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2014 British Grand Prix at Silverstone (July 6)

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neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#201 ·
graniteharbor502 said:Go ahead and whine or insult whoever you want—the fact remains that Vettel achieved things your favorite driver will never touch. 😍

Alonso actually did something nobody else could—he knocked the legendary Michael Schumacher right off his throne! 👋

That 2006 title, won while Schumacher was still at the absolute peak of his game... it's worth way more than those four "four-time" frauds combined... 👋
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#202 ·
Bernie Ecclestone and the FIA basically kicked Schumacher and Ferrari off their throne just because F1's viewership numbers started tanking. ☕
Just like they took down Vettel and Red Bull, they’re going to take down Hamilton, Rosberg, and Mercedes too. Same story. ☕

Go ahead and lie to yourself all you want. 😁
Michael Diaz4 Michael Diaz4 Active Member
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#203 ·
But he’s just struggling to find his rhythm at Ferrari, and honestly, Vettel absolutely laid into him. He got schooled so badly that those bruises are probably going to haunt him for the rest of his career...
steelmaker83 steelmaker83 Active Member
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#204 ·
stormybadger8 said:Bernie Ecclestone and the FIA dethroned Michael Schumacher and Ferrari because F1 viewership plummeted. ☕
Just like they took down Sebastian Vettel and Red Bull, and just like they'll eventually take down Lewis Hamilton, Nico Rosberg, and Mercedes. ☕

Go ahead and delude yourself all you want. 😁


The ones who put them up there are the same ones who'll tear them down.
steelmaker83 steelmaker83 Active Member
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#205 ·
graniteharbor502 said:You can whine and throw insults all you want, but Vettel achieved things your favorite driver never will. 😍


Exactly. Alonso was never the weaker driver compared to his teammate. Vettel is on the right track...
Michael Diaz4 Michael Diaz4 Active Member
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#206 ·
Jacob White49 said:That split second during the race where Alonso's rear wing picks up track debris, leaving him stuck in a partially open DRS position, which makes navigating those "corners" a nightmare!

http://wtf1.co.uk/alonso-insane-save-silverstone/

😂 What exactly is going on with the diffuser here...? Some guy in the title claimed there were issues, but I don't see anything... It looks like the people in the comments on this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izqrsfcJMAc video were actually right—it was just Alonso peeling film off his visor... You haven't provided any proof for your claim, other than just blindly accepting everything said by a frustrated Alonso, who I'm sure will be feeling this sting for a long time to come...
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#207 ·
graniteharbor502 said:Look, you can sit there and whine all you want, honestly, just keep on barking if it makes you feel better, but at the end of the day, Vettel achieved things that your little idol is never, ever going to touch. 😍

Could you please explain what on earth your little rant has to do with the United Kingdom?

I don't see a link anywhere. 🤷
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#208 ·
stormybadger8 said:It looks like Bernie and the FIA finally knocked Schumacher and Ferrari off their pedestal—all because F1 viewership started tanking... ☕

2006 was nothing but a straight-up dogfight between Alonso and Michael Schumacher—say whatever you want about it... 👋

Just like how they took down both Vettel and Red Bull...

I mean, honestly—who’s actually blaming Renault for building a total disaster of an engine? They had more than enough time to get their act together—and from what I've read, they were actually the ones pushing for these turbo engines to be introduced in the first place. So, whose fault is it that they couldn't just put together a decent unit that could actually go toe-to-toe with Mercedes...
Terry Carter2 Terry Carter2 Active Member
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#209 ·
Jacob White49, let's talk about absolute nonsense!
😁
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 VeteranOP
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#210 ·
stormybadger8 Asks:
It seems like Bernie Ecclestone and the FIA finally managed to knock Michael Schumacher and Ferrari off their throne, all because the F1 viewership numbers started sliding. Is that what it takes? A drop in ratings? ☕
Just like they took down Vettel and Red Bull, they’ll take down Hamilton, Rosberg, and Mercedes too. It's inevitable, isn't it? ☕


How many different cars, engines, and sets of technical regulations did Michael Schumacher have to master to rack up all those titles and wins? It makes you wonder.

With this season's drastic shift in technical regulations, Lewis Hamilton has managed to snag a win and is now firmly on track to secure his second title.

Vettel? Even Adrian Newey couldn't save him now.

And in this race...
While Vettel struggles to hold onto fifth or sixth place after starting on the front row—fighting a Ferrari that feels half-broken—Ricciardo is simultaneously climbing his way onto the podium. Faster and younger. Is this the reality of the race?
Jacob White49 Jacob White49 Member
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#211 ·
Michael Diaz4 said:😂 What exactly are we looking at regarding the diffuser here...? Some guy named Fun mentioned having issues in the title, but there’s absolutely nothing to see... It looks like the people commenting on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izqrsfcJMAc were actually right—it was just Alonso peeling the film off his visor... You haven't provided a shred of evidence for your claim, other than blindly accepting everything said by a frustrated Alonso, who I suspect will be feeling this sting for a long, long time...

The diffuser!? Who, when, why.......

Man, you clearly have no idea what DRS is versus a diffuser—what are you even doing on this forum? Was Sunday really the first time in your life you've ever watched Formula 1!?
The video clearly shows how the car behaves through the high-speed Beckets-Magetts section when the DRS flap gets stuck and fails to close completely.
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 VeteranOP
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#212 ·
Jacob White49 said:With the diffuser!? Who, when, why.......

Just some random fan wrote this.

😂
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#213 ·
neonfox65 said:Fernando Alonso has achieved something that absolutely no one else dared to attempt—he has finally unseated the legendary Michael Schumacher from his throne! 👋

That championship title from 2006, back when Michael Schumacher was still reigning at the absolute peak of his powers and in such incredible form, feels far more meaningful to me than all four of those subsequent four-time titles that felt like nothing more than organized deceptions, don't you think? 👋

So, if we consider the moment when Alonso managed to outmaneuver Schumacher—which really feels like a spiritual revisit to the days of Mika Hakkinen—one might argue that such a feat is nothing short of legendary, is it not? Yet, somehow, when Vettel comes along and absolutely dominates that very same legend for five consecutive seasons, racking up four world titles in the process, suddenly the narrative shifts and everyone acts as if it’s just common business, almost trivial. I find myself wondering, where exactly did all the logic vanish to in that transition? 😂

steelmaker83 said:To be perfectly honest, one has to wonder if we are truly paying enough attention to the statistics, because isn't it quite clear that Alonso has never once been the weaker driver when compared to his own teammate? He consistently holds his own, regardless of the machinery provided. Meanwhile, looking at the trajectory of Vettel, it seems he is firmly on the right path toward greatness...

I was thinking along these lines:
Is there anything more disheartening than watching the fundamental spirit of respect vanish from a sport we all hold so dear? I find myself sitting here, reflecting on the recent developments, and I cannot help but wonder if we are witnessing a slow erosion of the decorum that once defined the pinnacle of racing. When one considers the history of this sport, isn't it true that the rivalry was always meant to be a battle of wits and skill, rather than a series of petty grievances and lack of regard for one's peers? It seems to me that the tension currently brewing between certain drivers has crossed a line from healthy competition into something far more unsettling. How can we expect the next generation to uphold the traditions of greatness when the current icons seem so intent on undermining one another? It brings to mind those classic eras where even the fiercest competitors shared a quiet, unspoken understanding of mutual dignity. Is that concept truly dead in the modern era, or are we simply blinded by the spectacle of the conflict? One has to ask oneself: at what point does the pursuit of victory become an excuse for losing one's integrity?

It isn’t exactly groundbreaking to see Vettel trailing behind his teammate during the season, is it? One could argue that this pattern is becoming somewhat predictable. If one truly wishes to understand why the Spanish driver consistently finds himself outscored by his own teammate, perhaps we ought to look back at the 2004 season for perspective. It all comes down to the Trulli factor, doesn't it?
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#214 ·
graniteharbor502 said:So, if Alonso beats Schumacher—which we all know he did—it's some huge deal, but then when Vettel just breezes past him for five straight seasons (grabbing four titles along the way), suddenly it's nothing? Where's the logic in that... 😂

First off, it wasn't Vettel who outplayed him—back in 2010, his own team basically let him down at the last race, and by 2012, his car was nowhere near as good as Vettel's. If they were actually going wheel-to-wheel like back in 2006, sure, I might say Vettel had the edge, but he didn't. From 2009 onwards, Vettel was just sitting in a much faster car than Alonso...
Terry Carter2 Terry Carter2 Active Member
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#215 ·
Get back on topic or find another thread to haunt!
😁
Michael Diaz4 Michael Diaz4 Active Member
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#216 ·
Jacob White49 said:With the diffuser!? Who, when, why.......

Man, you clearly have no idea what DRS is or how a diffuser works. What are you even doing here on this forum? Was Sunday really the first time you've ever watched Formula 1 in your life!?
The video clearly shows what happens to the car through the high-speed section at Beckets-Magetts when the DRS flap gets stuck and fails to close completely.

That’s just a reaction to the nonsense I was quoting and the nonsense some fan is commenting on the video... What is actually happening there...? Kid, I honestly think this is only your second season following the sport, which explains why you're acting so hyperactive right now...😁 What can you actually see in that video...? Alonso messed up a few times, and that's it. These claims that the car was malfunctioning are totally baseless. What are you even basing that on...? You can see how much faster he is on the straights, yet Vettel is catching him both before and inside the corners... Vettel showed who the boss is, and Alonso is definitely going to remember this one for the rest of his life, especially after all that whining and complaining. "He's driving off track, trying everything... Oh boy, punish him, he's faster than me in the turns..." 😍
steelmaker83 steelmaker83 Active Member
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#217 ·
Jeez, what the hell is she on about now?

!!!!!!!
Drew Bennett68 Drew Bennett68 Regular
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#218 ·
😁

Bottom line is, bottom line.

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