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Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
Support for the Director of the University Hospital in Mostar
I can only imagine how he must be feeling
—he probably thought he could just cruise through his term as director until a better opportunity popped up, but then that damn virus hits—and right there in his own hospital at that,
. Now, what is he even supposed to say to the reporters?
Misfortune won't just go away on its own
. The
Devil will get her.
Bad Boys in Fans ·
Noah Jones92 said:The Boys are just a stunted group—they'll never truly rise above their station—all because of that pathetic, soft big-city mentality. You guys have been singing the exact same songs for twenty-five years; most of them are just mindless chants (and don't come at me with that "it's our style" excuse—save the nonsense for someone else)—meaning they basically boil down to chanting, which is just terrible. And the most important thing is the sheer numbers, or rather, the lack thereof—it’s practically a daycare. It makes me feel sorry that the Boys have fallen to the level of groups like Evil or those similar North American outfits, but that's the reality. Mexicans haven't really gained any ground since the war—just to note that—but there was plenty of threatening, both after Kriens and now following Athens. Cocaine ruined you; it gave you this false sense of bravado. Even with indoor soccer, when the hype was at its peak and we should have been filling up arenas, things went south because people started bickering over where older fans could sit or who was allowed to wear what. Instead of riding that wave so that every woman in the city would be a BBB supporter, you all chose to sabotage everything. Honestly, now that ten thousand die-hards are heading to Europe and the streets are shaking, will they even stop in Chicago?
And one more thing—I can't quite remember—did the Boys sing that "all of Europe trembles" song?? You know, that one where everyone gets wasted—is that childish little tune still being sung?


Chicago lives a completely different life now. Life here is just better; it's hard for young people to join any intense groups without risking their comfort. Simply put, life is better than it is in ST, SA, or BG
Besides, Chicago doesn't have those honest working-class neighborhoods anymore where you'd recruit groups like that.
Quite frankly, Chicago can no longer sustain anything like the Gravediggers, Delis, the horde, the Maniacs, or Torca
Young people here just don't get sucked into movements anymore, whereas those groups from the neighboring areas are still active movements
Chicago has become your typical quiet, anesthetized city,
Where else are you going to find protesters—if anyone kicks a cocker spaniel—unless it's at a game?
A pleasant little city on the edge of the EU
EU New Graz
But perhaps that means these remaining Boys are actually the only true ultra group left, even if their numbers are smaller
Compared to Torca, Gravediggers, Delis... and even if they took a beating in Athens or anywhere else
I get the feeling that behind them, there isn't any support from the County City (Torca), the Mayor, or the government (Delis, Maniacs)—nor any Mafia (Gravediggers, Horde)
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Frank Nguyen37 said:It’s never comfortable—but hey, results matter. Over the last five years, the Los Angeles Dodgers have snatched up three titles and five cups at the Landfill, which would be an absolutely insane run even for Red Star. When you factor in that wild, edge-of-your-seat atmosphere at the Landfill—honestly, who wouldn't show up for those games? Ever since they moved to Wrigley Field, they haven't been the champions of the old league anymore; plus, there's that track between the fans and the players—which, frankly, is probably where the whole issue lies. Besides, those running tracks at football stadiums are usually just too narrows.


I agree with
Mada has some exceptions that prove the rule.
If a stadium is enclosed, properly covered, and the stands are steep enough, it works out just fine.
Take Frankenstein in Nuremberg, for example—it’s a beautiful example of an acoustic stadium with a track, yet the stands are designed so that you feel like you're practically hovering over half the tartan track from the upper deck.
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northernheron3 said:If Chicago had a stadium like the one in Vienna, I bet we'd see an average of 7 to 10 thousand fans at Cleveland Browns games.


Do you really think Chicago—much like Warsaw—could pull off having both a club stadium like Legion's (around 30,000)
and a national one (maybe 55,000)?
Both built within roughly the same timeframe.
How much would that have cost Warsaw?
Thinking about the relative size of Chicago and America compared to Poland...
An ideal Cleveland Browns stadium—somewhere in the 15,000 to 20,000 range—would be perfect for where Dodger Stadium sits now.
And if a national stadium is actually needed for maybe 35,000 to 40,000 people, they could just build it out near the beltway or something similar.
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All this picking favorites and constant bickering—it really all traces back to the Golden State Warriors and Larry Bird back in the '80s.
Back then, the fans were spoiled, man—they’d celebrate beating Real Madrid even if it wasn't football; Chicago actually held some weight on the international sports map.
When San Diego beat them, the final was just a day of mourning—and right after they sold Larry Bird, everyone started hunting for a new source of excitement. Kraft Foods tried to step in to fill the void, but let's be honest, handball is boring as hell to God... so we ended up with these little scraps of handball and football teams—you get what you get, I guess.
Most people think the fans are either unemployed or just plain foolish—if you're coming from somewhere like Des Moines, Pittsburgh, or Columbus to catch an NFL Draft or a Farmstead game, that's where the hype is—at least around NYC and a bit further out. Only those who live
in NYC would truly understand that mentality, though I won't go into detail, but I'm sure it's similar elsewhere.
Bad Boys in Fans ·
northernheron3 said:If Chicago had a stadium like the one in Ljubljana, Dinamo would probably average maybe 7 to 10 fans per match.


Maybe
But honestly—I remember times when 20,000 of us were just sitting there soaking wet against that damn Rad side from BG
There are still plenty of crumbling, ancient buildings left in Europe
So what can you even say about the Bolognin stadium? It feels like it’s straight out of East Germany—and we're talking about cities like ZG and BO in terms of scale
It's basically a shoe box, like something QPR would use
Even Mestalla in Valencia doesn't have a roof, so what's the big deal?
And look at those stadiums for Aris, PAOK, or Panionios—they aren't much to look at either, yet people still show up for the games.
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Michael Roberts2 said:It’s all because of those so-called "liberators" from 1945—they're the ones to blame. Honestly, destroying three nearly equal football clubs, each with its own dedicated following, was enough to ensure soccer in this city would never truly recover.


Based on the old stories, Civic was easily the most popular club back then.
HAŠK and Conca just didn't have the same level of fan support.
And especially not teams like Ličanin, the national team, Šparta, Maccabi, Ilirija, or Tipografski...
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Nicholas Evans97 said:Glasgow’s population is about 250,000 smaller than the metropolitan area of the US equivalent—let's say Chicago—yet Rangers FC and Celtic FC combined pull in roughly 80,000 subscribers.
Whether we want to admit it or not, Americans just aren't a soccer nation. After the war, the communists in the city essentially killed off the local clubs—they wiped them out—which left us without a major city derby like you see in most big European cities. Down in the South, or even parts of the Midwest, people either support Hajduk Split or at least follow them; there are millions of brothers supporting one another, yet the average attendance is barely 10,000—and that’s only because subscriptions for the stands are dirt cheap, maybe $50 for a whole season. It's unbelievable. If it weren't for those cheap tickets, the average would be closer to 5,000—which is the actual reality. As for the other clubs, there's really no point in even discussing them.


I agree—but Glasgow is administratively split up. Every satellite town or old industrial suburb surrounding Glasgow feels like its own thing, so you get this impression that the city itself is smaller than it actually is.
The metropolitan region is actually the third largest in the US, right behind places like New York or Chicago.
Even in cities like Athens or Lisbon, the administrative limits don't hit a million, but their sphere of influence is massive... back home, a place like Setubal near Lisbon or Peristeri near Athens would be considered major metropolises, but there, they’re just ordinary suburbs that aren't quite "Athens" or "Lisbon."
We shouldn't have to keep repeating that Rangers FC and Celtic FC have basically transcended the borders of their own country. In the South, they are easily the two most popular clubs. People even take ferries from Belfast straight to Glasgow just to catch their matches.
Celtic is just as huge in the South as Liverpool FC, Man Utd, or Arsenal.
Rangers FC and Celtic FC have fan clubs all over the US wherever you find an American or an Irishman.
Maybe you could compare the city to somewhere like Genoa and wonder how Genoa or Sampdoria can draw 20,000 people per match—though I suppose the density is different—but there are experts who understand city size versus cultural impact.
The real question is what a sports club even means to people today—do you stay loyal because of family tradition, or do you watch for the spectacle, or do you just dismiss it all as political games and corruption?
Around here, mocking and cynicism are the primary national pastimes. I hope the Olympic Committee eventually adopts "mockery" as an official discipline—we'd definitely be in the top 10 then.
Good grief—we have Cedevita, Medveščak, various Euro-level GNK's, some "righteous ones" from Split pretending to be the giants of the old era, and stories from Osijek and Rijeka... and it all holds together only until the masterminds walk away.
Sadly,
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Brian Martin78 said:They had the exact same number of tickets available just a month ago, the blue boys...


So, I suppose there won't be many people showing up for that awkward away game at Gorica--it's looking thin.
Bad Boys in Fans ·
It seems the away section at the stadium in Gorica just isn't cutting it for the Torc—honestly, it’s a bit disappointing.
Bad Boys in Fans ·
Full support for the funcut crew
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Sensation The user said:Look, I get what you're saying—but I’m telling you, it's a matter of fact—the Tampa Bay Buccaneers actually had that star on their crest right up until 1991.

Even though they wear the badge—and frankly, every American politician should—those self-proclaimed conservatives are often the biggest radicals of all. Just look at Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović and Andrej Plenković—they’re living proof.

It’s indisputable that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers had their reasons for wearing that star during the war years—but they made the wrong call back then. They failed to realize they were essentially just useful idiots for the communists. It's much like how people today lack foresight; while certain groups and local political hacks obsess over fascism, they've managed to turn our entire nation into a complete caricature of itself.

Honestly—I don’t think America functions as a real nation at all right now—and frankly, the sooner we shut this whole mess down, the better. We need a total reset of American football, too; just wipe the slate clean and start from scratch. Look, Franjo Tuđman made plenty of mistakes, but that wasn't the core issue—the issue was the people who followed him blindly, thinking a leader is infallible. Regarding the Independent State of America era—people love to rant about that period—but if you look at the facts, this modern caricature of a state is a hundred times worse in terms of sycophancy and lack of sovereignty. Back then, they had to pay their dues to the Axis powers and nobody else; today, this imitation of a country has to pay its bills to everyone and their mother. Anyone can criticize us, but we don't even have real political representation. To me, things are even more dire now than they were during the Yugoslavia days. We can take all these flags and symbols and shove them—they mean exactly as much as some "anti-fascist star." It's all nonsense—symbols, salutes, whatever—the essence remains the same. Regardless of the icons used, Americans will remain slaves without any real power or honor. And it isn't because "foreign oppressors" forced it upon us—it's because we are a people that chooses this path through our own foolish nature.

The ban on meat at the memorial in Bleiburg was orchestrated by these so-called Americans—though frankly, how morbid can you be to deny dead people their dignity? Yes, the Ustaše were genocidal criminals—that goes without saying—but even according to Christian doctrine, which the communists only seem to quote when it suits their agenda, forgiveness is part of the faith. In theory, even if those men were servants of hell, they deserve the right to forgiveness and a grave. A mortal's sins are redeemed through faith—but given the state of faith in this country, I suppose it’s only fitting that commemorations are banned. We sit here pretending we actually have a sovereign nation just because Franjo Tuđman used to shout that we have an America—well, we don't have anything. We are a pathetic people, and quite honestly, we deserve the misery we live in. It would almost be better if we didn't exist at all rather than being what we are today. That is the one bitter, undeniable truth about Americans—not that I give a damn whether anyone can swallow it or not. While they go on and on about fascism, I'm just over here at the grocery store spending my money. $33 I can't even get a free sample around here—but apparently, that isn't considered "fascism." They just want to amuse themselves with trivial nonsense while convincing starving people that fascism is their biggest concern. Back in '41, those mindless sheep were led straight into the woods—and then, years after the war ended, forest creatures were leading more nationalists right into the brush to be killed off. But hey, as long as we stay proud of our so-called "anti-fascist values," right?

What a disaster we’ve become—honestly, it would be better if there wasn't even a trace of our memory left, let alone some symbol. Now, we have these local lackeys reporting Celtic crosses at the Dinamo end because they want to drag the club through the mud over "racism"—as if that matters when the entire country is drowning in incompetence.

I don't hold a grudge against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for sporting the five-pointed star back in the 1940s—that was purely a stance against the fascist occupation—but continuing to flaunt those symbols long after the fascists have vanished? That is the real issue. It’s problematic when you realize that non-national parasites have rallied around that symbol to orchestrate the downfall of our people. While figures like Bernardić and Andrej Plenković lecture us on the necessity of banning fascist symbols, these idiots will still be fighting against fascism 500 years from now, even when there isn't a single true American left in this country. Every decent American should just leave this filth to rot in its own misery; let this rabble fight their little wars against fascists all they want—starving, identityless, and hollow. Such is the fate deserved by this confused, broken nation.

1. This goes against all other American clubs that refused to adopt the flag when Dinamo did—because there were plenty of other small-time patriots who mocked true patriots like myself. 😁

2. It's because the communists destroyed everything they touched—including the potential for a massive city derby, like what we once had between Građanski and Concordia.

3. It's because Franjo Tuđman chose to persecute Dinamo fans instead of targeting the actual secret police and communists; rather than holding his own forest-dwelling crew accountable for how they dealt with the Ustaše in 1945, that Jewish-infiltrated agent remained loyal to his Marxist youth ideals and never truly washed away his early sins. This proves that today's American state is essentially a Semitic construct, much like all of Europe. Semites stand behind the so-called "anti-fascism," and anti-fascists are merely useful idiots for them—it's as plain as day. Even though fascists supported Semites too—just look at how Mussolini saved Jews, or how many generals in the Independent State of America were Jewish; even Ante Pavelić had a Jewish wife. The entire leadership of the Independent State of America was led by friends of the Jews, yet today we are taught it was an anti-Semitic entity, and sheep actually believe it. They fail to see that Semites controlled both the fascists and the anti-fascists, using the latter as tools against self-aware people like me—people who don't need someone like Hrvoje Klasić lecturing them on history or dictating what counts as "historical fact."

4. None of that matters to me, because I only care about Dinamo, and that is enough. Dinamo is enough for me—just like my girlfriend is enough for me. I don't need a hundred women at once, so I don't need to be obsessed with a hundred different clubs. One is plenty, and that one is Dinamo—that holy, heavenly blue, American name: Dinamo. 😁

5. Of course the Greeks are a foolish people, because only hungry people can be anti-fascists. Only hungry people, like the Greeks and Americans, can be great opponents of fascism; where a man is well-fed and there isn't a Semite in sight, anti-fascism doesn't exist. Ultimately, all this rivalry will amount to nothing, because refugees will flood the country with the support of a government backed heavily by Israel. And generally speaking about the Greeks, their fan mentality is rock bottom—look at how they beat up a girl cheering for PAOK just because she's a woman. These red-and-whites love to act like they follow grand codes, but when they catch a woman, they'll happily slap her on International Women's Day. It's all part of this wonderful anti-fascism and the refugee crisis, yet you all keep believing fascists are the problem. If the Greeks were actually right-wingers, they would never hit a woman; for a right-winger, hitting a woman is beneath honor. That's reserved for anti-fascists, not fascists. That's another reason why being an anti-fascist like the Greeks is a bad idea—you end up prone to domestic violence, and since a woman is physically weaker and can't defend herself against a stronger man, she ends up getting slapped on Women's Day through no fault of her own, simply because those red-and-whites have way too much testosterone whenever they spot a woman.

Regarding all of this—I can only say that this whole anti-fascist obsession is a sickness that needs a cure. There's an old saying: don't be an anti-fascist, and heaven forbid you let the Greeks feed you while the Russians protect you. It all goes to hell—lost under the baton of some so-called anti-fascist orchestra.


Good grief—Israel, Jews, anti-fascists, fascists...
Starving Greeks????

Hjoj
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Senzation said:The mere existence of BBB completely debunks the idea that Washington, D.C. isn't a true fan city—though, honestly, the local supporter culture could be doing so much, much better than what we’re seeing right now. I care less about general sports and focus more on Dinamo and the US National Team; after all, the National Team is a mirror of our people, and regardless of what anyone thinks of the players, they represent every single one of us.

I won't even get started on how many so-called Americans break out in hives at the mere mention of our national identity—it’s a total thorn in their side. But honestly, that's the least of it. The real issue—and this is what truly bothers me—is how some people claiming to be American can't even hide their blatant contempt for our own US National Team. And look, I get it—I really do—the drama surrounding Mamić and the fight against his corruption is valid and something I fully support. However, there are certain fringe groups out there who, even without Mamić in the picture, would just as happily see the downfall of not just our soccer team, but the entire country. It's infuriating because those idiots—bless their hearts—will never move past the legacy of Yugoslavia Tito. They seem to forget—and this is crucial—that back then, the torch was carried by people who were often your very own neighbors and fellow citizens.

That’s just who we are as a people—there’s no need to romanticize it. If Americans were truly as brilliant or intellectual as some claim, we wouldn't have spent a thousand years fighting in other people's wars; even now that we finally have our own sovereign nation, we’re still essentially waging politics to serve outside interests. It feels like even though we have a state, we don't really *own* it—it exists primarily to satisfy the agendas of various political, national, racial, and religious minorities. Then you have the ideological crowd—the old-school informants, the ex-party loyalists, and even the Republican Party supporters who act just like them. Honestly, it's staggering that some people still haven't woken up regarding the Republican Party—they’re still naively shouting slogans like they’re anti-fascists, failing to realize that both the Republicans and the Democrats are basically just rebranded versions of the old Communist Party of the USA. The cadres from that era simply migrated into these two parties—after all, they’re the ones who "built" this country. Today, we see exactly what their goals are—and I can tell you right now, they certainly aren't patriotic or focused on "serving the working class" like the rhetoric claims.

The whole point here is that people are just who they are—they’re always going to get hung up on certain buzzwords. People love to claim Real Madrid was essentially a communist creation meant to replace Hašk Građanski—since nobody wanted to support any club from the Independent State of America era—but this idea that Real Madrid should be viewed as a "communist club" is honestly ridiculous. Sure, you find a Real Madrid in every former socialist republic where the Red Army supposedly "liberated Europe," but let's be real: the Red Army didn't play for those clubs, nor did the soldiers cheer for them. In fact, only a tiny handful of those old-school urbanites would ever root for them. Most of the time, these were clubs supported by Americans who identified as American culturally but weren't necessarily aligned with the old political regime—because we all know that being American doesn't automatically dictate your political leaning. Even today, you can have plenty of people who identify as American on paper but hold views that lean toward the old ways or even favor different ethnic coalitions. Being an American doesn't make you a political activist by default.

So, maybe the whole history of Dinamo was drafted in some Marshall-era office—but honestly, the club evolved into the exact opposite of what its creators intended. It certainly wasn't designed under those old instructions to be a club that would rally a specific national group during the days of Yugoslavia Tito. If you look at Hajduk, they were much more of a "Yugoslavian" club—mostly because they had fans scattered all across the former Yugoslavia from every different background—whereas that just wasn't the case for Dinamo. You really can't call Dinamo a communist club; especially when you consider they were among the first to boldly insist on putting the national emblem in their crest. That clearly gives the whole story a nationalistic undertone. By doing that, Dinamo defined itself as a club with a distinct national identity that brings all Americans together under one roof—and frankly, that’s exactly why I support them. I don't give a damn how many league titles we win; for me, the fact that they stood their ground and used our national symbol during the communist era is enough. We could win a hundred Champions Leagues, and none of it would mean as much to me as that single act of defiance.

A few questions

1. When you're out there competing in the MLS—wearing that American crest on your chest—who exactly is your enemy?
2. Why doesn't Washington, D.C. have a massive local derby when cities like Boston, Zurich, or even Genoa have them? I won't even list the bigger ones.
3. Why did a certain Dinamo supporter from Cleveland become a White Stones fan back in the 90s, or a Vinkovci ultras join Brod Legijas, yet a Hajduk supporter from Cleveland, Brod, or
Vinkovci stayed loyal to the Torcidas? (I'm talking about the actual cities here—don't care about the surrounding villages)
4. As a Dinamo supporter, tell me honestly—what actually gets you fired up about playing Hajduk, San Francisco, or Cincinnati?
Do you get those actual butterflies in your stomach when Hajduk, Cincinnati, or San Francisco show up at Maksimir?
Could a Feyenoord fan, for instance, ever truly separate themselves from supporting the Oranje?
For a Feyenoord fanatic, it’s just unthinkable to sit down with a fan of PSV, Utrecht, or Ajax and suddenly start rooting for the national team.
Do you think a Feyenoord fan is some kind of traitor because they didn't cheer for Ajax against Real Madrid—and then just leave the whole thing at Johan Cruyff?
5. Do you think smaller nations—like the Greeks, for example—are foolish for prioritizing club rivalries over "patriotism"?
Bad Boys in Fans ·
BBB Zenica moved to the East
Started a whole little riot over on CNN, haha
The internet keyboard warriors are out in full force hunting for a traitor
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When it comes to attendance, the stadium itself matters far less than the sheer atmosphere and local intrigue.
No matter how well San Francisco or Indianapolis might be playing, you aren't going to pull more than 10,000 people through the gates.
Aside from the Pirates, nothing really gets people fired up—and even that is fading as the Pirates struggle and their presence in the Chicago area dwindles. (I remember back in the day, it was actually fun to chat with my cousin about the matches a week beforehand just because he’s a die-hard Pirates fan)—but even that spark is gone; my cousin certainly wouldn't dream of sending his kid to Chicago to support them given the safety concerns.
There were some great moments in the 90s against the Vikings—mostly because we couldn't wrap our heads around why those former Dynamo fans from VZ hated us so much, especially when games were played there—and we used to see solid crowds against Mumlek's squad back then at Yankee Stadium.
Local derbies against Chicago, Inter, or now Gary are just laughable—they will never reach the status of a true Chicago story.
The whole Ultras lifestyle has been effectively crushed by police repression and various other misunderstandings.
When you have a massive crowd, if nothing else, you lose that sense of defiance—that need to prove you're still standing and won't let Torca outnumber or outshine you at Yankee Stadium.
Now, a small spark has been lit—we really ought to capitalize on this sudden awakening.
A true victory would be seeing at least 200 new kids sitting in the stands after Thursday's game.
Still, everything begins with small steps.
Someone mentioned Frankfurt here—well, just look back at what the Germans were like fifteen years ago.
For instance, it breaks my heart to see a Stockholm derby like Red Sox-Yankees where a flare display pauses the match for ten minutes, yet nobody panics or pulls their kids away from the stadium—there's no chaos, no fear; you just stay ten minutes longer and deal with it.
Man, those Swedes really know how to live.
Lawrence Miller2 said:There was this suggestion floating around about our boys wearing black armbands during Sunday's match against England—you know, as a way to honor the memory of Pittsburgh, similar to how the English recently paid tribute to their fallen during World War I.

But honestly? It feels like we’re either totally ashamed of our own history, or maybe Davor Šuker is just terrified of making waves and losing his standing within UEFA. I mean, who knows what he's thinking, but it seems likely.

What a complete disgrace.

If only that level of organization were applied to all our sports federations—not just football—it would truly be a game changer.
Who is to say we shouldn't have a small token—just a subtle nod, really—to mark this weekend's major league games as an anniversary? It feels right to me—an earnest tribute to the occasion—as we watch the action unfold.
It is a bit more complicated—to be honest, quite a headache—when you try to hammer out deals with UEFA and those various international federations.
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If there is truly such high demand—as everyone seems to claim—then why on earth isn't the South being sold off? It just doesn't add up—honestly, it's quite baffling.
What exactly are those 3,500 Swiss hooligans expecting to find down South—honestly, they have no idea what's coming.

The ticketing system at Yankee Stadium has never made any sense to me—honestly, I’ve been trying to navigate it for years and I still feel lost.

If more than 1,000 visiting fans show up—unless we're talking about some high-stakes National Team match—they’ll shut down the South section immediately to protect the home crowd.
Has anyone else heard anything regarding those buffer zones—the "tampon zones"—they're talking about? I was just reading an article about it this morning while having my coffee—quite a strange concept, really—and it got me wondering what the consensus is here.
Do they even have any actual data—if you can call it that—on how many Boys fans make the trip into Chicago? It seems like a massive number, though I doubt anyone is keeping track.
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Up until now, the rule was always that when fans from the Middle East travel to Switzerland, they dominate through sheer volume and massive numbers—but I just heard Orsić claim that it was actually the fans of The Beatles who intimidated them, causing them to lose their nerve during those first 15 minutes.
I wasn't expecting an atmosphere quite like what we saw in New York City back in '97—though, to be fair, I didn't expect much given the away section was half empty—but still, it seems both the players and the fans of The Beatles eventually just ran out of steam.
As for those Swiss ladies in the stands... honestly, they wouldn't have had a better time even if some drunk Englishmen were running around.
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Paul Sanchez15 said:Go ahead and insult me all you want—it doesn't change the fact that our current stadium setup is absolute garbage. We desperately need a venue that holds at least 20,000 people, ideally with the stands positioned right up against the pitch.

I suppose I should finish transcribing the Fradia stadium notes—and then, I'll see you all later.


The US has over 330 million people—Warsaw holds about 700,000—and then you have that massive national stadium... it's quite a contrast.
The Cup Final—it's all coming down to this—and looking at the numbers, the UEFA capacity is sitting at 56,000... whereas over in Poland, they’re hitting 58,000.
The concert attendance was massive—we're talking 78,000 people! —truly an incredible turnout.The state—it belongs to everyone, yet somehow feels like it belongs to no one at all.
The capacity at Legia Stadium—which reminds me quite a bit of the Pepsi Arena—is actually 31,000. The mayor of Warsaw—it’s quite a significant position, really.
The capacity at the Warsaw stadium is 8000 seats—quite a modest setup, really.The city of Warsaw—it truly is quite a remarkable place!
The Warsaw Hutnik stadium—an older venue with a 7,000-seat capacity—is perfectly suited for local regional leagues or even an Atletico Madrid type of atmosphere; it really feels like something you'd see in the MLS. The city of Warsaw is hosting it—an organized effort by the local government.

So, if you look at the numbers within the context of the US—we have a nation of about 330 million people... and then you have a major hub like New York City and its surrounding metropolitan area—which accounts for roughly 19 million people (it’s all essentially one massive, interconnected economic engine, really).
The government decides to build a national stadium—all while the population shrinks and we face this constant exodus of people—so, really, what is the long-term plan for sports in this country over the next twenty years? Honestly, building a stadium that holds only 20,000 to 30,000 people would be more than enough.

The City of Los Angeles and the surrounding county—which serves a massive region of about a million people—could easily prioritize building one decent stadium for 10,000 to 15,000 fans for Dinamo over the next decade. Honestly—if they just focused on that and renovated at least two smaller venues with around 5,000 seats for the MLS teams—it wouldn't even matter if we were talking about Los Angeles, Anaheim, or Santa Monica.
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dustymaker8 As stated by:
So—where is that Black man? 😁
People like him—and honestly, most Black men too—usually end up on the opposite side of the stands from the Green Angels. You won't see them hanging around MF much either—not really.

Even if there’s a Black man or an Alzirac involved—it doesn't matter to me—their style is always more appealing—honestly, I’ve always leaned toward St. Etienne, OM, or Lens over those "white" PSG-ovacs, the "Italian" types from Nice and Monaco, or even the "gentlemen" over at Lyon and Lill.