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2014 Monaco Grand Prix Recap & Discussion

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stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#41 ·
Emily Patel64 said:How do you always manage to write these condescending posts just to defend your little cronies? I'm not buying it. 🤣🤣

Honestly, they should be paying you a premium in Sebastian Vettel's camp if they actually realized how much you hold the line and refuse to back down here. 🙂😁

You think I should reach out and ask for a job? That way they’d have their own Lewis Hamilton. 😬🤣
swifttiger75 swifttiger75 Active Member
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#42 ·
swifttiger75 said:I'm with you on Nico Rosberg—wouldn't be shocked if he grabs pole, but as for the win? I can only wish him luck. I also see the noble Jenson Button, that patient opportunist, finishing pretty high up there.

This whole Mercedes drama feels staged, honestly. It just screams dominance and untapped car potential. Everything became obvious after that first McLaren safety car caused the simultaneous pit stops; everything else was just theater for the octane circus.

Daniel Ricciardo, Nico Hulkenberg, Felipe Massa, Kevin Magnussen, Esteban Ocon, Jenson Button and Jenson Button 🙏 Hats off to the young Frenchman—congrats on those first points.
I caught the Maestro on screen twice, both times clipping the chicane perfectly coming out of the tunnel. A bit too brief to make a real impression, though.

Sebastian Vettel is finally getting back what he’s been sowing over the last few seasons—I guess the universe eventually balances things out. Kimi had a great first half, but unfortunately, he got lost in a string of bad luck later on.

All in all, a solid weekend in Monaco. But Montreal is going to shuffle the deck again and maybe finally put some things in their rightful place.
steelmaker83 steelmaker83 Active Member
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#43 ·
gentlecobra23 said:Kimi's race pace was perfectly fine until the SC hit...

If he hadn't been swallowed up by the Marussia, we wouldn't have seen that circus toward the end of the race. He actually finished strong considering he had to pit three times...

Perfectly fine? Sure. But the real question is whether it was good enough. Compared to his teammate, Kimi had built up a lead of exactly 7 seconds by lap 16—which, given what happened next, isn't exactly the luckiest timing, but he earned it with a solid start. After lap 16, leading up to the SC, Fernando Alonso managed to shrink that gap down to 3.3 seconds.

It's obvious that Alonso let the gap widen just to preserve his tires, hoping to make a move in the lap or two following Kimi's pit stop (since Kimi would naturally pit first). Daniel Ricciardo played it exactly the same way. He let the gap reach a maximum of 4 seconds at lap 16, then started chipping away at it so that by the time the SC came out, he was right on his tail.

Looking at the data, it’s clear that besides a decent start and restart, the Spaniard didn't have particularly impressive pace—I'd go as far as saying it was poor. It’s highly questionable whether he could have even held off those two. He might have held off Alonso, but holding off the Australian would have been a stretch.

At the same time, I get why Kimi's fans saw yesterday's performance as a drop of rain in the desert, because everything he's shown so far has been nothing but a desert. However, looking at the facts, I wouldn't be celebrating if I were a fan. Kimi clearly hasn't mastered the Ferrari yet.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#44 ·
Do you even realize how ridiculous you sound?
If Fernando Alonso had just 3 or 4 seconds of breathing room, he would’ve cruised right past Daniel Ricciardo and Kimi Räikkönen like they weren't even there.🤣
Get real. Passing anyone at the Monaco Grand Prix is a nightmare, even for a Mercedes-Benz, let alone a Ferrari.

Besides, if Alonso actually had the pace to overtake Ricciardo, he wouldn't have finished behind him in the first place...
And the idea that he’d somehow jump Kimi, who was already ahead of Ricciardo? That’s a logic leap only you could make.🤣
ruggedfox28 ruggedfox28 Regular
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#45 ·
stormybadger8 said:Do you even realize how much nonsense you're spewing?...
If Fernando Alonso had just 3 or 4 seconds back, he would've snatched it. He’d have pulled off some absolute magic to fly right past Daniel Ricciardo and Kimi Räikkönen...🤣
Give it a rest... overtaking in Monaco is a nightmare even for Mercedes-Benz, let alone Ferrari...

If Fernando Alonso had actually been able to overtake Daniel Ricciardo, he probably would've finished ahead of him instead of trailing behind...
And how would that even count as prestige for Kimi when he was just ahead of Ricciardo? That’s probably only clear to you...🤣

Oh, please... you can tell he's just talking nonsense. If you look at any decent media outlet online or listen to the common sense on the forums, everyone agrees that Obrvan had a pretty mediocre race. He somehow managed to scrape together a solid 4th place finish, which is exactly what he's done plenty of times before in his career—just scavenging around the track and playing the opportunist whenever someone else crashes or screws up...

He’s so blinded by it... maybe even more than his own mom, which explains why he’d write this...

steelmaker83 said:I get why Kimi Räikkönen fans are treating yesterday’s performance like a literal oasis in the desert. After everything he's put up lately—which, let's be honest, has been a total wasteland—it feels like a win... but even with all that, I wouldn't be celebrating too hard if I were pulling for him. It’s pretty obvious Kimi still hasn't quite figured out how to tame that Ferrari...

Honestly, this just shows how desperate the Obrvan crowd really is... They’re busy accusing all the Kimi Räikkönen fans of grasping at straws like they're stuck in a desert, but they don't even realize they're doing the exact same thing with Obrvan himself. They're obsessing over these little head-to-head battles that are completely irrelevant to the actual championship standings on a global scale... but hey, I guess it's the only bit of joy they've got left. Because let's be real, they don't have anything else to celebrate... 🤣
Jamie Hall Jamie Hall Newcomer
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#46 ·
ruggedfox28 said:just let him be... he’s clearly talking nonsense. If you look at any decent American media outlets or just listen to anyone with actual sense on the forums, the consensus is clear: Obrvan drove a subpar race, yet still managed to scrape a solid 4th place. It's the same old story for him—just scavenging the track and opportunistically capitalizing on other people's misfortunes (or let's be honest, their mistakes)

He's blinded by bias... maybe even more than his mother, which explains this post.

..and that really highlights the shallow nature of Obrvan's fans. They accuse all the Kimi Räikkönen fans of grasping at straws, failing to realize they are doing the exact same thing with Obrvan. They cling to internal team battles that are completely irrelevant to the global championship standings, but for them, it's the only source of joy left... because, frankly, there isn't much else to celebrate.🤣

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dustycyclist19 dustycyclist19 Member
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#47 ·
ruggedfox28 said:just let him be... you can tell he's just rambling nonsense. if you look at any decent US media outlets or listen to anyone with actual eyes on the forums, everyone agrees that Obrvan had a sub-par race and still managed to scavenge a solid 4th place, which is basically his whole career strategy—just lurking on the track and opportunistically capitalizing on other people's bad luck (or let's be honest, their mistakes)..

he's clearly blinded by it... maybe even more than his own mother, hence this post.

..and honestly, it perfectly captures how superficial Obrvan's fans really are. they love to mock all the Kimi Räikkönen fans for grasping at straws like they're in a desert, while completely failing to realize they're doing the exact same thing with Obrvan—clinging to internal team battles that are totally irrelevant to the broader championship standings, but since it's the only hit of dopamine they get, they take it.because realistically, they don't have anything else to actually celebrate... 🤣

Watching a genius like that drive was a total blast in its own way, so don't you worry about what brings us joy.☕
Kate Wilson8 Kate Wilson8 Newcomer
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#48 ·
dustycyclist19 said:Honestly, just having the chance to watch a genius like that behind the wheel was pure bliss. So, don't you worry about our level of enjoyment.☕


I guess there’s just something about that handmade touch... maybe it's just me.☕
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#49 ·
Tyler Ross56 said:Pure handmade bliss...☕

🤣🤣🤣

dustycyclist19 said:Watching a genius like that drive was pure satisfaction in itself, so don't you worry about our little pleasures.☕

Where on earth were you watching him? 🤣
You could have seen Fernando Alonso in the race:
A. When Kimi Räikkönen overtook him at the start.
B. When he went off track and missed both chicanes.

🤣
Nobody was as invisible in the race as him. Honestly, even the Marussia and Caterham cars were actually overtaking and making moves...
The only one without a single real overtake in the whole race was the Maestro...
Same goes for Daniel Ricciardo, Lewis Hamilton, and Nico Rosberg—except Daniel Ricciardo and Lewis Hamilton at least tried to attack someone, while Rosberg just led from start to finish anyway.🤣
wiredscout14 wiredscout14 Member
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#50 ·
steelmaker83 said:It’s fine, I suppose... if you consider being "good enough." Compared to his teammate, Kimi, he managed to build a gap of exactly 7 seconds by lap 16—which, given what happened next, wasn't exactly the luckiest timing, but he earned it with a solid start. After lap 16, right until the McLaren came out, he shaved that down to 3.3.

So, it’s obvious. Alonso let the gap slip to preserve his tires, hoping to make a move right after Kimi pitted (since Kimi would naturally go first). Daniel Ricciardo did the exact same thing. He let the gap hit a maximum of 4 seconds on lap 16, then started chipping away at it just in time to be on his tail when the McLaren emerged.

From all this, it's clear that despite a decent start and restart, the Spaniard didn't have particularly impressive pace. Actually, I'd call it poor. It's highly questionable whether he could have even held those two ahead of him. Maybe Alonso could, but I doubt the Australian...

At the same time, I get why Kimi's fans saw yesterday's performance as a drop of rain in the desert. Everything he's shown so far has been a total desert. Though, considering everything mentioned, I wouldn't be too thrilled if I were a fan of his. Kimi clearly hasn't mastered the Ferrari yet...

Essentially, the lesson here is simple: if Alonso is falling behind, he's letting people pass; if he's catching up, he's actually faster. 🙏 Because apparently, others don't grasp the concept of "letting someone through." 🙏
Who can honestly sit here and read this nonsense anymore? 🤷

A car built to suit his style, the better half of the garage, political maneuvering, and other people's misfortune. And yet, by the fifth race of the season, he's already slower. Maestro... 🙏
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#51 ·
Man, you totally missed how subtle the Maestro was... he was so unremarkable he wasn't even worth mentioning.

But here's the interesting part: Hamilton just showed everyone what his true colors are...
Honestly, he’s an even bigger crybaby than Alonso. It’s actually mind-blowing to watch him whine at a team that handed him a beast of a car—a car where finishing 3rd in any race this season would be a miracle—yet if he doesn't walk away with the title, he acts like it's the ultimate embarrassment...
The bottom line is he only demands "equal status" within the team when he's sitting in the No. 1 spot. The second he somehow ends up as No. 2, suddenly he needs equality again so he can be No. 1 and dictate the strategy himself.🤣

He's talked such absolute nonsense over the last few days that I’d honestly love to see Rosberg take the title, even if it happens by some ridiculous fluke.
ruggedfox28 ruggedfox28 Regular
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#52 ·
stormybadger8 said:Man, that Maestro was so subtle you didn't even notice him... basically invisible, definitely not worth mentioning.

But here’s the real kicker, Hamilton just showed us his true colors...
Honestly, he's a bigger crybaby than Alonso. It's actually wild seeing him whine at a team that handed him a beast of a car—a car where finishing top 3 is basically a miracle any other week. If he doesn't snag the title with this, it'll be an absolute embarrassment...
The biggest takeaway, though, is that he only wants "equal status" within the team when he's officially No. 1. But the second he somehow ends up as No. 2, suddenly everyone needs to be equal again so he can act like the No. 1 and call the shots on strategy.🤣

He's been talking so much trash lately that I'd honestly love to see Rosberg take the title, even if it's by some total fluke...

okay.. you just officially canceled Beer indefinitely 🤣
jadeseal7 jadeseal7 Active Member
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#53 ·
Honestly, looking at Fernando Alonso's last two races, I think he just got a massive helping of luck and some favorable political maneuvering—that’s really the only reason he managed to edge out Kimi Räikkönen... and if his fans on here are choosing to ignore the fact that he didn't actually pull anything special off in Monaco, well, that's their prerogative, I suppose.

It seems highly probable that he's moving on from Scuderia Ferrari; I just don't see any real drive left in him, though—if you ask me—who could really blame him?
Peter Carter6 Peter Carter6 Newcomer
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#54 ·
steelmaker83 said:It’s pretty obvious Kimi Räikkönen hasn't quite mastered the Ferrari yet.

It'll be a wild ride once he finally gets the hang of it, which he definitely will...
We'll just have to wait and see how things play out in Montreal...
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#55 ·
Kimi Räikkönen totally mastered that car—he's only losing to someone who's actually better than him. ☕ 👋
Jamie Hall Jamie Hall Newcomer
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#56 ·
neonfox65 said:Kimi mastered the car; he was only beaten by someone better. ☕ 👋

Either you don't know how to read, or nothing useful is actually reaching your brain. 🤣
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#57 ·
stormybadger8 said:It’s obviously Maldonado's fault, why are you even asking?🤣
They pushed Pastor into the pit lane and then someone just parked right where he was supposed to be (probably Gutierrez), so everyone else just lined up behind him...

I mean, seriously, for God's sake, do they not have anyone in the pits to tell them where to go, especially since that's exactly where they were sitting before the warm-up lap?🤷 🙄
steelmaker83 steelmaker83 Active Member
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#58 ·
stormybadger8 said:Do you even realize how ridiculous you sound?
If Alonso had just three or four seconds less to make up, he would've pulled off something magical by slicing right past Ricciardo and Kimi Räikkönen.🤣
Give it a rest. Overtaking in Monaco is a nightmare even for a team like Mercedes, let alone Ferrari.

If Fernando Alonso had actually been able to outpace Daniel Ricciardo, he probably would've finished ahead of him instead of trailing behind.
Only you would find some kind of prestige in Kimi Räikkönen finishing ahead of Daniel Ricciardo.🤣

Aside from demonstrating a fundamental lack of sports knowledge, you’re also incredibly rushed and clearly struggling to grasp the point. And no, this isn't an insult—it's just a direct response to your take on my comment.

Look, buddy, I made my point pretty clear in my previous post—maybe you should give it another read? I specifically stated that Kimi Räikkönen wouldn't have overtaken him on track; the only way that switch happens is through the standard pit stop cycles, which never occurred because of the Safety Car. I also pointed out that while it would be a tough sell for Fernando Alonso, it's actually a much more likely scenario for Daniel Ricciardo.

Here’s how I see it. Facts. What I said was a fact, not some made-up story. Honestly, it’s hilarious how Kimi Räikkönen's fans immediately lost their minds—just like you did. It was predictably impulsive.

Look, man, that doesn't mean any of this is actually going to happen in reality. It just highlights the obvious fact that both Daniel Ricciardo and Fernando Alonso managed to pull themselves away tactically. They created that gap between themselves and Kimi Räikkönen, which then allowed them to start closing in on him at the exact same time and pace.

I didn't bother digging deep into exactly where Kimi Räikkönen would have ended up on track after his pit stop, nor did I stress over whether those two actually had the pace to close that gap once they were out. I was simply stating that it would be incredibly easy for them to do so. It was obvious Kimi wasn't looking good, and it was clear those two were catching him with zero effort.

And then I have to sit through all that nonsense about how Kimi Räikkönen had good pace, LOL.
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#59 ·
Fernando had his usual game plan where he stays out on track longer, and if he realizes overtaking is basically impossible—which, let’s be real, is always the case in Monaco—he just builds up enough of a gap between himself and the guy ahead so he can dive in during the stint and just absolutely hammer it. It wouldn't be the first time he's snatched a position right through the pit lane, either.
steelmaker83 steelmaker83 Active Member
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#60 ·
ruggedfox28 said:Just let him talk. It’s obvious he’s just rambling nonsense. If you look at any actual news outlet online or listen to the sensible voices on the forums, the consensus is clear: Obrvan drove a mediocre race and still managed to scrape a solid 4th place finish. Honestly, that's been his bread and butter throughout his career—just scavenging around the track and opportunistically capitalizing on other people's misfortunes. Or, if we're being honest, just taking advantage of everyone else's mistakes.

Can someone drop a link for these claims? I’d just like to make sure we aren't just listening to forum rambling here.
Sure, we could go with something like this:The race weekend at the Monaco Grand Prix Circuit was a masterclass in precision and tactical execution. It wasn’t just about raw speed; it was about managing the chaos that defines street racing. Looking at the results, it’s clear that the strategy played a massive role in separating the frontrunners from the pack. While some drivers struggled to find their rhythm amidst the tight corners and unforgiving barriers, others seemed to navigate the tension with ease. It was a high-stakes game of chess on asphalt. One wrong move or a slightly mistimed pit stop, and the entire weekend could have unraveled. But for those who stayed composed, the reward was significant. It’s the kind of performance that reinforces why this circuit remains one of the most prestigious stops on the Formula 1 calendar. Some drivers thrive under this specific type of pressure, while others simply crumble. That distinction is what separates the legends from the rest of the grid.

ruggedfox28 said:He’s clearly blinded by it... maybe even more than he is by his mom, which would explain why he’s posting this nonsense.

Honestly, this just perfectly illustrates the sheer desperation of Obrvan's fanbase. They love to lecture all of Kimi Räikkönen's fans about grasping at straws like they're searching for water in a desert, yet they fail to see that they’re doing the exact same thing with Obrvan himself. They are clinging to an internal team duel that is completely irrelevant and marginal in the grand scheme of the championship. But hey, I guess it's their only source of joy right now, because let's be real—they don't have a single other reason to celebrate. 🤣

You completely missed the mark there, buddy.

My take here is strictly objective and grounded in the data. Look, the situation isn't exactly ideal—nibbling away at four, five, or six positions isn't exactly winning championships—but it is what it is. Personally, I don't see the issue. There can only be one champion, and while Fernando Alonso certainly isn't going to take that title, he’s definitely not going to endure any humiliation either (he'll likely just demolish his teammate). Your guy, on the other hand, might end up walking away with neither.

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