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Mods on 'Various' are closing threads whenever they feel like it

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Participants Henry Hayes3Zachary Nguyen2rustydrifter10rustynomad12goldenranger30Anthony Perez28neonfox12rustymason92dustypilot11Terry Collins9
Henry Hayes3 Henry Hayes3 MemberOP
44 messages
joined Oct 2014
#1 ·
On this subforum

There used to be two threads here. One was for user photos where people posted pics and commented, and the other was a chat for those same users. That chat has been locked for a while now, and now both are closed...

The reason the chat got shut down is because the moderator couldn't keep up. He just closed it, saying he couldn't track everything. There were some minor arguments over stuff like trading cards and whatnot, but nothing major. Basically, he couldn't keep up with the warnings and moderation. Translation: he isn't active enough to handle these three specific threads—the photos, the comments, and the user chat.

The moderator obviously doesn't have enough time, which is fine, but it's not okay to just lock threads whenever he feels like it because he's unable to moderate a chat. I suggest assigning another moderator who actually hangs out in the chat and comment sections to handle things properly.

I’m suggesting Getufko online. He's around day and night, every single day. He's fair and rational, and he could actually moderate what the other mods can't handle in the off-topic subforum.

The topics I'm talking about are closed solely because the moderators can't manage them. Yeah, you'll get little squabbles here and there, but those are just minor provocations that need a warning, just like 99% of any other subforum on this site. Unfortunately, since the mods aren't active in these threads, they just lock them whenever they feel like it once too many pages pile up...

Here are the threads:
The chat that's been closed for weeks now

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Henry Hayes3 Henry Hayes3 MemberOP
44 messages
joined Oct 2014
#2 ·
This is the guy I’m nominating to moderate the chat, comments, and images since he’s actually active in them anyway

I bet the rest of the chat members would back him up too
Zachary Nguyen2 Zachary Nguyen2 Active Member
117 messages
joined Oct 2014
#3 ·
I agree. 🍿
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#4 ·
I'm totally on board with the moderator's call to shut this thread down. The "Various" PDF already has its own dedicated chat, and I really don't see the point in having multiple threads cluttering things up. I actually mentioned this exact thing to you in a private message back on March 2nd, so there really wasn't any need to spin up a whole new topic about it. Thanks for the suggestion regarding the moderator role, though—we'll touch base with the current moderator and the supermoderator to get everything sorted out.
Henry Hayes3 Henry Hayes3 MemberOP
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joined Oct 2014
#5 ·
rustydrifter10 said:I'm totally on board with the moderator closing that thread. The Various PDF already has its own chat thread

Wouldn't even be starting this thread if there wasn't already a chat thread over on the Various PDF

as you can see right here

all the chat threads are locked because they were active, but now there isn't a single one open. Seems like you aren't even allowed to post in them anymore—they just get shut down whenever the moderators feel like it because they can't keep up with monitoring everything... so they just lock them up at will🤣
rustynomad12 rustynomad12 Member
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joined Apr 2012
#6 ·
...if I could just jump in for a second...
Thanks for locking this thread. Seriously, I hope nobody takes this personally—I certainly don't—but honestly? It’s just gross. Even if people post photos because they want to see who they're actually talking to and put a face to the name, it’s totally nasty when a handful of lowlifes decide to throw "compliments" at people like that. Plus, they clearly don't know how private messages work, so they turn this entire discussion into their own little playground for inappropriate chatter...
Now, some "genius" out there might try to claim my comment was just a reaction to people commenting on my photos... but don't flatter yourselves...
It’s honestly just hilarious to me. Why even be part of threads where people are dissecting individuals they barely know (in most cases)—let alone people who don't know them back? It’s all just being handled by these vulgar, bottom-of-the-barrel creeps who are basically just looking for someone to exploit.

Cheers!
Zachary Nguyen2 Zachary Nguyen2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2014
#7 ·
If you don't know someone, does that mean you shouldn't even comment on their photos? 🍿
rustynomad12 rustynomad12 Member
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joined Apr 2012
#8 ·
I really don't want this to spiral into some massive off-topic mess that becomes my headache, I was honestly just pointing out the WAY a few people were being super vulgar in their comments... yeah, the ones I actually managed to get through without losing it...
but hey, maybe it’s just how they were raised or they’ve just spent too many years hanging out in these types of circles...🙂...but look, if the moderators say it's okay, then fine by me!🙂
Because of all that, I've decided I'm sitting this one out and won't be posting anything else on this.
over&out.
goldenranger30 goldenranger30 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2015
#9 ·
Getufko
Correct
Stalozen
Objective 👍
Henry Hayes3 Henry Hayes3 MemberOP
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joined Oct 2014
#10 ·
rustynomad12 said:....if I could just jump in for a second...
thanks for locking the thread. hope nobody takes this personally, because I don't... but seriously, people posting photos just to see who they're talking to and put a face to the name is fine, but it’s disgusting how a tiny group of lowlifes thinks it's okay to toss out "compliments" to those same people. plus, they don't even know how to use DMs if they actually have something to say, choosing instead to turn this whole thread into their own private trash heap...
now some "genius" might try to claim my comment was just a reaction to people commenting on my photos... but don't flatter yourselves...
it's honestly hilarious to even be part of threads where people critique folks they barely know—and in most cases, you don't even know them... especially when it's coming from these vulgar, bottom-of-the-barrel creeps who are just looking for a quick fix...

peace

I'm not complaining about the pictures. I don't give a damn about that.

The complaint is about the chat being locked because the moderators can't keep up. That chat is slammed, a few of us are constantly typing away in there and nobody else even joins. Besides, I've never even seen you in the chat, so I don't know what you're even talking about.
Anthony Perez28 Anthony Perez28 Member
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joined Mar 2015
#11 ·
Look, I hope rustynomad12 wasn't aiming that comment at me; I was actually trying to pay you a compliment. I have no idea why you deleted the photo, or why the thread was locked this time, since I wasn't even at my desk last night.

anyhow. Pobs is the most 😁 😍

As for that first photo of yours—it was honestly pretty rough. Posting a shot that blurry online makes me wonder what you were actually hoping to achieve,
besides, nobody actually insulted you; they just pointed out that the image was out of focus,
and I really don't get why you're letting those few people get to you when it's obvious they're incredibly wealthy, regardless of whether they spend their lives acting like total masochists 😬 😳 🤣
neonfox12 neonfox12 Member
17 messages
joined Nov 2014
#12 ·
Getufko online for moderator!!

Honestly, though, just changing leadership isn't the silver bullet here. Things have spiraled quite a bit because those provocateurs weren't reined in when they first started acting up. Now, we're at a point where trying to foster a healthy, normal conversation feels like an uphill battle.

If you really want my two cents, I’d send in a "heavy hitter" 😍 to prove they can actually handle the heat and maintain order in the main chat 😬
Then, if they can hold their own there, maybe we could let them host a dedicated thread in the off-topic section 🙂
Henry Hayes3 Henry Hayes3 MemberOP
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joined Oct 2014
#13 ·
Pobs is great and all, but they aren't even hanging out in the chat. We need a moderator who actually shows up to the chat, otherwise they can't moderate anything and just end up shutting things down... which totally breaks the forum rules. You can't just close a chat because someone feels like there isn't an active one on the subforum right now. It's various... rustydrifter10 claims there is one, but I don't see it anywhere
rustymason92 rustymason92 Member
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joined May 2012
#14 ·
Why on earth would Pobs need to moderate the chat? Why should anyone be forced to do that? Is it because we collectively lack any semblance of self-control and spend our time constantly bickering, providing endless material for deletion?
No, we aren't going to simply calm down. Instead, they should just assign us a moderator to keep us in line so they don't have to shut the whole chat down.

Personally, I am all for the chat, but if we could all just temper our passions a little, everything would be much simpler.

There is actually a discussion thread over on the Various PDF under "How to Clean Eyeglasses (Prescription)," if I recall the title correctly. It might not seem obvious at first glance, but Pobs informed us about it once before. So, feel free to continue the conversation there. If you have the guts. And I know you do. 😁
dustypilot11 dustypilot11 Member
33 messages
joined Nov 2010
#15 ·
😬
rustymason92 rustymason92 Member
17 messages
joined May 2012
#16 ·
I I agree with that point as well. Honestly, even after two entire threads, we still haven't covered much ground. 😁
Henry Hayes3 Henry Hayes3 MemberOP
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joined Oct 2014
#17 ·
rustymason92 said:Why would Pobs need to be on chat duty? Why would anyone have to? Just because we all collectively can't keep our mouths shut and won't stop fighting, so there's always something to delete?
No, we aren't going to just chill out. Instead, they should just dump some mod on us to control us so they don't have to shut down the chat.

I'm all for the chat, but if we just cooled it a little, things would be way easier.

There's a thread on the Various PDF, "How to clean your glasses," I think that was it. It might not seem obvious at first, but Pobs told us about it once. So go ahead, keep talking there. If you've got the guts. And I know you do. 😁

why do the other mods on the other chats also pull shifts while there's still arguing and they're super active? because that's the job...
Terry Collins9 Terry Collins9 Member
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joined Oct 2013
#18 ·
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rustymason92 said:Why would Pobs even bother moderating the chat—I mean, who actually wants that job? Is it because we all collectively lack any sense of self-control and just constanty bicker—leaving them with an endless stream of garbage to delete?
No, we aren't exactly looking to "calm down"—instead, why don't they just dump a bunch of mods on us to control everything and shut down our chats? Is that what they want?

That’s exactly the point. I was being damn tolerant—maybe too much—and now it’s reached that stage where my entire job as a moderator, or even just hanging out on the forums, has basically devolved into nothing more than lurking in the chat. Is that really what we're doing here?

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Henry Hayes3 said:Why are the mods on the other boards always pulling shifts—dealing with the constant bickering and staying glued to their screens? Because that’s actually part of the job—isn't it?

The four themes in this PDF are meant for the regulars who actually show up in the other threads—but you guys aren't exactly making an appearance elsewhere—with a few rare exceptions, anyway.

It’s not about hitting 500 posts a day—that's fine—it's the sheer vulgarity and disrespect that's the issue, isn't it? Then you have the mods digging through 300 posts just to figure out who threw the first punch.
neonfox12 neonfox12 Member
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joined Nov 2014
#19 ·
rustymason92 said:There’s a discussion thread over on the various PDF forums titled "How do you clean your prescription glasses?"—or something along those lines. At first glance, it might not seem like a heavy-hitting topic, but Terry Collins9 actually gave us some great insights on it once before. So, feel free to jump in and keep the conversation going over there. If you've got the guts, that is. And knowing this group, I know you definitely do. 😁

Is that really it? 😁
Henry Hayes3 said:Why do you see the moderators over in the other forums pulling the same shifts, dealing with the same heated arguments, and staying just as active? It’s pretty straightforward, really: because that’s exactly what the job entails. Being a moderator isn't just a title; it's a responsibility to keep the peace and stay present, regardless of which corner of the community you're standing in.

That simply isn't true. If you want a perfect example, just look at those adult chat rooms on Reddit; users there report every single little deviation they encounter, yet they only end up flagging maybe two instances a year. 🙂
Henry Hayes3 Henry Hayes3 MemberOP
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joined Oct 2014
#20 ·
Terry Collins9 said:That’s the whole point. I was being too damn tolerant, and now it’s reached the stage where my job as a moderator—and even just hanging out on this forum—has basically devolved into nothing more than scrolling through the chat...

This thread is meant for the folks actually showing up in the other discussions. You guys aren't really participating in any of them... except for a few outliers...

I don't care if someone drops 500 posts a day. The issue is the filth and the disrespect... then you've got the mods hunting down whoever started the mess three hundred posts back. Typical...

Why not just make it simple? Just report the posts where people are swearing or fighting and hand out the bans then. You don't even need to read the whole thread... just hit the reported ones and be done with it...

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