothing to me. You keep your thoughts, I'll keep mine, and everyone can be perfectly happy and satisfied.
By the way, go back and read that post where I wrote "correctly" to see if I actually separate my negatives... then don't come telling me otherwise.
It seems you ran out of things to actually comment on, so you've settled for nitpicking my forum etiquette. It's honestly pathetic.

This relates back to my previous point—I already mentioned I have zero interest in using proper capitalization, punctuation, or fixing my grammar, so please don't come for me. Just because I choose not to write by textbook standards doesn't mean I don't know how to write...

Sure, professors can be like that, and frankly, nothing is ever going to change them.
Doctors don't allow themselves to act that way, but when things go sideways, they just happen—it doesn't always have to be intentional.
They expect absolute perfection, and I could argue this point a thousand times if necessary. I think that regardless of how much I want to be approachable and try to understand your perspectives—and I really am trying—it might just take some time. Right now, I’m just not feeling it. Perhaps it's better if I step away from the topic so I don't get lynched, allowing you all to continue sharing your experiences. It seems not many people have come forward with truly shocking stories yet—maybe the majority isn't actually corrupt... ah well, someday.

Enjoy yourselves.

You can talk about my literacy all you want. Honestly, my writing style has nothing to do with the actual point of this post. If I wanted to sit down and write a literary masterpiece, I would—but I just don't feel like it. This is a message board, after all; I’m going to write how I want. I’ve written every single one of my posts like this because frankly, I can't be bothered to worry about perfect punctuation or capitalization.
And for the record, I wasn't even addressing you specifically.
Everyone here seems so incredibly sensitive—as if everything has to happen exactly according to your little imagination. Guess What, it simply doesn't work that way for everyone. I wish things were perfect too, and I wish we had all the answers so there wouldn't be any misdiagnoses and life would be easier, but let's be real... arguing about this feels absurd at this point. There are a thousand different opinions, and there will always be someone who isn't satisfied.

It would be nice if she taught it; if she's still around, maybe she'll teach me too, and I can actually learn a few things...

And yeah, by the way, let's not insult each other. I haven't called anyone illiterate, nor have I insulted anyone, so I'd appreciate it if you didn't do the same to me. Everyone has the right to their own opinion and the right to write however they please.

Maybe not in your world, but in mine—the one I’ve lived in since I was a kid—people work twice as hard as anyone else. Still, you all love to talk about what goes on in the big cities; try coming to a smaller town for once to see how things actually get done. Neither you nor anyone else can claim to know how it is, because you simply don't. It's as simple as that.
It seems to me that you and Kimberly Nguyen just read whatever you want to read—as if I’m just here to defend everything and say nothing but good things. For heaven's sake, read the whole post. I can't help you if you just lash out at me for being "clueless" or rude. I've only ever run into one bad doctor in my entire life, probably because people in small towns don't spend their lives obsessing over themselves the way they do in the big metropolitan areas. And honestly? That isn't even a bad thing; those kinds of doctors at least don't overthink everything.

Regarding patient information, people really ought to stay informed,
rather than acting like they know more than they do and sticking their noses where they don't belong. These days, it’s not even that people aren't informed—it's that they meddle in things that aren't their business, which is a massive difference. How do you think we study medicine? How do you think we're treated? We're treated like the lowest tier of staff. And regarding this training I'm doing so I can eventually help people—I have to work my tail off to earn my keep, learn everything, and be as tedious as the U.S. government just to get anyone to show me something I can actually apply later on.

If certain things were clearer and everyone understood where they fit in, most of what you're talking about wouldn't even be an issue.

And like I've said a thousand times, mistakes happen because doctors don't know everything—and that is always going to be the case. In this profession, those mistakes shouldn't happen, but let's be real: it's impossible to prevent them entirely.
Once people finally accept that reality, things will be easier for everyone.

You know... I’ve given it some thought. I would change my approach just for you all—for the good people here

But no, I won't. I have no desire to mislead you or offer a wrong diagnosis—even once—just so I can spend my time laughing about it or feeling superior later on🙄

Everyone needs to chill out. There are far more important issues at hand, and we shouldn't have laypeople meddling where they don't belong; it only creates unnecessary chaos. Personally, I wouldn't dream of sticking my nose into an electrical engineer's work or a retail manager's business, simply because I don't know the first thing about those fields

The healthcare system is changing drastically because people keep interfering—diagnosing themselves and assuming they’re smarter than the professionals. If that's how it works, then fine, let's all become doctors and see how wonderful that turns out to be.
I'll tell you this much: I wish you could experience being in the shoes of a truly dedicated, honest physician on one of their most chaotic days. You’d see how difficult it is to manage everything while remaining educated, composed, and professional when you're actually exhausted. You talk about this as if it's easy, but you clearly have no idea what it's really like. Please, don't lecture me on things you don't understand. I've been in hospitals for as long as I can remember—partly due to my own health struggles, and partly because I want to learn everything possible so I can eventually help others and prevent the kind of mistakes that occur in this field. And then you come along and try to dictate whether I should switch my major

You don't know me, you don't know why I chose medicine, and you certainly shouldn't judge me—or anyone else
None of us truly know what happens behind closed doors when a doctor makes a mistake; the only person who knows is the physician involved. I have already stated a million times that there are idiots in this profession, but I am speaking exclusively on behalf of those who are still good people and help others selflessly. You should do the same for them. Sometimes, you just have to accept that errors happen—unfortunately, they are a reality in this line of work.

Oh, sure—they aren't allowed to... because they’re basically gods, right? And gods can do whatever they please. Give me a break. You guys clearly aren't thinking this through—not that it matters much. All I know is that you have no clue what it's actually like, yet you keep talking trash. Not everyone is handing out bribes, either. No one is forcing people to show up with cash or gifts in hand. Honestly, maybe they started acting so entitled and arrogant because of all the constant criticism and provocation from people like you. Have you even considered that? Of course not. In your eyes, everything is always their fault. Whatever. I'm done trying to "debate" with you people.