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So, I rolled into the ER around 7:30—just one of those nights, you know?—and ended up sitting there with this lady until about 8:20 before they actually started getting things moving. 👎

Thanks so much for all the help here :rollleyes: 👎
Hey mod, could you please lock and delete this? It’s getting pretty late and I actually have to head out to my doctor's appointment soon.

Copying my post from the soccer forum; they sent me over here...

HELP PEOPLE!
So, I had a total nightmare during my soccer game today—really trashed my right wrist. I was diving to block a shot (mind you, this was my first time playing goalie in forever!) and my arm just twisted completely wrong. Now the whole thing is swollen, and honestly, everywhere I touch it hurts like crazy. Even when I'm just sitting still, there's this constant, throbbing pain.
I've got a wrap on it, been icing it all day, and I even tried soaking the bandage in some rubbing alcohol—which sounds weird, I know—but nothing is working to dull the pain enough so I can actually get some sleep.
WHAT SHOULD I DO, HELP!! Does anyone have experience with this!!!

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Second update: I'm planning to head to the ER in the morning to get a splint put on, but the problem is these next six hours... if I stay awake, I'll just be suffering until then. Once they immobilize the arm, I can go straight to the psych ward, probably—I just can't fall asleep because no matter how I position it, it hurts.
///I don't think anything is broken, though—I could move my fingers and wiggle the joint a bit when it happened, but now everything just feels totally stiff.

// Third one:

Here is what I have in my medicine cabinet: Celebrex, Fonid, Contral, Claritin, and Tylenol.

I have no clue what does what—can any of these help?

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Someone just suggested the Tylenol, so I took one pill. Looking for expert opinions!

Carl Mendoza4, look—a common cold might stop you from hitting your peak potential based on natural talent plus all those grueling workouts, but that’s different from a genetic disorder where someone lacks the baseline requirements for high-level sports yet tries to push through anyway. Why should we bar someone from competing if they earned their skills purely through grit and dedication—(and believe me, I know a thing or two about dedication when it comes to staying in bed all day!)?

Carl Mendoza4 said:Just wanted to give you a quick heads-up...

So, at this point, I feel like you bringing this up again is basically just trolling.😉

The whole issue came back up because of that lack of logic I pointed out earlier.

And please, let's keep the replies to my thread intelligent—no being condescending, insulting, or dismissing things that have nothing to do with the actual debate. ☕ (Now you're starting to troll, but then there are those people who just spam without saying anything useful at all. Their go-to argument is basically calling everyone an idiot O.o -> you know exactly who I mean ^ ^)

Is being sick from a bacteria or a virus just... part of life?

Carl Mendoza4 said:Look, some medications clearly contain substances that can boost endurance or something similar, which is why they end up on the prohibited list. They aren't there just for fun.

An athlete basically has two choices: play while feeling like death, or stay on the injury list. It's like how you don't show up to school if you're too sick to function, unless you have some incredibly intense motivation to be there.🤷

Thomas Johnson7: Definitely. I know.🙂
But then again, even the fact that a player might be deaf or mute won't always save them from a red card for insulting an official, right?🤣

See, that’s exactly what I’m getting at! Now we’ve got Messi back in the mix again—and honestly, he shouldn't be able to just "fix" an illness that has nothing to do with his actual physical makeup. It wasn't some long-term issue; it was just a stupid little virus that knocked him sideways for a moment. But somehow, Leo managed to take those (let's call them "unnatural") physical advantages of his and actually make them even better—it's like he doubled down on them without any repercussions. If things worked the way they should logically, you'd think it would work the other way around, right? 🤷

Alright, cousin, what’s your take here? If you want to talk nonsense before we get all "professional" about this—let's just say we've already settled the whole Lionel Messi situation.
Now I'm really curious about the answer to the second part of your question—the stuff about medication. Like, imagine if Lionel Messi, or anyone else who’s feeling absolutely wired and takes a pill that happens to contain a banned substance. When they force them to pee in a cup mid-game and it shows up on the test, they're going to get penalized, right? It doesn't matter why they took it—it's because it shouldn't be in their system. Are there actually any exceptions to that? Going back to the original question in the title—where do we draw the line?

granitefox16 said:What are you even trying to say here?

Are you claiming Lionel Messi is some kind of superstar just because he received growth hormone treatments back in the day?

Most of those athletes getting banned are women who used male hormones to essentially become men—like that whole situation with the female track stars in China—which was medically unjustifiable and clearly meant to boost physical strength.

If someone who’s 4'3" needs growth hormone, you're treating a medical condition. That isn't doping... it's medicine.

Or do you think Lionel Messi should have just accepted being a dwarf and quit playing soccer?

Besides, if a kid in Africa tears his ligaments, his career is over. But a kid at Real Madrid gets surgery to rebuild those ligaments and keeps playing. So, since you're such a genius, let me ask you this:

Does that make the guy in Madrid a doper, just because the kid in Africa couldn't get that same treatment?

Well, yeah—I mean, without it, he’d still be an incredible technician, sure, but he wouldn't be quite what 😉
he is today... you know, like those guys who are tactically brilliant but just lack the physical presence or whatever. But look, I'm not even really talking about him specifically right now—it's more about where we draw the line and who gets to decide that boundary, you know?

Carl Mendoza4 said:Actually, I think the comparison hits the nail on the head. ☕
Think about how severe leg fractures used to be treated back in the day. Or how being extremely short wasn't something people could "fix" because the medicine just didn't exist yet. Nowadays, those things can actually be treated. Yes, truly treated.

See, I think your issue is that you're settling for a surface-level understanding and don't really have an interest in learning more—plus, you seem a bit overly worked up and aggressive. My honest advice? Pick up a book once in a while instead of spending all your time on ESPN.com. Trust me, knowing English will be way more useful to you tomorrow than clinging to memories of Schuster's old tactical setups. 😉

Man, listen, I'm just asking where the line is! How short do you actually have to be before seeking growth treatment becomes standard? And if someone is just naturally tiny, they aren't "sick." If you ask anyone if being small is a disease, they'll tell you the same thing. It's kind of like if someone goes in for a procedure to "enhance" themselves for purely aesthetic reasons—it's not a medical necessity. A medical necessity would be if you actually needed surgery after an accident or something, like a reconstructive fix.😉

My question remains the same, though. Everyone wants to debate Messi, but I'm curious about the distinction between a medical need and a competitive edge. I mean, plenty of medications contain substances that are banned, and I know there have been cases in track and field where athletes got busted for it. But when someone clearly makes massive strides because of legitimate medical treatment, everyone just shrugs it off...

SO WHERE IS THE LINE?

rustypanther80 said:Hey, Lionel Messi has reached an incredible level of dominance lately, which is exactly why he’s outclassing every single goalkeeper 😬

Nah, I don't know about that... though his speed and sheer strength are definitely something else—it's almost enough to make you wonder if it's all "natural."

Carl Mendoza4 said:Look, man, this statement really shows how little you actually know about anatomy and medicine:

That is such blatant nonsense that I won't even bother breaking it down for you. Honestly, I suggest you pick up a biology textbook or two—or better yet, just ask your high school biology teacher tomorrow why you're making such a fool of yourself.

And let me give you a little counterpoint... why is Edward getting treated for a broken leg? There are countless amputees who live just as "normally" as little people do. Instead of being shuttled from hospital to hospital for rehab, he could have just stepped onto the field with a saw and a cap and handled it himself. 🙄

Man, what a wild comparison! Look, Lionel Messi was just born with the physical build to be about 4'11". Vlade Divac was born with an average frame—a broken leg has nothing to do with hormone levels. Guys like Crouch or Zizic are just naturally built to be 6'7"; that's just how they came into this world. Personally, I'm a bit too clumsy to play pro soccer, even though I've got decent physical traits—strength, okay height, good vertical, stamina, stuff like that—so I don't pursue it professionally. There's even a "dwarfism national team" made up of players who are incredibly talented but just aren't physically built for the standard game. It's the same story with tons of gifted people who simply lack the physical capacity to compete at the highest level. If they used hormones after treatment, they'd probably be suspended or penalized, right? So why should there be exceptions?

Carl Mendoza4 said:🤣
You’ve really cooked up quite a load of nonsense here.

I just wanted to point out that growth hormone therapy is actual medical treatment, not some kind of "procedure" done just for aesthetic reasons.

I mean, if some junkie goes in for treatment and ends up being 8 feet tall and weighing 330 pounds, they could probably carry five people at once while sprinting 44 miles/h. you know what I'm getting at? his skills aren't solely due to his 😉
there are perfectly normal little people out there living their lives just fine. I mean, goodness, not everyone is born to play soccer—some folks are just clumsy, some have great technique but move like they're stuck in molasses, and some are about as bright as a broken lightbulb and just juggle the ball during halftime... but after all that hormone stuff, trying to go toe-to-toe with "natural" athletes 🤷

So, here’s my take. I’ve been chewing on this whole doping thing for a long time now, and honestly, I just can't wrap my head around it. There are a few specific cases where the line between what's allowed and what isn't seems totally blurry to me. I think putting the focus on soccer is a good way to illustrate this, especially since one of the weirdest examples involves arguably the greatest player on the planet right now.
Basically—doping is defined as using substances to artificially boost physical performance, right? You know, stuff that isn't really tied to just hard work or your natural genetic gifts.
Usually, you get flagged for doping if you're taking anabolic steroids or anything else that forces the body to grow or push past its limits—like, say, flooding your system with adrenaline. We see athletes getting suspended all the time, sometimes even without intending to cheat. Like, someone might just be treating a common cold and end up testing positive because of some banned ingredient in their medicine. It makes me wonder—if the goal was purely medical treatment, why the harsh punishment?
But here is what’s really bugging me. Let's look at the "Lionel Messi" situation. The guy was genetically quite small. He used growth hormones to increase his height and mass, and now he’s one of the most successful players in history. Here’s the catch: from a strictly medical standpoint, he could have lived a perfectly normal life just being a smaller guy, but he opted for hormone treatments for aesthetic reasons (his height) and sports reasons (since his first club basically passed on him because of his size). Why is that considered acceptable when it clearly impacts how he performs on the field? I mean, he could have played fine without it, but now... imagine if every player followed that logic. If someone like Didier Drogba had access to similar therapies, he’d end up 6'7" and 250 pounds, probably becoming the most dominant force the sport has ever seen. Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating there—but you get my point! It would change everyone's ceiling entirely.
So, my big question is this: why is it okay for someone to "treat" themselves with growth hormones and then go on to become an elite athlete—where those physical changes play such a massive role alongside their talent—while other people get punished for taking basic cold medicine that barely even affects their performance once they're healthy again? It feels like a huge contradiction.

Matthew Anderson4 said:With a roster like that...🤣

get real 😉

Sure, Real Madrid might not be the biggest household name out there right now, but honestly—even with the limited chances they actually got—having the best keeper in the world on the pitch just showed everyone who's boss 🙏

Betty Rogers2 said:Yeah, honestly... someone playing for NK Trabaština probably has more raw talent than some kid sitting on the bench for the Real Madrid junior squad.

Oh, for sure... I mean, there are definitely plenty of talented juniors out there in the world who could give Dani Parejo a run for his money.😉 🙏

Bradley Fisher3 said:If people watched this game without that heavy anti-Italian bias, they’d see that the Italians were actually being decent by kicking the ball out the second they saw an opponent go down, which is a huge difference from the Spaniards who tended to just keep playing until the ref finally blew the whistle... And as for Di Natale, one good play doesn't make a career.
When I think about fair play, the first person who comes to mind is that guy everyone calls the "fascist who has no place in soccer"—Di Canio—and of course, he's Italian too...

I mean, didn't you notice how they walked onto the field against the Stallions? It felt like their whole vibe was just "let's get this over with" without giving up a single goal. That’s why those scrappy situations actually worked out in their favor—they were playing defense and looking to close the book early. The Spanish guys, though—they weren't feeling that at all. They actually want to play football, you know? They were out there trying to create chances and push for a goal rather than just running out the clock.