#1661 ·
Robert Cooper60 said:This forum is something else, isn't it? 🙏
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This forum is a total circus, but if you want to talk about that, take it up with Valsimot.
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This forum is a total circus, but if you want to talk about that, take it up with Valsimot.
#1662 ·
Daniel Carter9 said:🙂
This forum is a total circus, but if you want to talk about clowns, go talk to analogheron19.
Look, Professor,
feel free to tell me I haven't spent these last five damn years fighting for "our" cause. Go ahead and tell me I'm just one of those guys sitting on my hands instead of being out there on the front lines. Tell me I should look in the mirror and spit at my own reflection. Despite being incredibly careful, I’ve been to more stadiums than 90 percent of the losers here. I’ve walked into dozens of arenas risking everything—just like everyone else, let’s be real—facing bans and fines. Even with the massive debts and dealing with underage kids... apparently, I don't have the right to say what I want on an informal forum like this. Why don't you take off those damn gloves and just state clearly that I don't deserve to have an opinion? I'm speaking for the people who were actually there—the ones who were in Eindhoven or in Romania during that final UEFA match, most of whom were also in Denmark a year ago. Every single time, whether we were getting shoved away from the stadium gates or, more often, getting hauled off to some local precinct facing charges and deportation...
#1663 ·
Daniel Carter9 said:Oh, so if you don't support the guy they brought in just to give Mamić the exact same setback that landed him in jail, then you're automatically Mamić's pawn. 🤣
It’s time to 🤣
There isn't anything worth supporting over there except a broom. We aren't stopping until the last one is swept out.
You don't have to reply to me; I'm just saying it like it is. Just keep acting like nothing happened. Like everything is fixed now. Apparently, we're all supposed to back Marčinko and Svetin too. Mamić is right where he belongs, so there's no point in trying to find flaws in Svetin now.
And screw Svetin and Marčinko. Everyone who plans on going to the game this Sunday just to insult the players is basically doing their dirty work for them. They'll just feed that straight to the media to spin the narrative. Give them exactly what they want—just keep going.
Also, everyone who refuses to lift a finger against all the garbage being shoved down our throats—all those legal violations starting with the blacklists—they're the ones supporting them.
To wrap this up: ANYONE WHO HAS NEVER BEEN CHARGED BUT WAS DENIED A JOB AT THE CASH REGISTER, feel free to hit me up on PM or text me at 555-0199. If you actually have the guts—not here on a forum, not in some dive bar... but actual guts—stand up for your rights. Go to the media and take it to Court. Amen, Professor, analogheron19 said what needed to be said!
#1664 ·
What does that have anything to do with the fact that this entire forum is a total circus?
What's the point in listing out who did what or who accomplished what? I don't care about proving myself to anyone here. I'm not doing this for an audience, unless there's something else I should be worried about? You called me out for working for Mamić and now you're playing the victim—do we really want to go down this road? Just let me know, 🙂
What's the point in listing out who did what or who accomplished what? I don't care about proving myself to anyone here. I'm not doing this for an audience, unless there's something else I should be worried about? You called me out for working for Mamić and now you're playing the victim—do we really want to go down this road? Just let me know, 🙂
#1666 ·
If Locomotive actually gave a damn, they wouldn't be wasting time. People just argue endlessly about a single game while ignoring much bigger issues. Nobody is looking at the long term or thinking about the strategic moves that matter way more than singing love songs like some fan waiting on their boss to show up... It’s pretty clear 80% of people just show up for the festival atmosphere. Those who have been here through everything don't even get a say; instead, they're expected to shut up and listen to the guys who've been sitting at home doing nothing. Talk about solidarity. Respect to 👍
ps. Professor, it won't just be the Colorado Rockies circus happening here
ps. Professor, it won't just be the Colorado Rockies circus happening here
#1667 ·
analogheron19
Stop trying to play judge and decide who did what or whose fault everything is. You’re acting just like those agents from five or six years ago, using this forum as a way to settle scores with everyone you've been dodging since you stepped away. You’ve had countless chances to speak up and face people, but you always find an excuse to stay out of sight.
This isn't the first time you've used these subtle, shady insults to call people on our side mercenaries, essentially feeding lies to supporters and anyone else who isn't in the loop.
You have zero authority to act like that. There are people from your own generation who gave much more, showed real character, and took much bigger hits without coming here to play the victim or pretend they're heroes.
If you want to start counting merits, start with how you all began tearing apart the stands and setting up random organizations. You poisoned the atmosphere and passed that toxicity down to the kids, who are now in their twenties having to deal with all your mess—both your own and the paid kind. Look at the state of the Club and the stadium you left behind, where fans now feel like strangers.
For five years, you've manipulated this forum and stirred up anxiety among people who don't know any better, simply because you know nobody is going to debate you HERE or air this dirty laundry in public.
#1668 ·
Daniel Carter9 said:What does that have to do with the fact that this entire forum is a total circus?
What's the point in listing out who did what, who accomplished what, or who grinded through what? Honestly, I don't give a damn about proving myself to anyone here. It’s not about seeking approval from an audience—is there actually a problem with something I said? You called me out, claiming I’m working for Mamić here, and now you're playing the victim. You want to keep going? Just say the word, 🙂
everyone, not just you, who will distract from Mamić's criminal activity by acting in ways that suggest his corruption is somehow a better option than "our way," ultimately hurting the Club and the group directly and indirectly to serve his interests.
Me, playing the victim? I've been exercising extreme caution for nearly four years straight. Despite that, everywhere I can, I try to get in, I try to show up, and I’m not asking anyone to disown their principles or back down from anything. I'm going to keep giving it my all to get through the gates whenever possible. I seriously hope everyone else (especially those who actually have the means) tries to do the same. I hope they don't let defeatism take over because of me or people like me, but instead do everything they can to get in—on Sunday, on Wednesday, next weekend, the one after that... and I hope you’ll do the same so we can stand shoulder to shoulder during every attempt.
To pick up where you left off:
You're talking about this circus. Isn't this forum basically the same thing we're fighting for out there? A place where we democratically share our views, point out mistakes, and offer suggestions we think are useful. Aren't we fighting for democracy within the Club? Because if so, you're trying to abolish it right here. As you can see, neither you nor anyone else with similar views is being stopped from expressing an opinion, as long as you aren't personally attacking someone (aside from the scum in management and their paid lackeys). Isn't that just a blatant double standard?
You started with the idea that only those who have "done something" or "suffered enough" are allowed to speak... and then you tossed that argument aside when it didn't suit you anymore.
And as for the "audience"? I assume you mean the people who haven't "earned" the right to have an opinion or go to the stadium? Go ahead, make a list of those who are worthy. Create a registry of the elite few who are the only ones allowed to speak their minds or the only ones deemed worthy of attending games and cheering for whatever they want... so everyone else knows whether they made the cut. Because if they aren't on that list... well, they shouldn't bother showing up here, at the fan rallies, or even trying to buy a ticket. They should just forget about going to games forever.
And yeah, just like most of the people who tried to get into games in Europe, I'm still on a blacklist. I can't get a ticket. And as a veeeeery big victim of injustice, I beg everyone to show me some solidarity: don't even bother trying to get into the stadium. Instead, come down to the Club and grab a beer so I can put some cash in my pocket to fix up the apartment that Mamić bought for me anyway...
#1669 ·
Honestly, it feels like I'm talking to a brick wall here; nothing ever actually gets resolved on this forum.
#1670 ·
Kyle Torres6 said:claiming Lokomotiva is just noise is nonsense... people spend forever arguing over one single game while ignoring way bigger issues. Nobody looks at the long-term plan or thinks about the actual moves we need more than singing love songs like some fanboy waiting on his boss to show up... It feels like 80% of the crowd is just there for the party, and those who have been here since day one don't get a say in how things work—they should just listen to the guys who stayed home and actually thought about this. Talk about solidarity. Nice job 👍
ps. Daniel Carter9, it won't just be the Denver Nuggets circus happening here
...and you, along with all the younger fans... drop that ego trip about being "there every single time." Because tomorrow, most of you won't be. If you're only showing up to rub it in someone's face, then you don't belong here.
#1671 ·
Melissa Palmer said:Just don't start playing judge and jury regarding who did what or whose fault everything is. It’s the same thing those agents did five or six years ago. You’re just using this forum as a tool to settle scores with everyone you’ve been dodging ever since you stepped out of the spotlight. You had a hundred chances to speak up and take a stand, but you always found some way to dodge being where you were actually needed.
This isn't the first time you've used these thinly veiled, shady insults to call people on our side mercenaries, all while peddling nonsense to supporters and anyone too clueless to see what's really going on.
You have zero authority to act like that. There are people from your own generation who gave way more than you ever did—people who were bigger men and tougher than you'll ever be—and they suffered much more, yet they don't come crawling here trying to play the victim or the hero.
If you’re going to sit there measuring and counting merits, then start with how you guys began tearing apart the stadium culture and setting up all those useless little associations. You poisoned the well and passed that toxicity down to the kids today, who are barely twenty and now have to deal with all your crap. Your crap, and the mercenary crap too. Look at the state of the Club you left behind and the stands where these fans ended up feeling like total strangers.
For five years, you’ve been manipulating this forum, stirring up anxiety among people who aren't even in the loop because you know damn well nobody is going to debate you HERE or air dirty laundry in front of everyone.
I’ve always voiced my opinion, everywhere. If the fact that my opinion isn't worth a damn to someone—and they choose to mock it rather than accept it—is an issue, well, that’s on them.
Which side are you even talking about? What "side" is that? The one that thinks making a massive scene right now is a good idea to distract people from the actual scum involved?
I’m calling out everyone from my generation who’s been consistently active for 25 years, showing up wherever they can and taking much harder hits. Seriously, if even one person like that shows up here, I swear to God I will leave this damn forum forever and you’ll finally be rid of me for good. Are these the "elders" whose opinions you supposedly respect so much? Yeah, they're right there under the North Stand—the exact same people you followed when they were calling me and "my crowd" Mamić's lackeys, while you were busy sucking their feet because they claimed to be the righteous ones. Is there anyone else out there? Anyone else who's been active for 25 years straight? I’m telling you, if anyone steps up, argues their case based on their actual history and what they've endured, I won't just quit this forum, I'll walk away from the stands entirely.
Go ahead. Prove your claims, and you'll have me gone for good.
#1672 ·
analogheron19 said:I have always expressed my views openly and consistently. However, there is a distinct difference between sharing an opinion and having that opinion dismissed or mocked by those who clearly find it utterly worthless.
Which side are you all actually on? Which side is this? Is it the one that thinks we need to create some massive, senseless distraction just to shift the focus away from the actual scum involved?
I invite anyone from my generation—those who have been consistently active for twenty-five years, showing up wherever they can and enduring far more than most—to step forward. If even one person like that reaches out to me, I give you my word: I will leave this damn forum forever. You will be rid of me for good. Are there any "elders" whose opinions you actually respect? You know exactly who they are—the very same people you followed when they were attacking me and my group as being part of Mamić's circle, while you were busy sucking up to them as if they were the moral authority. Are there any other veterans here who have been active for twenty-five years straight? I repeat, let someone speak up, justify their dedication and their struggles, and I won't just quit this forum, I'll quit the stands entirely.
Go ahead, prove my claims wrong, and you'll have dealt with me once and for all.
T* was right when he told me earlier, and he's telling you now too: this isn't the place for these kinds of debates. Personally, I respect you as a fan, but please don't claim there aren't people from your generation who have stayed loyal. Gr*** and the others have always been here.
#1673 ·
Missed weddings and laundry done at all the wrong times.
Anyway, everyone’s got their own little theory on who’s worth a damn and who isn't, but the second someone suggests the loudspeaker is going to make the call, half of you suddenly act like that was your idea all along, while the rest just dig their heels in. You shouldn't have even opened your mouths. For those of us who honestly couldn't care less what the megaphone says—myself included—there are plenty of other stands without the noise, or we can just head home and watch the game on TV.
There's really no point in grinding your gears or acting like it's the Middle Ages just because of some announcement you can't control anyway.
Just try to be smart enough not to walk straight into traps that are already set, and we'll be fine. Don't go thinking Sunday's game is going to fundamentally shift the landscape of everything; if you expect a miracle, you're just setting yourselves up for a headache.
Anyway, everyone’s got their own little theory on who’s worth a damn and who isn't, but the second someone suggests the loudspeaker is going to make the call, half of you suddenly act like that was your idea all along, while the rest just dig their heels in. You shouldn't have even opened your mouths. For those of us who honestly couldn't care less what the megaphone says—myself included—there are plenty of other stands without the noise, or we can just head home and watch the game on TV.
There's really no point in grinding your gears or acting like it's the Middle Ages just because of some announcement you can't control anyway.
Just try to be smart enough not to walk straight into traps that are already set, and we'll be fine. Don't go thinking Sunday's game is going to fundamentally shift the landscape of everything; if you expect a miracle, you're just setting yourselves up for a headache.
#1674 ·
Come on, Young people, let’s get back to singing and dancing instead of getting bogged down in these mindless arguments.
Cheers to the Jar crew!!!
Cheers to the Jar crew!!!
#1675 ·
You guys have managed to tear each other apart so much that nobody trusts anyone anymore.😢
I mean, honestly, after everything you've been through over the last few years, it’s only natural that everyone's feeling pretty skeptical.
And yeah, every single word spoken now carries some heavy weight...
I mean, honestly, after everything you've been through over the last few years, it’s only natural that everyone's feeling pretty skeptical.
And yeah, every single word spoken now carries some heavy weight...
#1676 ·
Scott Jones9 said:T* was actually spot on when Henry Grant51 told me this before, and honestly, it applies to you too—this isn't the place for these kinds of arguments. I respect you personally as a fan, but don't sit there claiming there aren't people from your generation who have been here since day one. Gr*** and the rest of the crew have always been around.
Take it to private messages so we don't turn this thread into a total mess and keep cranking up the tension.
p.s. This forum is a joke. If you don't have the patience to read what others are saying without losing your mind, then just stay away and stop acting out for no reason. If you think everyone posting here is talking nonsense or that their opinions are worthless, then why the hell did you even bother registering just to act like a know-it-all?
If this is some kind of circus, don't join the show. It’s entirely up to you whether you get involved or not; nobody is forcing your hand. Goodnight, everyone. From tomorrow on, let's all give it everything we've got. Whether it's Sunday or any other match, home or away, in the MLS or in Europe, let's show up in force. Let's not give an inch to the haters or the mercenaries. Amen.
#1677 ·
Melissa Palmer said:...and you, all you Young people... Get that ego trip out of your heads. Stop acting like "we've always been here." Because tomorrow, plenty of you won't be. If you're only sticking around just to rub it in someone else's face, then you don't belong here.
I’m intentionally avoiding using "we" so there's no misunderstanding here.🙂
I'm not trying to lecture anyone. I'm just sick of seeing people try to undermine those I actually support on this garbage site...
#1678 ·
analogheron19 said:...and at every single upcoming match, whether we're playing at home or on the road, in MLS or in European competition, there'll be more and more of them..
🤔
You probably meant "there will be," not "there'll be"
#1679 ·
hiddenwalker30 said:so I'm out today hanging with friends, waiting in line for tickets, when this huge group of 100 (plus) Chelsea FC fans shows up... you think they joined the end of the line? nope, just cut right past us to the front
we're stuck here like idiots while they just shove their way through...
there was even this woman with a toddler waiting in this heat, but clearly, those guys couldn't care less. You can really tell how they were raised👍
Look, lady, we were on the guestlist so we went straight in—the PR team handled that for us. Sorry if that rubbed you the wrong way. Sending good vibes your way. 🙂
#1680 ·
Henry Grant51 said:Let the Young ones enjoy their moment. It’s time for music and dancing, not these mindless debates.
Cheers to the Jar crew!!!
With the atmosphere in the stands being what it is—especially in the left corner—there's nothing to fear.🙏 🤣
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