Bad Boys

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May 13, 1990.
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I feel like I have to get this out online, just so people actually know. Honestly. This is how it is. You shouldn't mess around with others—especially people you aren't on level with—unless you're truly ready to go all the way. I've seen too many faces to make a mistake on that. I tried to let it go, I really did, but it's eating at me. Back in Detroit, when we were trying to get away from those guys... it was short and intense. There were nine of them and only six of us. Two of them turned on us, one even had a knife, and two were already bleeding. Around 130 fans started swarming us, so we ducked into this metal shipping container that happened to be right there. That was it—end of the chaos. Just a total mess. Later, when we were in some guy's house in Chicago and then down in Miami, he started telling stories about some kind of escape. I'll
stay quiet because his dad was right there, and I didn't want to make things awkward for the kid. The elders were around, too. But the story starts spreading about me like any good tale does, and it’s starting to boil over. Someone starts shouting loudly about knives, saying "always carry one" or "it'll save someone." Then they talk to their buddies, implying that if they were happy under the old regime, well, I went to war and learned how to handle a sniper rifle and a knife back in '21, and even after the war ended, it was still just scouts, killers, and hooligans. It hits me hard—I can't even control it, it’s like my temper just takes over. We were in Vegas once, and I made it clear: I'm not playing games, and I'm not some lowlife. During a private visit, people realized that these "fighters" are basically just empty shells being used. And if anyone wants to tell me that, just remember—I've seen people die, and I've handled a sniper and open combat over thirty times. When we went to Lithuania, everyone was acting like we were high society, crying and acting soft, until I finally snapped in Seattle after some mistakes were made. By the time we were in Lisbon, things had shifted. LOOK, I'M NOT SICK, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY MALICIOUS INTENTIONS TOWARD THE B.B.B. I NEVER WANTED TO TAKE OVER ANYTHING. BUT I hate seeing the team's status being neglected like this. It's what the lowlifes do. You help an older guy if he's having a rough time, you talk to him, you support him. Without history, there's no future. Don't be surprised if I act out soon. I'm one of the few left who actually helped found the BBB, gave them their name, and designed that first emblem. To me, the BBB is deeply personal. That's why I pull away sometimes—from visits, meetings, even stuff with Maamich. Man, after the divorce, the war, and some time in prison, I went through a dark period, but now I'm coming back,

Hey everyone in the area and all my neighbors out here in the territory. Hang in there,
stay safe. I've got some extra space if anyone needs a place to crash—just shoot me a message here

Can someone please help me make sense of this? What is the actual point? Why would anyone show up to an area devastated by an earthquake, decked out in sticks and wearing sunglasses or other ridiculous "fan gear," just to spout such nonsensical statements?
To me, this feels like more proof that certain groups of fans exist solely for their own sake, showing up only to chase self-promotion and give their own egos a little boost...
I even stumbled upon a photo on Facebook where a small group of about fifteen of them were parading around in front of cameras, waving those sticks around just like this.

Personally, I think this behavior is hitting a new low, especially when you read this statement:

I honestly think that the guy spreading the trut is being a complete idiot for making these kinds of accusations right now—especially since he's painting all fans with the same brush—but I also suspect he had some sort of reason for saying it in the first place... which, if you think about it, is just as sad.

Christian Miller48 said:

Can someone please explain the point of this? Why would anyone show up to an area devastated by earthquakes carrying sticks and wearing sunglasses or other "fan gear"... only to make such vague, nonsensical statements?
To me, this looks like more proof that certain fans exist solely for their own sake, heading to disaster zones strictly for self-promotion and ego trips.
I even stumbled upon a photo on Facebook where a group of about 15 of them were parading in front of cameras, sticks in hand.

Personally, I think this behavior is rock bottom. And then I read this statement:

I believe that the truth is being told by someone who is being completely foolish by making these accusations right now—accusations that smear all fans down there—but I also suspect they had some sort of reason for saying it... which is just as sad.

Hey, shepherd, did it not occur to you to actually pick up a shovel?

bluebear42 said:Hey, shepherd, did it ever cross your mind that he might actually be holding a shovel?

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Take a look at this group link below; you'll see exactly what I'm getting at... seeing as how people are showing up armed with clubs and team banners, my initial point still stands, shepherd.

EDIT: Okay, fair enough, you're probably right—the guy likely does have a shovel. But looking at that photo, there's something that looks just like a "shovel" in the frame, so I think I just jumped the gun thinking it was the exact same tool.

Just let it go. In times like these, the best approach is simply to offer whatever assistance you can and leave it at that; there will always be those moments of pure absurdity that defy any semblance of reason or logic.

The final update regarding the materials has been posted, and I want to give a quick shout-out to the guys for their incredibly swift response.👍

Some of these people look like they've never even held a shovel in their lives, let alone used one.

So, I was watching this interview from an Indianapolis local—it was probably on NBC or some other major network—around the 10-minute mark during the earthquake coverage. This guy just wouldn't stop praising the Bad Boys, even though they only showed up in Indianapolis on their own initiative. He was going on about them so much, it felt almost unreal. And then... well, predictably, the trolls show up. Right after that first segment aired, they started bashing the Bad Boys. It’s like that psychological warfare you see in history books—like how the media would spin those horrific stories during the occupation of Warsaw, only to issue a tiny little retraction the next day once the damage was already done. I guess maybe these trolls are running a similar kind of specialized campaign against all football fans, especially targeting the Bad Boys. They shouldn't try to play the "good guys" right now. Just stir the pot a little, cause some chaos, and call it a day.

What a bunch of absolute animals. Seriously, there are hundreds, even thousands of fans down there since day one, everyone dodging the cameras... and now we’re all supposed to start a war over some poser because some kid drooled through a thirteen-second statement while he was busy cleaning up his gear.

Amy Price2 said:What a bunch of animals. Seriously, hundreds upon hundreds of fans have been out there since day one, dodging the cameras, and now we’re expected to wage war over some kid’s thirteen-second soundbite given while he was just cleaning up a mess.

I don't hold that child responsible at all; I completely understand why the fans are hesitant to speak to the media, even if what the kid said wasn't inherently wrong. It feels more like management is using this moment as a way to deflect blame from themselves—much like how someone might try to dodge accountability during a business seminar by pointing fingers elsewhere. We all know how it works in this country: there's always a convenient scapegoat ready to take the fall.

But like I mentioned before, the fans reacted perfectly, and it's good to see them moving forward with productive efforts instead of getting bogged down. That kind of steady focus is the best possible response to any PR spin job.

Typical political theater. Once again, the fans have proven they’re more organized than the National Guard, local police, or any emergency response agency in the country. While everyone else was standing around, the guys from the local sports club started coordinating transport to the disaster zone just an hour after the earthquake hit. They didn't wait around for the bureaucrats to get their act together; they just threw some shovels and gloves into two SUVs and headed straight out to clear the debris. It’s like those folks from the neighboring town stepping up to help a rural community that hasn't even seen a single government official yet.

Just look at how fast the Bad Boys showed up and how much heavy lifting they did while the state was essentially paralyzed and even the phone lines were down. It’s all just political garbage. 🙂

@Christian Miller48

You are completely missing the point here. This is just a tiny, edited snippet taken from the full interview on NBC. Vlahov essentially prompted two of our local kids and one guy from the Armada to speak. All three of them were holding shovels, not sticks. That Armada guy is an older dude, maybe 25 to 30 years old, originally from Santa Cruz. The whole thing was incredibly transparent; they all introduced themselves by name, explained where they were from, and why they showed up. It was handled perfectly. They emphasized how they met and bonded while cleaning up, noting that all fans stand together during times like this and that we are all Americans first and foremost. Only that young kid at the very end uttered that specific sentence, and honestly, he wasn't wrong. Even Vlahov agreed with him. There is absolutely no reason to manufacture a controversy where none exists. And as for those people in government positions, like that dear trut, may God judge them. Perhaps true justice doesn't exist in this world, but there is divine judgment for scoundrels like that. If those officials actually knew how locals truly view the fans, they wouldn't even be having this debate. The political youth wings and these fake profiles are nothing more than a joke with their desperate attempts to smear us when you listen to the genuine words spoken right there on the field.

Christian Miller48 said:Honestly, my biggest gripe is with the people who see situations like this as a chance to parade around and promote themselves. I saw plenty of them in the stands, just like everyone else.

From what I gather from the video, the kid was just saying fans don't need the media circus or being painted as heroes. In a few days, those same news outlets will be calling them nothing but thugs again.
I checked out that photo too. If you actually read the context, the point was simple: if someone tries to burglarize a house, they might catch a fist to the face.
I think you're overthinking it.
And I won't even get into the shovel comment. It’s like you’ve never stepped foot on this planet.
If you're so concerned about "blackening names," you should have been there instead of barking on a forum that hooligans don't even bother to read.

I mean, they're just hooligans, what's the big deal if someone says it

Aaron Peterson65 said:I mean, look, they're hooligans, so what's wrong with saying it like that?

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Amy Price2 said:What a bunch of animals. Thousands of fans have been out there since day one, dodging cameras, and now we’re starting wars over some kid giving a thirteen-second quote while he was busy cleaning up his mess.

I remember one thing clearly. When the buses arrived with the hardcore supporters, the first thing they demanded was that no one film them. That’s because a mob of reporters swarmed their buses immediately. People are attacking them for wearing masks, yet they were the same people screaming at anyone who wouldn't wear them during the pandemic. Same goes for winter—people act surprised when they show up dressed for the weather instead of in shorts and t-shirts. It’s common sense.