Best offshore sportsbooks for online betting?

Robert Wright4 said:—but you can't pair a player's point total with anything else from that same game. For instance, take tonight’s Minnesota vs. NY Knicks matchup—you can't bet on a Minnesota win and simultaneously bank on Carmelo to go under his points line. That’s exactly what silenthawk242 was asking about, if I recall correctly...

That is precisely what I am trying to figure out. Well, if that's the case, I might as well just head over to Paddy

mellowdrifter14 said:I was actually thinking about those big brick-and-mortar sportsbooks, so you're spot on there.

DraftKings holds about 20% of the US market, while William Hill and Paddy have roughly 15% each! Sure, BetMGM and Marathon offer some fantastic options, but once you deal with them closing out seven or eight of your accounts in just a few months, you really start to lose interest. 😢

Maybe try not opening seven or eight different accounts at the same sportsbook and things might actually go your way :P

Hey everyone. I spend most of my time betting on hockey and tennis through our local sportsbooks. But, given the recent changes to the laws and those new tax hikes, I’m planning to move my action over to some international online sites instead. I've already got accounts set up on a few of them, so I'm familiar with how they handle everything from the interface to the payouts.
I was wondering if anyone here plays much tennis—which sportsbook would you recommend?
Also, is there anywhere out there that offers a decent variety of small, medium, and large handicaps for tennis matches, similar to what we used to see here in the States?
Any advice at all would be appreciated. Thanks!

Andrew Morris6 said:Quick question. Is it possible to open a new account at DraftKings using the exact same name, address, and all the details from my current account? I mean, can I have two accounts with absolutely identical information? Thanks.

I suppose you could. Maybe try reaching out to their live chat. Tell them you want to change your currency to pounds. They should be able to handle that, which would effectively give you two accounts. Though, I guess you could only use one at a time—one in pounds and the other in dollars.

What’s the best type of bet to use on DraftKings if you want to hit the cashout option before the clock runs out? That cashout feature.

I usually bet on neither team scoring in the second half. I wait a few minutes after it starts, then cash out if no one has scored yet. It isn't much, but I think you have to stay moderate about it.

Hey! So, because of this whole new legal thing happening here in the States, I'm finally making the jump to online betting. Just wondering—when it comes to actually cashing out my winnings, what kind of paperwork am I looking at? I'm mostly worried about them asking for utility bills or stuff like that... since everything is still under my old man's name. I've got my driver's license ready to go, obviously, but does anyone know what else they need for verification? I really don't want to stress out over some random bill or other nonsense if I can help it!

rapidfalcon15 said:Hey, I'm switching over to online betting because of those new laws being passed here in the US. I was wondering about the withdrawal process for online sites—specifically what kind of documentation they require. My main concern is whether they'll ask for utility bills (like electricity or water), since everything at my place is still under my dad's name. I have my driver's license ready, but I'm worried about other verification requirements. Are there any specific documents I should be prepared to provide so I don't run into issues with things like bills or other nonsense?

First off, you'll just need some kind of official document. A bank statement showing your name and address should work fine.
For DraftKings, you'll probably need a copy of your driver's license or passport. I'd suggest getting your account verified before you start placing bets to avoid headaches later on. Using PayPal or Venmo is probably your best bet for deposits.

James Mitchell25 said:Maybe try not opening seven or eight different accounts at once—it might actually help your luck :P

😁 Don't sweat it—I’m well aware of how they use things like IESnare, CCleaner, and all those other tricks to track you down. Honestly, they've never managed to shut one of my accounts before I successfully cashed out 🙄 but even if you manage to get your money, it feels like a hollow victory because they just hit you with those tiny limits...

rapidfalcon15 said:Hey, so because of this whole new legislative update, I’m switching over to online betting—which makes sense—but I’m curious about the withdrawal process. When I go to pull my money out, what kind of documentation are they actually going to ask for? My main worry is whether they'll demand utility bills (like electricity or water) to prove where I live. The thing is, those bills aren't in my name—they're still under my dad's name. I have my driver's license, obviously, but I want to know what else they require for verification so I don't end up stressing over some random bill or other nonsense that I can't provide.

A bank statement showing you own the account or a residency confirmation from the FBI works for everyone!

aha okay, just one more thing I'm wondering about—how does the whole verification process actually kick off? (I mean, generally speaking for all these betting sites) Do I just shoot them an email out of the blue, or am I supposed to just sit tight and wait for them to hit me up asking for my IDs?

rapidfalcon15 said:Aha, okay—I'm just wondering how I actually kick off the verification process (meaning, for all the betting sites in general)? Do I just shoot them an email out of the blue, or do I wait until they reach out and ask for my ID?

If you don't take the initiative, they’ll eventually come knocking—usually right when you try to withdraw your first payout. Honestly, it’s much better if you just send them an email ahead of time letting them know you want to get your account verified; that way, you can just sit back and wait for their specific instructions to hit your inbox!

Which sportsbook are you using?

So, like, I'm looking for the lowdown on DraftKings, Pinny, William Hill, Marathon, and Sportingbet specifically. Any takers?

Peter Williams37 said:The Asian connection. If I recall correctly, the minimum deposit back then was around $25,000 or $50,000...
Most high rollers start at $100k and go up from there...
If my memory serves me right, the withdrawal fee was about $45.
You negotiate the odds directly with them... that’s just an example if you need to deposit a massive amount.

Best,

Thanks for the reply, though I find it hard to believe they'd negotiate odds like that—what kind of system would that even be? Besides, I already have FanDuel for those kinds of things.

What bothers me is the lack of transparency. I can't find anything on who they actually are or who's pulling the strings behind the scenes (you know, regarding financial stability). I don't really need that info right now since I've withdrawn almost everything and am starting over with a $10k bankroll, but who knows what the future holds? There's just too little information available for my liking.😕

I've seen people move $100k through FanDuel or PayPal before, but I haven't felt confident enough to trust this place with that kind of cash yet.

rapidfalcon15 said:Specifically, I'm looking at DraftKings, Pinny, William Hill, Marathon, and Sportingbet.?

First, you should probably open a chat and just wait for an agent to respond. Tell them you need to verify your account, and they will ask for your details and documents. That seems to be all there is to it. I suppose you'll need to know some English, though.

mellowdrifter14 said:You’re still going to have to log in to your own sportsbook accounts anyway. Their business model is basically the same as mine, just on a much smaller scale. For instance, if someone signs up through my link at a place like Pinnacle, I handle their deposits and withdrawals via PayPal without charging a fee. Why would I do that? Because I get about 0.1% of all their deposits, regardless of whether they win or lose.

These firms essentially pool their limits from (mostly) Asian books, which allows you to secure a higher limit (though the exchange rate fluctuates depending on the day). Since they take a 0.1-0.2% cut of your deposit, it’s actually worth it for them to pick up the phone—even if you have to call them in the middle of the night!

In short—if you're hitting limits on sites like Pinnacle for sports like soccer, it's a great move. But for other sports (like handball), you won't see much benefit from them at all...

I was actually wondering if payingsafe.com belongs to you; based on this, it clearly does. Huge respect for the accessibility, the persistence, and how you rebuilt everything after those setbacks. I especially enjoyed the part about the idiot from the state lottery—I had a very similar experience with them myself.😍

Regarding what you mentioned above about "handling deposits/withdrawals via PayPal without a commission"—which commission are you referring to? Even since they phased out points for Venmo on FanDuel, I'm still getting some value there. Also, does a broker get a higher limit simply because they bring in new clients and capital, or is there another reason? It feels like there might not be enough margin in that model to sustain it long-term...

Limits aren't really an issue for me since I've moved away from traditional sportsbooks (the only one left that handles decent stakes and payouts is DraftKings, but that’s probably a question for another day). I've focused my attention on the sports I have on FanDuel, which turned out to be mostly top-tier soccer, ATP tournaments with 500+ rankings, and snooker. Snooker is where I struggle most, particularly with the handicaps, but from what I gather, I wouldn't gain much from a broker in that area anyway.

P.S. If you find yourself trying to avoid the commission on FanDuel, could you please just send a quick private message so we don't clutter the thread for everyone else? I'm talking about "faking" commissions just to stay above 20%, not about opening new accounts.

driftingeagle8 said:First, just hop into the live chat and wait for an agent to pick up. Tell them you need to verify your account, and they'll walk you through the specific documents and info they need. That’s really all there is to it. You'll just need to be able to communicate in English.

Honestly, nobody is going to give you a hard time just because the utility bills are in your name. As long as you have your bank statements and phone bill ready, having matching last names on those should be more than enough to get it sorted.

steelpilot29 said:I don't think anyone is going to give you a hard time just because the accounts are in your name. As long as you have your bank account and phone ready, having the same last name on everything else should be enough for them to verify you.

I don't believe that's accurate. They will ask for specific documentation, and you really should provide it. I guess if you try to stall or avoid it, you probably won't see any payout at all.

I’ve been placing bets over at DraftKings for quite a while now.
But it wasn't until today that I actually realized they let you parlay an NBA game outcome with the total points scored in that very same matchup.🤣
Even our local neighborhood sportsbooks don't offer anything like that, and honestly, I don't think I've seen anyone else allowing those kinds of combinations anywhere else.
I remember once upon a time, maybe a few years back, a place like FanDuel used to let you combine things like Team 1's total points with Team 2's total points, but they pulled that feature pretty quickly.
It’s certainly an interesting quirk. If they ever decided to start letting us parlay individual NBA player props with the game result, or even player vs. player stats, wouldn't that just be incredible?

On DraftKings, you can actually pair up a handicap bet with an over/under on the exact same game—including all those NBA matchups—without any hassle at all! It even works for handball games if you're into those.

Regarding that rumor about being able to bet on multiple players within a single game over at Paddy, I have to say, that just isn't true. While you certainly can bet on different players, they have to be from entirely separate games. You also can't combine a specific player prop with a match outcome from that same contest.

As for my own experience, my limits for NBA player props usually hover around $40.
When it comes to the ATP tour, I'm looking at anywhere from $5 to $15 depending on what the odds are doing.
For soccer and most other markets, the limits feel pretty reasonable, ranging from $50 to $200 depending on which market you're targeting.

I wonder, though—could the reason my limits are so tight be because I was placing bets on those smaller markets right up against the limit before I had even finished verifying my account?

Arthur Howard said:I'm capped at about $40 on NBA players
Then it's like $5 to $15 for ATP depending on the odds
Soccer and everything else has decent limits, maybe $50 to $200 depending on what you're betting on.
Maybe they flagged me because I was hitting those smaller markets right up against my limit before I even finished verifying my account.

Are you talking about Paddy?