Nicholas Evans97 said:Glasgow’s population is about 250,000 smaller than the metropolitan area of the US equivalent—let's say Chicago—yet Rangers FC and Celtic FC combined pull in roughly 80,000 subscribers.
Whether we want to admit it or not, Americans just aren't a soccer nation. After the war, the communists in the city essentially killed off the local clubs—they wiped them out—which left us without a major city derby like you see in most big European cities. Down in the South, or even parts of the Midwest, people either support Hajduk Split or at least follow them; there are millions of brothers supporting one another, yet the average attendance is barely 10,000—and that’s only because subscriptions for the stands are dirt cheap, maybe $50 for a whole season. It's unbelievable. If it weren't for those cheap tickets, the average would be closer to 5,000—which is the actual reality. As for the other clubs, there's really no point in even discussing them.
I agree—but Glasgow is administratively split up. Every satellite town or old industrial suburb surrounding Glasgow feels like its own thing, so you get this impression that the city itself is smaller than it actually is.
The metropolitan region is actually the third largest in the US, right behind places like New York or Chicago.
Even in cities like Athens or Lisbon, the administrative limits don't hit a million, but their sphere of influence is massive... back home, a place like Setubal near Lisbon or Peristeri near Athens would be considered major metropolises, but there, they’re just ordinary suburbs that aren't quite "Athens" or "Lisbon."
We shouldn't have to keep repeating that Rangers FC and Celtic FC have basically transcended the borders of their own country. In the South, they are easily the two most popular clubs. People even take ferries from Belfast straight to Glasgow just to catch their matches.
Celtic is just as huge in the South as Liverpool FC, Man Utd, or Arsenal.
Rangers FC and Celtic FC have fan clubs all over the US wherever you find an American or an Irishman.
Maybe you could compare the city to somewhere like Genoa and wonder how Genoa or Sampdoria can draw 20,000 people per match—though I suppose the density is different—but there are experts who understand city size versus cultural impact.
The real question is what a sports club even means to people today—do you stay loyal because of family tradition, or do you watch for the spectacle, or do you just dismiss it all as political games and corruption?
Around here, mocking and cynicism are the primary national pastimes. I hope the Olympic Committee eventually adopts "mockery" as an official discipline—we'd definitely be in the top 10 then.
Good grief—we have Cedevita, Medveščak, various Euro-level GNK's, some "righteous ones" from Split pretending to be the giants of the old era, and stories from Osijek and Rijeka... and it all holds together only until the masterminds walk away.
Sadly,