2014 Monaco Grand Prix Recap & Discussion

wiredscout14 said:So, here’s the takeaway from the race: if Alonso is falling behind, he's just letting people pass. If he's catching up, it's because he's actually faster. Simple as that. 🙏 Clearly, some people here don't even know what the term "releasing" means. 🙏
Honestly, who actually has the patience to read through this nonsense? 🤷

The car was built entirely around his driving style, which basically made it half the garage's problem. Add some questionable political maneuvering and everyone else's misfortune into the mix, and you get this mess. It’s been slower since the fifth race of the season. Maestro. 🙏

Look, friend, it’s all right there in black and white. Pure facts. Kimi Räikkönen hasn't shown a single shred of evidence on track this season that he can actually outpace Fernando Alonso. Not once. And the moment he managed to build a (completely illusory) seven-second gap, you all started jumping for joy. I get it—you’re overcompensating. I understand the nerves, and I certainly understand the impatience, but please, stop fighting these pointless battles.

Since I have a notoriously low tolerance for stupidity and sheer lack of intellect, I felt compelled to point out a specific fact here. I'll allow myself the margin of error to suggest that Kimi Räikkönen might have intentionally let those two snatch his advantage during critical moments of the race for tactical reasons. 🤣

Peter Carter6 said:It’ll be interesting when he finally pulls it off. And he will, eventually...
Let's see how things shake out in Montreal then...

Maybe he will, maybe he won't. Personally, I'm hoping he does just to see if there's actually any substance there, because what we've seen so far hasn't been nearly enough.

Jason Campbell70 said:The opening is so good that I lose any desire to write once I see the misery in that first post.

Consider it done.

ruggedfox28 said:just let him be... you can see he's just rambling nonsense. Any decent media outlet you read online, or even the sensible voices on the forums, all agree that Obrvan drove an underwhelming race, yet somehow walked away with a solid 4th place. It’s the same story we've seen throughout his career—just scavenging the track and opportunistically capitalizing on other people's misfortune (or if we're being honest, other people's mistakes).

He's blinded by it... maybe even more than his own mother, which explains this post.

..and that really shows the true nature of Obrvan's fans. They accuse all of Kimi Räikkönen's fans of grasping at straws like they're finding drops of water in a desert, yet they fail to realize they are doing the exact same thing with Obrvan. They cling to internal team battles that are completely irrelevant and marginal in the grand scheme of the championship, but for them, it's the only source of joy left... because honestly, they don't have anything else to celebrate.🤣

1. Nico Rosberg 122
2. Lewis Hamilton 118
3. Fernando Alonso 61
4. Daniel Ricciardo 54
5. Nico Hülkenberg 47
6. Sebastian Vettel 45
7. Valtteri Bottas 34
8. Jenson Button 31
9. Kevin Magnussen 21
10. Sergio Pérez 20

But don't let it get to you.

stormybadger8 said:Where on earth were you watching? 🤣
You could have seen what happened to Fernando Alonso during the race:
A. When Kimi overtook him right at the start
B. When he went off track and missed both chicanes

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For God's sake, where is the subtlety? It's the truth 🤣 I see you've updated your style in the meantime 🤣

stormybadger8 said:He completely overlooked the subtle Maestro... his performance was so unremarkable it wasn't even worth mentioning.

But there's another point that's quite fascinating: Hamilton just showed us exactly what kind of character he has...
By all accounts, he’s an even bigger crybaby than Alonso. Honestly, it's unbelievable how he can tear into a team that handed him such a beast of a car—a car where finishing 3rd in any race this season would be a miracle, let alone winning the title. Failing to secure the championship after all that would be an absolute embarrassment...
Most importantly, though, he's proven that he only demands "equal status" within the team when he's clearly the No. 1. But the moment he finds himself somehow relegated to No. 2, suddenly everyone needs to be equal again so he can remain the No. 1 and dictate the strategy.🤣

He's been acting so out of line over the last few days that I'd actually love to see Rosberg take the title, even if it happens through some messy technicality...

He's become "The Whiner."
As this season unfolds, certain things about Hamilton's past are starting to come into focus. Specifically—that 2008 season.

He's my favorite driver. Exceptionally attractive, incredibly fast, a massive talent... But if he keeps this up, people won't remember the talent; they'll just remember the whining. And he really doesn't deserve that.
The Neymar formula of Formula 1.

Man, I swear there’s gotta be a video of someone yelling "C'mon guys" floating around somewhere on the internet 😁

Am I really the only one who thinks Lewis Hamilton might actually be right here? Overtaking at the Monaco Grand Prix Circuit is basically impossible, especially when everyone is running identical machinery. To me, Nico Rosberg seems to have that same relentless German mentality that Michael Schumacher had—where the end goal justifies whatever it takes. You only have to look at his facial expression during the national anthem to see it.

jadecanyon14 said:Am I seriously the only one sitting here thinking maybe Lewis Hamilton actually has a point?! Passing in Monaco is basically a myth, especially when they're driving identical cars. Honestly, I feel like Nico has that same ruthless German streak you saw in Michael Schumacher—you know, the whole "the end justifies the means" vibe. Just look at his face during the anthem!

If you ask me, Roschoke didn't spin out on purpose.

But hey, who really knows what kind of drama is going down behind closed doors when they're arguing in their private rooms? All we can do is sit here and speculate.

Honestly, I'd much rather they had grabbed him instead of Kimi Räikkönen when they were looking at seats for Ferrari.

jadecanyon14 said:Am I really the only one who thinks Lewis Hamilton might actually be right here?!

He isn't.

I get why he acted that way after Q3. I get that he was screwed through no fault of his own.

But... it’s easy to be a Monday morning quarterback and say, "We should have pitted, Scuderia Ferrari would've come out anyway."
What if they hadn't? What if the pit window didn't open up?

Just imagine the embarrassment.
The whole world would have been laughing at them.

And risk going for it when they were sitting on a safe P2 and another 18 points?

Especially during a race weekend where the other driver was clearly faster?
Faster in qualifying, and faster in the race.

steelmaker83 said:.... your Then again, maybe neither one will happen at all...

And which one would that be...? mine...? 🤷

darkmarlin16 said:Seriously, does nobody in their pit box actually tell them where to go? They should've just stayed right where they were before the warm-up lap... 🤷🙄

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2tB1i03FCw

darkmarlin16 said:

It would have been better if they had picked him over Kimi Räikkönen at Ferrari.

As a fan of Kimi Räikkönen, I’d prefer that too, because this Ferrari is... well, let's just say I don't want to get banned for describing it. Both Alonso and Kimi proved they are elite drivers on this grid; I'd even go as far as saying they are the top two.

@steelmaker83/">@@steelmaker83, getting a bit sensitive, aren't we? You were somewhat objective at first, but once you saw the answers, you decided Kimi hasn't shown anything or deserved anything.
Pick a side already. 😂

The Last man to win back-to-back Monaco Grands Prix while leading fra was Ayrton Senna back in 1990 and 1991. With this latest win, Nico Rosberg means Mercedes have now won more races—10 total—since their comeback in 2010 than they ever managed during their initial stint in Formula 1 back in the mid-50s.

I think that pretty much explains why Lewis had some grit in his eye during those final laps... or rather, excuse me, let's just say something flew into his eye and distracted him right during that heroic finish.

Jason Campbell70 said:If there’s any track that favors Nico Rosberg over Lewis Hamilton, it’s Monaco.

He consistently nails qualifying there, and it's where he's pulled off some of his best career results.
Last season, he went from pole straight to a win; the year before, he climbed from third in qualifying to second in the race.

Over the last few seasons, Rosberg has regularly outpaced Hamilton in Monaco qualifying... so I’m giving him a slight edge this time. Given that the weekend looks set to be dry and sunny—Rosberg is my pick for pole.

As for the winner? Well, that will likely be decided by the guy in the silver SLS—or rather, the reasons for his exit. Will it be Pastor Maldonado, Romain Grosjean, Kamui Kobayashi, Jean-Éric Vergne... or just some random chaos on the track?

Man, what a forum regular you are! 🙏🙏🙏

It’s probably smarter for Lewis Hamilton to just cut his losses here

That’s about it for the race...

And hey, bravo to Bianchi—man, Kimi Räikkönen, what a legend...

Yeah, after God knows how many years, I actually managed to fall asleep during a live Formula 1 broadcast.

steelmaker83 said:Maybe he will, maybe he won't; I personally hope he does, just so we can finally determine if there is any substance left in him, because what he has displayed up to this point has been far too little.

Far too little? If one evaluates the situation solely by the points accumulated, then yes, I suppose I must agree. However, if one takes the actual events on the track into account, don't the circumstances appear to be quite different from that narrow perspective?
At the Australian Grand Prix, based on the observations provided by Pat Fry, I certainly wouldn't say he underperformed significantly: "On both the F14 Ts, we had some electrical problems, especially on Kimi’s car, which meant he couldn’t use all the car’s potential."
During the Malaysian Grand Prix, in the second lap, Kimi found himself positioned right behind Alonso, only for Magnussen to puncture his tire. Kimi somehow managed to limp his way back to the pits, though he suffered damage to the car's floor in the process.
Then there was the Bahrain Grand Prix, where an unnecessary pit call forced a tire change only seven laps into the race—using the harder compound for that specific race—with tires that were already worn. Despite that, he still managed to finish just behind Alonso. Does that imply that Alonso also showed far too little during that particular race?
Regarding the Chinese Grand Prix, if we choose to overlook the technical issues with the car that resulted in him completing only an installation lap in P1, would we really claim he underperformed there?
At the Spanish Grand Prix, Kimi Räikkönen was faster than Alonso in qualifying (and Ted Kravitz even highlighted that document where the FIA warned Ferrari to align the Spanish driver's power unit with the regulations), and he remained ahead of him in the race as well, all while the team failed to show twice through their strategy which driver they were favoring. Furthermore, despite being on a less favorable strategy, Kimi finished just one spot behind Alonso. Does this mean Alonso also showed far too little in that race?
And finally, at the Monaco Grand Prix, is it even necessary to mention what happened aside from the order following the first—and for most drivers, the only—round of pit stops? What actually occurs is this: Max Chilton, driving behind the safety car mid-corner, lunges forward and punctures Kimi's tire:


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graniteharbor502 said:Too little, too soon? If you’re just looking at the points tally, sure, I get the argument. But if you actually watch what went down on the track, the whole picture changes.
Regarding the Australian Grand Prix, I wouldn't say things went terribly according to Pat Fry. He noted that both F14 cars dealt with electrical issues—particularly Kimi’s car—which ultimately prevented him from tapping into its full potential.
Malaysian Grand Prix. Second lap. Kimi’s right there, tucked directly behind Alonso, when Magnussen punctures his tire. How does he even make it back to the pits? Somehow he limps in, but the floor is trashed.
Bahrain Grand Prix. A completely unnecessary pit call for a tire change after only seven laps—switching to a harder compound when they’d already used the previous set. And yet, he managed to finish right behind Fernando Alonso. Does that mean Alonso actually underperformed significantly during this race?
The Chinese Grand Prix. Let's just set aside those car issues that forced him to complete nothing more than an installation lap in P1. Should we really call that performance a failure?
Spanish Grand Prix. Kimi Räikkönen outpaced Fernando Alonso in qualifying—though Ted Kravitz did highlight that document where the FIA warned Ferrari to bring the Spanish driver's power unit into compliance with the regulations. In the race, Kimi stayed ahead, even though the team failed twice to clearly signal which driver they were favoring through their strategy. Despite being on the less optimal plan, Kimi still finished just one spot behind Alonso. Does that mean Alonso simply left too much on the table during that race?
So, we’re at the end of the Monaco Grand Prix. Should we even bother mentioning anything besides the order after that first—and for most, only—pit stop? Because things got wild. Max Chilton loses control behind the safety car right in the middle of a turn and punctures Kimi's tire. What exactly happens when chaos like that strikes?
The race was a complete mess. Just chaotic from start to finish. Can you even call it strategic racing when everything falls apart like that? It felt less like a masterclass and more like survival. A lot of noise, a lot of wasted effort. Was anyone actually prepared for this level of unpredictability? Probably not.

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MAXYM The user said:I caught a phrase on an Italian site yesterday that felt pretty spot on for Kimi: "Räikkönen, the champion of excuses." 🙏

MAXYM laid it all out a long time ago.