Best offshore sportsbooks for online betting?

wiredcanyon39 said:Look, you don't even have to mark anything down. Just place a minimum of two bets on ATP or WTA matches and you're in.

I was just about to hit you back. 🙏

You still gambling?
Is DraftKings still the best move for tennis? 🤔

I’m still placing bets, but I’ve definitely moved into a much more recreational phase lately—mostly just doing it for the hell of it.

I mean, DraftKings might not be the absolute gold standard for tennis specifically, but after reading all this stuff about the marathon and some of the other odds, I figured I’d just go with DraftKings anyway since I had some spare change sitting in my account there.

Kyle Torres60 said:Yeah, seriously—in this day and age, you basically have to do everything through your phone 🤦

Man, look—do you guys even have Skype or Messenger or whatever on your computers at home?
Why on earth wouldn't a bookmaker have something similar?

I mean, what is the clerk supposed to do right before they take your cash? Just shoot a quick message over Skype or Viber to ask if they’re actually allowed to accept your slip?

Honestly, I'm just trying to wrap my head around how this would even work in reality if they reject your payout because they claim you're winning too much...

Kyle Torres60 said:I certainly agree that using the internet makes it much easier to track exactly who is taking your money and where it’s going, but I have to say your point about postal betting isn't quite right; since we are discussing domestic bookmakers, I know for a fact that those three guys have systems in place to track individual players and receive reports from the mail when someone places a wager, so your claim that there is no control simply doesn't hold water!

@Arthur Howard/">@@Arthur Howard
If you try to take any money from a bookmaker on a USTA event, they are going to block you, plain and simple—it has always been that way, and if I am being completely honest with you, I would probably block you too!😁

But what am I supposed to do if they don't even know who the players are, leading them to offer these absolutely nonsensical odds on them?🙂

Honestly, my favorite moments are when they offer over/under bets but set the margin at 18.5, only for the match to end 6-0, 6-0 (or in the worst case, someone only wins two or three games) because they clearly haven't figured out how to set a proper margin during the opening rounds of a tournament!

That is exactly where all the biggest wins were made.

Joseph Stewart38 said:Alright, so what’s the clerk supposed to do before they take your money? Send a quick Skype or Viber message to check if they're even allowed to accept your slip?...

I mean, I’m just trying to wrap my head around how this actually works in reality... like, if they reject your payout because they think you're winning too much...

Look, the employee doesn't decide whether to take your cash or not. They just tell the manager you're at the branch. Once the slip hits authorization, the guy decides based on your history whether he'll pay you out and how much...

Besides, you don't even need to be up big. You could just be playing low-level stuff constantly, or chasing lines that didn't get adjusted fast enough, and they'll still keep tabs on you for that...

I’m pretty new to the world of online sports betting. Looking through some of these threads, I’m a bit confused—why does everyone seem to be using PayPal or Venmo? When I tried using Venmo to move funds back to my bank account, they hit me with an 11.2% "Service fee." Honestly, wouldn't it just be easier and more logical to go straight from the bookmaker to a debit card?

I would like to ask for some assistance here. A few hours ago, I placed a three-leg parlay at DraftKings. To explain the situation properly, I have to mention that I wagered 300 units. Two of my legs were winners, but the third leg was a 1/2 loss, and as a result, I ended up receiving a payout of 235 units.

I am somewhat confused by this outcome.

wanderingcrane12 said:I am requesting some assistance regarding a situation I encountered. A few hours ago, I placed a three-leg parlay at DraftKings. To provide clarity on the math, I wagered a total of 300 units. Two of my selections were successful, while the third leg resulted in a void. Despite this, my total payout was calculated at 235 units.

It remains unclear to me

It is highly probable that the system treats this as if you had placed two separate tickets with stakes of 150 units each. On one ticket, both winning legs are present alongside the void selection, and on the other, they are paired with the losing leg. Consequently, you received the payout for the ticket containing the void, which is essentially 150 multiplied by the odds of the two winning legs and a multiplier of 1 for the void, totaling 235.

Anyone here actually messed around with DraftKings before?

Anthony Perez55 said:So, can anyone actually help me out with this "problem" mentioned above?

It's about the match

UCLA Bruins - Portland Thorns FC

Weird stuff—the game was scheduled for Dec 6th, but it got postponed...

And honestly, it feels like it just happened twenty minutes ago—I remember the UCLA Bruins scoring two quick ones right at the start, then me jumping on the over 3 goals in the first half around the 20th minute, only to lose it..
If I recall correctly, the final score was sitting at 3:0, too..

🤔🤔🤔

The game was called off in the 71st minute with the score at 3:0. It was 2:0 at halftime, so yeah, your bet is dead.

http://extratime.ie/newsdesk/article...o-be-replayed/

Joseph Stewart38 said:I mean, what's the clerk supposed to do before they take your cash? Just shoot a quick Skype or Viber message to see if they're even allowed to accept your slip?

I'm trying to wrap my head around how this works in the real world when they reject your payout because you're betting way too much...

In reality, it goes like this: you walk into one specific shop, place your bet, and it hits authorization, which they then decline. So, you go to a different location and they let it through. Eventually, you stop going to the first place and stick to the second one until you run into the exact same scenario. It usually depends on the sport or the league, but once they spot a pattern, you're done.

Online, obviously, there's zero chance of that—since everything is maxed out for anything over 200 bucks.

jadesailor said:Well, they probably look at it as if you played two separate slips with 150 units each. On both slips, you had those two winning legs; on one, you have this void leg, and on the other, you lost. So you won the one with the void, getting 150 * (odds of the 2 winners) * (void odds of 1) = 235.

Exactly.

wanderingcrane12 said:I am reaching out because I could really use some assistance here! A few hours ago, I placed what I thought was a three-leg parlay over at DraftKings, and I'm just completely baffled by the outcome. To give you a bit of context—and please bear with me while I explain this complex situation—I wagered 300 units on a combo where two of the legs were winners, but that third leg ended up being a half-loss at 1/2 odds, and yet, somehow, I ended up receiving a payout of only 235 units!

It simply doesn't make sense to me, does it?

Why don't you just upload a screenshot so we can all take a look and see what's actually going on?

Has anyone else run into issues with a sportsbook when trying to collect their winnings?

They (DraftKings) are claiming the match was suspicious and is currently under investigation by the authorities, so they’re refusing to pay out my bet.
If that match were actually under official investigation, wouldn't those players be barred from competing in the very next tournament? I mean, it's tennis!
To make matters even worse, they've gone ahead and locked my entire account which has over $2,600 sitting in it, all while leaving my active bets on that specific match wide open.

I am seriously considering reaching out to FINRA to sort this mess out.

The DraftKings team sent this over to my inbox, so I figured I’d put it here in case anyone needs a clear breakdown of what they're actually offering.

Our NFL parlay offer applies to the top professional leagues in the US along with the playoffs and championship games - and it now includes the Result / Both Teams to Score market in addition to The full time Result market.

You can earn a bonus of up to 100% on your returns if you place parlays on the English Premier League, Serie A, La Liga, Bundesliga or Champions League.

All you have to do is place a pre-match parlay of 3 or more selections on the moneyline or both teams to score markets combining teams in any of the above competitions and, if successful, we will add up to a 100% bonus to your returns.

With great offers, fantastic Live streaming and an extensive range of pre-game and in-game betting markets, you can be sure to get great value on all your sports betting at DraftKings.

Enjoy the game!
The DraftKings team

Score a bonus when you play 3 or more selections from the top European leagues or the Champions League!
So, if I am understanding this correctly, you actually get a boost of 5% on your total odds if you put together a 3-team parlay, right? Isn't that just wonderful?

Trebles get a 5% bonus
4-folds get a 10% bonus
5-folds get a 10% bonus
6-folds get a 20% bonus
7-folds get a 30% bonus
8-folds get a 40% bonus
9-folds get a 50% bonus
10-folds get a 60% bonus
11-folds get a 70% bonus
12-folds get an 80% bonus
13-folds get a 90% bonus
14-folds and anything higher gets a massive 100% bonus!

I'm getting the exact same thing, so I guess I might actually end up playing some soccer after all these years 😁

wiredcanyon39 said:I ended up with the exact same thing, so I guess I’ll be heading out to play some soccer once I've finally recovered from this decade-long hiatus. 😁

So, we aren't actually talking about the full paycheck here, just that specific bonus kicker?

Arthur Howard said:You'll score a bonus if you put together a parlay featuring three or more matches from the top five leagues or the Champions League.
I’d say you’re looking at roughly a 5% bump to your total coefficient if you manage to pull together three pairs.

The five percent bonus just tripled.
A four-fold bet paired with a 10% kicker—it’s like trying to hit a home run when you know the wind is blowing out just enough to give you that extra bit of lift. It isn't exactly a miracle, but it certainly changes the math in your favor if you play it smart.
It’s like finding an extra ten percent tucked into the bottom of your coffee bag—it doesn't change the flavor of the morning, but it certainly makes the ritual feel a little more rewarding. A 10% bonus on top of five folds is just one of those small, steady wins that keeps things interesting.
It’s like hitting a 20% kicker on a six-fold multiplier—not exactly life-changing, but enough to keep things interesting.
It’s like trying to hit a massive parlay where you’re stacking seven different outcomes just to chase a 30% kicker; it sounds enticing on paper, but the math usually tells a much more sobering story once you actually get into the weeds of it.
It’s like being offered an extra forty percent on an eight-fold payout—it sounds massive on paper, but you have to look at how that math actually plays out when you're in the thick of it.
It’s like hitting a 50% markup on a nine-fold payout—it just adds that extra layer of math to the mix.
It’s essentially a ten-fold jump on a sixty percent bonus.
It’s essentially an eleven-fold jump on a seventy percent bonus.
It’s like hitting an 80% windfall on a twelve-fold investment—the kind of math that actually makes you stop and look twice before you commit.
It’s like hitting a 90% windfall on a thirteen-fold multiplier—nothing short of a massive stroke of luck.
If you’re looking to stack those wins, we’re talking about anything 14-fold or higher triggering a full 100% bonus.

From what I can gather, he’s essentially backed himself into a corner where he has to either pull off a win or just walk away from the table entirely. Is that really how it plays out?

And honestly? I’d probably drop some serious cash on it, too.

Arthur Howard said:Has anyone else dealt with betting sites stalling on payouts after a win?

They're claiming the match was suspicious and that some regulatory body is investigating, so they won't release my funds.
If a match is actually under investigation, those players wouldn't just be back on the court at the next tournament. (tennis)
To top it all off, they locked my account with over $2,600 sitting in there, plus I still have open bets on that same game.

I'm thinking about filing a complaint with IBAS.

Just because there's an investigation doesn't mean you're guilty... why wouldn't they be allowed to play?
Which match was it, if you don't mind me asking?

Arthur Howard said:There's a bonus if you play 3 or more parlays from the top five leagues or Champions League.
So I think if you have 3 legs, you get about a 5% boost on the total odds.

Trebles 5% bonus
4-folds 10% bonus
5-folds 10% bonus
6-folds 20% bonus
7-folds 30% bonus
8-folds 40% bonus
9-folds 50% bonus
10-folds 60% bonus
11-folds 70% bonus
12-folds 80% bonus
13-folds 90% bonus
14-folds and up 100% bonus

Heh, honestly... that "bonus" on a 14-fold just covers the gap created by the margin they take—since there's already a 5% juice on individual bets.🤣

Basically, if you're betting at 1.90 odds when the true value is 2 (with a 5% margin), a 14-leg parlay pays out 1:8228, even though realistically it should be closer to 1:16384...

This is just how bookies make their spikes...

Walter Edwards said:The game got called off in the 71st minute with the score at 3-0—it was 2-0 at halftime—so that bet is a loss...

http://extratime.ie/newsdesk/article...o-be-replayed/

Thanks for the heads up, 😉