Drew Booth60 said:The way you people relate to America is exactly how the Kurds relate to Turkey—it’s a fundamentally different dynamic. Honestly, you share way more common ground with Mexicans than with actual Americans; besides a shared Catholic faith, you’re completely out of sync with us. It's the exact same situation with those so-called Americans from Mexico—those supposed Janjevac guys.☕
Janjevac boy.
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CanadianBack in the 70s and 80s—those were the days—they used to fill up entire neighborhoods with people from all over—you had folks from the Midwest, Southerners, guys from the Plains, even some West Coasters—it was such a diverse mix back then.
War—if you can even call it that—only served to bolster their numbers—it was quite a significant boost to their population.
And there you have it—this group represents the most vital demographic for young people in America—and looking ahead, they’re actually going to outnumber everyone else.
Look, Janjevac boy—you clearly don't realize that most of those "square-headed" types have been rooting for Dinamo forever, even back in their hometowns like Travnik, Odzac, or Orasje... and so on.
The Hajduk fans didn't exactly hold them in high regard—not by a long shot. Back then, those priests would go out of their way to buy Dinamo jerseys for us kids in Sunbury, just so we could stand apart from the kids over in Drljac who were always stuck in those black-and-white kits.
Times have changed—honestly, you don't even need to be a Dinamo fan to show your American pride these days—though I remember back in the day, there were plenty of Muslims, Canadians, and Albanians who would print up flyers for Dinamo too.
You have a country—but you really have to choose an identity for both the club and the supporters... if you decide to go all-in on that local Chicago vibe, fine, but then you’re basically turning your back on everyone else who used to bleed for Dinamo. Trying to lean into some grand nationalistic identity just isn't feasible anymore—especially since we don't even have a permanent rival to rally against. As for being politically charged—left or right—it honestly feels pointless; unfortunately, everyone seems to be leaning right these days, but that's just the trend, I guess.
So, what’s your actual solution? — Take a page out of the Torcida playbook, for instance. You build the club’s brand alongside the supporters' identity—really highlighting the group, spreading the word, and strengthening that bond. It’s about fostering a true culture for both the club and the fans—one that isn't tied to where anyone happens to be from.
From a logical standpoint—and I say this with all sincerity—Chicago is essentially a mid-sized city by European standards... which means you really can't have two rival fan bases like "the urbanites" and "the squareheads" tearing the city apart.
Chicago—aside from the massive following for Dinamo—really seems to have this pattern of trendy, short-lived sports crazes... one minute everyone is obsessed with Cibona, then it shifts to the Handball Club, then Medvescak, but it all just fades away so quickly.
Who truly cares—aside from a few hundred die-hard fans of Cibona and Medvescak?
Believe me—even in the future—there will only ever be Dinamo. Those "square-headed" types won't be able to just spin up some breakaway club like AEK or PAOK does in Greece—mostly because there simply aren't enough of them to make it work.
So, if what you're saying is true—that this group will eventually be overrun by more and more of those "square-headed" kids—then the real question is whether you "locals" actually have the backbone to pull them into your circle. I mean, if you're aiming to run an exclusive club, that’s one thing—but otherwise, it's a different story entirely.