Chat US: For True Americans Only, Vol. 2

quietcrane63 said:Let everything be written. If someone wants to read, they can; if they don't, that’s their business. If seeing certain things makes them uncomfortable or forces them to confront their own insecurities, then let them deal with it. That is the only way to actually resolve dissatisfaction or uncertainty, isn't it? Only those who lack any depth would want to censor everything.☕

Maybe dial back the Darwinism just a bit. If you had actually faced some real uncertainty and toughened up, you wouldn't be on this forum begging for scraps. This isn't about censoring an opinion; it’s about addressing an intention that has been repeatedly proven to be malicious. It's unconstructive and purely designed to spark conflict. That kind of behavior ruins any chance of a decent discussion, which is why he was removed—not because his views are banned, regardless of how factually wrong they might be.

Anthony Nguyen81 said:In my book, it’s perfectly normal that you aren't going to be everyone's cup of tea.

How many people don't find you likable—or me, for that matter?

Strictly speaking, when it comes to who you want in bed, the list is usually pretty selective...

I honestly don't get why people are getting so worked up about this.

Look, someone's wild theories about sexuality could easily claim we all descended from aliens.

But why on earth should you, me, or any perfectly average person be caught up in that mess?

Based on the exact criteria wanderingheron9 uses to label someone "subhuman," you're officially subhuman.

Do you actually agree with Syar on that?

Jesse Price said:Maybe take it easy on the Darwinism talk. If you actually faced some uncertainty and toughened up, you wouldn't be begging for scraps on a forum. This isn't about banning an opinion; it's about intent. His behavior has been consistently shown to be malicious, unconstructive, and purely meant to cause conflict. That kind of stuff just ruins any discussion, so he was removed for that, not because his views are forbidden—regardless of how factually wrong they might be.

I dealt with my own insecurities, though it took a while. Relatively recently, actually. I spent years being pretty much nothing, but I'm not anymore. Even so, I still think everything wanderingheron9 said holds water. It’s better to be aware of something than to be in the dark. I'd film a video of myself venting tonight, but people would probably just claim I paid a prostitute to sit there.

As for the rest of you on this forum, I couldn't care less. I'd only give a damn if you showed up at my house and did it while I stayed lying in bed.

Jesse Price said:Slow down on the Darwinism talk. If you actually had some backbone and dealt with uncertainty, you wouldn't be begging for scraps on a forum like this. This isn't about "forbidden opinions." It’s about an intention that has been repeatedly proven to be malicious—which makes it unconstructive and purely confrontational. That kind of behavior ruins any actual debate, so he was removed because of how he acts, not because his opinion is banned—regardless of how factually wrong it might be.

It’s the first step toward dehumanization, and I’ve pointed that out to wanderingheron9 more than once. The moderators saw my critique and chose not to react.

If the moderators don't mind, then why is there an issue with whether dustypilot11 or I can even formally complain? (I see people are accusing us of that). You can either protest wanderingheron9's posts in the replies or just walk away from a place like this entirely. We did both.

Talking about how beauty can be measured objectively is one thing—it's a valid topic—but you can have that discussion without resorting to dehumanizing elements.

wanderingheron9 knew exactly when he was crossing the line every single time he did it, so why the shock now?

@quietcrane63/">@@quietcrane63, I honestly don't get what "simp" means. It sounds like something positive, like being sweet, charming, or someone you'd actually want to hang out with.

A great leader leaves a trail of dust in their wake 🙂

Chloe Cooper10 said:A great leader leaves a trail of dust behind them—that’s just how it works. 🙂

Yeah, it's pretty obvious 🍿

The sheer concept of wasting massive amounts of your time on something—or someone—you can't stand is 🤣

Anthony Nguyen81 said:In my view, it’s perfectly normal that we won't all be everyone's cup of tea.
How many people actually find you, me, or anyone else unappealing?
Technically speaking, the list of people we'd invite to bed is pretty selective...

I don't see why people are getting worked up over this.
I mean, someone's theories on sexuality could be just as wild as claiming we were all created by aliens.
But why should you, me, or any perfectly ordinary person get caught up in that?

Personal preferences and attractions aren't the issue here. Neither is criticism itself; the problem arises when it's clearly intended to insult people. Personally, it doesn't bother me, but the regulars who have been posting on the US for a long time generally deal with certain struggles—sometimes temporary, sometimes long-term. So, you're essentially dealing with a filtered group that is inherently more sensitive. Given the subject matter of this subforum, physical appearance tends to play a much larger role in insecurities here than it might elsewhere. And then, of course, you have people showing up just to critique skull shapes. As far as I'm concerned, that's pure idiocy, and I won't complain when those types get banned. That's all there is to it.

Look, here I gave him a chance to actually make an argument or even troll if he wanted to—but instead, he just ran away. 🕺

Anthony Nguyen81 said:Yeah, it’s pretty obvious 🍿

The whole concept of dumping a massive amount of your time into something—or someone—that you don't even like is 🤣

So I shouldn't be wasting my time on the lies and passive-aggressiveness you're throwing my way in this thread?

Adam Lee13 said:They basically dragged you into it by pulling some strings behind the scenes and lobbying around, you know? I actually managed to dodge that whole mess entirely, even though my name was being tossed around in those circles too. I’ve been hanging out on these forums since back in 2008—this is actually my third or fourth handle at this point—and honestly, I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve begged the mods to just ban me for good, but they never once listened to my pleas.

dustypilot11 and that radical Perpetona are basically the masterminds behind this whole purge, while everyone else was just following their lead. Honestly, you can't really blame anyone else when you clearly don't know how to get organized or actually fight back; you're just playing right into their hands.

Maybe try taking advantage of that little spat between dustypilot11 and honeychild...

Honestly, asking for a permanent ban feels a bit extra, like you're just looking for drama. If you aren't feeling the vibe or don't feel like posting anymore, just walk away from the keyboard. I've definitely had my own stretches where I wouldn't touch this place for six months or even a year at a time, and life just goes on.

Kate Cox15 is dealing with way more drama over on Wikipedia than I ever did during my time there, honestly. And even though dustypilot11 doesn't exactly see eye to eye with me on half the stuff I believe, we actually get along pretty well—I really don't think she'd ever try to pull anything behind my back or waste her energy on that kind of nonsense.
It’s like these random lowlifes suddenly decided to flood the forums asking about US-er stuff all at once, just to stir the pot and try to bait the Admin into coming over to the US side to clean up the mess.
Some guy just dropped a total bait thread, and honestly, if you fell for it, that's on you.

Anthony Nguyen81 said:Honestly, wanderingheron9 wasn't even doing anything wrong, but everyone just jumped on him for no reason at all... it was just one of those massive, mindless pile-ons that happens sometimes online.

It’s not exactly a complete disaster, but calling it anything other than a total cop-out feels like a stretch, especially since they handled it with such zero backbone.

Kate Cox15 said:Hey wanderingheron9, I know most people think that whole "blue sky" thing was totally out of left field, but honestly, I wouldn't be shocked at all if they hit you with some warnings or even a ban.

Anthony Nguyen81 thinks the whole thing is just "completely pointless," but honestly, man, you’ve gotta tell me why you think there was actually any logic in expecting sanctions to hit at some point.

Thanks so much! ^^

I know I can be a bit much sometimes—honestly, I’ve definitely been known to get pretty blunt when the situation calls for it—but at the end of the day, I stand by everything I said and I don't regret a single word of it.
If the guys in America want their own little "safe space," then hey, fine, they can have it. If they’re really looking to surround themselves with thirsty simps and total pushovers, well, there's plenty of them out there waiting.

Kate Cox15 said:Honestly, I told him straight up that this whole "blackpill" persona just doesn't suit him. It’s not working for wanderingheron9 either, because if they actually stuck to their true selves, they'd just be sweet little pushovers, which would be fine.

What are you even talking about? What "nature"?
You should've grown a spine before trying to act like a simp. I've had zero respect for simps or white knights since my high school days.

Adam Lee13 said:wanderingheron9 really let me down too... he's acting totally oblivious and clearly doesn't realize who actually played him... I'm just done with them at this point...

EDIT: Don't think I don't see what you're doing, playing nice and cooling things down with everyone. If people are smart, they'll give you a taste of your own medicine. If they aren't, they'll just keep simping for the ones who dragged them here in the first place.

Look, I just don't have the energy or the patience to deal with all this petty payback and nonsense. I'd much rather focus on padding my bank account or grabbing a coffee with my boss than arguing on some random forum.
Maybe this whole split is actually a good thing in the long run.

dustypilot11 said:Oh, stop being dramatic. I wasn't lobbying to get you guys kicked out, just moved over to the incel topic.

I shouldn't have needed moving anywhere because I was sticking to my own thread, which is exactly why I started it in the first place.
They should probably just lock the whole thing down now since those guys over there haven't got a clue what they're talking about.

dustypilot11 said:Oh, come off it. I wasn't trying to get you guys banned or anything, I just thought we should move the discussion over to the incel topic.

No, you really weren't, I totally misread the situation—just like how everyone was basically egging on all those lonely losers to go spamming every single thread on the board instead of just staying in their own lane...

Kate Cox15 said:It's basically the first step toward dehumanization, which I've pointed out to wanderingheron9 several times. The moderators saw my critique and didn't do anything about it.

If the moderators aren't bothered by this, then how are dustypilot11 or I even supposed to file a formal complaint? (I see people are accusing us of that). You can either protest wanderingheron9's replies or just leave the thread entirely. We've essentially done both.

Discussing whether beauty can be objectively measured is one thing—it’s an interesting topic—but you don't need to resort to dehumanizing anyone to have that debate.

wanderingheron9 knew exactly when he was crossing the line; I guess he always did. So why the surprise now?

@quietcrane63/">@@quietcrane63, I'm not really sure what a "simp" is. It sounds like something positive, like someone who is charming or sweet and easy to hang out with.

A "simp" is one thing, but being "sympathetic" is something else entirely. Simpić carries that double meaning.

Jesse Price said:I don't think that's quite right. The guy spent a massive amount of time pushing these imaginary physical standards while tearing everyone else down—you know, making comments like "XY is subhuman, lol why are you getting mad?" all while hiding behind this thin veil of "just joking" and acting like none of it affected him. In reality, his whole writing style was just a way to project his own stuff and make other people feel insecure, especially women.

Kate Cox15 said:It’s basically the first step toward dehumanization, and I’ve pointed that out to wanderingheron9 more times than I can count. The moderators saw my criticism and just didn't do anything about it.

If the moderators aren't bothered by it, then how are dustypilot11 or I even supposed to formally complain? (since apparently, we're being accused of that now). Your only options are to argue with wanderingheron9 in the replies or just walk away from a place like this. We did both.

Look, talking about how beauty can be objectively measured is one thing—it's an interesting topic—but you shouldn't need to resort to dehumanizing people to have that discussion.

wanderingheron9 knew exactly when he was crossing the line every single time, so I don't get why everyone is acting surprised now.

Actually, these were my posts that started the whole firestorm on the US forums. I wrote this before Lata decided to start a thread specifically just for "mandibles."
Nothing I said here is factually wrong, no matter how much you want it to be, Jesse Price.

overall (skull and eye area)

ramus & masseter

teeth palate

And then this certain crowd comes at me with that condescending, arrogant attitude—people like MotherOfPearl, for instance—telling me I'm just some idiot on drugs. Well, naturally, I'm going to tear them apart right along with their recessive jawlines.
I was only brutal toward the people who were being stuck-up, acting tough, or trying to provoke me.
The biggest irony is that Lata keeps inviting me to hang out with the US crew (it's actually gotten kind of awkward to say no).🤣 If they couldn't stand looking at me on the forums, I can only imagine how they'll feel seeing me in real life.

Kate Cox15 said:If we’re going by the exact same logic wanderingheron9 uses to label people subhuman, then you’re definitely in that category too.
So, are you actually on the same page as Syar here?

Anthony Nguyen81 is clearly high IQ, so there's no way he's subhuman.

wanderingheron9 said:Wikipedia is high IQ. There's no way they're subhuman.

Does a high IQ just erase your jawline?

So, Kate Cox15 filed a complaint with the admins. Now she won't even admit whether she actually did it or not.

quietcrane63 said:So basically Kate Cox15 went running to the admins. As soon as she won't admit whether she filed a complaint or not.

If I were actually filing a formal complaint, I’d have way more to complain about than just wanderingheron9's jawline 😢.

Kate Cox15 said:If I were actually complaining, I'd have way more to say than just Sylar's jawline.😢.

Well, since you aren't complaining, you can take my dick.🙂.

Anthony Nguyen81 said:You've got a point, it's just a total waste of time 😁

I didn't actually say that, though. I mean, if we're being totally honest, I feel like this whole forum is basically a massive waste of time anyway, so I guess we're right back where we started.

George Cook31 said:That’s not what I meant. My general stance is that forums are essentially a massive waste of time—yet, here we are again.

True, but the whole idea is to have some fun.
As for this...
Getting involved with people online rarely leads to anything productive—so why bother?

Anthony Nguyen81 said:Yeah, sure, but I guess the whole point is just to have a good time.
This whole thing...
I mean, getting involved with certain people rarely ends up being anything useful, so why even bother?

Well, you seem to be having a blast with this. And honestly, I don't think you're the only one who feels that way.
If you actually wanted to get rid of someone for good, you'd probably just send them packing to some remote corner of the country or something, and then you wouldn't even bring their name up again. ☕

George Cook31 said:I suppose you find this amusing. I suspect you aren't the only one.

It isn't—endless bickering serves no purpose 😁

Furthermore, there is a distinction between working with certain people and avoiding others entirely 😁

George Cook31 said:If you truly wanted someone gone, you would just send them packing—straight to the middle of nowhere—and then simply stop talking about them. :k ava:

Some individuals are impossible to shake, even when you try to push them away 🙂

The "ignore" button remains the superior tactic.
Generally, it is best not to acknowledge them at all—just follow the Bubimir protocol...