Singapore GP (Marina Bay Street Circuit) - 09/22/2013

Way to go, Vettel!
Since he’ll probably just cruise to the championship from here on out, at least I won't have to drag myself out of bed early to catch the next three races. 😁

stormybadger8 said:Niki Lauda actually took off his hat and bowed to Sebastian Vettel after the race today 🙏🙏🙏
The folks over at ESPN are claiming they've never seen Lauda without that damn hat on in their entire lives...

...but then again, you see him on ABC all the time (back when he was calling games with König).
And as for him praising Vettel? Please. What else would you expect from an Austrian working for a German team—just playing nice with a German driver in an Austrian outfit.

Daniel James8 said:...but he said it plenty of times on ABC (back when he was calling matches with König).
And his praise for Vettel? Please. What else would you expect from an Austrian working for a German team—kissing up to a German driver in an Austrian squad.

Besides, it’s not like Sebastian really proved anything today. I suppose those three titles were just "flukes," right? And this fourth one in a row is probably just a total coincidence too...😁

Tyler Bennett5 said:I’ll take your word for it just like I believe TBF1 when they claim the Red Bull isn't a dominant car right now.

Oh, sure, because Red Bull is *definitely* dominating right now.😁
On behalf of all the fans, I’d like to personally thank my mom, Pilatus, 4season, and the entire crew who spent years praying for a dominant Red Bull.😍

By the way, it’s nowhere near as dominant as it looks at first glance...
A huge chunk of that gap was thanks to slow Nico Rosberg, who had tire debris stuck in his front wing and ended up bottlenecking the whole pack...
If that hadn't happened, even with Ferrari's brilliant strategy and Fernando Alonso's stellar driving (giving him credit where it's due this time 🙏), who knows? The win might have actually been in jeopardy because of the Safety Car and missing the pit window...

But hey, Red Bull is totally dominant now, and they'll probably be even better.😁

stormybadger8 said:Today, after the race concluded, Niki Lauda actually took off his cap and bowed toward Sebastian Vettel. 🙏🙏🙏
The commentators over at ESPN were claiming they had never once seen Lauda without that hat on in all their lives.😲🤣
He even went as far as to suggest that Vettel deserved a fourth world title for today's performance, because, quite frankly, he claims he has never witnessed a driver execute a more flawless race than this one.😳

Furthermore, he remarked that those Ferrari fans loitering under the grandstands don't have the slightest clue what Formula 1 is actually about and are complete ignoramuses.🤣
It is quite fascinating, really, how everyone within the paddock seems to reach the same consensus regarding them being total novices who lack any fundamental understanding of the sport.🤣

Is it truly possible that the actual insiders possess more insight than the Vettel haters on this American forum?!
Of course they do! 😁

jadeseal7 said:I’ll just say this: how long have you actually been following Formula 1? Do you even realize what kind of junk car that General Motors was running back then? Alonso pulled a miracle out of thin air to win with that thing. You clearly don't know a thing about F1. Enjoy it while it lasts, because nothing stays good forever.

Calling Alonso's 2008 Singapore win a masterpiece🙄
Are you trolling Ferrari fans and Alonso supporters, or are you just some kid who doesn't know any better?

That General Motors car was garbage.🤣
The same car that put that loser Nelson Piquet on the podium?
That car🤣

Even the mediocre pay drivers currently in Formula 1 aren't nearly as bad as Nelson Piquet was.☕

Sure, Alonso has had some absolutely legendary wins, but using 2008 as his benchmark isn't an insult to him—it's just plain wrong. ☕

darkmarlin16 said:33 wins, all from the first two rows. Honestly, I don't think he ever even won from 4th place.🙏

He drove one of his better races today... yeah, right. Give me a break.👍

Now try finding a time he started below 4th and ended up ahead of Mass.😁
Catch you in a week once you've dug up that stat.😂

graniteharbor502 said:That's just a straight-up ad hominem attack. Honestly, I’d suggest the moderators take a look—it feels like this user manages to throw an insult into almost every single post they make.

Are you starting to cry now, just like your favorite driver? Someone call my mom and tell her to come deal with this guy!🤣 😢😢

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/form...ngapur-2680630 Alonso showed exactly why he’s elite—he forced Webber all the way back to the pits, while Vettel wouldn't even bother to acknowledge his own teammate.

So it’s no wonder the crowd was cheering for him while Vettel just got booed.🙏

stormybadger8 said:No matter how you slice it—even though I absolutely adore Kimi and was rooting for him tooth and nail back then—if we aren't being totally delusional about those seasons, the Ferrari was clearly the superior car, not the McLaren....

With Ferrari pulling in 9 wins and McLaren taking 8... honestly, it’s almost a dead heat. Both cars were incredibly competitive, and it was a remarkably balanced season—especially looking back at that final race.

Daniel James8 said:...but he said it on ESPN multiple times (back when he was calling games with König).
And his praise for Vettel? Please. What else would you expect from an Austrian working for a German team besides sucking up to the German driver in the Austrian squad?

Hamilton, Rosberg, Mercedes
They’re fighting for titles, but apparently, he’s just obsessed with where the Austrian stands.🤣

He went out of his way to compliment Lotus and Ferrari, then called his own team cowards because they didn't pull a single driver into the pits during the SC... definitely a little jab at Brawn.😁

David Anderson72 said:http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/form...ngapur-2680630 Alonso showed exactly how big he is—he practically dragged Webber back to the pits, while Vettel wouldn't even lift a finger to help his teammate.

So yeah, no wonder the crowd was cheering for him while Vettel just got ignored. 🙏

What, should Vettel have just pulled over on the track and put it in reverse?🤣🤣🤣

I mean, come on, do you even know where Webber was on the track versus where Vettel was?

stormybadger8 said:Now why don't you try figuring out when he actually started from behind fourth place and right behind Moss😁
I'll catch you in a week once you've finally managed to dig up that stat😂

Look, I don't spend my entire life living off Google searches like you do, so I don't really have any reason to go "digging" for data just to prove a point.

jadeseal7 said:Have you started weeping just like your favorite driver? 🤣 Someone please get this guy away from me 😢😢

Well, my absolute favorite driver has always been Kimi Raikkonen, though I find myself deeply respecting Sebastian Vettel because of the sheer level of skill he demonstrates out on the track.

jadeseal7 said:With 9 wins for Ferrari and 8 for McLaren... it's practically a dead heat, isn't it? It's almost a perfect fifty-fifty split. Both cars have proven themselves to be equally formidable, especially given how that last race unfolded.

I suppose I find myself in agreement with you on that particular point.

jadeseal7 said:9 wins for Ferrari and 8 for McLaren... basically a dead heat. Both cars were solid, especially after that last race.

Yeah? And how many of those were PP's Ferrari wins versus FL's Ferrari wins?
And let's not ignore the fact that out of McLaren's 8 wins, Lewis Hamilton snatched 6 of them—and he's easily the best single-lap driver out there alongside Sebastian Vettel.
By that logic, Kimi Räikkönen and Fernando Alonso aren't even in his league. Even Massinha, with his 6 wins that season, would be right up there with Hamilton when it comes to qualifying pace.

stormybadger8 said:Well then, how many of PP's Ferrari wins are we talking about, and how many belong to FL?
And if we really want to get into the weeds, out of those eight McLaren wins, Lewis Hamilton snatched six of them, and isn't he—aside from Sebastian Vettel—arguably the most formidable driver when it comes to pure, raw single-lap pace?
If you ask me, compared to him, Kimi Räikkönen and Fernando Alonso are playing in an entirely different league.

It really all depends on the circuit, doesn't it? There were times when Ferrari held the edge, and other times when McLaren was clearly the faster machine. I wouldn't go so far as to claim that the Ferrari from 2007 was actually superior to the McLaren.

stormybadger8 said:Lewis Hamilton, Nico Rosberg... seriously, what happened to that whole Mercedes era? What was even going on there?
They're all fighting tooth and nail for those top spots, but honestly? He couldn't care less about any of that. For him, the only thing that actually matters is what that Austrian guy is up to.🤣

Look, let's cut the noise—we can hear you just fine. You’re right that Niki Lauda was playing nice with Sebastian Vettel and Dietrich Mateschitz, but that’s just the reality of the situation. Then again, as you love to point out so often, everything looks a little different when you're looking at it through the biased lens of a die-hard fan.

graniteharbor502 said:It really depended on the track—sometimes Ferrari had the edge, sometimes it was McLaren. I wouldn't go so far as to say the Ferrari was actually better than the McLaren back in 2007.

Nothing special, but definitely wasn't a worse car.☕

graniteharbor502 said:It really just comes down to the specific track—sometimes Ferrari had the edge, and other times it was McLaren. I wouldn't go so far as to say the 2007 Ferrari was actually a superior car to the McLaren.

Honestly, their cars were pretty much neck-and-neck—it mostly just depended on how the luck of the draw fell during a particular race weekend. Now, Red Bull? They have a car that is just convincingly dominant.

A 2.2-second gap per lap on old tires... yeah, right. As if Sebastian Vettel was truly that much better than everyone else—you can't be serious.

darkmarlin16 said:I don't live on Google like you do, so I have zero need to "dig up" that info.

🙂

Btw Fernando Alonso deserved to get Mark Webber a 10-place grid penalty in Korea.
That's what friends are for, 😍
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Btw, I'm actually dying to see the footage and find out which two cars almost sent them flying...