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For those of you who aren't based in New York City:

https://www.ticketmaster.com/gnkdinamo/tickets...iredbe&p=t&t=9

Tickets should be available for purchase online starting tomorrow morning, if everything goes according to plan...

Hey everyone, I haven't caught up on all the recent posts yet, so I'm not sure who actually started this thread
But seriously, can we do anything about these blacklists? Me and a huge chunk of my crew are being blocked from buying tickets. We’re talking hundreds of us being left out, and that is a massive number to just ignore

If what they're doing is illegal, shouldn't we be putting pressure on Management, hitting up the media, and everything else to get this cleared up by Sunday?? We need to go all out and tackle this together!

Anonymous said:Hey everyone, I haven't really caught up on the previous posts yet, so I'm not entirely sure who kicked this thread off,
but seriously, can we actually do something about these blacklists? Me and a huge chunk of my crew are being blocked from buying tickets, and we're talking about losing hundreds of fans here—that is a massive number to just ignore.

If this kind of thing is illegal, shouldn't we be putting some serious pressure on Management, the media, and everyone else to get this cleared up by Sunday?? We need to hit them with everything we've got!

Did you seriously just drop in from Mars or something?

Daniel Carter9 said:What does that have to do with the fact that this entire forum is a total circus?
What’s the point in listing out who did what, who accomplished what, or who grinded through what? Honestly, I don't give a damn. I'm not here trying to prove anything to anyone. It's not about seeking approval from the crowd. Is there a problem? You called me out, claiming I'm working for Mamić here, and now you're playing the victim. Should we keep going? Just say the word, 🙂
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Go right ahead, Professor. You've got my full support.

Kyle Torres6 said:If the local kids were just making noise... they could go screw themselves. People spend forever debating a single match while ignoring much more critical issues. Nobody is looking at the big picture or thinking about the actual maneuvers that matter way more than singing love songs like some groupie waiting for their boss to show up. It’s obvious that 80% of the crowd is just there for the festival atmosphere. Those who have actually been present through it all don't have any right to lecture us on how things should be; instead, they should listen to those of us who have been doing the real work behind the scenes. The level of solidarity here is pathetic. Hats off to you, 👍

P.S. Professor, this isn't just going to be some famous circus in Colorado

Anyone who refuses to listen is going to regret it. Now we've got some damn amateurs trying to act smart when they haven't been anywhere. Enough of that. We know exactly who was there and who wasn't. As for those who weren't? STICK THEM ON A RACK. I don't care what excuses or justifications they have.

Look, I’m not trying to be a preacher here 🙂, but I honestly don't get why everyone keeps having these same old arguments just to make life harder for yourselves, especially during these crappy times when there's already enough chaos flying around us. At the end of the day, for those folks living up North, how any of this plays out doesn't change their reality, so all this back-and-forth is just useless noise, pretty much like that last thread we had going.

Words of wisdom
(15:18) An angry man stirs up trouble, but a patient one settles the argument.
(16:7) When the ways of man are pleasing to Yahweh, He reconciles His enemies with Him.
(17:1) Better is a mouthful of dry bread with peace than a house full of feast meat with constant fighting. (14) Stirring up a fight is like letting a flood loose: so before the storm breaks, just get out of the way! (19) Sin loves anyone who chases after a quarrel, and anyone who acts too proud is just asking for a downfall.

Look, I haven't logged in here in nearly a year, and honestly, I think this forum is mostly just people talking nonsense. But even through all the chatter, you can tell which groups are actually serious. Let's get down to business: we made an announcement, so I don't see what the confusion is about!

The convoy leaves from Kvatrić at 4:30 PM!

A)When you go to buy gear, make sure to bring your ID. If you're picking stuff up for friends, I can
text a photo to your phone—just make sure it's clear enough to read. I can also scan passports, IDs, birth certificates, etc...

B)Everyone is reading this forum, so don't act shocked when the management starts breathing down your necks because of those outsiders. We barely have any locals left in the squad, and if you start wearing shirts that say "We're all on Mamić's side," they'll tear you apart even harder. You all know how hard we've fought and everything we've sacrificed, so cut the crap. We’re doing this for the next generation, not for some personal ego trips. Cheering has always been organized, and it's going to stay that way. We aren't going there to insult the players; we're going to claim what has been ours for a long time. We are the Cleveland Guardians and we need them to feel and understand that!

C)It looks like most of the blacklisted folks are stuck. If you couldn't make it for legitimate reasons and don't have a legal ban—like just forgetting your ID—get in touch with Petrinjac, since he offered to help.

And finally, for heaven's sake, things are about to get loud.........

Sean Chase said:Professor, go right ahead. You have my full support.

I honestly feel bad for even typing this. It’s not because I think I’m wrong or that I don't stand by what I said, but because this discussion has devolved into a place where people should be talking about their own contributions. Anyone who knows me knows how much I despise ego trips. I could probably talk about that with Valsimot too, since I'm always there to help him when most people couldn't care less about his ideas. But enough about me.
Getting back to the topic of insults and disrespect—I spoke up because it's obvious how many people are just waiting for Monday after the game to start acting like experts. All because six Portuguese men and three Frenchmen are going to post messages of support for Mamić before the match. If anyone thought this story was about Mamić being locked up, they might as well have stayed home all along. I mean, what actually changes if Mamić is released? Does that mean we stop rooting for Pinta and Sigali?
It's shocking how many people feel the need to throw their hands up and claim victory, especially when he's only been in jail for five days. Was it the Ultras' statement about Mamić being held for six months after Kuzma and shake Zula were at the Waterfront that triggered this? Now we have people celebrating and cheering for the Cleveland Guardians as if it's a victory for our cause. How can that be a victory when the rest of the club is in such a state? What exactly are we supposed to be supporting on the field? We might as well support Pinta, Bruno Marić, or even the Atlanta Braves; there's no difference. Are we supposed to make the mistake of stopping halfway through and celebrating, just like how the doors were left open for a new Mamić after Canjuga?
There is much more to say, but this isn't the place for it. I wasn't really invited to discuss the BBB on this forum anyway. Since this is where the BBB write, I'll leave it at that.

It looks like those tech geniuses over at Athens haven't completely forgotten about us yet. 👍
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...44&oe=561B5C07

Yeah, right... Who cares about those random outsiders? I’d much rather have 200 real ones than 3,000 nobodies showing up. And then, for some reason nobody can wrap their head around, maybe 500 people show up to a protest and suddenly everyone’s wondering where the actual public support is. 🤦

I have zero desire to cheer for those cowards on the field, and I sure as hell won't be celebrating their goals. I'll trash the lot of them and then get back to supporting the true Cleveland Guardians... We'll actually do more good by building up the positive vibes like we do at futsal than spending 90 minutes just hurling insults at Mamić. But honestly, who gives a damn what I think? I'm not one of those 200 real fans, so my opinion doesn't carry any weight anyway. 👍

Daniel Carter9 said:...I mean, if anyone actually thought this whole thing ends just because Mamić is behind bars, they might as well have skipped all the games. Seriously, what happens when Mamić walks free? Are we suddenly supposed to stop rooting for Pinta and Sigali or what?

It’s honestly shocking how many people feel the need to throw their hands up and scream about being "winners." This guy has been in jail for exactly five days. Maybe the trigger was that statement from the Ultras saying Mamić gets six months after Kuzma and shake Zula were out at the Waterfront? Now we have people celebrating and cheering for the Cleveland Guardians like this is some grand victory in our struggle.

How can anyone call this a victory while the same old crowd is still running the club? It makes zero sense to me. And what exactly are we supposed to be supporting on the field? We might as well support Pinta, Bruno Marić, and the Atlanta Braves for all the difference it makes. Are we really expected to make the same mistake again—to stop halfway through, celebrate, and then leave the door wide open for a "new" Mamić just like what happened after Canjuga?
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SIGNED AND DELIVERED!

This whole argument started because people are talking about celebrating goals and acting like everything is positive. I don't know any sane person who could possibly act that way right now.

As long as this moral sludge is running the Cleveland Guardians, this isn't OUR team.

Until there is an Election, this isn't OUR team.

As long as they are all playing for a boss who's sitting in a cell because of the shameless looting of OUR club, I don't know how any sane person could feel a shred of genuine emotion after a goal is scored, knowing it just sends more people straight to Remetinec. It's disgusting!

WE WANT ELECTIONS, WE WANT FREEDOM!!! NO SURRENDER, NO COMPROMISE!

THIEVES, GET OUT OF THE GUARDIANS!!! TRAITORS, GET OUT OF AMERICA!!!

Just my two cents...

Mamić has his own private army behind him... everywhere he needs to be—in politics, city hall, the assembly, the police, the media... and none of that would have been enough if he hadn't managed to infiltrate the "Bad Boys" and sow division there, too. "Mamić, you aren't the Cleveland Guardians, we are." Who exactly is "we"? Everyone running through their veins with blue blood? Some people have sacrificed a lot over the years, and honestly, respect to them. But let’s not claim ownership of the Cleveland Guardians based on merit, and let's stop the fighting of "Mamić, you aren't the club, we are." We are the club... but who are "we" now? A retiree out West, a family from the rural East, some suit in a tie in a big city, an unemployed worker, those carrying membership cards in their pockets, the apolitical ones, those who stood by the old guard back in '82, those who fought the political machine in the 90s, those who grew up resisting Mamić, and even the little kids who are five or six years old singing "Praise be to God"... and even those who haven't been born yet but are already rooting for the Cleveland Guardians. How are we supposed to measure who loves the team more? We can't. It doesn't matter. Let everyone keep that devotion in their own heart. The only thing that matters is that the club is here, and it belongs to all of us—to anyone who loves it, as you know "without further ado."
...today, after all these years, the most important thing is unity. Division is what made Mamić successful. We can't let him gloat, and we can't let some other Mamić rise up near us. These types of power plays in Remetinec are just the beginning if we ever want to get back the club we once had. If we want that, we do it together. If we don't act as one, we'll just tear ourselves apart individually and let the hyenas feast on our weaknesses. One front, support the team, down with the thieves...

I will be cheering out of pure spite and defiance. After all the injustices, the rigged lists, the bans, and the constant harassment we've endured over the years, I don't care one bit about what happens on the field... but I am going to show those cowards in management and this pathetic crowd in the city exactly what it feels like when the North starts to thunder.

Anonymous said:So, I haven't logged on here in nearly a year, and honestly, I usually think this forum is just one big rambling session... but even in all that chatter, you can still sense which cliques are forming. Let’s get down to brass tacks, though—we made an announcement, and I don't see why things aren't clearer!

The parade starts at 4:30 PM near the Waterfront!

A)When you head out to buy tickets, make sure to bring your driver's licenses. If you’re picking up stuff for buddies, I can
text a photo straight to your phone—just make sure it's clear enough to read. I can even scan passports, IDs, birth certificates... anything you need...

B)Everyone is reading this thread, so don't act shocked when security starts cracking down on those outsiders. We barely have any locals left in our ranks anyway, and if people start wearing "We're all on Mamić's side" shirts, they’re just going to get chewed out even harder. You all know exactly what we've been fighting for and everything we've sacrificed... so enough with the nonsense. We’re doing this for the next generation, not for some personal ego trips. Cheering has always been organized, and it’s staying that way. We aren't there to insult the players; we're there to claim what was rightfully ours a long time ago. We are the Cleveland Guardians and they better feel it and understand that!

C)It looks like most of the blacklists have been cleared. If someone couldn't make it for legitimate reasons—and doesn't have a legal ban, mind you—but maybe just forgot their ID or something, reach out to Petrinjac because he specifically offered to help.

And finally, for heaven's sake, it's time to make some noise!.........

Let's wrap this discussion up.

I've spent a lifetime in the stands, and even more years living this life. And believe me, I would love nothing more than to tear into all those guys—the players, the Management... they certainly deserve it.

BUT

I don't really have any right to dictate how or what we cheer.
The only ones who have that right are the guys who have swallowed so much crap over the years—the repression, the harassment, losing jobs, giving up their private lives—all for a righteous cause.
And so, I'm going to follow the lead of those organized cheering sections led by true heroes, the ones who sacrificed everything for their ideals.

And one more thing... 200 die-hards will always be there. Is that enough?
We need a crowd. And a crowd only comes when there's a positive vibe.
No matter how "right" your logic is, you won't draw a crowd by hurling insults.

The atmosphere is going to stay exactly the same as it was back when we were storming the east stands at the stadium—I honestly don't see why anything should change. The situation is practically identical to how it’s always been, except now you can finally start to sense a shift in the air. The guys who have been carrying EVERYTHING on their backs this whole time, fighting the good fight so effectively, are going to keep doing exactly that, and they’ll probably do it even better now that there's this fresh energy and support coming from all those people who have been asleep, inactive, or just coasting on the sidelines. Thank God the song selection isn't decided by some random people on the 🙂
forum.

You can actually just grab them online too
www.ticketmaster.com

While you guys are busy sitting here talking trash and spreading nothing but negativity, the lines for tickets just keep getting longer: https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b4&oe=561195BB 😁 😁 😁

What a hell of a weekend: the big shots end up behind bars, Captain Dragan Delta Airlines is out there with the Ultras in Miami while we’re stuck in the stands 🙂

Zoran + Zdravko = Sakoman Slavko!

driftingotter47 said:While you guys are busy talking trash and spreading nothing but negativity, look at the ticket lines getting longer by the minute: https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b4&oe=561195BB 😁 😁 😁

That’s exactly it, and it’s only Thursday. These are the people we’ve been screaming for years—this is the massive, broad support base we desperately need.
It’s that sleepy city we’re always complaining about, but clearly, that initial spark to get everyone moving was the arrest. Let me repeat: yeah, the fight isn't over, but things are finally starting to move in the direction we’ve been praying for. Nothing changes overnight, and it’ll take a long time before those guys are kicked to the curb for good, BUT FOR THEM, IT’S A ONE-WAY STREET from here on out. They’re going to find themselves with fewer and fewer followers and supporters every single day. It should be crystal clear to everyone that the criminals, the players, and the whole workforce aren't going to walk away until the very last second; only idiots expect that right now. We're talking about people who literally became millionaires overnight because of them. But back to those ticket lines: we can't just ignore this. We can't brush these people off just because they haven't been standing by our side for the last few years. Instead, we need to lean in even harder and motivate all those undecided folks to step up.

analogheron19 said:That’s it, and Thursday hasn't even hit yet. These are the exact people we've been screaming for for years—that massive, solid foundation we desperately need.
And look, this is that sleepy town we’re always complaining about, but clearly, the only thing that actually woke them up was the arrest. I'll say it again: yeah, the fight isn't over, but things are finally moving in the direction we’ve been praying for. Nothing changes overnight, and it'll be a long road before they finally pack up and head out, BUT FOR THEM, THIS IS A ONE-WAY STREET from here on out. They're going to find themselves with fewer and fewer followers and zero backup. Everyone needs to realize that the criminals, the players, and the workers aren't going to just walk away until the bitter end; only idiots expect that right now. These are the people who literally turned them into millionaires overnight. Anyway, back to the ticket lines: we can't just write these people off. We can't ditch everyone just because they weren't standing by our side these last few years. If anything, we need to push them harder and get all those fence-sitters to finally step up.

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